At last! A serious conversation on the advantages of being relaxed, rested, comfy, and a little lazy. Robert Dessaix is one of Australia’s most highly regarded writers. His timely book, The Pleasures of Leisure, reminds us that working longer hours, multi-tasking, and being ‘crazy busy’ all the time is eroding our freedom to simply enjoy life. Thoughtful, witty, and engaging, it’s a topic we can all find time for, surely. He joins David Marr for a languid conversation.