John tells us the secret to happiness and gives his daughter (and himself) a birthday gift. 

Meanwhile, Jonnie takes a bucket list trip with his 84-year old father in law and comes up with a new way to get people to look at positive news stories. 

Plus, a conversation about the laziness of contrarianism and why we will be remembered for what we built, not what we've torn down. 

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Paper Straws: “Saving the earth by instantly biodegrading in the cup.”



FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com

FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com 

WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

John tells us the secret to happiness and gives his daughter (and himself) a birthday gift. 
Meanwhile, Jonnie takes a bucket list trip with his 84-year old father in law and comes up with a new way to get people to look at positive news stories. 
Plus, a conversation about the laziness of contrarianism and why we will be remembered for what we built, not what we've torn down. 
Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Paper Straws: “Saving the earth by instantly biodegrading in the cup.”
 
FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com 
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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