Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick talk about how tough the holidays can be when you’re in recovery. They share three tips to help you get through it: dealing with the hurt of not being invited when "The Invitation May Not Be Coming," staying sober by setting boundaries because "Somebody Is Going to Chip You," and finding ways to enjoy the season, even if things look different, because "It’s the Most Wonderful Time of the Year." With real talk and straightforward advice, this episode helps you navigate Christmas while keeping your recovery on track.  

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick talk about recovery houses and how you can help support them in your community. Recovery houses are a lifeline for many people dealing with addiction or alcoholism. Ryan opens up about his time in a recovery house, and Matt offers ideas on how you can get involved to make a difference. Timestamps and Discussions: 3:34 - 6:45: Ryan shares what it was like moving into a recovery house and how its structure helped him find stability and start rebuilding his life.   6:46 - 10:14: He talks about living with others in recovery, their ups and downs, and how that shared support kept them on track.   10:15 - 13:45: Ryan reflects on his connection with his counselor, sharing how trust and guidance helped him push through tough moments.   13:46 - 17:00: He opens up about the life skills he learned in the recovery house, like managing money and creating healthier habits.   17:01 - 20:00: Ryan explains why community support is vital for recovery houses and offers simple ways to get involved and make a difference.   Resources You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org Meetings: aa.rgroup.org/meengs NA Meetings: virtual-na.orginte Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255   .

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick talk about how you can give without spending much money. They start with the value of putting in some elbow grease—helping out or giving your time to make life easier for someone else. Then, they look at volunteering, using your time and energy to support a cause or help those in need. Finally, they bring up the idea of giving “old school” with simple, homemade gifts or thoughtful gestures that can mean the world. Let’s dive into how these small efforts can bring joy and purpose to the season.

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick talk about hosting a Thanksgiving filled with connection, gratitude, and memories that matter. Whether you're in recovery or supporting someone who is, the focus is on simplicity, creating a welcoming atmosphere, and keeping the day meaningful. They share tips to make Thanksgiving enjoyable and inclusive without sacrificing fun or tradition. Key Takeaways Set the tone: Share your plan early and make guests feel comfortable. Add thoughtful touches: Create an inviting space with activities and moments that feel special. Keep it light: Avoid heavy conversations and focus on connection and gratitude. Timestamps and discussions: 4:19 - 6:27: Open bars can be a big trigger. Know your audience and consider your setup. 6:41 - 7:53: It’s your party—schedule meals and events that work for you. 8:10 - 9:03: Holiday cocktails can be tempting triggers. Plan non-alcoholic alternatives. 9:10 - 10:29: Thanksgiving is a time to celebrate hope, gratitude, and connection. 11:14 - 12:02: Matt shares a touching story about his grandmother and why connection matters. 12:15 - 13:16: Start a new tradition with a Thanksgiving 5K or other community events. 13:24 - 14:30: Keep conversations light and avoid divisive topics like politics. 15:00 - 17:08: The holidays aren’t therapy. Focus on enjoyment, not responsibility for others’ recovery. 17:26: A quick recap of the list. 18:00: Closing thoughts and gratitude. Resources You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org Meetings: aa.rgroup.org/meengs NA Meetings: virtual-na.orginte Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick dive into the challenges caregivers face when they’re supporting someone in active addiction while struggling with their own substance use. We explore key questions: Are you drinking to cope? How are you feeling? If you’re using, what and how much? Caregivers are the backbone of families, but you need to prioritize your own well-being. When you don’t take care of yourself, you risk burnout or relapse. This episode is packed with insights for caregivers who are also navigating their own addiction. Take care of you—we need you here. Joining the show:  Tina McIntosh, who started Joy’s House, and Corrina Thompson, its Community Relations Manager and Co-founder of Caregiver Way, join the show. They share personal stories about losing their fathers to alcoholism and offer insights from their work supporting caregivers and aging adults. Timestamps and discussions:  9:42 – 11:05: Tina and Corrina share how alcoholism impacted their families. 11:27 – 11:37: Corrina reflects on missing signs of her father’s addiction. 11:40 – 12:16: Sharing fond memories of their fathers. 12:16 – 14:48: Tina recounts a powerful story about her dad. 14:49 – 16:51: Did Tina or Corrina confront their fathers about alcoholism? 16:52 – 17:39: Corrina celebrates one year without alcohol! 17:55 – 19:06: Corrina talks about how self-care keeps her sober, and Tina adds her observations. 19:43 – 21:00: Are more caregivers using substances to cope today? 21:09 – 22:43: Why caregivers may be especially vulnerable during the holidays. 22:43 – 24:05: Practical ways caregivers can manage stres 24:26 – 26:15: Why identifying as a caregiver matters. 27:00 – 29:52: Key resources for caregivers to get suppor Resources You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Guest resources: Caregiver Way & Joy's House - Joy's House♫ Medicaid’s Hidden Support for Caregivers Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org Meetings: aa.rgroup.org/meengs NA Meetings: virtual-na.orginte Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss the complex dynamics between an addict and their caregiver during the holiday season, specifically focusing on whether or not to attend Thanksgiving dinner. Family gatherings come with numerous considerations: How long has your loved one been sober? Is the environment supportive? Will there be people drinking or using substances, potentially creating discomfort? With the holidays being a difficult period for many, this timely episode explores these questions to help caregivers and recovering individuals make informed choices. Timestamps and Discussions:  3:27 - 4:50 – The holidays pose challenges for both those using drugs and those in recovery. Ryan shares a personal story about advising an ex-girlfriend to skip her family’s Thanksgiving due to their drug use. 5:00 - 6:05 – Post-election season can heighten emotions; it’s essential to be mindful of how others might feel and react during gatherings. 6:10 - 7:26 – Matt and Ryan delve into the potential consequences of declining an invitation to Thanksgiving dinner, emphasizing that there are circumstances where an addict should consider not attending. 7:28 - 9:15 – The discussion shifts to the importance of genuine togetherness. Attending out of obligation alone can be detrimental; understanding why you’re choosing to go (or not) is crucial. 9:30 - 10:04 – Establishing an exit strategy is highlighted as a key tool. Open communication with loved ones about feelings and potential triggers is advised. 10:19 - 11:20 – Long trips to visit family can be stressful, especially if there is unresolved tension between members. 12:30 – Closing thoughts wrap up the discussion, reinforcing the importance of planning and self-awareness during the holidays. Resources You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org Meetings: aa.rgroup.org/meengs NA Meetings: virtual-na.orginte Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

In the last episode of our series on America’s fentanyl crisis, Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick break down two critical issues: how fentanyl is increasingly mixed into various drugs, including counterfeit pills sold online, leading to sudden overdose deaths, and how fentanyl addiction often begins with a prescription. They discuss the deadly and hidden risks of fentanyl in the drug supply and explore the path from medical use to dependency. Special Guest: ESPN’s Lauren Sisler Lauren Sisler, ESPN broadcaster and former gymnast, joins to discuss her new book, Shatterproof, where she shares her personal story of resilience after losing both parents to addiction. She talks about her journey of healing, the impact of addiction, and her hope to inspire others to address mental health and addiction with compassion and strength. Key Topics & Timestamps: 11:45 – 14:18: Lauren on courage and willingness to tell her story of losing her parents to addiction 22 years ago. 14:25 – 15:17: Lauren’s perspective on addiction and how it affected her parents, including their struggle with fentanyl addiction. 15:30 – 17:00: Insight into Lauren’s father’s job as a VA technician and the challenges he faced without any clear signs of his addiction’s severity. 17:08 – 20:03: How stigma around addiction may have stopped her parents from seeking help. 20:15 – 23:48: Writing Shatterproof as a therapeutic journey and a part of Lauren’s healing. 24:00 – 26:37: Lauren’s thoughts on discussing addiction with her son when he’s older. 27:00: Lauren’s advice for caregivers with loved ones suffering from addiction. Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Guest link: About — Lauren Sisler Al-Anon: Al-Anon.tiorg Meetings: aa.rgroup.org/meengs NA Meetings: virtual-na.orginte Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

