While Sunday Sanctuary is on a break, we want to share episodes from podcasts that we think you'll really like. This week: Makers & Mystics.

This episode is from season 13 of Makers and Mystics, "the podcast for the art-driven, spiritually adventurous seekers of truth and lovers of life." In this episode, Stephen Roach and his guest, John Heers, discuss viewing "hospitality as revolution". Big thanks to Stephen for letting us share this episode. If you like what you hear, you can find Makers & Mystics wherever you listen to podcasts.

Makers & Mystics website

Makers & Mystics Instagram

While Sunday Sanctuary is on a break, we want to share episodes from podcasts that we think you'll really like. This week: Makers &amp; Mystics.
This episode is from season 13 of Makers and Mystics, "the podcast for the art-driven, spiritually adventurous seekers of truth and lovers of life." In this episode, Stephen Roach and his guest, John Heers, discuss viewing "hospitality as revolution". Big thanks to Stephen for letting us share this episode. If you like what you hear, you can find Makers &amp; Mystics wherever you listen to podcasts.
<a href="https://www.makersandmystics.com/">Makers &amp; Mystics website</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/makersandmystics">Makers &amp; Mystics Instagram</a>

Whether you are seeking a moment of calm in your busy life, looking for guidance on your spiritual journey, or simply curious about new ideas and perspectives, Sunday Sanctuary is the perfect show for you. 

Inspired by the idea of creating a sanctuary, a safe and peaceful place where people can retreat from the chaos and noise of the outside world. 

Sunday Sanctuary seeks to create that kind of sanctuary for its listeners, where they can take a moment to pause, reflect, and connect with their inner selves.

Join Petra Bagust every second Sunday morning and experience the power of this unique podcast.

Be part of the Sunday Sanctuary community on Instagram and Facebook at @sundaysanctuarynz.

Whether you are seeking a moment of calm in your busy life, looking for guidance on your spiritual journey, or simply curious about new ideas and perspectives, Sunday Sanctuary is the perfect show for you. 
Inspired by the idea of creating a sanctuary, a safe and peaceful place where people can retreat from the chaos and noise of the outside world. 
Sunday Sanctuary seeks to create that kind of sanctuary for its listeners, where they can take a moment to pause, reflect, and connect with their inner selves.
Join Petra Bagust every second Sunday morning and experience the power of this unique podcast.
Be part of the Sunday Sanctuary community on Instagram and Facebook at @sundaysanctuarynz.

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Whether you are seeking a moment of calm in your busy life, looking for inspiration on your spiritual journey, or simply curious about new ideas and perspectives, Sunday Sanctuary is the show for you. It is a safe space for spiritual conversations that nourish the soul.

Inspired by the idea of creating a contemplative space in a busy world, Sunday Sanctuary encourages listeners to take a moment to pause, reflect, and connect with their wairua.

Join Petra Bagust every second Sunday morning and experience this unique show.

Be part of the Sunday Sanctuary community on Instagram and Facebook at @sundaysanctuarynz.

Whether you are seeking a moment of calm in your busy life, looking for inspiration on your spiritual journey, or simply curious about new ideas and perspectives, Sunday Sanctuary is the show for you. It is a safe space for spiritual conversations that nourish the soul.
Inspired by the idea of creating a contemplative space in a busy world, Sunday Sanctuary encourages listeners to take a moment to pause, reflect, and connect with their wairua.
Join Petra Bagust every second Sunday morning and experience this unique show.
Be part of the Sunday Sanctuary community on Instagram and Facebook at @sundaysanctuarynz.

Friends of Sunday Sanctuary: Makers & Mystics

The four themes of the season of Advent in the Christian calendar are hope, peace, joy and love. There are two others that we've noticed, though, which are anticipation and celebration. In this episode, Petra explores how these two things can happen at the same time. First up, Petra and producer Sam talk to a handful of people who are all at different moments of change (graduation, motherhood, marriage etc). Later on Petra talks to Rev. Sarah Lea-West about her art (found here) and how she has learnt to navigate the combination of anticipation and celebration.

