Well, Australia's response to illegals smoking has been slammed as an appalling failure, with the criticism coming from across the ditch. New Zealand's Assistant Health Minister has heralded her country's approach, where the nation has had a major drop in cigarette smoking attributed to their decision to regulate vaping products. She says the message is that if you don't smoke, don't vape, but if you do smoke, vaping may help because it is less harmful. For their take, let's bring in Dally Telegraph journalist James Willis and columnist Susi O'Brien moarning to both of you. James, this was your exclusive story. Cigarette smoking in New Zealand actually fell from more than fourteen percent down to six point nine percent in just four years. Should we consider doing what our friends over the ditch are doing well.

Well, Australia's response to illegals smoking has been slammed as an appalling failure, with the criticism coming from across the ditch. New Zealand's Assistant Health Minister has heralded her country's approach, where the nation has had a major drop in cigarette smoking attributed to their decision to regulate vaping products. She says the message is that if you don't smoke, don't vape, but if you do smoke, vaping may help because it is less harmful. For their take, let's bring in Dally Telegraph journalist James Willis and columnist Susi O'Brien moarning to both of you. James, this was your exclusive story. Cigarette smoking in New Zealand actually fell from more than fourteen percent down to six point nine percent in just four years. Should we consider doing what our friends over the ditch are doing well.

I think the approach from Australian nowt is delusional because Mark Butler has taken a hard line no stance on vaping. The only way you can vape in Australia is if you go to a pharmacist that they've got about forty thousand patients doing that, or forty thousand transactions.

I think the approach from Australian nowt is delusional because Mark Butler has taken a hard line no stance on vaping. The only way you can vape in Australia is if you go to a pharmacist that they've got about forty thousand patients doing that, or forty thousand transactions.

But the Australian Institute of.

But the Australian Institute of.

Health and Welfare says that there's seven hundred thousand people vaping in this country, which means the majority of people are vaping illegally and vaping these single use products that have bright colors and fancy little designs on the front that you buy from convenience stores. It's obviously a big problem with young people, but New Zealand's view is that it is.

Health and Welfare says that there's seven hundred thousand people vaping in this country, which means the majority of people are vaping illegally and vaping these single use products that have bright colors and fancy little designs on the front that you buy from convenience stores. It's obviously a big problem with young people, but New Zealand's view is that it is.

Not as harmful as smoking.

Not as harmful as smoking.

That has been proven by the way, all over the world in parts of Europe. It's helped millions of people quit smoking. But if you regulate it, then you can actually.

That has been proven by the way, all over the world in parts of Europe. It's helped millions of people quit smoking. But if you regulate it, then you can actually.

Test the products.

Test the products.

And one of the big issues with vaping is we don't actually know what are in these things. They've got huge levels of nicotine. There's a battery link to a wire into a bit of liquid like it's very toxic on the inside. So to regulate it and control it and bring people along for the ride, they've allowed a lot of people to quit smoking, and that's their view.

And one of the big issues with vaping is we don't actually know what are in these things. They've got huge levels of nicotine. There's a battery link to a wire into a bit of liquid like it's very toxic on the inside. So to regulate it and control it and bring people along for the ride, they've allowed a lot of people to quit smoking, and that's their view.

Australia says, no way.

Australia says, no way.

Susie, how do we do this?

Susie, how do we do this?

Well, it's really difficult. I mean, as the pair, as the parent of teenagers who were the kind of target market for the unregulated vapes. You know where they're and as far as I can see, they're no longer picking up their rainbow unicorn raspberry flavored vape from the milk bar on the way to school, and I think this is a good thing. So perhaps some of the more updated figures will show that this crackdown has worked, particularly on that target market. And the real concern there is that this was leading to smoking, and for the first time we had young people taking up vaping taking up smoking in that cohort. So I think, you know, it's the new Zealand Ministers feels a bit like the bully in the playground picking on everyone else to make herself feel validated. I think Australia has actually done pretty well and I think they should continue their strong stance.

Well, it's really difficult. I mean, as the pair, as the parent of teenagers who were the kind of target market for the unregulated vapes. You know where they're and as far as I can see, they're no longer picking up their rainbow unicorn raspberry flavored vape from the milk bar on the way to school, and I think this is a good thing. So perhaps some of the more updated figures will show that this crackdown has worked, particularly on that target market. And the real concern there is that this was leading to smoking, and for the first time we had young people taking up vaping taking up smoking in that cohort. So I think, you know, it's the new Zealand Ministers feels a bit like the bully in the playground picking on everyone else to make herself feel validated. I think Australia has actually done pretty well and I think they should continue their strong stance.

How can we say that, though, Susie.

How can we say that, though, Susie.