In this third installment of the fentanyl series, Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick dive deeper into the epidemic, focusing on understanding addiction from all angles, listening to loved ones without judgment, and empowering rather than controlling them. Matt and Ryan discuss their personal journeys with addiction, school experiences, and the support (and challenges) from caregivers. They’re joined by Justin Phillips, Founder and Executive Director of Overdose Lifeline, Inc., to shed light on actionable steps for caregivers and harm reduction. Key Points: Big Picture of the Crisis: Fentanyl continues to take lives across the U.S. each year, with many unaware of how to help. Understanding vs. Control: Caregivers are encouraged to support their loved ones by fostering independence and engaging in open, non-judgmental dialogue. Timestamps and Discussion Highlights: 4:28 - 5:36 | Recap and Stakes: Matt recaps previous episodes, emphasizing the stakes for loved ones. 5:38 - 7:31 | Addiction and Denial: Ryan reflects on his denial during active addiction, showing how addiction’s grip fuels fentanyl use. 8:13 - 9:47 | Listening to Understand: For caregivers, understanding without judgment is key. Recognize signs like self-centeredness and behavioral shifts. 11:35 - 12:07 | Staying Engaged: Caregivers should ask questions and remain engaged, balancing support with respect for boundaries. 12:25 - 13:00 | Resource, Not Solution: Caregivers are there to guide, not to "fix" addiction; true recovery comes from within. 13:10 - 14:30 | Encouraging Independence: Promoting independence can build your loved one's confidence and structure. 14:35 - 15:43 | Scare Tactics: Matt discusses how scare tactics backfired in his journey, pushing him further into addiction rather than away. 18:04 - 18:54 | Keeping Fentanyl Out: Justin shares tips for caregivers to help keep fentanyl away from loved ones. 19:13 - 20:48 | Personal Loss: Justin shares the tragic loss of her son to an overdose, reflecting on behaviors she missed, and lessons learned. 21:08 - 22:30 | Fentanyl Education: Overdose Lifeline provides resources for those looking to educate themselves on fentanyl risks. 22:05 - 23:30 | Social Media Risk: Awareness about fentanyl purchases on social media is critical for caregivers. 23:31 - 28:00 | Harm Reduction Explained: An introduction to harm reduction—what it is, why it’s effective, and how it supports recovery. 29:01 | Closing Thoughts: Wrapping up, Matt and Ryan emphasize the importance of support, education, and the right approach to caregiving. Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Guest link: Substance Use Disorder Help and Prevention - Overdose Lifeline Al-Anon: Al-Anon.tiorg Meetings: aa.rgroup.org/meengs NA Meetings: virtual-na.orginte Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick continue their conversation about the fentanyl crisis. They explain how dealers lace drugs and how users use social media to communicate with dealers, often using emojis to hide their actions from loved ones and police. This episode builds on our ongoing series about fentanyl, which has claimed hundreds of thousands of lives in recent years. Two women from a treatment center in Indianapolis share their stories of fentanyl overdose. Timestamps and Key Discussions: 4:02 - 12:45: Insights from women at Harbor Light, their shocking comments on fentanyl, and our reactions. 13:01 - 13:56: Ryan recalls a story where a crack dealer explained the need for coded language in user-dealer communication. 14:26 - 18:49: Discussion on common emojis used by dealers and users to communicate about drugs. 18:54 - 20:11: Some dealers use fake test strip photos to claim their drugs are fentanyl-free. Why this happens. 20:14 - 24:15: Narcan as a short-term solution and the difference between recovery and Narcan’s impact. Ryan explains why people in recovery don't consider Narcan as part of recovery. 25:20 - 28:00: Closing thoughts. Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.tiorg Meetings: aa.rgroup.org/meengs NA Meetings: virtual-na.orginte Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick dive into the complexities of the fentanyl crisis, discussing how the drug has killed hundreds of thousands in recent years. Fentanyl is dangerous not only because of its strength but also because it's often mixed with other drugs. People are using it both knowingly and unknowingly, as it's found in pills, powder, and even marijuana. Law enforcement is seeing more fentanyl in traffic stops and raids across the country. Special Guest: Michael Gannon, Assistant Special Agent in Charge (DEA-Indianapolis), joins the show to discuss enforcement, prevention, and education efforts around the fentanyl crisis. Timestamps & Key Discussions: 19:37 - 20:33: Gannon explains the two types of fentanyl – one prescribed by doctors and the other made by drug traffickers and shipped across the U.S. 20:34 - 22:25: Gannon reflects on when fentanyl became a significant problem, recalling his time as a lead agent in Florida. He highlights how fentanyl has caused a rise in overdose deaths. 23:06 - 26:39: There's never been a more dangerous time to use drugs. The DEA warns against taking pills unless prescribed by a doctor, emphasizing the risks of accepting drugs from friends. 27:04 - 29:34: Gannon illustrates the potency of fentanyl, comparing lethal doses to the size of a pencil tip or penny. He shares heartbreaking stories from 911 calls, including a young girl who lost her father to an overdose. 30:00 - 32:00: Discussion on carfentanil, a tranquilizer for elephants, which is now being mixed into street drugs. Gannon also names cartels involved in trafficking fentanyl. 32:15 - 34:15: People are being poisoned by drug dealers selling fentanyl, and Gannon talks about the difficulties in prosecuting these cases. 35:15 - 36:41: Gannon explains Red Ribbon Week, paying tribute to DEA Special Agent Enrique "Kiki" Camarena, whose death inspired the movement for a drug-free nation. Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Guest resource: 2024 National Red Ribbon Rally | Get Smart About Drugs Al-Anon: Al-Anon.tiorg Meetings: aa.rgroup.org/meengs NA Meetings: virtual-na.orginte Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss how everyday household items can be used as drug paraphernalia. They cover items like PVC pipes, spoons, and even fruit. The episode is about helping caregivers recognize these things, but the focus is on behavior changes as the real warning signs. Instead of getting caught up in objects, pay attention to how your loved one is acting. Timestamps & Key Takeaways: 5:35 - 6:38: Ryan shares how he and his friends used bounce sheets and toilet paper rolls to trick their parents and hide their drug use. 6:50 - 8:09: Matt talks about early warning signs of someone starting to use drugs or alcohol. Look out for shifts in behavior or routines. 8:13 - 9:06: Matt’s “favorite” paraphernalia was an empty liquor bottle—highlighting how addicts can get attached to these objects. 9:15 - 11:15: Matt shares how his “dealer” was just the liquor store, and Ryan talks about the distinct smell of cocaine. 11:39 - 12:30: Fentanyl can be odorless, making it harder to detect. The paraphernalia used for fentanyl can vary widely. 12:44 - 15:15: Toiletry items are often repurposed for smoking weed. Addicts get creative fruit, like apples and oranges, can also be used for drug use. 15:16 - 16:07: Money is a common tool for people ingesting drugs like cocaine or other powders. 16:08 - 17:30: Spoons are often linked to heroin use. Check the bottom of spoons—if it’s burnt, it could be a sign of use. 17:45 - 18:15: Matt describes how a mask can be used to inhale substances and get high. 18:20 - 19:30: Ryan shares his experience using a light bulb to smoke drugs. 19:40 - 21:00: A "bullet" is a small container that holds cocaine, making it easy to conceal. Caregivers should be aware of this item. 21:00 - 24:00: Visine and sunglasses can also be signs—used to hide bloodshot eyes or dilated pupils. 25:15: Closing Thoughts—Stay aware of behavior changes more than objects. Paraphernalia can be anything, but how your loved one acts is always the best indicator. Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.tiorg Meetings: aa.rgroup.org/meengs NA Meetings: virtual-na.orginte Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick explain that the 12th Step is more than just sharing our message with others—it's about showing the caregiver how we can be there for each other. They discuss how putting this Step into action shows our commitment to real change and helps create a healthier, more supportive environment. It's not just about recovery—it's about growing stronger relationships as we move forward. We're now spiritually awake, and while you once took care of us, we're stepping up to take responsibility for others. You might even catch us helping out more at home or doing service work to give back. Timestamps and discussions: 4:00 - 4:22: Kickoff: Exploring the Essence of the 12th Step Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick start the episode by discussing the 12th Step in recovery. They explain that this Step isn't just about sharing what you've learned; it's also about building strong connections with those who support you. 4:46 - 6:36: Matt's Insight: The Role of Prayer in the 12th Step Matt discusses the importance of prayer in the 12th Step, describing it as a way to connect with yourself and your beliefs. He believes that prayer helps keep people grounded on their recovery journey. 6:45 - 9:24: Embracing Change: Adopting a New Lifestyle in Recovery The conversation shifts to the changes people need to make once they stop using substances. Matt emphasizes that it's essential to embrace a new way of living that supports a healthier lifestyle. 10:54 - 13:38: The Paradox of Recovery: Strengthening Ourselves by Helping Others Matt talks about the surprising truth that sharing your recovery story actually helps your own journey. By helping others, you not only support them but also strengthen your own commitment to staying on track. 14:18 - 15:38: The Heartbeat of Recovery: The Importance of Sponsorship Sponsorship is highlighted as a key part of many recovery programs, providing essential support and encouragement. Matt shares his personal experiences with sponsorship and how it has helped him in his recovery. 17:07 - 20:00: Family Connections: Ryan's Story of Service and Unity Ryan shares a personal story about his mother-in-law visiting him and his wife, showing how service work has brought them closer together. He emphasizes how helping others can strengthen family bonds and understanding. 20:10 - 22:35: Healing Through Service: How the 12 Steps Transform Lives They discuss how the 12 steps can be healing, especially when you focus on helping others. Matt and Ryan highlight the importance of feeling like you're part of something bigger through acts of service. 23:00 - End: From Meetings to Home: Building Stronger Relationships through Service Matt and Ryan wrap up by reflecting on how what they learn in recovery meetings can improve their personal relationships. They stress that the skills gained from helping others make connecting and adapting to everyday life easier. Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.rgroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.orginte Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss the 10th and 11th steps of recovery. They explain how everything in the earlier steps leads to this point, focusing on personal growth and spiritual connection. These steps help someone in recovery become more aware of themselves and reflect on their daily actions. This process helps them build a stronger, healthier relationship with their caregiver, bringing more understanding and support into their lives. Timestamps and discussions:  4:40 - 5:00 - Introduction to episode.  5:52 - 8:08  - Overview of Steps 1-9 and their significance for Steps 10 and 11. 8:38 - 9:38 - Surrendering control is part of the struggle that will help set us free. 9:46 - 11:22 - Addicts often think they’re the only ones going through their struggles, but that’s not true.  12:09  - 14:45 -  Being honest with ourselves and those we care about helps us recognize how our addiction has taken control of our lives. It allows us to face the realities of life. 17:29 - 22:30  - Recovery is an ongoing journey. Every person in recovery will face a life event that challenges their progress. Steps 10 and 11 focus on spiritual principles that help us re-learn important lessons. This involves using a daily checklist along with prayer and meditation. 23:16 - 28:22 -  Recapping list and closing thoughts.  Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.rgroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.orginte Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-825

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss Steps 8 and 9, which focus on making amends and repairing the harm caused by addiction. They explain how to create a list of those who were hurt, the right way to make amends, and why this process is essential for recovery. Caregivers will gain insights into how these steps help rebuild relationships and support their loved ones during this crucial part of the journey. Joining the Show:  Matt Youngblood, who has been in recovery for several years, joins the show to discuss his personal experience. On November 9, 2019, Matt was driving with his father when they were involved in a car accident. He shares the impact of the accident and how it led him to the amends process, especially in rebuilding his relationship with his mother. Timestamps and Discussions: 21:19 - 22:18: Introduction to Matt Youngblood and the accident involving his father. 22:23 - 23:30: Matt talks about blame and his mom's reaction to his father's death. 23:38 - 25:50: Did the accident stop Matt's use of drugs and alcohol? 26:03 - 26:48: Discussion on the amends process, focusing on the "Three R's." 28:18 - 29:48: The accident resulted from years of disappointment. The amends process began when Matt entered recovery. 29:51 - 31:40: Matt breaks down the rest of the steps and how they prepared him for the amends process. 32:03 - 33:54: Matt continues to honor his recovery commitment and the people he has made amends to, introducing the concept of "living amends." 35:00: Closing thoughts. Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.rgroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.orginte Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-825

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick explore how Steps 6 and 7 of the twelve-step recovery process can help your loved one’s journey and improve their relationship with you. Step 6 is about letting go of what holds you back, while Step 7 is seeking help to make those changes. Together, these steps focus on acceptance and humility, which are key to long-term recovery. Timestamps and Discussions: 3:33 - 5:27 Matt explains how Steps 6 and 7 go hand-in-hand. Now is the time to stop blaming others and acknowledge your flaws. 5:28 - 7:11 Ryan talks about how addiction is like a ticking time bomb. Addicts often sabotage their success, and Ryan shares how his behavior led to setbacks in his radio career. These flaws resurface because they become a crutch. 7:46 - 10:55 The discussion dives into different types of flaws that hinder recovery. A key issue for addicts is control—whether it's over conversations, relationships, or outcomes. A higher power is vital to letting go of these control issues. 12:12 - 13:17 Flaws are obstacles, but they can be removed. Matt and Ryan discuss how, if an addict works hard, these obstacles can be turned into something positive. 13:19 - 16:30 Recovery is about practice, not perfection. Ryan reflects on his three years in recovery, noting that each year brings more self-awareness. Matt explains how flaws can make us sicker and teach us more about our disease. 18:10 - 19:32 Matt and Ryan desire more healing. They emphasize the importance of recognizing flaws and praying for their removal. 21:00 - 24:00 Closing thoughts Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-825

