On today’s show, Jonnie retracts his apology, John is confounded by a toilet paper commercial 🧻, and the boys ponder a career in professional wrestling 🤼‍♀️. 

Also, a conversation about spiritual metaphors and their limits.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Cottage Cheese®️: “Good luck trying to tell when we’ve spoiled."

On today’s show, Jonnie retracts his apology, John is confounded by a toilet paper commercial 🧻, and the boys ponder a career in professional wrestling 🤼‍♀️.  Also, a conversation about spiritual metaphors and their limits. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Cottage Cheese®️: “Good luck trying to tell when we’ve spoiled."

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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On today’s show, Jonnie retracts his apology, John is confounded by a toilet paper commercial 🧻, and the boys ponder a career in professional wrestling 🤼‍♀️.  Also, a conversation about spiritual metaphors and their limits....