Pushkin. This is talk Easy.

Pushkin. This is talk Easy.

I'm student forgo SOO. Welcome to the show.

I'm student forgo SOO. Welcome to the show.

Today, we're returning to our conversation with actor, writer, and comedian Abby Jacubson. In twenty fourteen, Abby created broad City with friend and collaborator Alana Glazer. The show, of course, revolved around two women in their twenties trying to make it in New York's It ran for five seasons on Comedy Central, but near the end of that chapter, showrunner and producer Will Graham approached Jacobson with a new idea to make a TV version of the nineteen ninety two film A League of their Own. Like the iconic movie itself, the show charts the creation of a women's professional baseball team in Rockford, Illinois, but that's about where the similarities end. Instead, in this reimagining, Jacobson and the show at large are more interested in the role of queerness, race, and gender. The groundbreaking series arrived last summer back in twenty twenty two, when Abby and I first sat down to talk. In the years since, Amazon had decided to green light an abbreviated second season. However, recently, as studios continue to complain that the strikes they caused are hurting their bottom line. Amazon has elected to reverse that prior decision, leaving the last chapter of this story untold. A League of their Own is not the first casualty of this dual labor strike, but I imagine it's not a coincidence that many of the initiatives being abandoned or the shows being canceled often focus on stories told by black, brown and folks from the LGBTQ plus communities. As this historic strike in Hollywood continues on, we wanted to celebrate the one year anniversary of the show and of course, the family that made it. If you haven't checked out A League of their Own, I highly recommend you do so. You can find a link to watch it on our website or in the description of this episode. For today, my conversation with Abby, which unpacks her early comedic influences, her years striking out in New York after college, finding her way at UCB, the whirlwind of broad City, across country road trip fueled by heartbreak, and a whole lot more. This is Abbi Jacobson, Abby Jacobson, how are you feeling?

Today, we're returning to our conversation with actor, writer, and comedian Abby Jacubson. In twenty fourteen, Abby created broad City with friend and collaborator Alana Glazer. The show, of course, revolved around two women in their twenties trying to make it in New York's It ran for five seasons on Comedy Central, but near the end of that chapter, showrunner and producer Will Graham approached Jacobson with a new idea to make a TV version of the nineteen ninety two film A League of their Own. Like the iconic movie itself, the show charts the creation of a women's professional baseball team in Rockford, Illinois, but that's about where the similarities end. Instead, in this reimagining, Jacobson and the show at large are more interested in the role of queerness, race, and gender. The groundbreaking series arrived last summer back in twenty twenty two, when Abby and I first sat down to talk. In the years since, Amazon had decided to green light an abbreviated second season. However, recently, as studios continue to complain that the strikes they caused are hurting their bottom line. Amazon has elected to reverse that prior decision, leaving the last chapter of this story untold. A League of their Own is not the first casualty of this dual labor strike, but I imagine it's not a coincidence that many of the initiatives being abandoned or the shows being canceled often focus on stories told by black, brown and folks from the LGBTQ plus communities. As this historic strike in Hollywood continues on, we wanted to celebrate the one year anniversary of the show and of course, the family that made it. If you haven't checked out A League of their Own, I highly recommend you do so. You can find a link to watch it on our website or in the description of this episode. For today, my conversation with Abby, which unpacks her early comedic influences, her years striking out in New York after college, finding her way at UCB, the whirlwind of broad City, across country road trip fueled by heartbreak, and a whole lot more. This is Abbi Jacobson, Abby Jacobson, how are you feeling?

I feel good, I do feel nervous.

I feel good, I do feel nervous.

Why's up?

Why's up?

I love this podcast? And I think you're one of the best.

I love this podcast? And I think you're one of the best.

Interviewers, and that makes you nervous kind.

Interviewers, and that makes you nervous kind.

Of to be the one being interviewed. Yeah, a little bit.

Of to be the one being interviewed. Yeah, a little bit.

Is this how you thought it would go?

Is this how you thought it would go?

It's a really nice space. I hadn't like visualized it. I like the setting. I like this.

It's a really nice space. I hadn't like visualized it. I like the setting. I like this.

We have wine beautiful.

We have wine beautiful.

Yeah, we're doing a late night talk easy.

Yeah, we're doing a late night talk easy.

This is the.

This is the.

New category.

New category.

I would be happy to do this at any time.

I would be happy to do this at any time.

I'm very happy to be here.

I'm very happy to be here.

Where to begin. You have this new show called A League of Their Own. It's less of a recreation of the nineteen ninety two movie and more of a reimagining of the story, as you say, opening up the lens of women in the nineteen forties who wanted to play baseball. So why don't we start here? Why did you want to tell this story in twenty twenty two?

Where to begin. You have this new show called A League of Their Own. It's less of a recreation of the nineteen ninety two movie and more of a reimagining of the story, as you say, opening up the lens of women in the nineteen forties who wanted to play baseball. So why don't we start here? Why did you want to tell this story in twenty twenty two?

So I loved this film. It was one of those films. It was probably like that and The Mighty Ducks and Sister Act, The TRIFACTA Yeah, yeah, where I was like, I see something in here that is me. This is like mind blowing in whatever way. And I was still making Broad City when Will Graham, who's the co creator with me, asked me. We were just acquaintances. First time we went to dinner, and he asked me if I wanted to do this with him. We're in New York and I was in season four of Broad City, and I we were not like ending it necessarily yet, and I was like, I don't know, like if I can manage book of these, but yes I must. I think that first conversation really defines why we wanted to do this, which is the film is over here and will forever be over here as one of the like nineties classics that people love. It's so nostalgic and so much of the spirit and the joy that film holds true when you watch it.

So I loved this film. It was one of those films. It was probably like that and The Mighty Ducks and Sister Act, The TRIFACTA Yeah, yeah, where I was like, I see something in here that is me. This is like mind blowing in whatever way. And I was still making Broad City when Will Graham, who's the co creator with me, asked me. We were just acquaintances. First time we went to dinner, and he asked me if I wanted to do this with him. We're in New York and I was in season four of Broad City, and I we were not like ending it necessarily yet, and I was like, I don't know, like if I can manage book of these, but yes I must. I think that first conversation really defines why we wanted to do this, which is the film is over here and will forever be over here as one of the like nineties classics that people love. It's so nostalgic and so much of the spirit and the joy that film holds true when you watch it.

Now and can't be remade.

Now and can't be remade.

No, can't be.

No, can't be.

