John and Jonnie discuss paying college athletes, the Cold War, and the Space Race. Jonnie spends way too much time on the Flat Earth Society’s website, and John laments his wife's obsession with the volleyball scene in Top Gun. Plus, a conversation on freedom from sin, and how the Gospel isn’t only about healing our relationship with God.

This episode is NOT sponsored by Black Licorice®️. "Black Licorice®️: For people who love candy, but hate themselves.”

John and Jonnie discuss paying college athletes, the Cold War, and the Space Race. Jonnie spends way too much time on the Flat Earth Society’s website, and John laments his wife's obsession with the volleyball scene in Top Gun. Plus, a conversation on freedom from sin, and how the Gospel isn’t only about healing our relationship with God. This episode is NOT sponsored by Black Licorice®️. "Black Licorice®️: For people who love candy, but hate themselves.”

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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John and Jonnie discuss paying college athletes, the Cold War, and the Space Race. Jonnie spends way too much time on the Flat Earth Society’s website, and John laments his wife's obsession with the volleyball scene in Top Gun. Plus, a conversation...