John has a late night thanks to T-swift and some T-storms, and reveals how long he needs to know someone before going in for a hug. Meanwhile, Jonnie explains why there’s a phone booth on top of the courthouse in Lincoln, Illinois and spends a LOT of money on his dog’s knees. 

Plus, a conversation about cynicism and hopefulness, and why it’s always more courageous to believe the best about people. 

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Party Size Bags of Potato Chips: “Look, we know there’s no party. Just eat the chips, weirdo.”

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John has a late night thanks to T-swift and some T-storms, and reveals how long he needs to know someone before going in for a hug. Meanwhile, Jonnie explains why there’s a phone booth on top of the courthouse in Lincoln, Illinois and spends a LOT of money on his dog’s knees. 
Plus, a conversation about cynicism and hopefulness, and why it’s always more courageous to believe the best about people. 
Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Party Size Bags of Potato Chips: “Look, we know there’s no party. Just eat the chips, weirdo.”
Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat 
FOLLOW Jonnie W.: <a href="https://jonniew.com/">https://jonniew.com</a>
FOLLOW John Driver: <a href="https://johndriver.com/">https://johndriver.com</a>
Listen now on any platform at <a href="http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com/">http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com</a> 
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg</a>

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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