And we were never trying to be like, let's redo that. And so while you know the spirit and the joy, I just spoke of, that's the thing we're really trying to do in ours as well. But Penny Marshall had limitations in ninety two when she was making it and like, what, like what kind of stories you can tell? Listen, We're still up against it now, but I think we're able to tell a much wider scope of different kinds of stories right now, and so that's why Will and I really wanted to dive into the stories that we're missing in the movie, and so that ends up being a lot of characters that were not featured in the film. Like the film really focuses on this one league, the All American Girls Professional Baseball League, which is what are the Peaches are? And was a door that opened for some women, all white women or white passing women, straight seeming women. And our show is really diving into a lot of different kinds of women. So that happens to be queer women, that happens to be Black women, that happens to be LATINX women, that happens. I just think that was like a big intention of like really showing a range of women in the nineteen forties that the two hour film couldn't do in that two hour real estate. Hopefully we'll get to do more, but yeah, I think it was really exciting. Like, you know, we got a chance to talk to Penny Marshall before she died, which.

And we were never trying to be like, let's redo that. And so while you know the spirit and the joy, I just spoke of, that's the thing we're really trying to do in ours as well. But Penny Marshall had limitations in ninety two when she was making it and like, what, like what kind of stories you can tell? Listen, We're still up against it now, but I think we're able to tell a much wider scope of different kinds of stories right now, and so that's why Will and I really wanted to dive into the stories that we're missing in the movie, and so that ends up being a lot of characters that were not featured in the film. Like the film really focuses on this one league, the All American Girls Professional Baseball League, which is what are the Peaches are? And was a door that opened for some women, all white women or white passing women, straight seeming women. And our show is really diving into a lot of different kinds of women. So that happens to be queer women, that happens to be Black women, that happens to be LATINX women, that happens. I just think that was like a big intention of like really showing a range of women in the nineteen forties that the two hour film couldn't do in that two hour real estate. Hopefully we'll get to do more, but yeah, I think it was really exciting. Like, you know, we got a chance to talk to Penny Marshall before she died, which.

Is like, what did her voice sound like?

Is like, what did her voice sound like?

Like, I was like wow, kind of like micro oh. I was trying to though, Bryana thalas Thorium, These women I couldn't do everything. She kind of talked a little bit about that because we had been developing the show. You know, we pitched the show in twenty seventeen, so this has been a pretty long process. You know. We always sort of had these two worlds and the hinge of the show. So the character I play Carson, and the character that Chante Adams play is Max. The pilot is the biggest homage of the film, and it's sort of those worlds are defined by the scene in the film where there's a foul ball and a black woman picks up the full ball and chucks it back to Geena Davis and she doesn't say anything, but like, you know, like that was a hard throw and that woman is really good and is not allowed to be in this space because she's black.

Like, I was like wow, kind of like micro oh. I was trying to though, Bryana thalas Thorium, These women I couldn't do everything. She kind of talked a little bit about that because we had been developing the show. You know, we pitched the show in twenty seventeen, so this has been a pretty long process. You know. We always sort of had these two worlds and the hinge of the show. So the character I play Carson, and the character that Chante Adams play is Max. The pilot is the biggest homage of the film, and it's sort of those worlds are defined by the scene in the film where there's a foul ball and a black woman picks up the full ball and chucks it back to Geena Davis and she doesn't say anything, but like, you know, like that was a hard throw and that woman is really good and is not allowed to be in this space because she's black.

And then nothing.

And then nothing.

That's the one bit that you get of why there's only white women on the team. And we asked Penny about that, and that's when she said, you know, I was really trying to tell this story about this league, and that was my opportunity to nod to some of the flaws of the league. And we really wanted to not just nod to all those things. You know, I think the film is somehow this like iconic queer film as well, and there's like no one queer, But you know, we really wanted to focus on those characters that were not in the film.

That's the one bit that you get of why there's only white women on the team. And we asked Penny about that, and that's when she said, you know, I was really trying to tell this story about this league, and that was my opportunity to nod to some of the flaws of the league. And we really wanted to not just nod to all those things. You know, I think the film is somehow this like iconic queer film as well, and there's like no one queer, But you know, we really wanted to focus on those characters that were not in the film.

You said in a recent interview, there are two hands in the show. The one we're used to seeing the white woman who wants to play baseball, and the other is Max, played by Chante Adams. When Will came to you in twenty seventeen and pitched the show at dinner, were you initially interested because of the black and queer stories you could tell in the modern age?

You said in a recent interview, there are two hands in the show. The one we're used to seeing the white woman who wants to play baseball, and the other is Max, played by Chante Adams. When Will came to you in twenty seventeen and pitched the show at dinner, were you initially interested because of the black and queer stories you could tell in the modern age?

We didn't specifically say that at dinner. I think it was more recognizing that that film was really just so white and that film felt very exclusionary in that way, and like what about the other stories? And that was like the beginning of like, if we're going to do this, we're going to go in all the other directions. And then the more research we did, and we had full time researchers, that's so not my wheelhouse, I believe it or not. Broad City we did not have a researcher on staff the whole time.

We didn't specifically say that at dinner. I think it was more recognizing that that film was really just so white and that film felt very exclusionary in that way, and like what about the other stories? And that was like the beginning of like, if we're going to do this, we're going to go in all the other directions. And then the more research we did, and we had full time researchers, that's so not my wheelhouse, I believe it or not. Broad City we did not have a researcher on staff the whole time.

You didn't have someone researching how to properly smoke a joint on screen.

You didn't have someone researching how to properly smoke a joint on screen.

It was listen.

It was listen.

It was one of the hats I wore so many hats I wore.

It was one of the hats I wore so many hats I wore.

You took that for the team? Did did someself free labor?

You took that for the team? Did did someself free labor?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Comedy Central didn't want to pay for the research.

Comedy Central didn't want to pay for the research.

They did not, And you can leave that in.

They did not, And you can leave that in.

Oh the editors are just marking this. They're bowling. This is actually this is a social breakoup ye.

Oh the editors are just marking this. They're bowling. This is actually this is a social breakoup ye.

Yeah, yeah, Oh, it's going to be this is tweetable. They did not pay me. No, the you know, there's so m many stories and so many important stories that I felt very honored to be telling about like a great responsibility to try our best to really tell what their lives would have been like. And so our researchers like brought materials and like sort of researching all aspects of life at the time. So it's like to be a woman, was like to be a black one, what it was like to be a Mexican American woman, and then like trying to play baseball, and then the war and then there's just like endless things. And so the more we started researching, the more that started to define the stories we wanted to tell.

Yeah, yeah, Oh, it's going to be this is tweetable. They did not pay me. No, the you know, there's so m many stories and so many important stories that I felt very honored to be telling about like a great responsibility to try our best to really tell what their lives would have been like. And so our researchers like brought materials and like sort of researching all aspects of life at the time. So it's like to be a woman, was like to be a black one, what it was like to be a Mexican American woman, and then like trying to play baseball, and then the war and then there's just like endless things. And so the more we started researching, the more that started to define the stories we wanted to tell.

One of the women that was an influence for you. Her name is Mabel Blair. She's ninety five years old. She was a gay woman at the time closeted. Closet was that an influence for your character.

One of the women that was an influence for you. Her name is Mabel Blair. She's ninety five years old. She was a gay woman at the time closeted. Closet was that an influence for your character.