Really, when you look at the fire bombings that were seen across the country, there's tobacconists on every street corner, and yes, we know that they are very very harmful for young people, but the lack of enforcement and the border force is really only seizing a tiny bit of the problem. So I mean there's two ways to go about this, but banning it simply hasn't worked. We've allowed this black market to flourish. And unfortunately, young people are doing it no matter what. So you may as well bring them along for the ride like New Zealand's doing.

Really, when you look at the fire bombings that were seen across the country, there's tobacconists on every street corner, and yes, we know that they are very very harmful for young people, but the lack of enforcement and the border force is really only seizing a tiny bit of the problem. So I mean there's two ways to go about this, but banning it simply hasn't worked. We've allowed this black market to flourish. And unfortunately, young people are doing it no matter what. So you may as well bring them along for the ride like New Zealand's doing.

And educating them and they do it, and we know we're doing it.

And educating them and they do it, and we know we're doing it.

What do you disagree with?

What do you disagree with?

You disagree with that young people are doing it no matter what. I think when you look around, young people are not doing it the way they had. Just about every kid had a vape in their in their pencil case and that's simply not happening these days. And I think the fact that we can't know, not anywhere near.

You disagree with that young people are doing it no matter what. I think when you look around, young people are not doing it the way they had. Just about every kid had a vape in their in their pencil case and that's simply not happening these days. And I think the fact that we can't know, not anywhere near.

And a lot of them are starting to go back to cigarettes because they're getting the ten dollars ones.

And a lot of them are starting to go back to cigarettes because they're getting the ten dollars ones.

It's a problem and you know, certainly coming from Melbourne where we've got a massive problem with the tobacco wars, that is an issue. But in terms of stopping this, the ability the availability of vapes, I think that has been a very positive move.

It's a problem and you know, certainly coming from Melbourne where we've got a massive problem with the tobacco wars, that is an issue. But in terms of stopping this, the ability the availability of vapes, I think that has been a very positive move.

Okay, tell us what you think at home, because even if you are in an older category and don't maybe do vapes, you know kids, you know, young people who maybe do moving on. Queensland's youth wing of the United Nations has slammed the state's adult crime adult time laws, saying young people are unfairly demonized and targeted. The group said some young Queenslanders even fear going on a night out or seeing friends, worried they'll be accused of criminal activities. What do you think about this, James, that's pretty serious.

Okay, tell us what you think at home, because even if you are in an older category and don't maybe do vapes, you know kids, you know, young people who maybe do moving on. Queensland's youth wing of the United Nations has slammed the state's adult crime adult time laws, saying young people are unfairly demonized and targeted. The group said some young Queenslanders even fear going on a night out or seeing friends, worried they'll be accused of criminal activities. What do you think about this, James, that's pretty serious.

Well, now I'm not concerned.

Well, now I'm not concerned.

Why what a few junior burgers from the UN have to say about a major issue in Queensland. The reality is the Queensland government under David Christo Folly won the last election. This was the number one issue that they formed government because youth crime was out of control.

Why what a few junior burgers from the UN have to say about a major issue in Queensland. The reality is the Queensland government under David Christo Folly won the last election. This was the number one issue that they formed government because youth crime was out of control.

There were kids that were as.

There were kids that were as.

Young as eleven or twelve committing very very serious offenses. So his view is that if you do a crime that is serious, then you should be treated like an adult. Now, that was based on a string of people that had come forward to say we're victims of crime. Our houses have been raided, you know, people have died, our cars have been stolen. We want some actual justice here. So he did that. He's got a mandate to do that. He will not be listening to what anyone of the UN has to say, who often, you know, pass judgment from the other side of the world. I don't think he'll be too concerned about that because he has a mandate from the people of Queensland.

Young as eleven or twelve committing very very serious offenses. So his view is that if you do a crime that is serious, then you should be treated like an adult. Now, that was based on a string of people that had come forward to say we're victims of crime. Our houses have been raided, you know, people have died, our cars have been stolen. We want some actual justice here. So he did that. He's got a mandate to do that. He will not be listening to what anyone of the UN has to say, who often, you know, pass judgment from the other side of the world. I don't think he'll be too concerned about that because he has a mandate from the people of Queensland.

Yeah, sus they say they can't go out at night, they can't hang with friends in public or catch public transport.

Yeah, sus they say they can't go out at night, they can't hang with friends in public or catch public transport.

This is absolutely ridiculous. And let's draw the line here between the UN and the self appointed Queensland Youth Representative for the UN Youth Group who is working for the Labor of the Labor opposition. Let's make it clear this is someone with a vested interest to make the government look bad and I think she's doing young people a really big disservice here. I mean, these law was in Victoria, as in Queensland, are designed to crack down on a small group of habitual offenders who attack who are having macheti fights in supermarkets, who were attacking people as they sleep, making old people too scared to sleep in their own beds because they're having their cars stolen and attacked at night. I mean, these are people who are committing dozens and dozens of crimes out on bail. These are not people who were just going about their business. So I mean this is way out of line.