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick continue talking about the steps in their recovery journeys, sharing how the twelve steps have made a positive difference in their lives and improved their relationships with those who support them. The idea is that these steps often provide the answers to what addicts or alcoholics are struggling with. By working through the steps, we can get better with ourselves, which helps us get better with the people who love and care for us. Step Four is about honestly examining your actions and behaviors and how they affect your life. It requires honesty and humility because it shows that you can’t do everything alone. Step Five takes this further by sharing what you’ve discovered with someone else and your higher power, admitting your flaws out loud. This helps you realize that you need support beyond just yourself. Timestamps and Discussions:  4:24 to 6:44 -  Matt discusses how these steps focus on the addict’s journey. In his Step Four, everyone he wrote about was a caregiver somehow. He explains how he uses the steps to measure what his relationships could look like. 6:44 to 8:23 -  Ryan discusses a question regarding what society expects of him in the fourth step. He shares how his obsession and compulsion can still be intense, even during recovery. He also mentions that Step Four looks at his strengths, not just the negatives. 8:36 - 8:59 - Why rigorous honesty is vital to the fourth step. Getting our house in order to do this step takes willingness.  9:26 - 11:13 - The guys explain how steps four and five are related. The fourth step involves looking inward to identify past actions. After looking at himself in step four, Ryan explains that step five is about talking to someone else about what he's found.  11:14 - 14:39 - Matt says step four is about writing, and step five is about talking. Matt was so paralyzed by shame that he found his writing cathartic—step four addresses anxiety, fear, and sexual behavior.  14:56 - 17:00 - The personal inventory in the fourth step is deeply personal and loving, allowing us to see things for what they were. When we were using, we were professional victims. We used every excuse in the book to continue our behavior. Ryan talks about the therapeutic value of one addict helping each other.  17:20 - 19:25 - We can't carry shame or will use/drink again. The steps are in order for a reason. Sitting in recovery meetings and listening to people share their experiences about how they apply the steps in their lives can help your addict identify similar experiences.  Pain can be a great motivator.  20:00 - 23:07 - The steps are designed to bring your addict closer to a loving higher power who can guide us in our recovery. Commitment is an often overlooked principle. Ryan talks about the fantasies he created during his drug use. Commitment to work and applying the principles in these steps is the most important thing your addict needs to do.  23:39 Closing thoughts.  Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick explore the first three steps of the twelve-step recovery process, which guide addicts in recognizing the problem, finding hope, and surrendering control. Despite their different journeys with addiction, both found healing through these steps. This episode is designed to show caregivers how important the Twelve Steps are for their loved ones. Understanding these steps gives caregivers a clearer view of the recovery path, from admitting the problem to finding hope in something greater, and trusting the support system to lead their loved one toward healing. The episode highlights why these steps matter and how they can help caregivers provide better support. Timestamps and Discussion 3:22 - 6:14 Step One: Recognizing the Illusion of Control Ryan shares how Step One helped him realize that the control he thought he had over his addiction was just an illusion. Accepting this truth opened the door to recovery. 6:15 - 7:48 Surrender to Win Matt explains the paradox of surrendering in Step One. While society tells us to fight for control, surrendering is a sign of growth for addicts. He highlights that honesty is key in this step. 7:45 - 11:18 Step Two: The Process of Believing Matt talks about his experience with Step Two, explaining that "we came to believe" doesn’t happen overnight. It's a gradual process that depends on the addict’s willingness to change. This step is about starting to believe in a higher power. 11:19 - 13:30 Finding a Higher Power Ryan discusses how to choose a higher power, emphasizing that it will become clearer as you move through the steps. He also shares some personal coincidences that made him more open to believing in something greater. 13:54 - 16:00 Step Three: Making a Decision The third step involves making a decision to trust in something greater than oneself. Ryan and Matt discuss the importance of commitment and surrender in this step. They also explain why choosing a person as a higher power didn’t work for them and how they found other sources of belief. 21:12 - 21:53 Recap A summary of the first three steps discussed in the episode. 22:36 - 25:40 Final Thoughts Matt and Ryan conclude the episode with thoughts on the importance of the first three steps for both addicts and caregivers. Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick have personal experience with addiction, having used different drugs and seen firsthand how addiction worsens over time. It often starts casually but becomes more severe as use continues. For caregivers, understanding the stages of addiction can help in finding the right support for their loved one. Addiction is a progressive, incurable condition that can be fatal without treatment. Matt and Ryan's recovery stories show that overcoming addiction is possible with the right help. Addiction usually starts with trying a substance just once. Then, it moves to using it regularly. After that, risky behaviors start, which increases harm. This leads to dependence, where the person feels a strong need for the substance. In the end, addiction takes over, making substance use a central and uncontrollable part of their life. Timestamps and Discussions: Starting Points of Addiction4:19 - 6:00: Matt's opioid use began with an ear infection, while Ryan started with weed. Drugs and Peer Pressure6:32 - 7:41: Drugs are often used to fit in during youth, and getting hooked early is common due to peer pressure. Escalation to Regular Use8:06 - 9:10: Matt and Ryan discuss the intensification of their use. Ryan quickly transitioned from coke to meth, a highly addictive substance. Risks and Recklessness10:52 - 13:04: The risky use stage is examined. Ryan describes his reckless behavior, including injecting himself and ending up homeless, while Matt talks about drinking alone and hiding his usage. Dependence and Life Takeover13:13 - 15:04: Matt explains how addiction dominated his life, making it impossible to function without alcohol. Ryan notes that dependence extends to all aspects of life, not just drugs and alcohol. Physical Symptoms of Addiction15:16 - 17:48: They discuss physical symptoms of addiction, including paranoia and anger when drugs run out, and how these signs can be recognized. Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick talk about dealing with substance use in the workplace and how the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) can help your loved one get the support they need. They’re not HR experts, but both have been through similar struggles with addiction at work. Society is starting to see addiction as a disease, and more employers are showing understanding toward those who need help. This is an important conversation for people in active addiction, those in recovery, and the people who care for them. Joining The Show:  Susan Rider is a highly experienced HR executive who specializes in consulting, employee benefits, wellness, and compliance. She is the Director of Compliance and HR Consulting at Human Capital Concepts, where she helps business leaders create strategies for long-term success. Susan is also the incoming President of the National Association of Benefit and Insurance Professionals (NABIP), where she plays a key role in improving industry standards. She has received several awards for her work, including NAHU’s Distinguished Service Award, being named one of Insurance Business Magazine’s Hot 100 Agents, and one of the 25 Most Influential Women in Benefit Advising by Employee Benefit Advisor. Timestamps and Discussion:  4:02 - 14:27: Introduction to Susan Rider. 14:25 - 16:23: Susan discusses how the ADA might protect your loved one's substance use at work. 16:26 - 18:48: Tips on how your loved one can discuss their addiction at work without worrying about losing their job or privacy. Leadership can help by starting these tough conversations. 19:27 - 21:15: Susan explains that while the ADA doesn’t protect drug or alcohol use at work, it does protect those who genuinely seek help. 21:37 - 23:57: The ADA also protects people with a history of addiction from job discrimination. However, some companies may still use drug or alcohol screenings that could affect employment opportunities. 25:00 - 27:07: Susan says businesses have come a long way in treating addiction as a disease. More people, including public figures, are starting to talk openly about it, helping to make these tough conversations more common. 27:22 - 29:19: There are lots of programs that offer employees hope and help. Insurance companies can provide help. Ask your local HR representative for details. Short-term disability can be an asset, and confidential programs at your job may have options for you.  Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick talk about how recovery is different for everyone, noting that each person has their own challenges. They discuss the difficulties of being a caregiver, especially the emotional stress it can cause. They also highlight the hard task of picking the right treatment provider for a loved one and how important this choice is for a successful recovery. They also discuss how addiction affects the whole family, changing the dynamics and interactions at home. By sharing their own experiences, Matt and Ryan illustrate the difficulties that come with addiction and how focusing on love can help create a supportive environment for recovery. Joining The Show:  Dr. Michael Miller, CEO and Medical Director of Miller Care Group. Dr. Miller is a board-certified general surgeon specializing in chronic wound management since 1997. He has traveled globally to provide wound care education through lectures, articles, and book chapters, and he volunteers annually in Honduras. Certified in addiction treatment since 2015, he also offers advanced pain management. Dr. Miller was named Physician of the Year in 2010 by the American Osteopathic Foundation and serves as an Assistant Professor at Marian University College of Osteopathic Medicine, where he mentors medical students. Timestamps and discussions:  11:22 - 14:39: Introduction to Dr. Miller and discussion about limited adolescent treatment choices. 14:57 - 18:52: The effectiveness of faith-based treatment and its long-term impact on recovery. 19:04 - 22:24: Caregiver challenges, including the legal inability to restrain a loved one who is using, especially if they are young and in recovery. 22:36 - 25:35: Accountability for for-profit treatment centers. Dr. Miller discusses the need for more accountability in businesses that treat addiction. 25:50 - 28:00: Dr. Miller's final thoughts, emphasizing hope in recovery and his passion for treating young people who are addicted. Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast!  Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 Guest Resource:  https://millercaregroup.com/ Guest on Social: @the_doc_is_on_tik_tok/

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss unrealistic expectations and how they can mess things up for caregivers and those in recovery. They share their own experiences with unrealistic expectations, like thinking relapse isn't part of recovery or that someone gets better immediately after they stop using or drinking. They also discuss the misconception that relationships improve instantly. This episode is a must-listen if you're new to recovery. Matt and Ryan know recovery is a long journey with ups and downs, so sit back and listen. We're glad you're on this journey with us. Discussions and timestamps:  4:07 - 7:00 - The recovering addict must decide they are done using. When they surrender, amazing things happen. The caregiver can offer support, but the caregiver's loved one must make that decision.  7:02 - 8:50 - Recovery is a journey. Restoring yourself means completely tearing down the old and rebuilding anew. The "Pink Cloud" is a real experience in recovery, bringing both highs and challenges. 9:03 - 11:22 - The guys talk about past episodes on boundaries because revisiting the past can be a major obstacle for caregivers and their loved ones in recovery. If you're having a hard time with your loved one and think they should be further along, try to be patient and give them grace as they do their best. 11:26 - 13:38 -  Recovery has no finish line. Some people think that if someone isn't using and goes to meetings, they are cured. Caregivers should notice positive changes in their loved one's behavior and actions if they are recovering, but they should know that they will never be fully cured. Addiction is a spiritual disease that needs ongoing care and principles. Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast! Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255