Maybell was a very broad influence in a lot of the queer characters on the show that especially in the League, but also just in sort of what it was like to be queer at the time, and her stories a little bit later than we were in nineteen forty three in the beginning of the story, and so talking to Maybell, I mean and I can tell her story now because a month ago at our screening at Tribeca, we're doing a panel after and she sits there and publicly came out for the first time at ninety.

Maybell was a very broad influence in a lot of the queer characters on the show that especially in the League, but also just in sort of what it was like to be queer at the time, and her stories a little bit later than we were in nineteen forty three in the beginning of the story, and so talking to Maybell, I mean and I can tell her story now because a month ago at our screening at Tribeca, we're doing a panel after and she sits there and publicly came out for the first time at ninety.

Five, which was like unbelievable.

Five, which was like unbelievable.

I have chills right now. It was unbelieve It was a really special night, and she'd come out to us, but that experience of hers was very private to us. So she's been a consultant on the show, but like we were very careful to share whose inside look into that world we were using and we're using a lot of other historical references to showcase what it was like to be closeted. In like the spaces that were safe and not for her, you know. Finding the league was probably the first time where she and she said, this was the first time where she was like, I'm not the only one. And it was this little bubble where she found other queer women and then would go and go to like gay bars and be like, it's not even just us. It's like the world is way bigger than what I thought. And Carson, the character I play, is married to man and has been for a long time, sort of childhood sweetheart who she loves and finds herself in this league and is sort of like cracked open by this person she meets, and the world is revealed to be way bigger in the same way that I think it was for me. Abel. So like that feeling and that experience is very much Carson's. I mean, I think that's like the arc of my character and the season is really knowing who she is in a way bigger way. I think that Max's character that Chante Adams plays, I mean, she's based on three women who Tony Stone made me Johnson and Connie Morgan who were not allowed to try out in this league and ended up playing in the neager leagues with men, which is a story I did not know until like right around when Will and I were talking about this, And how do we not.

I have chills right now. It was unbelieve It was a really special night, and she'd come out to us, but that experience of hers was very private to us. So she's been a consultant on the show, but like we were very careful to share whose inside look into that world we were using and we're using a lot of other historical references to showcase what it was like to be closeted. In like the spaces that were safe and not for her, you know. Finding the league was probably the first time where she and she said, this was the first time where she was like, I'm not the only one. And it was this little bubble where she found other queer women and then would go and go to like gay bars and be like, it's not even just us. It's like the world is way bigger than what I thought. And Carson, the character I play, is married to man and has been for a long time, sort of childhood sweetheart who she loves and finds herself in this league and is sort of like cracked open by this person she meets, and the world is revealed to be way bigger in the same way that I think it was for me. Abel. So like that feeling and that experience is very much Carson's. I mean, I think that's like the arc of my character and the season is really knowing who she is in a way bigger way. I think that Max's character that Chante Adams plays, I mean, she's based on three women who Tony Stone made me Johnson and Connie Morgan who were not allowed to try out in this league and ended up playing in the neager leagues with men, which is a story I did not know until like right around when Will and I were talking about this, And how do we not.

Know that you've done such a good job telling other people's stories in this show. And since you know our show so well, you know that we have to try to tell your story now. Oh I know?

Know that you've done such a good job telling other people's stories in this show. And since you know our show so well, you know that we have to try to tell your story now. Oh I know?

Okay?

Okay?

Are you okay? Yeah, we'll see you bummed out.

Are you okay? Yeah, we'll see you bummed out.

I'm gonna know, we'll see what happens. I'm gonna just keep sitting in my wine.

I'm gonna know, we'll see what happens. I'm gonna just keep sitting in my wine.

Okay. So, growing up in Wayne, Pennsylvania, I want to pinpoint the first comedic bit that you took part in, and I believe it had to do with your grandfather Harry.

Okay. So, growing up in Wayne, Pennsylvania, I want to pinpoint the first comedic bit that you took part in, and I believe it had to do with your grandfather Harry.

Oh yeah, So in my family we called our grim not none of my grandparents are alive anymore, but we called them Mum and pop up. So my pup up Jack and my pupa Parry. They were both really funny and I do think a lot of my sense of humor comes from the two of them. My Papa Parry was always about like pranks and he would like I think you're referring to this story where we would go down the shore, which is what Philly people call the South Jersey Shore kind of around Atlantic City area, and so we had just eaten dinner and you like pull me into the kitchen and he was like, Okay, we have dessert. I'm gonna smash your face into it. And that was like just something like we would just do that public ruin dessert.

Oh yeah, So in my family we called our grim not none of my grandparents are alive anymore, but we called them Mum and pop up. So my pup up Jack and my pupa Parry. They were both really funny and I do think a lot of my sense of humor comes from the two of them. My Papa Parry was always about like pranks and he would like I think you're referring to this story where we would go down the shore, which is what Philly people call the South Jersey Shore kind of around Atlantic City area, and so we had just eaten dinner and you like pull me into the kitchen and he was like, Okay, we have dessert. I'm gonna smash your face into it. And that was like just something like we would just do that public ruin dessert.

What was a dessert?

What was a dessert?

Oh man, it was some pie with cream on it, but it was I feel like we would do that a lot, like the willingness to ruin it, like no one's eating that of course, or the laugh sort of ingrained in me, like the laugh is important, more important, more important than the food. Yeah, And I feel like I was probably like four or fives like early on, just sort of like that that joy, that getting that reaction is worth the ruining dessert, Like we'll find something else, you know, for everybody. And then like my other grandfather was just like the funniest guy. I don't know if you my pop up jack, Like, do you remember in the nineties guys would wear their jeans like super low and like show their boxers.

Oh man, it was some pie with cream on it, but it was I feel like we would do that a lot, like the willingness to ruin it, like no one's eating that of course, or the laugh sort of ingrained in me, like the laugh is important, more important, more important than the food. Yeah, And I feel like I was probably like four or fives like early on, just sort of like that that joy, that getting that reaction is worth the ruining dessert, Like we'll find something else, you know, for everybody. And then like my other grandfather was just like the funniest guy. I don't know if you my pop up jack, Like, do you remember in the nineties guys would wear their jeans like super low and like show their boxers.

Did that end in the nineties And it's kind of coming.

Did that end in the nineties And it's kind of coming.

Back around, but like it was very like low hanging jeans and like I don't know, like my brother was doing it, and so like I just remember my grandfather just walking like nonchalantly like that just to like fuck with my brother, who thought he was like the coolest. I don't know. It was like so subtle things, this little like what could we do to get them? Was how I felt with my grandparents a little bit.

Back around, but like it was very like low hanging jeans and like I don't know, like my brother was doing it, and so like I just remember my grandfather just walking like nonchalantly like that just to like fuck with my brother, who thought he was like the coolest. I don't know. It was like so subtle things, this little like what could we do to get them? Was how I felt with my grandparents a little bit.

Well, it's funny you mentioned your brother you made a bet with him at age ten that by the time you were twenty, you'd be on us.

