Jonnie ponders if he would lose his creative drive if he were super rich, while John withers under cross-examination from a Southern lawyer. Then, the boys chat about their show being “Unrated”.

Also, a conversation about Michael Jordan, bad journalism, and being present.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Breakfast 🍳: “The 7th most important meal of the day."

Jonnie ponders if he would lose his creative drive if he were super rich, while John withers under cross-examination from a Southern lawyer. Then, the boys chat about their show being “Unrated”. Also, a conversation about Michael Jordan, bad journalism, and being present. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Breakfast 🍳: “The 7th most important meal of the day."

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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Jonnie ponders if he would lose his creative drive if he were super rich, while John withers under cross-examination from a Southern lawyer. Then, the boys chat about their show being “Unrated”. Also, a conversation about Michael...