The stigma around addiction can prevent people from seeking recovery. In this episode, Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss how loved ones can understand and overcome this stigma by addressing common misconceptions. These include the beliefs that an addicted person is immoral, that they can stop using whenever they want, and that addiction is untreatable. Our position is that addiction is a progressive and incurable disease, but it can be managed by abstaining from mind or mood-altering substances. Joining the Show: Former Indiana State Senator Jim Merritt, R-Indianapolis, joins us. Elected to the Senate in 1990, Merritt is the longest-serving caucus chairman in the history of the Indiana General Assembly, having served since 2004. While in office, he created Aaron's Law, signed by Governor Mike Pence in 2015, which expands the use of naloxone to the public. 12:30 - 14:02: Merritt discusses his journey as a lawmaker and why he chose to fight addiction and seek funding for resources to help people. 14:06 - 16:04: Merritt talks about the politicization of addiction, emphasizing a personal, non-punitive approach to addressing the mental health crisis, and discusses the "Kill Heroin" initiative. 16:18 - 17:58: A needle exchange in a small Southern Indiana community caught the attention of Indiana lawmakers. Merritt discusses how laws like needle exchange faced resistance. 18:28 - 19:06: How a needle exchange program positively impacted a community. 19:19 - 21:14: The fear among users when someone dies while using. Good Samaritan laws are in place to help in these situations, showing how stigma is enhanced. 21:50 - 24:22: Laws vs. empathy. There is an ongoing debate among lawmakers regarding drug-related issues and overdoses, with some favoring legal intervention over treatment while others support immunity for those needing medical attention. 24:33 - 26:30: How perception perpetuates stigma. Addiction affects many people. How can we help people understand that addiction is not a moral dilemma? 26:35 - 28:28: Merritt shares volunteer stories and real-life experiences of how addiction impacts communities and how untreated addiction worsens over time. 28:40 - 30:57: Society still struggles to accept addiction as a disease. Despite this, there is progress, with a growing acceptance and hope for those affected by addiction. 30:41 - 32:15: Jim Merritt is working on some amazing projects. Check out where you can find his work! Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast! Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7)

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss what boundaries look like early in recovery and how setting healthy boundaries can impact relationships. Whether you, as the caregiver, are setting a boundary or your recovering loved one is establishing one, it's important to teach people how to treat you. Boundaries can be tough because poor communication can lead to setbacks. Matt and Ryan cover five key points: Who’s setting the boundary? How to say no? Seeking support when boundaries are unclear. And making sure there's time for self-care. Time Stamps and Discussions: 3:35 - 5:00: Boundaries we set in recovery, whether we're addicts or alcoholics, are meant to protect our sobriety. 5:18 - 6:16: Teach people how to treat you. Your recovering loved one is changing. How to spot those positive changes. 6:39 - 7:36: Ryan shares a story of returning to his old neighborhood to establish new boundaries. 7:40 - 14:46: Say no and stick to it. We are all human, and when you say no, mean it. 18:00 - 19:00: Caregivers should seek support because addiction often expresses itself in isolation. Addicts may find solace in recovery meetings, and caregivers should do the same. 19:34 - 20:39: Self-care is huge. The guys provide examples of why self-care is critical for both the caregiver and the addict. 20:04: Recap and closing thoughts. Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast! Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7)

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick share their overdose experiences to help identify when someone may need critical help. Due to the rise of fentanyl, this discussion is more important than ever. Alcohol can also cause overdose, known as alcohol poisoning. Joining The Show:  Justin Phillips, MA Founder and Executive Director of Overdose Lifeline, Inc. Created the organization after her 20-year-old son died from heroin use. Holds Master's degrees in Clinical Addiction Counseling, Philanthropic Studies, and Non-Profit Management. Certified in the Grief Recovery Method®. Honored as a White House Champion of Change for Advocacy, Prevention, and Treatment. Timestamps and Discussions 3:46 - 5:49: Identifying different kinds of overdoses. 5:51 - 7:03: Matt talks about overdosing on oxycontin. 7:09 - 7:52: Ryan recalls a seizure brought on by meth. 15:30 - 16:02: Introduction to Justin Phillips. 16:08 - 16:48: Phillips discusses why she started Overdose Lifeline. 16:51 - 17:21: How to tell someone is overdosing. 17:54 - 18:50: When to call 911 if you suspect an overdose. Some states have Good Samaritan laws requiring you to call emergency services. 19:01 - 20:00: Phillips talks about carrying and administering Narcan. 21:11 - 22:00: Narcan is legal in Indiana, and organizations like Overdose Lifeline are making it accessible to anyone who needs it. 23:38 - 24:42: Phillips emphasizes the need for communication and reflects on what she would do differently if her son were alive and using Resources:  You can find us on X and Instagram: @sobriety_pod. Supporting Sobriety is also available on major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast! Guest: Substance Use Disorder Help and Prevention - Overdose Lifeline Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7)

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss their daily commitment to sobriety through "living amends." They talk about how, early in recovery, addicts often try to recover what they've lost and may try to make amends with their caregivers, which can have a big impact on relationships. The guys share their own experiences, giving practical insights into how making amends works and how it affects caregivers. Timestamps and Discussions: 3:33 - 4:06 Understanding Personal Challenges and Responsibility Matt and Ryan talk about personal challenges that contribute to addiction and stress the importance of taking responsibility in recovery. 4:26 - 5:18 Rebuilding Trust and Personal Decisions They discuss how addicts can rebuild trust and the critical role of personal decisions in this process. 5:20 - 7:09 Taking Ownership and Finding Support Emphasizing the need for addicts to take ownership of their actions and the supportive role of recovery programs in maintaining sobriety. 7:21 - 7:34 Navigating Relationships and Power Dynamics Addressing the complexities of power dynamics in relationships affected by addiction. 7:36 - Consistency in Actions: Living Amends Highlighting the importance for addicts to align their actions with their words and how practicing "living amends" can lead to positive changes in recovery. 9:51 - 11:39 The Ongoing Journey of Making Amends Explaining the ongoing process of making amends in recovery, acknowledging the challenges involved, and its essential role in achieving long-term sobriety. Resources:  Social Media: Instagram @sobriety_pod Find "Supporting Sobriety" on major podcast providers like Spotify or Apple—please like, subscribe, and rate. Al-Anon AA Meetings Virtual NA Meetings Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7)

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick are making living amends by working on their recovery every day. Whether you're new to recovery or have been at it for a while, the amends process can be challenging. In twelve-step recovery programs, two steps are dedicated to this process: first, you must become willing to make amends and then make them. Sometimes, our amends are met with resistance, and the people we care about might reject our attempts. In those moments, focusing even more on our recovery is essential. Today's Guest: Brittany Hill is the Clinical Director at The Recovery Village in Indianapolis. She specializes in art therapy and has many years of experience in clinical leadership. Brittany has managed three outpatient facilities in rural areas for a non-profit mental health organization. She has worked with children, parents, foster and adoptive families, and individuals in recovery. Brittany is passionate about creating and leading engaging group sessions for both patients and staff. Discussions and Timestamps:  13:21 - 13:33 - Introduction to Brittany Hill 13:45 - 14:05 - The process of forgiving can be painful and complex. Caregivers need to acknowledge their feelings, which is an important first step. 14:07 - 15:12 - Dealing with the onset of emotions that come with the initial forgiveness process. This may be the most challenging time in your loved one's recovery. 15:14 - 16:22 - Recovering addicts want immediate forgiveness, but this doesn't happen. Compassion and patience are important for caregivers, especially when repeated betrayals occur. 16:29 - 18:43 - Ryan shares a friend's story about wanting to be forgiven. Brittany offers suggestions for dealing with setbacks when forgiveness is not accepted. Professional help is strongly recommended. The caregiver needs to acknowledge their loved one’s recovery. 18:55 - 20:13 - For caregivers willing to forgive but facing resistance from other family members who are skeptical about the addict’s recovery or intentions, it's important to work on yourself behind the scenes, such as seeing a therapist, to gain the tools needed to handle such situations. 20:30 - 21:48 - Recovery is a journey that sometimes includes relapses. Your loved one may try their hardest to recover but then experience a setback. How will this affect you? What does this mean for their recovery? Does their relapse signal that you can't trust them? 22:00 - 23:00 - Brittany Hill offers a message of hope. Resources:  Social Media: Instagram @sobriety_pod Find "Supporting Sobriety" on major podcast providers like Spotify or Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate. Al-Anon AA Meetings Virtual NA Meetings Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7) Guest Info:  You can learn more about the Recovery Village in Indianapolis at therecoveryvillage.com/locations/indianapolis.

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick understand that recovery brings hope. Recovery has given them lives better than they ever dreamed of. In this episode, they explore different aspects of the recovery process: effective communication, allowing space for personal growth, supporting the lives of those in recovery, and practicing self-care. Today's Guest: A very hopeful conversation comes your way via a very inspirational and talented man who has used the power of music to bring him out of the dark depression of alcoholism. Joining us is Tom Cridland of Tom's Elton Tribute. When on stage, Tom is a doppelganger of Elton John in voice and appearance. Timestamps & Discussions: 16:38 - 17:06 Matt and Ryan introduce Tom Cridland and his tribute act to Elton John. 17:17 - 18:06 Tom discusses his journey in recovery and how music has influenced his path to sobriety. 18:13 - 19:53 Tom recounts a pivotal moment in his life when he confronted his alcoholism head-on, marking a significant turning point in his recovery. 19:58 - 21:46 Tom shares a harrowing story about his time at boarding school and a terrible binge he was on, offering a glimpse into the depths of his struggle with addiction. 21:48 - 22:50 Tom talks about the most important person in his life—his wife—who played a pivotal role in saving him from his addiction and supporting his recovery journey. 24:14 - 26:26 Tom describes the amends process and how his wife views his recovery, highlighting the importance of making amends in the recovery process. 26:35 - 28:09 Tom elaborates on music's role in maintaining his sobriety, emphasizing how it continues to be a source of strength and inspiration for him. 28:13 - 29:15 Tom shares his strategies for staying motivated in his recovery, underscoring the importance of having a purpose and staying committed to personal growth. 29:42 - 30:23 Tom talks about an upcoming big show in Scranton, Pennsylvania, giving listeners a glimpse into his future endeavors and ongoing journey in music and recovery. Resources Social Media: Follow us on Instagram and Twitter: @sobriety_pod. You can find our podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever else you get your podcasts. Please like, subscribe, and rate us! Support Resources: Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings Virtual NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (available 24/7)

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss detoxing your body, which is the first tangible step in recovery, but it should always be done professionally. The guys answer important questions like, what does it feel like? Do you shake uncontrollably? Do you go into life-threatening delirium tremens (DTs), including audio and visual hallucinations? Are you scared or ashamed of entering the detoxification center? What happens after you're done? Is it, “Hey, I’m dried out, all is great,” or is there something more? In Supporting Sobriety’s Extended Playlist #2, Matt and Ryan share their own detox experiences, recalling all of the good about removing the “drugs of choice” from their systems and speaking on the not-so-good aspects of the process. Regardless, the experience varies from patient to patient, and the magic of recovery is quick to follow if the right choices are made. Again, please do it professionally. Let people keep you safe. (Supporting Sobriety's Extended Playlists is slightly different from normal shows. In these EPs, Matt and Ryan talk more about themselves and their recovery experiences while remembering that the podcast is always about you, the caregiver. Thank you for listening. You’re so loved.)