Well, it's funny you mentioned your brother you made a bet with him at age ten that by the time you were twenty, you'd be on us.

And now, yeah, I did.

And now, yeah, I did.

And I'm not saying that you owe him money, but I think you owe money.

And I'm not saying that you owe him money, but I think you owe money.

I ow them one hundred dollars.

I ow them one hundred dollars.

Okay.

Okay.

I was really into SNL. It was on reruns on Comedy Central. Comedy Central was also like a very popular channel in my household, which is like so cool later in my life.

I was really into SNL. It was on reruns on Comedy Central. Comedy Central was also like a very popular channel in my household, which is like so cool later in my life.

And but you were so obsessed with it that you started writing a letter. What did ten year old Abbey write in a letter to the head of SNL.

And but you were so obsessed with it that you started writing a letter. What did ten year old Abbey write in a letter to the head of SNL.

It was like, not aggressive, but kind of a little aggressive. It was like you better watch out because I'm gonna be but like as a kid, it was more like you better watch out because I'm coming. But in text it could read like you better watch out, because I'm gonna fucking come.

It was like, not aggressive, but kind of a little aggressive. It was like you better watch out because I'm gonna be but like as a kid, it was more like you better watch out because I'm coming. But in text it could read like you better watch out, because I'm gonna fucking come.

Through that door like it like it could have read definitely got.

Through that door like it like it could have read definitely got.

To be aggressive. How else were you gonna go?

To be aggressive. How else were you gonna go?

I know, and I was very I was definitely more confident then than I think I am now. I think my confidence I was talking about this today. I can be super confident, and I think you have to have a certain level of confidence to like do this stuff. But then there's like such cycles of doubt and insecurity. Whereas that ten year old was sort of watching that show just so in awe of the characters and feeling like, well, I'm gonna write him a letter and let him know that by the time I'm twenty, I'm gonna be on that show. I was just really into it. I was mostly into the first couple seasons. Gilda was my girl, like I would really watch those early days. But actually the person that was most significant was Mike Myers.

I know, and I was very I was definitely more confident then than I think I am now. I think my confidence I was talking about this today. I can be super confident, and I think you have to have a certain level of confidence to like do this stuff. But then there's like such cycles of doubt and insecurity. Whereas that ten year old was sort of watching that show just so in awe of the characters and feeling like, well, I'm gonna write him a letter and let him know that by the time I'm twenty, I'm gonna be on that show. I was just really into it. I was mostly into the first couple seasons. Gilda was my girl, like I would really watch those early days. But actually the person that was most significant was Mike Myers.

For a long time, I believe you liked Mike Myers so much that in eighth grade as a student council representative. Yeah, you reported the monthly issues doing a Mike Myers character. Yeah, the floor is yours.

For a long time, I believe you liked Mike Myers so much that in eighth grade as a student council representative. Yeah, you reported the monthly issues doing a Mike Myers character. Yeah, the floor is yours.

Oh yeah, Oh my god. So long Hello and welcome to Corfee Talk. My name is Linda Richmond. I'm here with Sammy f talking on the turk Easy. We don't have coffee, we have wine.

Oh yeah, Oh my god. So long Hello and welcome to Corfee Talk. My name is Linda Richmond. I'm here with Sammy f talking on the turk Easy. We don't have coffee, we have wine.

To walk ammixt your selves. I have not done that in a really long time.

To walk ammixt your selves. I have not done that in a really long time.

How do you feel?

How do you feel?

Only for you? But I'm like, I gotta tell you, it's like riding a bike.

Only for you? But I'm like, I gotta tell you, it's like riding a bike.

That was great. You know, I'm honored that you would do it.

That was great. You know, I'm honored that you would do it.

I can't believe I did it for this show.

I can't believe I did it for this show.

Of course, I also like needed to prove that I could. So I was like student council representative from my homeroom, which means like once a month you go to the meetings. They tell you what's going on in school, and you come back and you tell the class. And I again like I hadn't ever really performed. I was like I was an athlete as a kid. I played like every sport my older brother played. But I kind of had this itch of like that's what I wanted to do, And so I did coffee talk to tell them that there was like a dance on Sunday and they ate it up and I think getting the reaction from the adults, you can tell if it's fake I think it was where I was like, this is working, Like I can get the laughs that I'm like where I wrote the laughs I got, which was so new to me, and I would do that every month and then we like went on a field trip and I did it at this campfire there. But I don't think that growing up, I was ever the kid that you would be like, she's gonna be an actor, like except for that little piece.

Of course, I also like needed to prove that I could. So I was like student council representative from my homeroom, which means like once a month you go to the meetings. They tell you what's going on in school, and you come back and you tell the class. And I again like I hadn't ever really performed. I was like I was an athlete as a kid. I played like every sport my older brother played. But I kind of had this itch of like that's what I wanted to do, And so I did coffee talk to tell them that there was like a dance on Sunday and they ate it up and I think getting the reaction from the adults, you can tell if it's fake I think it was where I was like, this is working, Like I can get the laughs that I'm like where I wrote the laughs I got, which was so new to me, and I would do that every month and then we like went on a field trip and I did it at this campfire there. But I don't think that growing up, I was ever the kid that you would be like, she's gonna be an actor, like except for that little piece.

Except that's exactly what you wanted to be and that confidence. It didn't get you on SNL, but it did bring you to New York in August of two thousand and six and in that first week wanting to be an actor. Yeah, you find yourself at the Atlantic Theater Conservatory. Yeah, how did you feel about those classes? Yeah?

Except that's exactly what you wanted to be and that confidence. It didn't get you on SNL, but it did bring you to New York in August of two thousand and six and in that first week wanting to be an actor. Yeah, you find yourself at the Atlantic Theater Conservatory. Yeah, how did you feel about those classes? Yeah?

So I went to undergrad at the school called Micah in Baltimore, which is fine Art, which is hilarious, Like to be a fine artist is not an easier route than doing this, but I was. It's so it's more tangible, like I could draw and you can see like I can draw, and no one I knew does this or this is just like what are.

So I went to undergrad at the school called Micah in Baltimore, which is fine Art, which is hilarious, Like to be a fine artist is not an easier route than doing this, but I was. It's so it's more tangible, like I could draw and you can see like I can draw, and no one I knew does this or this is just like what are.

You doing by this? You mean acting?

You doing by this? You mean acting?

Acting, writing, like any film TV, like that is just sort of like this wild dream, Like I just didn't know anyone that went and did that as a career. And so while I was in MICA, i minored in video, which allowed me to like experiment with characters and things like that, and I sort of realized that I'd always thought about being an actor and never really allowed myself to do it. And then so when I was graduating, I applied to Atlantic. It was Dramatic Conservatory and it was legit, and I auditioned and got into your program, moved to New York. Dream I mean, I worked at the Anthropology at Rockefeller Center, still holding out, which is where SNL is. It sucked, It's ass, It's just not how my brain works. It really is interesting to think about how people learn and process and can feel confident, and that place for me was like the stripping away of all those things.

