Jonnie assesses his market value for prerecorded messages to fans in Cameo, while John has Taco Bell for the first time in ages. Then the boys discuss whether the isolation is making dumb ideas trend on social media.

Also a conversation about what occurs when our values clash with the party line of our tribe, and why people are more than one thing.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Hammocks™️: “Are you relaxed, or trapped?”

Jonnie assesses his market value for prerecorded messages to fans in Cameo, while John has Taco Bell for the first time in ages. Then the boys discuss whether the isolation is making dumb ideas trend on social media. Also a conversation about what occurs when our values clash with the party line of our tribe, and why people are more than one thing. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Hammocks™️: “Are you relaxed, or trapped?”

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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Jonnie assesses his market value for prerecorded messages to fans in Cameo, while John has Taco Bell for the first time in ages. Then the boys discuss whether the isolation is making dumb ideas trend on social media. Also a conversation about what...