On today’s show, Jonnie hates marketing, but has to do it if he wants to eat, while John responds to a professional book reviewer (and immediately regrets it), and wrestles with a mysterious message on a license plate.

Also, a conversation about sheltering ourselves and others from pain, and whether it’s always a good thing.

This episode is NOT sponsored by Fireworks™️🧨 : "Celebrate America’s independence with explosives made in China!"

On today’s show, Jonnie hates marketing, but has to do it if he wants to eat, while John responds to a professional book reviewer (and immediately regrets it), and wrestles with a mysterious message on a license plate. Also, a conversation about sheltering ourselves and others from pain, and whether it’s always a good thing. This episode is NOT sponsored by Fireworks™️🧨 : "Celebrate America’s independence with explosives made in China!"

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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On today’s show, Jonnie hates marketing, but has to do it if he wants to eat, while John responds to a professional book reviewer (and immediately regrets it), and wrestles with a mysterious message on a license plate. Also, a conversation about...