If anything the last few years have taught us, it's that we can't rely on life to be overly predictable! But as Christian O'Connell highlights in his latest book 'Unscript - The Radical Act Of Being Yourself', maybe it was the predictability that was causing the issues all along...!

This conversation was one that had both of us reflecting on a whole bunch of stuff - from conforming to popular narratives, the anxiety of keeping up appearances, and being faced with having to start again.

And now, as the host of Australia's first ever NATIONAL breakfast radio show (because most are state-based for those not in Australia) on Gold FM, Christian reveals why it is so important for us to become 'undefended' in the persuit of whatever success looks like for each of us.