John talks about the two main problem issues he sees in most marriages, and deals with his own issues while running. Meanwhile, Jonnie sees a local endorsement deal opportunity for Michael Tait (of DC Talk fame), sending the boys down the CCM rabbit hole.

Also, a conversation on what it means to be “in the light”.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Soup ®️🥣: “It’s the drink you can eat!"

John talks about the two main problem issues he sees in most marriages, and deals with his own issues while running. Meanwhile, Jonnie sees a local endorsement deal opportunity for Michael Tait (of DC Talk fame), sending the boys down the CCM rabbit hole. Also, a conversation on what it means to be “in the light”. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Soup ®️🥣: “It’s the drink you can eat!"

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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John talks about the two main problem issues he sees in most marriages, and deals with his own issues while running. Meanwhile, Jonnie sees a local endorsement deal opportunity for Michael Tait (of DC Talk fame), sending the boys down the...