John shouts at the clouds about the return of a certain hairstyle and tries to come up with photoshoot poses that aren’t awkward. Meanwhile, Jonnie accidentally steals someone else’s luggage on a road trip and tells the story of the world’s foremost school for department store Santas. 

Plus, a conversation about honor culture and the fine line between healthy and toxic when it comes to memorializing flawed people. 

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by The Snooze Button: “It’s the best sleep you will ever have, right before you lose your job.”



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John shouts at the clouds about the return of a certain hairstyle and tries to come up with photoshoot poses that aren’t awkward. Meanwhile, Jonnie accidentally steals someone else’s luggage on a road trip and tells the story of the world’s foremost school for department store Santas. 
Plus, a conversation about honor culture and the fine line between healthy and toxic when it comes to memorializing flawed people. 
Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by The Snooze Button: “It’s the best sleep you will ever have, right before you lose your job.”
 
Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat 
FOLLOW Jonnie W.: <a href="https://jonniew.com/">https://jonniew.com</a>
FOLLOW John Driver: <a href="https://johndriver.com/">https://johndriver.com</a>
Listen now on any platform at <a href="http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com/">http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com</a> 
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg</a>

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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