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick share their personal experiences and emotions as they both prepare to celebrate recovery milestones in the next two months. They reflect on the significance of their upcoming sober birthdays and how these celebrations motivate them to continue their journey. Introduction with Matt and Ryan [00:00 - 03:00] Matt and Ryan introduce the concept of a sober birthday and set the stage for the discussion. Significance of a Sober Birthday [03:01 - 08:30] Explanation of what a sober birthday is. Discussion on how it shows progress boosts self-esteem and motivates continued sobriety. Importance of identifying as a RECOVERING addict or alcoholic. Personal Reflections on Upcoming Sober Birthdays [08:31 - 13:45] Comparing sober birthdays to traditional birthdays and their emotional impact. How to Celebrate a Sober Birthday [13:46 - 19:36] Tips for planning the celebration, including choosing the right guest list.

 Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick delve into why summer parties can be particularly challenging for those recovering from substance abuse. These gatherings often feature a lot of alcohol and sometimes drugs, which can trigger memories of past substance use for your loved one. They discuss the pressure that addicts might feel to either drink to fit in or risk feeling left out if they don’t. It’s a delicate balance. Matt and Ryan highlight four key points: Check Your Guest List: Be mindful of who you invite to create a supportive environment. Communication is Key: Openly discuss plans and concerns with your loved one. Be Supportive: Offer encouragement and understanding throughout the event. Respect Boundaries: Invite your loved one, but respect their decision if they choose not to attend. If your loved one needs a meeting or seems out of place during the party, understand that they might feel overwhelmed. Knowing these factors can help create a more comfortable and inclusive atmosphere. Timestamps 4:12 - 6:55 | Check Your Guest List As the caregiver, you have some influence over how things go. Remember, you don't need to walk on eggshells around our feelings and recovery. Our recovery is ultimately our responsibility. 6:56 - 9:50 | Communication is Key Communication is crucial. Have an open and honest conversation with your loved one. Ask them what they need from you to feel safe and supported. 9:53 - 13:09 | Be Supportive If your loved one needs a meeting or seems out of place at parties, understand that they might feel overwhelmed. We know it's a lot to ask, but you play a crucial role in creating a supportive environment. 13:08 - 15:59 | It’s Up to Us to Change Caregivers may expect immediate results, but recovery takes time. It’s up to the addict to change their life. Be patient; recovery takes time and is full of ups and downs. Resources Social Media: Follow us on X/Insta: @sobriety_pod Podcasts: Listen and subscribe on Spotify, Apple. Please like, subscribe, and rate. Meetings: Al-Anon: Al-Anon.org AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings NA Meetings (Virtual): virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7)

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick delve into the challenges that summer parties pose for those in recovery. These gatherings often feature alcohol and sometimes drugs, which can evoke memories of past substance use for your recovering loved one. The hosts explore the pressures to conform and the feelings of exclusion that can arise when someone abstains from drinking in a social setting. Striking the right balance is crucial.  Discussions and Timestamps: 5:46 - 7:41 - The guys discuss the importance of checking your guest list. If a family member is still drinking and might be disrespectful, leaving them off the guest list is best to avoid conflict. As the host, you have control over these situations. 7:51 - 12:20 -  Communication is so important. Have an open and honest conversation with your loved one. Ask them what they need from you to feel safe and supported. Sometimes, knowing you know their struggles can be a huge comfort. 12:20 16:28  - Be supportive. If your loved one feels out of place or needs a meeting during the party, they might feel overwhelmed. We know it's a lot to ask, but your support is crucial in creating a supportive environment. 17:00 - 20:04 -  Respect your loved ones' boundaries at the party, but always respect their boundaries. Including them shows they are valued, but be mindful of their comfort levels and personal limits regarding social situations and potential triggers. Resources:  Social  X/Insta: @sobriety_pod. Podcasts: Spotify, Apple,  Please like, subscribe, and rate Meetings: Al-Anon.org aa.intergroup.org/meetings, Meetings (virtual-na.org) Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7)

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss the stress addiction places on families, sharing their personal battles and recovery experiences while offering tips for caregivers on self-care, recognizing addiction signs, and seeking support. Joining the Show: Captain Brandon Dreiman Background: Captain with 22 years at the Indianapolis Fire Department. Roles: Coordinator of Firefighter Wellness & Support, IAFF Peer Support & Resilience Master Instructor, CBT-I clinician, Certified Sleep Science Coach, Certified Addiction Peer Recovery Coach, and yoga teacher. Founder of Naptown Yogawalla. Key Discussions and Timestamps: 10:40 - 11:18 | Introduction to Captain Dreiman Introducing Dreiman and his impressive background and achievements. 11:19 - 14:33 | Firefighter Wellness Program Overview: This peer support program offers various firefighter services, focusing on intervention and prevention. Proactive Approach: The program aims to address issues before they become serious. 15:03 - 17:25 | Dreiman’s Path to Sobriety Personal Story: Dreiman talks about a turning point 12 years ago when a random drug and alcohol test led him to choose sobriety. Lesson: The importance of giving back to maintain personal recovery. 17:39 - 20:16 | Recognizing Signs of Addiction Advice for Caregivers: Look for behavior changes and patterns that might indicate addiction. Communication Tips: Avoid using “I” statements instead of “you” statements to make the person feel attacked. 21:10 - 23:37 | Family and Recovery Impact on Families: Addiction affects the whole family, but recovery can bring everyone together. Positive Outcomes: Dreiman shares stories of successful recoveries and the comprehensive support his program offers, including counseling and relapse prevention. 24:15 - 27:00 | Importance of Communication and Dealing with Anger Key Insights: Honest conversations and addressing anger are crucial in dealing with addiction. Evaluating Decisions: It's important to weigh the pros and cons of addiction-related actions. 27:05 - 29:44 | Warning Signs and Support Programs Identifying Issues: Discussing signs that might indicate a loved one is struggling with addiction. Finding Help: Highlighting effective programs and resources available for support. Resources:  Social  X/Insta: @sobriety_pod. Podcasts: Spotify, Apple,  Please like, subscribe, and rate Mettings: Al-Anon.org aa.intergroup.org/meetings, Meetings (virtual-na.org) Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7)

Denial offers strong opposition to the caregiver trying to save the life of their suffering addict or alcoholic, and the situation can seem impossible. Can you help when they refuse to say, “I’m an alcoholic?” Can they be treated without admitting, “yes, I’m an addict?” Are they using more excessively? Do they say, “That’s just who I am,” while nursing hangover after hangover? Do they refute your concerns with “I can stop anytime I want,” even though they don’t? What about you, caregiver? Is it hard to believe your loved one is truly an addict or alcoholic? In this episode, Supporting Sobriety co-hosts Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick speak with Amber Hollingsworth, who calls on her decades of experience working with caregiving families to answer the demanding questions about denial in recovery. If you believe your child, sibling, parent, or S/O is stricken with the disease of addiction, please listen. Amber has lived addiction her whole life, growing up in an addicted family and as a professional caregiver for decades. She also has a YouTube channel called Put the Shovel Down, which hits the disease of addiction from all sides. Thank you for listening. Please like, subscribe, and rate. Resources: Join the Supporting Sobriety community @sobriety_pod on X or Instagram.   Al-Anon.org aa.intergroup.org/meetings, Meetings (virtual-na.org) Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7)

