John traps a groundhog and immediately makes it into a sermon illustration. Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn't like it when restaurants use animals as mascots, and learns about the time in history when tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Plus, a conversation about masculinity, vulnerability, and common sense.

Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Pickleball: "It's never too late to tear your achilles."

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John traps a groundhog and immediately makes it into a sermon illustration. Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn't like it when restaurants use animals as mascots, and learns about the time in history when tomatoes were considered poisonous.
Plus, a conversation about masculinity, vulnerability, and common sense.
Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Pickleball: "It's never too late to tear your achilles."
FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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