John goes for a jog and gets attacked by an unlikely predator. Meanwhile, Jonnie decides not to tell his Kenny Rogers joke for a very good reason, and dreams of getting a key to the City (any city will do).

Plus, we learn why anxiety is like a rocking chair (and not in a good way), and how security can become an unhealthy fixation.

Today's Episode is NOT sponsored by Door Dash: "When you absolutely NEED a $48 cheeseburger."


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John goes for a jog and gets attacked by an unlikely predator. Meanwhile, Jonnie decides not to tell his Kenny Rogers joke for a very good reason, and dreams of getting a key to the City (any city will do).
Plus, we learn why anxiety is like a rocking chair (and not in a good way), and how security can become an unhealthy fixation.
Today's Episode is NOT sponsored by Door Dash: "When you absolutely NEED a $48 cheeseburger."
 FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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