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick delve into the delicate balance between addicts responsibly using prescription drugs and the steps caretakers can take to prevent relapse when their loved ones are prescribed medication. Drawing from their own experiences with medications as barriers to recovery, Matt and Ryan emphasize the importance of communication between caregivers and addicts, especially when legal prescriptions are necessary. They highlight the significance of honesty and accountability in preventing relapse and easing the pressure on loved ones. Joining The Show: Dr. Michael LaRosa from the Salvation Army joins the discussion. With his extensive experience as the clinical director for Harbor Light in Indianapolis, Dr. LaRosa offers valuable insights into helping individuals enter recovery. Timestamps and Discussions: 15:40 - 16:00 - Introduction to Dr. LaRosa:  16:08 - 17:03 - Should Addicts Take Prescribed Opiates?  Dr. LaRosa weighs in on the complexities of addicts taking medications that could potentially lead to relapse. 17:18 - 19:55 - Recovery as a Collaborative Process:  Dr. LaRosa emphasizes the importance of collaboration between doctors and addicts in moving forward with recovery. 20:05 - 21:47 - Communicating with Caretakers:  The importance of open communication and teamwork between addicts and caretakers in managing medication and preventing relapse is discussed. 22:15 - 23:49 - Managing Refills and Alternative Solutions:  Dr. LaRosa shares his approach to addressing refills and suggests healthy alternatives to medication. 24:40 - 26:00 - Over-the-Counter Medications and Narcotics:  The potential risks associated with over-the-counter medications and the importance of moderation are highlighted. 26:16 - 28:32 - Recognizing Indicators of Relapse:  The signs indicating a potential relapse and the role of communication and pain in motivating recovery are explored. 28:45 - 30:02 - Addressing the Crisis:  Dr. LaRosa discusses the challenges of the fentanyl crisis and the need for vigilance in combating addiction. 30:15 - 31:25 - The Journey of Recovery:  The importance of a God-centered attitude and giving back in the recovery journey is emphasized. Resources:  Social  X/Insta: @sobriety_pod, like us and subscribe.  Al-Anon.org aa.intergroup.org/meetings, Meetings (virtual-na.org) Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7) Like us and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick explore how regular exercise affects individuals caring for loved ones grappling with addiction. The perks they discussed include feeling less stressed, dealing with problems better, and having a good way to let off steam. Matt talks about his path to fitness and how it changed him during three years of getting better. Ryan talks about how going for runs has helped him in his recovery journey. Joining The Show: Guest: Leisa Hart from leisahart.com, known for her role in Warner Brothers' Buns of Steel fitness. Leisa's lifestyle coach, workout guru, and motivational speaker background is highlighted. Notable achievements: Over $1 billion in sales and 6 million units sold. Timestamps and Discussions: 11:49 - 12:09: Introduction to Leisa's Expertise Leisa's background and expertise were unveiled. 12:10 - 14:17: Navigating Addiction: Leisa's Personal Journey Insights into Leisa's family struggles with addiction and its impact on her fitness path. 16:10 - 18:30: Prioritizing Self-Care: The Vitality of Physical Activity Leisa underscores self-care's significance for caregivers and advocates staying active amidst adversity. 18:45 - 23:01: Empowering Your Fitness Journey: Taking the First Steps Leisa motivates listeners to embark on their fitness voyage, swapping "dope for dopamine." 23:53 - 25:59: Exercise as Therapy: Unveiling Mental Health Benefits Leisa explores the profound psychological connections between exercise and mental well-being, offering caregiver strategies. 26:30 - 27:38: Unlocking Wellness: The Essential Role of Sleep Leisa stresses the criticality of quality sleep for holistic health. 27:48 - 29:15: Farewell Reflections: Embracing Fitness and Resources Leisa concludes with a call to action, urging listeners to initiate simple fitness routines and utilize available support. Resources:  Leisa Hart Website: LeisaHart.com Matt Social: X/Insta Like us and subscribe. Ryan Al-Anon AA Meetings (Virtual Meetings: virtual-na.org) Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7) Like us and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick dive into one of the toughest situations families face when dealing with addiction: what to do when a loved one gets arrested. They share their own experiences and offer hope for those navigating the legal system amidst addiction struggles. Joining the Show: Guest: Judge Brandi Foster Kirkendall, Johnson County, Indiana. Judge Brandi, a respected figure in the legal community, oversees treatment courts in Johnson County. She shares insights into navigating the legal process when a loved one faces addiction-related legal issues. Timestamps and Discussions:  13:11 - 15:18 - Introduction to Judge Brandi Judge Brandi explains what happens after an arrest, emphasizing the importance of understanding probable cause and the seriousness of the offense. 15:34 - 17:45 - Is your loved one eligible for a lighter sentence? Judge Brandi discusses the shift towards treatment-focused approaches and illuminates Johnson County's treatment courts and eligibility criteria. 18:00 - 21:09 - Why so many treatment courts? Judge Brandi highlights the increasing demand for treatment courts and the community's growing awareness of their benefits. 22:13 - 23:12 - Judge Brandi talks about judging a defendant's regret Emphasizing the significance of actions over words, Judge Brandi discusses her approach to assessing a defendant's commitment to change. 23:33 - 26:15 - Brandi sometimes talks to loved ones. Judge Brandi recognizes the vital role of family support and discusses the importance of involving loved ones in treatment court programs. 27:04 - 28:00 - There is a path to recovery if the addict wants it. Judge Brandi underscores the importance of willingness to achieve recovery and evaluates progress based on tangible results. 28:30 - 32:55 - How long does it take to resolve court cases? Judge Brandi provides insights into the timeline of resolving court cases and the factors influencing case duration. Resources:  Matt: Social  X/Insta: @sobriety_pod, like us and subscribe. Ryan: aa.intergroup.org/meetings, Meetings (virtual-na.org) Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7) Al-Anon.org Like us and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick reflect on their milestones and discuss their recovery journey. The guys acknowledge the well-documented ups and downs of recovery, especially for those supporting loved ones through it.  Joining the Show Kelly Pope is a dedicated mother who has stayed steadfast in her support for her son's journey toward recovery. Despite numerous challenges, Kelly's unwavering commitment has been a shining light of hope for her son, providing strength and encouragement during difficult times. Time Stamps and Discussions: 14:24 - 14:37 - Introduction to Kelly Pope Introducing Kelly Pope and her role in her son's recovery journey. 14:46 - 18:09 - Kelly's son's lowest point Kelly recounts her son's lowest point in his struggle with addiction. Discusses her trust in treatment experts and her son's responsibility for his recovery. She shares the emotional highs and lows she experienced during this time. 18:42 - 22:11 - Impact of relapse on the family Describes the toll of relapse on a family, especially in the case of Kelly's son, who is one of four siblings. Despite setbacks, Kelly never lost faith and discusses the physical challenges she endured. She mentions having her grandchildren over and views them as a blessing.  21:56 - 24:29 - Rebuilding trust Emphasizes the importance of rebuilding trust gradually. She shares her experience of not giving her son money but supporting him in other ways. Talks about the process of earning back trust through communication and action steps. 25:02 - 26:56 - Lifestyle changes Discusses the need for lifestyle adjustments, such as changing locks and gradually reintroducing privileges. She shared a moment of joy when her son felt like himself again during a fishing trip. 27:06 - 28:21 - Navigating emotional challenges Reflects on navigating emotional ups and downs without seeking professional help. Discusses relying on prayer and support from friends while maintaining perseverance. 30:15 - Kelly's message of hope It ends with Kelly's heartfelt message of love and hopes for her son's recovery. Resources:  Ryan: aa.intergroup.org/meetings, Meetings (virtual-na.org) Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7) Al-Anon.org Like us and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick reflect on the guilt and shame of their loved ones during active addiction. The benefits of attending support groups like Al-Anon discussed community, mental health prioritization, and acceptance of the disease. Recovery communities are essential healing components, offering support and understanding. Guest: Terri Stacey, Hall-of-Fame Broadcaster, wife of a recovering alcoholic, shares her story. Time Stamps and Discussions: 12:52 - 13:03 - Introduction to Teri Stacey 13:05 - 14:03 - Unfamiliarity with Alcoholism Terri's background: unfamiliar with alcoholism, grew up in Knightstown, Indiana. Early signs of her husband's alcoholism are evident despite her family's abstention from alcohol.  14:15 - 15:15 - Early Signs of Alcoholism Terri recalls early signs of her husband's drinking habits, emotional toll evident. 15:27 - 15:45 - Growing Concerns Growing concerns about her husband's frequent visits to the bar. 16:07 - 18:02 - Denial and Escape Terri's denial about her husband's drinking  18:24 - 18:50 -  Work as Refuge Work as an escape from her tumultuous personal life. 19:14 - 20:31 - Acknowledgment and Emotional Journey Husband's acknowledgment of his drinking problem Terri's emotional journey alongside him. 20:43 - 22:15 - Lack of Mental Health Awareness Lack of mental health awareness and repeated attempts at recovery for her husband. 23:17 - 24:00 - Delay in Seeking Support Delay in attending Al-Anon meetings, focusing on her husband's recovery process. 24:08 - 25:18 - Realization and Public Revelation Terri's realization of shared experiences at her first Al-Anon meeting. 25:32 - 26:34 - Public revelation of her struggles through a magazine article. Acknowledgment of personal work required for recovery. Initial anger towards her husband's recovery journey, realization of her journey.

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick delve into the profound realm of spirituality in recovery. They emphasize the importance of finding a higher power in long-term recovery and recognize that spirituality manifests uniquely for each individual. Matt and Ryan share personal insights into understanding spirituality's role in recovery, fostering a supportive environment for spiritual growth, and remaining open-minded to diverse spiritual concepts. Guest: Ervin Lee from Beer to the Bible Podcast Ervin Lee, once entrenched in severe alcoholism despite outward success, found redemption and spiritual awakening through rehab. His journey led him to embrace faith and sobriety, and he is now dedicating himself to guiding others through similar struggles. Ervin emphasizes the transformative power of spirituality, utilizing a "spiritual sobriety kit" comprising exercise, prayer, and biblical reflection. He co-founded Hampton Ministries and offered support and guidance to those seeking sobriety and spiritual wellness. Time Stamps and Discussions: 12:02 - 13:32 -  The First Step in Overcoming Spiritual Hurdles Introduction to Ervin Lee. Discussion on overcoming hurdles when an addict rejects spiritual concepts. Ervin shares a pivotal moment of empathy from a pastor post-treatment, highlighting empathy as the initial step. 13:50 - 15:30 - Addressing Atheism in Addiction Recovery Addressing the challenge of conversing with atheists, particularly addicts, Ervin emphasizes honesty and looking beyond oneself for healing. He underscores the external source of healing. 16:00 - 17:23 - The Crucial Role of the Twelve Steps in Any Addiction Recovery Importance of the twelve steps in recovery, applicable to any addiction. Founders' beliefs and working the steps are deemed crucial for sustainable recovery. 18:04 - 19:25 - Spiritual Work in Recovery Beyond Religious Constructs Delving into inner turmoil and the significance of spiritual work in recovery. Ervin emphasizes the necessity of developing a relationship with a higher power, distinct from religious institutions. 19:56 - 22:00 -  Redefining Spiritual Concepts for Sobriety Reconceptualizing God as a relationship rather than a religious construct, Ervin addresses misconceptions, asserts God is love, and advocates vulnerability in belief. 22:36 - 24:00 - Changing Environments and Honest Conversations: Practical Tips for Recovery Practical tips for altering environments, including nature-based activities and honest conversations with loved ones, to aid recovery. Resources:  Our guest was Ervin Lee of Hampton Ministries; find him on X, @ervinlee09. Instagram and Tik Toc, @frombeertothebible. He’s on YouTube as well. The Gift of Doubting God | Part 3 (youtube.com) Matt: Social  X/Insta: @sobriety_pod, like us and subscribe. Ryan: aa.intergroup.org/meetings, Meetings (virtual-na.org) Suicide Prevention Hotline: (800) 273-8255 (24/7) Al-Anon.org Like us and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss one of the most challenging aspects of dealing with a loved one in active addiction: tough love. Tough love may initially seem harsh, but it can catalyze positive change when executed correctly. Establishing healthy boundaries not only benefits the individual struggling with addiction but also allows caregivers to prioritize their well-being and recovery. Guest: Dr. Vince Callahan Dr. Callahan, from The Florida Institute for Neural Discovery, specializes in understanding the impact of dysfunctional family systems on children's growth and development. With over a decade of research in early life stress and neurological development, Dr. Callahan provides valuable insights into building a tough love strategy. Time Stamps and Discussions: Understanding Tough Love (16:27 - 18:33) Dr. Callahan explains that tough love involves letting the addict hit rock bottom, as it can serve as a wake-up call for change. Tough love is more than just a strategy; it's a process that requires the addict's buy-in for effectiveness. Collaboration and Buy-In (19:06 - 20:11) It's essential for the addict to willingly participate in the tough love plan for it to be successful. Tough love serves as motivation for addicts to take responsibility for their actions and seek help. Tailoring Tough Love (20:35 - 21:15) Each situation requires a customized approach to tough love, considering the unique circumstances and dynamics. Collaboration between the addict and their loved ones is crucial for progress and recovery. Seeking Professional Help (21:27 - 22:17) If tough love alone isn't effective, it's important to encourage the loved one to seek professional assistance. Understanding the underlying reasons for addiction is essential for addressing the root causes rather than just treating symptoms. Implementing a Comprehensive Plan (23:04 - 25:40) Understanding family systems and addressing trauma or learned behaviors is fundamental to the healing process. Teamwork and commitment are vital for sticking to a recovery plan, whether it involves attending meetings, practicing abstinence, or seeking therapy. Connect with Dr. Vince Callahan: Website: Florida Institute for Neural Discovery - find-fl.com Twitter: @drvincecallahan Promote Our Social: Matt: Follow us on Instagram @sobriety_pod. Remember to like and subscribe! Ryan: For AA meetings, visit aa.intergroup.org/meetings. Also, check out virtual NA meetings at virtual-na.org. If you or someone you know needs immediate support, please call the Suicide Prevention Hotline at (800) 273-8255. It's available 24/7. Visit Al-Anon.org for additional resources and support. Like and subscribe to our podcast on your preferred platform for more episodes.

