John and Jonnie talk about being your own worst critic, and whether standup comedy is portrayed realistically on TV and movies. Then, a conversation on not "playing it safe", creatively, and the importance of staying vulnerable.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Lettuce Wraps 🥬™️: “The worst tacos ever."

John and Jonnie talk about being your own worst critic, and whether standup comedy is portrayed realistically on TV and movies. Then, a conversation on not "playing it safe", creatively, and the importance of staying vulnerable. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Lettuce Wraps 🥬™️: “The worst tacos ever."

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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John and Jonnie talk about being your own worst critic, and whether standup comedy is portrayed realistically on TV and movies. Then, a conversation on not "playing it safe", creatively, and the importance of staying vulnerable. Today’s episode is...