Acting, writing, like any film TV, like that is just sort of like this wild dream, Like I just didn't know anyone that went and did that as a career. And so while I was in MICA, i minored in video, which allowed me to like experiment with characters and things like that, and I sort of realized that I'd always thought about being an actor and never really allowed myself to do it. And then so when I was graduating, I applied to Atlantic. It was Dramatic Conservatory and it was legit, and I auditioned and got into your program, moved to New York. Dream I mean, I worked at the Anthropology at Rockefeller Center, still holding out, which is where SNL is. It sucked, It's ass, It's just not how my brain works. It really is interesting to think about how people learn and process and can feel confident, and that place for me was like the stripping away of all those things.

How did you know that it wasn't for you?

How did you know that it wasn't for you?

I think a lot of people have different opinions about art school. I feel very privileged that I got to go to a place that was like all about exploration and it felt like a space that was very improvisational and open, and this was like so closed and like looking at a sentence of dialogue, analyt like it was like this deep micro analysis. My brain like just shut off. It was like turning off the blinds, and I couldn't function in the classes and it was devastating, and I'm like, move to New York. Everyone knew I was doing this, and I had like this breakdown because I would lose my deposit if I didn't make the choice quickly to quit.

I think a lot of people have different opinions about art school. I feel very privileged that I got to go to a place that was like all about exploration and it felt like a space that was very improvisational and open, and this was like so closed and like looking at a sentence of dialogue, analyt like it was like this deep micro analysis. My brain like just shut off. It was like turning off the blinds, and I couldn't function in the classes and it was devastating, and I'm like, move to New York. Everyone knew I was doing this, and I had like this breakdown because I would lose my deposit if I didn't make the choice quickly to quit.

So you're on the northeast corner of fifteenth Street in Eighth Avenue.

So you're on the northeast corner of fifteenth Street in Eighth Avenue.

Yeah, kind of mental brain fully crying. Which if you've ever been to New York, there's you've seen someone doing that.

Yeah, kind of mental brain fully crying. Which if you've ever been to New York, there's you've seen someone doing that.

I've been someone doing that.

I've been someone doing that.

Yeah. I think anyone that has lived in New York has had that. And I think it was just like I'm the first person in my family to like leave Philadelphia, and I felt like I was like going after this big thing and then I'm like, I can't do it.

Yeah. I think anyone that has lived in New York has had that. And I think it was just like I'm the first person in my family to like leave Philadelphia, and I felt like I was like going after this big thing and then I'm like, I can't do it.

When you look at that twenty two year old that moved there with huge dreams and rose colored glasses and within a week had to redefine what they wanted. What do you see?

When you look at that twenty two year old that moved there with huge dreams and rose colored glasses and within a week had to redefine what they wanted. What do you see?

My first thought is I'm so happy that that happened, and that that twenty two year old went through that and had to then like slosh through the messiness. And I've thought about that quite a bit, because I mean, that's fully what broad Cities about, that feeling of moving there, that specific city, and what the highs and lows feel like. There was so much about what we were trying to do on broad City, and like, I feel like I would never have known it at the time, where I was like so devastated with that was a big failure, and like, but all the little mini ones and all the little mini wins, I didn't know at the time that that was sort of building this inventory for me, Like I didn't even know I wanted to be a writer then.

My first thought is I'm so happy that that happened, and that that twenty two year old went through that and had to then like slosh through the messiness. And I've thought about that quite a bit, because I mean, that's fully what broad Cities about, that feeling of moving there, that specific city, and what the highs and lows feel like. There was so much about what we were trying to do on broad City, and like, I feel like I would never have known it at the time, where I was like so devastated with that was a big failure, and like, but all the little mini ones and all the little mini wins, I didn't know at the time that that was sort of building this inventory for me, Like I didn't even know I wanted to be a writer then.

So I want to figure out how you got to making Broad City because after that happens, you're in a kind of depressed days in what you've called the quickly Quitting My Dreams movement of two thousand and six, And in that a roommate of yours suggests that you go to UCP and watch a show. Yeah, when the lights go down and you're sitting there by yourself, what happens in that experience.

So I want to figure out how you got to making Broad City because after that happens, you're in a kind of depressed days in what you've called the quickly Quitting My Dreams movement of two thousand and six, And in that a roommate of yours suggests that you go to UCP and watch a show. Yeah, when the lights go down and you're sitting there by yourself, what happens in that experience.

Yeah, my roommate Jess, who I had gone to Mic go with to undergrad with. So I had done video work at Mike, and I was like really scrambling, just like what am I doing here? And we were at home and she's like, I really, have you ever heard of the Upright Citizens Brigade? And I had not, Like I didn't know the show. She's like, I just really think you'd like it based on your videos at school, which were just character studies kind of but projected on gallery walls, which is kind of hilarious to me now. And so I went and I went alone, and I was fully blown away by what was going on. It was just like, you know, six seven people on stage just playing. You could feel how much fun they were having in like how smart and quick, and the energy in the room was palpable. And from that point on I was I had I had signed up for the Atlantic part time program after I quit to like hang on, and it was torturous. It was such a good part time thing, and I was like, let this end. And from that time on, I signed up for all the classes I could afford. I was obsessed with going there and getting to be one of those people that got to perform on that stage. So darky but I will say, anyone that you talked to about that place, I think taps into this because it is a little cultish you were kind of fully in or not. It made me think differently after being at the Atlantic, which where I felt so small and like numb. I don't know if I'd ever felt like so not myself or unable to speak or express. And then I walk into a place that is all about learning this muscle to be able to not think and trust other people and rely on other people and like play and collaborate like so many of those pillars of improv I feel like I use now. So I'm happily at dork about it.

Yeah, my roommate Jess, who I had gone to Mic go with to undergrad with. So I had done video work at Mike, and I was like really scrambling, just like what am I doing here? And we were at home and she's like, I really, have you ever heard of the Upright Citizens Brigade? And I had not, Like I didn't know the show. She's like, I just really think you'd like it based on your videos at school, which were just character studies kind of but projected on gallery walls, which is kind of hilarious to me now. And so I went and I went alone, and I was fully blown away by what was going on. It was just like, you know, six seven people on stage just playing. You could feel how much fun they were having in like how smart and quick, and the energy in the room was palpable. And from that point on I was I had I had signed up for the Atlantic part time program after I quit to like hang on, and it was torturous. It was such a good part time thing, and I was like, let this end. And from that time on, I signed up for all the classes I could afford. I was obsessed with going there and getting to be one of those people that got to perform on that stage. So darky but I will say, anyone that you talked to about that place, I think taps into this because it is a little cultish you were kind of fully in or not. It made me think differently after being at the Atlantic, which where I felt so small and like numb. I don't know if I'd ever felt like so not myself or unable to speak or express. And then I walk into a place that is all about learning this muscle to be able to not think and trust other people and rely on other people and like play and collaborate like so many of those pillars of improv I feel like I use now. So I'm happily at dork about it.