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss the interplay between depression and addiction. Depression exacerbates addiction, and untreated depression can lead to relapse. Importance of addressing mental health, avoiding substance use for coping, and building support networks. Today's Guest: Marcus Watts, Founder of Alone is a Lie, shares his journey battling depression and alcohol addiction. Despite personal losses, Marcus is a beacon of change in his community. Marcus emphasizes the significance of a strong recovery program. Timestamps with Discussions: 13:17 - 13:25 Introduction to Marcus Watts Marcus introduces himself and his struggles with depression and alcoholism. 13:36 - 15:39 The Devastation of Losing People Close to Him Marcus recounts the profound impact of losing five significant individuals in less than two years. Despite having a small circle, the losses were deeply impactful. 15:40 - 16:34 When He Started Drinking Marcus shares how his alcohol struggles began during social gatherings and escalated with older peers. 16:54 - 18:24 The Work Never Stops, and Recovery is a Journey Even in sobriety, Marcus battles with mental health issues. Recognizing the ongoing work required in recovery, Marcus marks September 4, 2017, as his sober date. 18:39 - 19:49 The Turning Point Marcus’s turning point came when confronted by the mother of his children about his behavior in bars. Determined to change, Marcus embarked on his recovery journey shortly after. 20:15 - 22:14 The Support System is Strong Marcus received encouragement from friends and family upon publicly committing to recovery. Coach Lloyd and his supportive family played pivotal roles in Marcus's journey. 22:28 - 24:48 The Three Signs Marcus Knew He Was Struggling with Depression Marcus identifies key signs of his depression, including reliance on alcohol for coping.  Resources:  Marcus Watts can be found on Instagram with the username @alone_isalie. Matt invites you to follow Social X on Instagram with the handle @sobriety_pod and encourages likes and subscriptions. Ryan shares resources for meetings at aa.intergroup.org/meetings and virtual-na.org, along with the Suicide Prevention Hotline at (800) 273-8255, available 24/7. Additionally, he suggests visiting Al-Anon.org.

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick share personal experiences with potent drugs and the importance of access to Narcan in emergencies. Today's Guest:  Joining the Supporting Sobriety Podcast is Bree Baldwin from Overdose Lifeline (overdoselifeline.org), discussing harm reduction efforts and Narcan's role in saving lives. Discussion Points with Timestamps: 4:09 - 5:05: Understanding Narcan Ryan explains that Narcan is an opiate-reversing drug, blocking opiate receptors to interrupt the effects of ingested drugs.  Administering Narcan is a challenging experience for the user. 5:30 - 6:33: Narcan as a Miracle Drug Matt describes Narcan as a miracle drug, emphasizing that no drug user desires to receive it. 8:00 - 13:26: Narcan in Action Matt and Ryan analyze a video demonstrating deputies saving a man's life with Narcan, highlighting the calm and confident response of first responders. 15:47 - 15:58: Introduction to Bree Baldwin 16:15 - 17:23: Basics of Narcan Baldwin explains what Narcan is, its importance, and how it's administered to patients. 17:37 - 18:40: Patient Response to Narcan Baldwin discusses how patients typically respond to Narcan within 2-3 minutes and the potential need for additional doses. 19:00 - 20:13: Providing Hope through Overdose Lifeline Overdose Lifeline offers education, resources, and advocacy to support families affected by substance use disorder. 20:45 - 21:05: Erasing Stigma Around Narcan Baldwin highlights the challenge of erasing stigma and educating people about the helpfulness of Narcan. 21:10 - 22:00: Recognizing Overdose Signs Signs and symptoms of overdose vary but are recognizable, enabling prompt Narcan administration to save lives potentially. .22:30 - 23:13: Limitations and Emerging Drugs Baldwin discusses emerging drugs that Narcan may not work for and emphasizes the importance of rescue breathing in saving lives. 26:35: Narcan and Harm Reduction Baldwin stresses Narcan's role in harm reduction and addressing the disease of addiction. Resources: Visit Overdose Lifeline's website, overdoselifeline.org, or follow @overdoselifelin on social media. Please find us on social media at @sobriety_pod on X and Insta. Remember to like and subscribe. Access virtual meetings at aa.intergroup.org/meetings or visit virtual-na.org. For immediate support, call the Suicide Prevention Hotline at (800) 273-8255, available 24/7. Explore support resources at Al-Anon.org. Like and subscribe to our podcast on your preferred platform.

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick share their personal experiences with substance use during their teenage years. They share insights into recognizing signs that your teenager might be using drugs. They are joined by guest April Rhodes, a mother who tragically lost her son to fentanyl. Matt and Ryan highlight the familiar feeling among teenagers who use drugs of not fitting in with their peers. They share their own experiences of seeking acceptance through substance use. They discuss how teenagers may gravitate towards new friends who are also using drugs, leading to a shift in social circles. April shares her son Max's journey of trading athletic friends for those involved in substance use. Drawing from personal experiences, Matt and Ryan discuss the legal troubles that often accompany drug use among teenagers. They discuss the importance of recognizing legal issues as a potential indicator of substance abuse. Timestamps with Discussions: 16:15 - 16:59 Introduction:  April Rhodes joins the conversation, bringing her firsthand experience of losing her son to a fentanyl overdose. 17:14 - 17:21  Emotional Impact Ryan shares his emotional response to having a mother discuss the loss of her son, reflecting on the profound impact of April's story. 17:21 - 18:31  Coping with Loss April opens up about her grief journey and her determination to advocate for awareness and support for parents facing similar tragedies. She highlights the pain of losing a child to a drug overdose and her resolve to take action. 18:48 - 21:15  Advocacy Efforts  April discusses her involvement with organizations like "Winning the Fight" and her decision to dedicate herself full-time to raising awareness about substance abuse and its consequences. 21:25 - 23:31 Max's Story April shares intimate details about her son Max's upbringing, revealing his struggles with abandonment issues and his eventual descent into drug addiction. 23:54 - 27:00 Recognizing the Signs  April recounts the pivotal moments when she realized Max had a drug problem, including changes in his behavior, social circle, and legal issues. She reflects on the challenges of confronting a loved one's addiction. 27:17 - 28:10  Heartbreaking Moments April recounts the harrowing experience of witnessing Max's suffering during detox and her confrontation with his drug dealer, underscoring the devastating impact of addiction on families. 29:02 - 31:56 Lessons Learned  April reflects on the signs she missed and the importance of self-care in coping with the trauma of losing a child to addiction. She emphasizes the need for parents to prioritize their well-being while supporting their loved ones through recovery. Resources:  Social Media: Instagram / Twitter @sobriety_pod AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings Virtual NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: 800-273-8255 (Available 24/7) Al-Anon Support: Al-Anon.org Mentioned by April:  wtf-winningthefight.org

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick delve into the pervasive stigma surrounding addiction, sharing personal anecdotes that highlight its impact. They're joined by Lindsey Bland, Manager at Eskenazi Mental Health Center Adult Addiction, who offers professional insights into the harmful effects of addiction stigma and how it hinders individuals from seeking help. Main Discussion Points: 1) Recognizing the Changing Discourse Around Addiction Ryan recalls the stigma attached to addiction during the crack epidemic in the 1980s and how his upbringing shaped his understanding. Matt reflects on a conversation from his youth and acknowledges the changing discourse around addiction, crediting those in long-term recovery for erasing stigmas. 2) Choosing Language More Thoughtfully The hosts discuss the impact of different words and labels associated with addiction, sharing personal experiences of hurtful language. Ryan and Matt dissect the evolution of their understanding of stigmatizing words and their effects on individuals in recovery. 3) Embracing a Fresh Perspective Lindsey Bland highlights how addiction manifests similarly regardless of the substance involved and breaks down common misconceptions surrounding addicts and their behaviors. She emphasizes the prevalence of addiction across demographics and urges listeners not to label individuals based on their disease. Timestamps and Discussions: 2:56 - 4:41: Ryan and Matt reflect on societal perceptions of addiction, drawing from personal experiences. They discuss the transformative role of long-term recovery in reshaping attitudes and reducing stigma. 4:42 - 6:55: Matt shares a childhood experience where he questioned addiction. The hosts explore the impact of social media on dispelling stigmas and highlight the universality of addiction's impact across demographics. 7:18 - 17:46: Ryan shares a poignant experience of being stigmatized by a former partner. This leads to a discussion on the profound impact of language and its evolving meanings in shaping perceptions of addiction. 21:17 - 21:52: Lindsey Bland discusses the neurological similarities between alcoholism and addiction. She dismantles common misconceptions about addicts and their behaviors, emphasizing the need for empathy and understanding. 22:53 - 28:19: Bland addresses harmful labels attached to addicts and emphasizes the importance of recognizing addiction as a widespread issue without stigmatizing individuals. She urges listeners to adopt a compassionate approach towards those struggling with addiction. Closing Remarks: Matt and Ryan share resources for support, including their social media handles and organizations like Al-Anon and Eskenazi Mental Health Center. They also provide the Suicide Prevention Hotline number: (800) 273-8255 (24/7). Don't forget to like and subscribe to the podcast on your preferred platform! Hosts' Social Media: Matt: Social X/Insta: @sobriety_cast Ryan: aa.intergroup.org/meetings (Meetings - virtual-na.org) Resources Mentioned: Al-Anon.org Eskenazi Mental Health Center: www.eskenazihealth.edu/mental-health

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick discuss how stigmas exacerbate addiction. Ryan recounts being labeled a "crackhead," which deterred him from seeking help, while Matt remembers being diagnosed as an alcoholic in therapy, facing societal obstacles to getting assistance. They explore prevalent stigmas, such as addiction being a choice, substance quantity defining addiction, the misconception that alcoholics are safer, the perception of addicts as helpless, and how support from loved ones can trigger relapse. Timestamps with Discussions: 3:35 -5:41: Recognizing Addiction as a Disease Ryan reflects on society's misconception that addiction is a choice, emphasizing his journey with addiction and the progression of the disease. He shares his first encounter with methamphetamine. 6:02 - 7:30: Accepting Alcoholism as a Disease Matt recalls his initial struggle to accept alcoholism as a disease, highlighting the importance of acknowledging one's condition to facilitate recovery. 8:15 -11:07: Dispelling Stereotypes Ryan challenges stereotypes surrounding addiction severity, sharing anecdotes about individuals with different substance use histories. He emphasizes that behavior, not solely substance quantity, indicates addiction severity. 11:23 - 12:30: Behavior as a Red Flag Matt discusses the significance of observing behavioral changes in loved ones to identify addiction issues, emphasizing that addiction manifests differently in individuals. 13:21 - 15:11: The Impact of Different Substances Matt shares his experience with opiates and the varying effects of different substances on addiction expression, emphasizing that addiction extends beyond substance use. 16:35 - 18:16: Diverse Faces of Addiction Ryan challenges societal perceptions of addiction, highlighting that addiction affects individuals from all walks of life, debunking stereotypes associated with addiction. 18:49 - 19:57: Addressing Stigma Within Support Groups Matt recounts encountering stigma within support groups, emphasizing the need for humility and mutual support in recovery communities. 24:12 -24:34: Navigating Emotions and Expectations Ryan discusses the emotional journey for both individuals with addiction and their loved ones, emphasizing the importance of education and managing expectations in supporting recovery. 29:12 -30:27: Closing Thoughts on Recovery Responsibility Matt reflects on personal mentorship in recovery, highlighting the individual's responsibility for their journey and the fallacy of blaming others for relapse. Resources:  Social Media: Instagram / Twitter @sobriety_pod AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings Virtual NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: 800-273-8255 (Available 24/7) Al-Anon Support: Al-Anon.org

