On today’s episode: John considers an esophagus stretching procedure, Jonnie expects a (metaphorical) bucket of blood to fall on him, and shares his brother’s adoption story. Also, a conversation between two white dudes about racism, and the church’s potential role in reconciliation.

This episode is NOT sponsored by Fruit Stripe Gum®️. Fruit Stripe: By the time you finish this sentence, the flavor will be gone.

On today’s episode: John considers an esophagus stretching procedure, Jonnie expects a (metaphorical) bucket of blood to fall on him, and shares his brother’s adoption story. Also, a conversation between two white dudes about racism, and the church’s potential role in reconciliation. This episode is NOT sponsored by Fruit Stripe Gum®️. Fruit Stripe: By the time you finish this sentence, the flavor will be gone.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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On today’s episode: John considers an esophagus stretching procedure, Jonnie expects a (metaphorical) bucket of blood to fall on him, and shares his brother’s adoption story. Also, a conversation between two white dudes about racism, and the...