It was an improv that you finally felt a lot in some way.

It was an improv that you finally felt a lot in some way.

Yeah, and it sort of was how I felt in my homeroom. I mean, listen, I was very insecure at UCB, but I knew it was in there, and it was just about getting past that fear because it is also very scary. There's no script. You're like walking out and all you have is like you're listening to somebody and like trying to find the game of the scene, and you need confidence like the audience like reads it. When there's not and so it's like I found it there.

Yeah, and it sort of was how I felt in my homeroom. I mean, listen, I was very insecure at UCB, but I knew it was in there, and it was just about getting past that fear because it is also very scary. There's no script. You're like walking out and all you have is like you're listening to somebody and like trying to find the game of the scene, and you need confidence like the audience like reads it. When there's not and so it's like I found it there.

But it's also where you found Alana, right.

But it's also where you found Alana, right.

I didn't find her at UCB, but in improvising. In improvising, you kind of had to create a practice team and we would perform at like little theaters all around town, because you like, all you want is to get at UCB stage, but very difficult. So I showed up to this practice team and there was this new girl and her brother, and I fully thought that Alana was maybe from Arrested Development shock at and I didn't know her name, so I was like, yeah, it's Alana, like Alana Glazer plays maybe. And then we went to a bar, went to McManus, which is like an Irish pub that everybody went to from the theater, and we're talking more and it became really clear. I was like, this is not her.

I didn't find her at UCB, but in improvising. In improvising, you kind of had to create a practice team and we would perform at like little theaters all around town, because you like, all you want is to get at UCB stage, but very difficult. So I showed up to this practice team and there was this new girl and her brother, and I fully thought that Alana was maybe from Arrested Development shock at and I didn't know her name, so I was like, yeah, it's Alana, like Alana Glazer plays maybe. And then we went to a bar, went to McManus, which is like an Irish pub that everybody went to from the theater, and we're talking more and it became really clear. I was like, this is not her.

I was going to ask you to dive more into that scene, but you've done such a good job describing it in this book that I thought maybe you'd want to read it.

I was going to ask you to dive more into that scene, but you've done such a good job describing it in this book that I thought maybe you'd want to read it.

Oh yeah, okay, I haven't read this in a little while. It feels false to look back on a moment, a conversation and see an inciting incident of your own life's movie like a formula, a Hollywood script, broken down beat by beat in a screenwriting handbook. But those handbooks sell so many copies for a reason. It was right there at the corner of the bar at McManus that my life changed completely. Alana was so refreshing, this brassy girl with big opinions, bold animated, and who seemed to know exactly who she was, and me shy and insecure, pulling awkwardly at my clothes outgoing only after a few drinks. There was a spark, a dynamic between us I had never experienced with another person, like she could see my potential self sitting at the bar, and I hers, Oh, man, I'm not going to let myself be emotional while reading.

Oh yeah, okay, I haven't read this in a little while. It feels false to look back on a moment, a conversation and see an inciting incident of your own life's movie like a formula, a Hollywood script, broken down beat by beat in a screenwriting handbook. But those handbooks sell so many copies for a reason. It was right there at the corner of the bar at McManus that my life changed completely. Alana was so refreshing, this brassy girl with big opinions, bold animated, and who seemed to know exactly who she was, and me shy and insecure, pulling awkwardly at my clothes outgoing only after a few drinks. There was a spark, a dynamic between us I had never experienced with another person, like she could see my potential self sitting at the bar, and I hers, Oh, man, I'm not going to let myself be emotional while reading.

You're allowed to be emotional on here?

You're allowed to be emotional on here?

I know I will. I'll let myself.

I know I will. I'll let myself.

You're saving that for the back off.

You're saving that for the back off.

Yes, now, then I have that permission.

Yes, now, then I have that permission.

Here we go now, I'm kidding.

Here we go now, I'm kidding.

Abbay's like I've listened to a lot of episodes. It usually happened later on.

Abbay's like I've listened to a lot of episodes. It usually happened later on.

Yeah, yeah, usually have it later on. I think it's so rare to meet someone and know that this person is going to one bee in your life. I really felt that way about her and I had never met anyone like her once. I mean also was like, this is not the person on the TV show and we just started talking and it was just someone who was so as I right in there just felt like they knew who they were, or even if they didn't know who they were, they were okay presently expressing who they were right then and there. And I was not why. I don't know. I think I just didn't know where I was going or I didn't feel like steady in really anything. I think I was so excited. It was a very exciting time, the energy of finding a community, and that again is like also like how often does that happen? Not a lot where you walk into this new space in your life and you're like I want to be a part of this, and they're like welcoming me in and it's full of people that are like me in this way, that are dorking out about yes, anding I don't know. I just was like, this is so different than any of my friends from home, any of my friends from college, which are different communities, but this felt like where I wanted to go, And I don't know, it's like it really feels like a very special time in my life.

Yeah, yeah, usually have it later on. I think it's so rare to meet someone and know that this person is going to one bee in your life. I really felt that way about her and I had never met anyone like her once. I mean also was like, this is not the person on the TV show and we just started talking and it was just someone who was so as I right in there just felt like they knew who they were, or even if they didn't know who they were, they were okay presently expressing who they were right then and there. And I was not why. I don't know. I think I just didn't know where I was going or I didn't feel like steady in really anything. I think I was so excited. It was a very exciting time, the energy of finding a community, and that again is like also like how often does that happen? Not a lot where you walk into this new space in your life and you're like I want to be a part of this, and they're like welcoming me in and it's full of people that are like me in this way, that are dorking out about yes, anding I don't know. I just was like, this is so different than any of my friends from home, any of my friends from college, which are different communities, but this felt like where I wanted to go, And I don't know, it's like it really feels like a very special time in my life.

So it's with all of that anxiety, that kind of rudderlessness that you come to a pizza place on thirtieth and seventh Avenue where the two of you devise a plan to make what would become Bronze City. How did you describe your smiling at me as I'm saying this, I know.

So it's with all of that anxiety, that kind of rudderlessness that you come to a pizza place on thirtieth and seventh Avenue where the two of you devise a plan to make what would become Bronze City. How did you describe your smiling at me as I'm saying this, I know.

Because I love that you know that.

Because I love that you know that.

Yeah, well, I'm mostly like read, I haven't. I haven't talked about this in a second. It's like a warming part of my life.

Yeah, well, I'm mostly like read, I haven't. I haven't talked about this in a second. It's like a warming part of my life.

So how did you two describe the show to each other in that pizza parlor?

So how did you two describe the show to each other in that pizza parlor?