This is absolutely ridiculous. And let's draw the line here between the UN and the self appointed Queensland Youth Representative for the UN Youth Group who is working for the Labor of the Labor opposition. Let's make it clear this is someone with a vested interest to make the government look bad and I think she's doing young people a really big disservice here. I mean, these law was in Victoria, as in Queensland, are designed to crack down on a small group of habitual offenders who attack who are having macheti fights in supermarkets, who were attacking people as they sleep, making old people too scared to sleep in their own beds because they're having their cars stolen and attacked at night. I mean, these are people who are committing dozens and dozens of crimes out on bail. These are not people who were just going about their business. So I mean this is way out of line.

Yeah, ask victorians about that, huh. And finally, a new study has revealed that seventy percent of Ozzi's had faked a sick day at work in the past year.

Yeah, ask victorians about that, huh. And finally, a new study has revealed that seventy percent of Ozzi's had faked a sick day at work in the past year.

Ammah.

Ammah.

Reasons for faking a sicky including.

Reasons for faking a sicky including.

Stuff like a lack of sleep, to relax and recharge mental health. I think mental health is a sick day whatever, but also to attend special events, avoid meetings, and even because it was raining. James, have you ever faked a SICKI yeah.

Stuff like a lack of sleep, to relax and recharge mental health. I think mental health is a sick day whatever, but also to attend special events, avoid meetings, and even because it was raining. James, have you ever faked a SICKI yeah.

I did.

I did.

One said I sleep slipped in the shower it was about fifteen years ago, and couldn't come into work because I had a bad back.

One said I sleep slipped in the shower it was about fifteen years ago, and couldn't come into work because I had a bad back.

But what was the real story? Yeah you are, Yeah, sure, but I don't.

But what was the real story? Yeah you are, Yeah, sure, but I don't.

Reckon people do it as much as they used to because workplaces like, once upon a time, you'd be champion if you said, okay, well I'm going to have a going to have a sniffle and just continue through work. Now they say if you're coughing, go straight home. So I don't think it happens as much. Plus working from home. But yeah, that figure surprises me. I don't in my workplace, it doesn't happen that much.

Reckon people do it as much as they used to because workplaces like, once upon a time, you'd be champion if you said, okay, well I'm going to have a going to have a sniffle and just continue through work. Now they say if you're coughing, go straight home. So I don't think it happens as much. Plus working from home. But yeah, that figure surprises me. I don't in my workplace, it doesn't happen that much.

We've got a boss at home at the moment with the sniffles, who you know very well.

We've got a boss at home at the moment with the sniffles, who you know very well.

Yes, he had to be like shoved time. He did not.

Yes, he had to be like shoved time. He did not.

He wanted to come in. We had to wrangle him and send him home. He wanted to be here. So this is the new generation, Susie. Have you factor sick?

He wanted to come in. We had to wrangle him and send him home. He wanted to be here. So this is the new generation, Susie. Have you factor sick?

Well?

Well?

Absolutely, And I've always felt that the key to faking a really good sicky is to get on the phone, because if people think, if you know, if you're just going to phone it in, you're going to text it in, you know, you could be anywhere. You could be on the beach, a bondai, who knows. However, Oh look, i'd really I've got a lot of important things. Really, I'd love to be there, but look, I think I don't want to make everyone else siex Look, oh come if I can, and you just sort of then you go back to bed and go.

Absolutely, And I've always felt that the key to faking a really good sicky is to get on the phone, because if people think, if you know, if you're just going to phone it in, you're going to text it in, you know, you could be anywhere. You could be on the beach, a bondai, who knows. However, Oh look, i'd really I've got a lot of important things. Really, I'd love to be there, but look, I think I don't want to make everyone else siex Look, oh come if I can, and you just sort of then you go back to bed and go.

Yeah. Definitely definitely done it.

Yeah. Definitely definitely done it.

Most it's not for years. Not with my current employer, of course, No, yes.

Most it's not for years. Not with my current employer, of course, No, yes.

Yeah, I reckon.

Yeah, I reckon.

Most of us did it in the old days.

Most of us did it in the old days.

Now we're too scared. You wouldn't have had a sick day for.

Now we're too scared. You wouldn't have had a sick day for.

Not for ages, but I mean, we've all done it. I did it in my younger day too. Scared now scared of our bosses. Yeah, very scary

Not for ages, but I mean, we've all done it. I did it in my younger day too. Scared now scared of our bosses. Yeah, very scary