John discovers the subtle difference between prison inmates and referees, and unveils a new jingle candidate for his Quote of the Week segment. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders whether ancient philosophers would’ve been discouraged if they had put their ideas on Facebook and tells the story of Oprah Winfrey and a wheelbarrow full of fat. 

Plus, a conversation about what liberty really looks like vs. what we think it is. 

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Airplane Pillows: “When you want to sleep on a flight, but also want to walk around with a neck brace all day.”



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John discovers the subtle difference between prison inmates and referees, and unveils a new jingle candidate for his Quote of the Week segment. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders whether ancient philosophers would’ve been discouraged if they had put their ideas on Facebook and tells the story of Oprah Winfrey and a wheelbarrow full of fat. 
Plus, a conversation about what liberty really looks like vs. what we think it is. 
Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Airplane Pillows: “When you want to sleep on a flight, but also want to walk around with a neck brace all day.”
 
Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat 
FOLLOW Jonnie W.: <a href="https://jonniew.com/">https://jonniew.com</a>
FOLLOW John Driver: <a href="https://johndriver.com/">https://johndriver.com</a>
Listen now on any platform at <a href="http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com/">http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com</a> 
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg</a>

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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