Yeah, I think both of us were This was two thousand and nine. Yeah, we were so frustrated at the time, you know, just do an improv. Alana was doing a lot of stand up and I was doing more characters and just like trying to perform, trying to get on on stage U SEB and the teams and what you think the journey to like do anything in this industry is is to like get on that stage. I think we're just like falling short, like couldn't find the groove that would make the machine run. But Alana and I we just really cracked each other up and were really similar in a lot of ways and then really different, like a Venn diagram.

Yeah, I think both of us were This was two thousand and nine. Yeah, we were so frustrated at the time, you know, just do an improv. Alana was doing a lot of stand up and I was doing more characters and just like trying to perform, trying to get on on stage U SEB and the teams and what you think the journey to like do anything in this industry is is to like get on that stage. I think we're just like falling short, like couldn't find the groove that would make the machine run. But Alana and I we just really cracked each other up and were really similar in a lot of ways and then really different, like a Venn diagram.

What's in the middle of that.

What's in the middle of that.

I think in the middle is like a lot of our core stuff, Like we both grew up with older brothers, our parents were like so supportive of us Jewish, even though Alana, like from the show, her not believing I'm Jewish is like was just from reality. I think it is also like that's a similarity and a difference because we're very different kinds of Jews. And I think the similarity was the yearning to do this, Like we both early on figured out that laugh that if you get the laugh, that's worth it. I think early on she I mean it was more her and her brother versus like me and my grandfather or whatever. But like I think she was exposed really early to like what it feels like when you can make someone laugh, and we just really clicked on that. And the differences were there's anxiety in both places. Mine was like outward, hers is internal a little bit more like all the things that we amplify on the show, or sort of the differences, Like the difference is she has this like bravado and this confidence that there's definitely an insecurity and undercurrent, but like the Bravado is forefront and it's almost overcompensates for everything else whereas like mine is like.

I think in the middle is like a lot of our core stuff, Like we both grew up with older brothers, our parents were like so supportive of us Jewish, even though Alana, like from the show, her not believing I'm Jewish is like was just from reality. I think it is also like that's a similarity and a difference because we're very different kinds of Jews. And I think the similarity was the yearning to do this, Like we both early on figured out that laugh that if you get the laugh, that's worth it. I think early on she I mean it was more her and her brother versus like me and my grandfather or whatever. But like I think she was exposed really early to like what it feels like when you can make someone laugh, and we just really clicked on that. And the differences were there's anxiety in both places. Mine was like outward, hers is internal a little bit more like all the things that we amplify on the show, or sort of the differences, Like the difference is she has this like bravado and this confidence that there's definitely an insecurity and undercurrent, but like the Bravado is forefront and it's almost overcompensates for everything else whereas like mine is like.

I don't know if we have to go, like maybe we don't.

I don't know if we have to go, like maybe we don't.

Go, like I don't have to go out, and Alana is like, let's be anxious about it tomorrow, if that makes sense. Like all the things I kind of wish I could let go of or have tried to take medication for, are actually the best things when it comes to my creator activity. If I'm using myself, they end up being the things that I identify with the character most, so they're okay, Well, no, what are you bringing out? I don't Sam just pulled out a remote control.

Go, like I don't have to go out, and Alana is like, let's be anxious about it tomorrow, if that makes sense. Like all the things I kind of wish I could let go of or have tried to take medication for, are actually the best things when it comes to my creator activity. If I'm using myself, they end up being the things that I identify with the character most, so they're okay, Well, no, what are you bringing out? I don't Sam just pulled out a remote control.

You mentioned all this creativity. Why don't we look at the first broad City sketch that you two filmed. This is called making change.

You mentioned all this creativity. Why don't we look at the first broad City sketch that you two filmed. This is called making change.

I don't don't know if I want to have a cocktail, look, but I couldn't at the morning. I don't have any cash, man, I'm sorry. I actually I have a ten If you could give me eight back or we're good.

I don't don't know if I want to have a cocktail, look, but I couldn't at the morning. I don't have any cash, man, I'm sorry. I actually I have a ten If you could give me eight back or we're good.

That's perfect, Thank you so much.

That's perfect, Thank you so much.

Yes, have a good day.

Yes, have a good day.

Okay, And this is for the bagel.

Okay, And this is for the bagel.

Thank you the make cash the holes.

Thank you the make cash the holes.

I just said thank you for the bagel, and you say, yeah, I didn't.

I just said thank you for the bagel, and you say, yeah, I didn't.

You don't do that.

You don't do that.

That's don't know how I don't see that. That's disrespectful.

That's don't know how I don't see that. That's disrespectful.

First of all, it isn't disrespectful.

First of all, it isn't disrespectful.

I employed him momentarily disrespectful.

I employed him momentarily disrespectful.

I don't know you understand.

I don't know you understand.

That I gave me two dollars.

That I gave me two dollars.

Okay, great? Did you not hear you don't have any cash?

Okay, great? Did you not hear you don't have any cash?

No, you give me cash in front of He's watching me, right.

No, you give me cash in front of He's watching me, right.

He's watching you. Make me a liar?

He's watching you. Make me a liar?

A liar?

A liar?

Were you a Christian who cares?

Were you a Christian who cares?

No?

No?

Not Christian?

Not Christian?

You know I'm not Christian?

You know I'm not Christian?

But he seeing he's still watching me.

But he seeing he's still watching me.

You know, you're all stretched out about what strangers think of you. What does that guy care? You made him a promise like a You have guilt that isn't planted in reality.

You know, you're all stretched out about what strangers think of you. What does that guy care? You made him a promise like a You have guilt that isn't planted in reality.

Going, yo, let me do it.

Going, yo, let me do it.

Just let me.

Just let me.

You did it to me in a situation.

You did it to me in a situation.

I'm gonna do it.

I'm gonna do it.

So yeah, walk ahead of me.

So yeah, walk ahead of me.

I haven't seen them in so long. Wow, these title cards too. Wow? Last in the past. Man, How do you feel I forgot? How we used to be a little bit more antagonistic? So interesting to see. I haven't watched the web series, and a lot of it was taken down because we used whatever music we wanted and then they you know, you can't do that. But that kind of moment was what we brainstormed in the pizza shop. I still have this, you know, like the black and white composition notebooks. I still have the one where we wrote all these ideas which were making change.

I haven't seen them in so long. Wow, these title cards too. Wow? Last in the past. Man, How do you feel I forgot? How we used to be a little bit more antagonistic? So interesting to see. I haven't watched the web series, and a lot of it was taken down because we used whatever music we wanted and then they you know, you can't do that. But that kind of moment was what we brainstormed in the pizza shop. I still have this, you know, like the black and white composition notebooks. I still have the one where we wrote all these ideas which were making change.

You know.

You know.

The other one was like how you can't get so dumb, Like it's just so dumb. How this what I'm about to say is like an idea that was on a whiteboard for so for years, for like six years, was that in New York and a lot of places, you can't get eggs after eleven, Like they won't make you an egg sandwich, let's say.

The other one was like how you can't get so dumb, Like it's just so dumb. How this what I'm about to say is like an idea that was on a whiteboard for so for years, for like six years, was that in New York and a lot of places, you can't get eggs after eleven, Like they won't make you an egg sandwich, let's say.

