Through her prize-winning books All That I Am and Stasiland, Anna Funder has deeply considered the cost of lying and truth-telling in powerful regimes. She’s joined by Jason Steger to discuss what happens to people who espouse lies and those who refuse to go along with them. The pair also highlight the inherent friction between power and truth, and consider how 30 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, we find ourselves in a new age of untruth.

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