John is terrified of youth (even though he was a youth pastor) and congratulates Jonnie on his symmetrical face wounds. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals the surprising star who was rejected for the lead role in the original Terminator movie and tells the tale of Fred Turner, the man who walked across America.

Plus, a conversation about asking, seeking, and knocking—and why our persistence in prayer sometimes matters more than the prayer itself.

Today's episode is NOT sponsored by A Little Something Sweet: “Hating yourself after a salty, fatty meal? It's time for a Little Something Sweet".

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