This week, the John falls asleep with a lozenge in his mouth, Jonnie gets stuck in an airport, and they discuss the important topics, like whether the search for a more comfortable life is killing our creativity, and how smart phones have ruined small talk. Also, a conversation on how our impatience with mystery impedes lasting faith.

This episode is NOT sponsored by Steak and Shake’s®️new Cheeseburger Sliders: combine them with our tiny fries for the most adorable stomach cramps ever!

This week, the John falls asleep with a lozenge in his mouth, Jonnie gets stuck in an airport, and they discuss the important topics, like whether the search for a more comfortable life is killing our creativity, and how smart phones have ruined small talk. Also, a conversation on how our impatience with mystery impedes lasting faith. This episode is NOT sponsored by Steak and Shake’s®️new Cheeseburger Sliders: combine them with our tiny fries for the most adorable stomach cramps ever!

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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This week, the John falls asleep with a lozenge in his mouth, Jonnie gets stuck in an airport, and they discuss the important topics, like whether the search for a more comfortable life is killing our creativity, and how smart phones have ruined small...