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick share stories about enablers in their lives. Specifically, they discuss the people who helped them buy drugs and alcohol and those who perpetuated their addictive patterns. They emphasize the importance of showing unconditional love and being present for your loved ones as they battle with addiction. They also stress the significance of not advancing addiction by avoiding judging or stereotyping people who are suffering. Matt and Ryan are joined by Philip Van Guilder, Director of Community Relationships at Greenhouse Treatment Center, who turned a personal crisis into a mission. His son's opioid overdose spurred him to become a naloxone administration trainer. Timestamps with Discussions: 09:26 Introduction Introduction to Philip Van Guilder, a speaker and advocate for understanding and confronting addiction. 09:57 - 11:39  Defining Enabling Van Guilder delves into the concept of enabling, emphasizing its dual nature. He discusses the delicate balance between wanting to be a supportive parent and the challenge of facing the situation realistically. 11:50 - 13:42 Overcoming Guilt in Caregiving Van Guilder explores the overwhelming guilt experienced by caregivers of individuals struggling with addiction. Using a scenario involving a parent and a daughter with drug problems, he advocates understanding addiction as a disease rather than a moral failing. Confrontation, he stresses, should be approached with love and empathy. 14:12 - 15:23 Challenging the Narrative of Choice Van Guilder challenges the perception of addiction as a choice. He prompts listeners to consider their reactions if discovering a loved one's substance use and encourages viewing addiction as a disease rather than responding with anger. Threats, he asserts, cannot compel an addict to seek help. 16:11 - 19:23 Establishing Healthy Boundaries through Communication Van Guilder highlights the importance of setting healthy boundaries through effective communication. He suggests refusing to enable destructive behavior while expressing a genuine commitment to helping the individual seek professional assistance. Understanding the addict's perspective and collaborating on a plan is crucial. 20:15 - 20:50 The Disease Takes Hostages Van Guilder reminds listeners that addiction takes hostages, emphasizing the toll it can take on the physical and emotional well-being of those fighting to save their loved ones. Self-care is stressed as paramount to prevent being consumed by the disease. 21:30 - 23:05 Taking Care of Yourself Drawing from personal experience, Van Guilder shares a story of taking someone to the hospital but prioritizing his sanity by dropping the person off. He underscores the importance of maintaining personal health and well-being when dealing with addiction. 24:15 - 25:50 A Father's Mission Van Guilder shares a poignant experience of reviving his son with Narcan. He candidly reveals not informing the parents of the other individual present due to his singular focus on his son. His mission is clear - to spread awareness and understanding about addiction. Resources:  Social Media: Instagram / Twitter @sobriety_pod AA Meetings: aa.intergroup.org/meetings Virtual NA Meetings: virtual-na.org Suicide Prevention Hotline: 800-273-8255 (Available 24/7) Al-Anon Support: Al-Anon.org Important Websites Mentioned by Phil: WTF Winning The Fight Love Cassidy

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick, along with guest Petros Colla, Business Development Representative for TruHealing Treatment Centers, delve into the critical aspects of navigating the treatment terrain for individuals grappling with substance use disorder. The discussion revolves around three key elements: detox, insurance, and investments in the recovery journey.  Timestamps with Discussions: 2:56 - 4:20:   Detox Myths Matt talks about detox, explaining that it's not as bad as some think, and you're not tied to a bed during the process. 4:22 - 6:04:Levels of Detox and Necessary Care Ryan shares experiences of different detox levels, highlighting that the facility determines the care needed. 7:37 7:59:  Detox as a Safe Space Matt emphasizes detox as a safe space for loved ones to rest and recover from drug use. 8:06 - 9:05:  Insurance Learning Curve Matt shares his journey of understanding insurance terms during rehab with the help of patient insurance counselors. 9:35 - 12:18:  Challenges with Insurance Coverage Ryan's story reveals challenges with insurance during treatment, a common issue for many. 14:20 - 16:45:  Recovery Process and Investments Matt discusses recovery as a process and the importance of learning from mistakes for stability. 18:43 - 19:52:  Meet Petros Colla  Business Development Representative for TruHealing Treatment Centers 20:16 - 22:10: Petros' 28-Year Sobriety Journey  Petros discusses detox necessity, sharing his 28-year journey to sobriety and the clarity it brings. 22:50 - 23:38:  TruHealing's Insurance Accommodations Petros talks about TruHealing accommodating insured individuals and the importance of community relationships. 23:39 - 26:17:   Hope for Families and TruHealing's Support Petros provides hope for families dealing with addiction, sharing TruHealing's commitment to transportation and understanding addicts. 26:57 - 27:22: A Story of Hope and Learning in Recovery Petros shares a hopeful story, emphasizing the unpredictable nature of recovery and the value of repetition in learning. 27:36 - Closing Remarks by Petros  Petros' closing remarks, including sharing his cell phone number. Resources:  Support Groups: Alcoholics Anonymous (AA), Narcotics Anonymous (NA), Al-Anon, Nar-Anon. National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 Contact TruHealing Treatment Centers: Phone: 1-833-641-0572

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick delve into the crucial aspects of conducting an intervention for a loved one struggling with addiction. Scott Watson joins them from Heartland Intervention LLC, who sheds light on the significance of motives and timing in the intervention process. Timestamps: 4:53-5:25 - Navigating the Decision: Matt explores the challenging decision families must make when contemplating an intervention. Emphasizing the importance of prioritizing saving a life over preserving a relationship. 5:53-6:49 - Compassion in Action: Matt underscores the importance of compassion, stating that allowing a person to suffer due to addiction is not an act of love. 7:22-7:57 - Motive Matters: Ryan highlights the significance of having pure motives, warning against interventions fueled by anger or selfishness. 8:00-8:44 - Welcoming Scott Watson: Matt introduces Scott Watson, a key figure in his sobriety journey, leading to a conversation on interventions and the valuable aspects of experience, strength, and hope. 9:47-11:17 - Understanding Interventions: Scott provides insights into the varied meanings of interventions, outlining the initiation process with a focus on therapy and collaborative efforts. 13:54-14:32 - Unified Love: Scott highlights the significance of love in interventions, stressing the importance of presenting a united front free from anger or resentment. 16:00-16:53 - Managing Roles: Scott explores the utilization of each person's role in interventions and the importance of identifying key enablers to deter relapse. 17:19-18:23 - Intervention Complexity: Scott highlights the complexity of interventions, stating that not everyone is equipped due to the mental health aspects of addiction, and recommends the book "Love First: A Family's Guide to Intervention." 21:11-22:36 - Swift Interventions: Scott recounts a brief yet impactful intervention and opens up about challenges faced during an interview in Ohio. 23:13-24:40 - Recognizing Cries for Help: Scott shares insights on addressing Matt's alcoholism, stressing the need to recognize subtle cries for help. Resources: If you or someone you know is struggling with addiction, consider reaching out to support groups like Alcoholics Anonymous (AA), Narcotics Anonymous (NA), Al-Anon, and Nar-Anon. In case of an emergency or crisis, the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is available at 988.

Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick share insights into how addiction impacts individuals physically, legally, and financially. Recognizing the signs early is crucial, as the effects can become more apparent. Timestamps: 3:15 - 7:00: Matt's Struggle with Handshaking Matt opens up about his experience with handshaking due to alcoholism progression. Learn how the physical toll of addiction manifested in Matt's life. 7:00 - 7:52: Ryan's Battle with "Meth Mouth" Ryan discusses losing teeth in active addiction, specifically from using methamphetamine. Hear the moment when one of Ryan's teeth fell out in a restaurant and his reaction. 10:40 - 11:23: Legal Troubles and Real-life Consequences Ryan shares his legal problems, being sued by a bail bondsman, and how legal issues translate into real-life challenges. 11:26 - 12:16: Matt's OWI Experience Matt talks about his OWI incident, its impact on his life, and the ripple effects on those he cared about. 15:10 - 16:09: Ryan's Journey to Jail Ryan discusses going to jail due to addiction, reflecting on the impact on his family and the worry he caused. 19:11 - 22:38: Managing Bills and Prioritizing Addiction Matt and Ryan explore the challenges of paying bills while addicted and mismanaging money. They emphasize the importance of communication and watching for unusual behavior. They also highlight the recovery process and post-rehab programs that assist in rebuilding life and financial stability. Resources: If you or someone you know is struggling with addiction, consider reaching out to support groups like Alcoholics Anonymous (AA), Narcotics Anonymous (NA), Al-Anon, and Nar-Anon. In case of an emergency or crisis, the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is available at 988.

The Mission The Supporting Sobriety Podcast is dedicated to providing hope to the unsung heroes behind those struggling with addiction…their friends and family. We will share insights, stories and resources to help listeners support their loved ones and care for themselves on the recovery journey. The Hosts Matt Bair Matt considers himself blessed to be a recovering alcoholic. His lifetime profession as a radio broadcaster has been derailed multiple times by alcohol abuse but he remains alive and employed through the grace of God and help of others. Matt lives by the humility introduced in the first step of 12-step recovery, that the alcoholic is truly “powerless over alcohol,” and the alcoholic in use of alcohol possesses a life that is “unmanageable.” He enunciates these beliefs in teaching recovery to alcoholics and addicts, while understanding there’s more to learn from the ones who don’t make it (Keep. Coming. Back). He truly believes everything “always gets better” if you don’t take the next drink or drug. Matt is dedicated to “supporting the supporters” like those who have been critical to his ongoing sobriety. Matt is the long-time morning and afternoon traffic reporter for WIBC / Indianapolis. Ryan Hedrick Ryan Hedrick's life has been a journey of recovery from a challenging battle with addiction spanning nearly 25 years. His struggles with cocaine and methamphetamine led him down a dangerous path, marked by numerous attempts at treatment. However, salvation came in the form of a 12-step program that became his sanctuary. To break free from the shackles of addiction, Ryan committed himself to giving back to recovery communities nationwide. He extended his support by bringing 12-step meetings to jails and institutions, sponsoring men on their recovery journeys, and regularly attending meetings. Like his co-host, the clutches of drugs and alcohol jeopardized Ryan's life and his career in radio. Ryan is currently a reporter and morning news anchor at WIBC/Indianapolis where he met his podcast co-host Matt Bair. Together they strive to offer a beacon of hope to those grappling with similar struggles. Their podcast aims to reach and assist individuals behind the scenes by sharing personal experiences, strength, and hope with their followers. Through their collective journey, Ryan and Matt seek to inspire and support those supporting loved ones on the path to recovery.