And you know this because you're asking for eggs for dinner.

And you know this because you're asking for eggs for dinner.

No, I think you're like in my earlier days, wake up late and kind of want one at one, can't get it, and like what's with that? And listen, now you're gonna want one later and you're gonna be upset.

No, I think you're like in my earlier days, wake up late and kind of want one at one, can't get it, and like what's with that? And listen, now you're gonna want one later and you're gonna be upset.

Oh, I'll be upset anyway. I don't worry about that.

Oh, I'll be upset anyway. I don't worry about that.

But you know, it was all about like stuff that we had talked about just as our friendship, and we were like that's that's one. We're like this is one, and sometimes we got like really heightened.

But you know, it was all about like stuff that we had talked about just as our friendship, and we were like that's that's one. We're like this is one, and sometimes we got like really heightened.

And really weird.

And really weird.

But it all was kind of stemming from just like this little thing that we were noticing and like in a way like a stand up would talk about, like isn't it crazy you don't get egg you know?

But it all was kind of stemming from just like this little thing that we were noticing and like in a way like a stand up would talk about, like isn't it crazy you don't get egg you know?

But ours was is that your Seinfeld?

But ours was is that your Seinfeld?

That she really was?

That she really was?

But that's in the notebook. And then we used that storyline in like season four of the TV show. I love that that stuff like never change, like we evolved I think as people, but as like the show. I think if you watch the web version, you're like, oh, this is like the seed or this is like a little bit, and then you the TV version like expanded a lot, like an episode is like every episode is a day, but those little moments are still there throughout. That's wild to watch that.

But that's in the notebook. And then we used that storyline in like season four of the TV show. I love that that stuff like never change, like we evolved I think as people, but as like the show. I think if you watch the web version, you're like, oh, this is like the seed or this is like a little bit, and then you the TV version like expanded a lot, like an episode is like every episode is a day, but those little moments are still there throughout. That's wild to watch that.

Does it feel like a lifetime ago?

Does it feel like a lifetime ago?

Yeah, it feels like a lifetime ago. And then also like I'm so excited about this new show and telling these new stories, and when I watched that, it was like the first time of my life where I was like this, this is what I want to do. It's a really good reminder because I'm doing what i want to do. But lately, in the middle of this big new it's like massive, competitive brod City. It's just like you get caught up and you get swept up a little bit in this industry, and that is like so simple. It's like a friendship. I will never forget the feeling of us realizing that that could be something like Alana, and that show is very much much like falling love. It's like very much like my first love in this so it'll always have that for me.

Yeah, it feels like a lifetime ago. And then also like I'm so excited about this new show and telling these new stories, and when I watched that, it was like the first time of my life where I was like this, this is what I want to do. It's a really good reminder because I'm doing what i want to do. But lately, in the middle of this big new it's like massive, competitive brod City. It's just like you get caught up and you get swept up a little bit in this industry, and that is like so simple. It's like a friendship. I will never forget the feeling of us realizing that that could be something like Alana, and that show is very much much like falling love. It's like very much like my first love in this so it'll always have that for me.

We'll be right back after a quick break. Before the break, you were talking about falling in love with Ilana. I just want to go to something here, because in twenty fourteen, broad City gets picked up by Comedy Central. Through the first few seasons, you and Ilana seem to be breathlessly working to make this show possible. It demands everything of you both, and yet come season four, I believe you fall in love for the first time. Yeah, and then in the process of falling in love and falling out of it, you find yourself doing a scene in a closet on a sound stage for season four, it.

We'll be right back after a quick break. Before the break, you were talking about falling in love with Ilana. I just want to go to something here, because in twenty fourteen, broad City gets picked up by Comedy Central. Through the first few seasons, you and Ilana seem to be breathlessly working to make this show possible. It demands everything of you both, and yet come season four, I believe you fall in love for the first time. Yeah, and then in the process of falling in love and falling out of it, you find yourself doing a scene in a closet on a sound stage for season four, it.

Was a closet that Alana had like covered in tinfoil to act like a sad lamp.

Was a closet that Alana had like covered in tinfoil to act like a sad lamp.

What happened in then in a.

What happened in then in a.

Great way, like broad City was very much for my life. And I also was so lucky that I was working with my best friends, you know, Alana and then Paul w Downs and Luccia and Yellow and Jenstatsky. It felt so much like a family that I wasn't so much like where's my balance because I was like always with my friends, but there was always this piece of like I had never been in love. So when that happened, it was incredible, as it is for everybody, and it enlivened me. And I was fill doing the show at the time, and it was like this whole new thing. And then when it ended, I had ever experienced heartbreak like that either. And it was just like one season after the other, like for a while, it was like very back to back, and I was just really depressed and really numb, and really thankful I had the show because I could like snap into Abby, like it was like thank God that I have Abby Abrams to be for the day, who was like full of energy. But when we were not shooting. I was just really holding it together. I could thrive in the work because I could be somewhere else. And so that night it was so late, Alanna was working at a restaurant. The closet at the restaurant, we were shooting on a sound stage, and I was standing outside. I had to like enter the closet and talk to Alana and I'm standing outside the soundstage and I'm like about to break down, and then they called action and I listen. I would crumble every night when I went home. It was like really a bad time. I mean, I just said it, but I just was very thankful to have had that alternate version of myself that got to be freaking out about their mom in a restaurant asking them how many men they had sex with. I think that's the episode. You know, like the stakes of like my life and her life at the time were like just as high.

Great way, like broad City was very much for my life. And I also was so lucky that I was working with my best friends, you know, Alana and then Paul w Downs and Luccia and Yellow and Jenstatsky. It felt so much like a family that I wasn't so much like where's my balance because I was like always with my friends, but there was always this piece of like I had never been in love. So when that happened, it was incredible, as it is for everybody, and it enlivened me. And I was fill doing the show at the time, and it was like this whole new thing. And then when it ended, I had ever experienced heartbreak like that either. And it was just like one season after the other, like for a while, it was like very back to back, and I was just really depressed and really numb, and really thankful I had the show because I could like snap into Abby, like it was like thank God that I have Abby Abrams to be for the day, who was like full of energy. But when we were not shooting. I was just really holding it together. I could thrive in the work because I could be somewhere else. And so that night it was so late, Alanna was working at a restaurant. The closet at the restaurant, we were shooting on a sound stage, and I was standing outside. I had to like enter the closet and talk to Alana and I'm standing outside the soundstage and I'm like about to break down, and then they called action and I listen. I would crumble every night when I went home. It was like really a bad time. I mean, I just said it, but I just was very thankful to have had that alternate version of myself that got to be freaking out about their mom in a restaurant asking them how many men they had sex with. I think that's the episode. You know, like the stakes of like my life and her life at the time were like just as high.

But really about different things, you know, And it was like so.

But really about different things, you know, And it was like so.