The boys talk about the one trait all good leaders have, and Jonnie comes up with the perfect Christmas sermon series, & John talks about attractional elements of church, for better or worse. Plus, a frozen car horn ruins Jonnie’s night, and the guys give tips on how NOT to handle a gas fire.

Also, a conversation on optimism, and whether a negative person can change their outlook.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by The Flu™️😷 : "Say it AND spray it!"

The boys talk about the one trait all good leaders have, and Jonnie comes up with the perfect Christmas sermon series, & John talks about attractional elements of church, for better or worse. Plus, a frozen car horn ruins Jonnie’s night, and the guys give tips on how NOT to handle a gas fire. Also, a conversation on optimism, and whether a negative person can change their outlook. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by The Flu™️😷 : "Say it AND spray it!"

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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The boys talk about the one trait all good leaders have, and Jonnie comes up with the perfect Christmas sermon series, & John talks about attractional elements of church, for better or worse. Plus, a frozen car horn ruins Jonnie’s night, and the...