Host Kara Swisher is joined by Succession creator Jesse Armstrong and executive producer Frank Rich to discuss the shooting of episode 9, reaching those surprising betrayals in the finale, and life in the writers’ room. Episode 9, “All The Bells Say” has one of the most painful scenes between Kendall, Roman and Shiv that was ever written. Jesse takes us through the process of writing and shooting it and why it was so key for Jeremy Strong to be physically uncomfortable in order to pull it off. Will Kara have any luck getting inside information about season 4? Listen and find out. The official Succession podcast is produced by HBO in conjunction with Pineapple Street Studios.