Today Jonnie jumps out of a moving car 🚙 & gets chased by a pygmy, while John pretends to be dead. Jeffrey Holland, a dear friend & producer, joins them in studio to recount the weirdest things they’ve done to make church folks laugh, including homemade fireballs & dressing up like dinosaurs 🦖.

Also, a conversation on whether popular culture is fueling cognitive dissonance in modern Christians.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Squirrels 🐿®️: “Just like rats, but with way better marketing."

Today Jonnie jumps out of a moving car 🚙 & gets chased by a pygmy, while John pretends to be dead. Jeffrey Holland, a dear friend & producer, joins them in studio to recount the weirdest things they’ve done to make church folks laugh, including homemade fireballs & dressing up like dinosaurs 🦖. Also, a conversation on whether popular culture is fueling cognitive dissonance in modern Christians. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Squirrels 🐿®️: “Just like rats, but with way better marketing."

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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Today Jonnie jumps out of a moving car 🚙 & gets chased by a pygmy, while John pretends to be dead. Jeffrey Holland, a dear friend & producer, joins them in studio to recount the weirdest things they’ve done to make church folks laugh,...