Sacred Text:
A passage from Padraig O'Tuama's book In the Shelter

Music:
Exchange by Massive AttackSunshine
Family Affair by Mary J Blige
The Breeze by Dr Dog
Peace Piece by Bill Evans
Muramura by Aro

The four themes of the season of Advent in the Christian calendar are hope, peace, joy and love. There are two others that we've noticed, though, which are anticipation and celebration. In this episode, Petra explores how these two things can happen at the same time. First up, Petra and producer Sam talk to a handful of people who are all at different moments of change (graduation, motherhood, marriage etc). Later on Petra talks to Rev. Sarah Lea-West about her art (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/sarahleawest.art/">found here</a>) and how she has learnt to navigate the combination of anticipation and celebration.
Sacred Text:
<ul>
<li>A passage from Padraig O'Tuama's book&nbsp;In the Shelter</li>
</ul>
Music:
<ul>
<li>Exchange by Massive AttackSunshine</li>
<li>Family Affair by Mary J Blige</li>
<li>The Breeze by Dr Dog</li>
<li>Peace Piece by Bill Evans</li>
<li>Muramura by Aro</li>
</ul>

Advent - Part 2

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Sunday the 30th of November marks the start of Advent for 2025, the season of the Christian calendar that leads into Christmas. As Petra and guest producer Mick get into, Advent is all about waiting. In the first half, Mick talks to his close friends Tom and Carly about a long wait they endured in 2021. Later on Petra talks to Rev. Mathew 'Newt' Newton about how faith in God can help us to learn to wait, even when it often feels like there is no good reason to. 

Sacred Text:
Sacred Trust by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Music:
A Change is Gonna Come by Sam Cooke
Statue of a Woman by Novo Amour
Moon Age by Duster
Sitting in Limbo by Jimmy Cliff
Intro by The xx
Space 7 by Nala Sinephro

Sunday the 30th of November marks the start of Advent for 2025, the season of the Christian calendar that leads into Christmas. As Petra and guest producer Mick get into, Advent is all about waiting. In the first half, Mick talks to his close friends Tom and Carly about a long wait they endured in 2021. Later on Petra talks to Rev. Mathew 'Newt' Newton about how faith in God can help us to learn to wait, even when it often feels like there is no good reason to.&nbsp;
Sacred Text:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://young-catholics.com/230/patient-trust-prayer-teilhard-de-chardin/">Sacred Trust by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin</a></li>
</ul>
Music:
<ul>
<li>A Change is Gonna Come by Sam Cooke</li>
<li>Statue of a Woman by Novo Amour</li>
<li>Moon Age by Duster</li>
<li>Sitting in Limbo by Jimmy Cliff</li>
<li>Intro by The xx</li>
<li>Space 7 by Nala Sinephro</li>
</ul>

Advent - Part 1

Why do people still go to church? There are no shortage of reasons why church might seem like an outdated model for collective Christian worship, so why do they hang around? In this collab episode with the In The Shift podcast, Petra and Michael Frost sit down to talk about the societal and spiritual reasons why churches are still worthwhile, in spite of their spotty history.

If you want to find the full discussion that Petra and Michael had, look for In The Shift wherever you find your podcasts. Find the website here and the Instagram here. An episode of In The Shift we recommend you start with if you're keen to hear more is episode #104 with James Beck, 'Earthiness, Spirituality and Relational Resonance'.

Sacred Texts:
Quote from Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Excerpt from a Guardian profile of popstar Rosalia

Music:
Another Scorcher by Christoph El Truento
Equipoise by Max Roach
Galvanise by The Chemical Brothers
FTA by Whitney
Get Together by The Youngbloods
Grazing In The Grass by Hugh Masakela
Just Saying by Jamie xx

Why do people still go to church? There are no shortage of reasons why church might seem like an outdated model for collective Christian worship, so why do they hang around? In this collab episode with the In The Shift podcast, Petra and Michael Frost sit down to talk about the societal and spiritual reasons why churches are still worthwhile, in spite of their spotty history.
If you want to find the full discussion that Petra and Michael had, look for In The Shift wherever you find your podcasts. Find the website <a href="https://intheshift.com/">here</a> and the Instagram&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/in_the_shift">here</a>. An episode of In The Shift we recommend you start with if you're keen to hear more is episode #104 with James Beck, 'Earthiness, Spirituality and Relational Resonance'.
Sacred Texts:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/603122-those-who-love-their-dream-of-a-christian-community-more">Quote from Dietrich Bonhoeffer</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/music/ng-interactive/2025/nov/07/rosalia-critics-crisis-being-hot-for-god-lux-catalan">Excerpt from a Guardian profile of popstar Rosalia</a></li>
</ul>
Music:
<ul>
<li>Another Scorcher by Christoph El Truento</li>
<li>Equipoise by Max Roach</li>
<li>Galvanise by The Chemical Brothers</li>
<li>FTA by Whitney</li>
<li>Get Together by The Youngbloods</li>
<li>Grazing In The Grass by Hugh Masakela</li>
<li>Just Saying by Jamie xx</li>
</ul>

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