Matt Bair and Ryan Hedrick are talking about something that’s tough but important—saying no. In this episode of Supporting Sobriety, “Why We Say No,” they get into what it really means to support someone through addiction, and why setting boundaries isn’t just okay—it’s sometimes the best thing you can do for both of you.

They break down the three big reasons caregivers often struggle to set boundaries. First, we haven’t fully bought in to the recovery process. Second, we may have never truly given sobriety a chance. And third, sometimes we are not done using ourselves. These are real challenges that can make it feel impossible to take a stand.

This episode’s for anyone who shows up day after day to support someone facing addiction. It’s about finding that balance—taking care of yourself while still being there for them—and realizing that sometimes, saying no isn’t turning your back. It’s actually an act of love.