John is self conscious of his squeaky shoes, and writes a song about dying frogs. Meanwhile, Jonnie auditions for the celebrity judges on America’s Got Talent and gets nauseous at Dollywood. 

Plus, a conversation about our need for control and the importance of trusting God in uncertain times. 

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