Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of I Heart Radio, Hello and Happy Friday, Am Tracy V. Wilson and I'm Holly Fry, and we had our Unearthed to close out the year. As this week's episodes, UM I wrote the vast majority of them before taking off work for the holidays, and uh, as I alluded to at the beginning of part one, when I made that plan, I really didn't think we had January third off as a company holiday. Once I found out that we had January third off as a company holiday, it was it was too late to revisit my schedule plan. And I also did not want to work on my free day off that I didn't know I had. So that is why I was going through all of my RSS stuff and more importantly, the things I emailed to myself over the break, because whenever I saw something that really grabbed my attention, I would sudden I would just emailed myself the news article to look at when I got back to work. Something I emailed myself that I did not put in is there was an article in The Skeptical Enquirer that named the person that the author believed was Roland Doe from the extras case, and I had originally typed up a thing to include in here, but I was checking with you, Holly, who researched that episode of the show, about whether this was actually new information. And it does not appear that it was, like it's got a lot of news coverage as though this was newly revealed. But when I went to like do some fact checking, I found a lot of stuff dating back to like five years ago, ten years ago and longer ago, naming the same person. Uh. I think you and I talked about it, and and you had not gotten into that specific in the Exorcist episode. Because this person still has living kin. This is a I mean a sensitive thing for a family. I would imagine we don't want to harm people with our podcast exactly. Um. And so when I realized that I took that part out something that I found, uh, real frustrating when I was doing the research. Um, We've had various things that we've talked about in the past few installments of Unearthed that have been work that has like confirmed Indigenous nations oral histories, with the indigenous nations themselves being part of the research involved in the research. And the the one that was about the catching salmon and and intentionally keeping only the male salmon and returning the females to the water, and how that had been really import and so maintaining the salmon populations. Brought up a conversation I had had with a friend of mine about how when Europeans arrived in North America, a lot of people were like, Wow, this is an amazing bountiful land full of bounty, and it that didn't randomly happen. That was because indigenous people had been stewarding the land and practicing husbandry and agriculture for all of that time beforehand. Uh. And it just it was a particular find that made me real frustrating, uh, because it it's just like one specific example of that whole pattern. Yeah, it's a good example, not in that it is a good happening, but it's a good example in that it it makes it very clear that quote that you included that I read really does put it in sharp contrast of this worked just fine and even very very successfully for a long time, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, and you destroyed it in a hundred and fifty Like that's yeah, Uh, it's you can't get much clearer than that. No, And it's so relevant to so many things that we've talked about on the podcast recently in terms of previous installments of an Earth, when we've talked about practices that that had been used on the land of the water and the animals UM two be sustainable than then also things that were more directly about sort of the extraction and exploitation of the land, like the Iditar Bell versus Johndie Rockfeller episode kind of pulled all of that together. I enjoy working on these episodes. I've said that before working on it, getting of it done, and then taking two weeks off and jumping in Tuesday morning, I it was like, I don't know who wrote this. That happens to be on the time. I do feel compelled to tell you the story. You mentioned that you had not initially realized we were off on the third. UM many of our coworkers didn't realize that at all. And I had tweeted late Sunday night that the next day, the third, was a holiday, and we had several of our coworkers replied they were like, wait, we're off tomorrow. A bunch more had deemed me had been like, are we really off tomorrow? This wasn't secret information, it had been sent out, but I think it the link to our new holiday thing had happened late when a lot of people are left for the year, And yeah, I wonder how many people worked yesterday. Yeah, and because it because it fell on a weekend. I know there were a lot of people who normally have New Year's Day off as a holiday who didn't because it fell on a weekend. Uh. Like my spouse didn't have it as a holiday and took it as a day of vacation because he was like, I feel like I didn't get my holiday because it fell on the weekend. Um. So yeah, it was. It was definitely not secret. Just a lot of us missed it that we were Yeah. Yes, it just cracked me up. Um, here's when I was most excited. And it will surprise no one in all of our unearthed stuff. That fabulous find about how now the specific dates can be pinpointed of Dutch Golden Age paintings. Oh yeah with the Yeah, that's cool. I mean that's like an era of painting that I am in love with. Um, So of course I was like, what, I'm very excited. I'm trying to remember where I saw a bunch of Dutch Golden Age stuff. I think it was that time that we went to New Bedford, UM, while I was researching the Pallcuffee episode. I feel like that was where I feel like there was a Dutch Golden Age exhibit. UM like the maritime maritime subject matter. So yeah, yeah, there's a good amount of it at the met. The Louve of course, has everything you could ever want to look at. UM. I get completely lost in those paintings like that. Just the use of perspective in light is like magical for me. So that was very cool. I can't remember if that was an open access paper or not. If it was, I'll send it to you. You You can read it yourself. Coolest, the coolest. So uh, that concludes our Friday. I know a lot of people in my life are sick right now, so many, so many. If you're sick right now, if people in your family you're sick, I really hope things are going as well as possible. I know this was an unexpected turn of events for a lot of people, so really, I sincerely hope everybody is doing as well as they can right now and whatever's happening on your weekend. I hope it is as good and RESTful as it possibly can be in these times. Uh. If you want to send us a note about anything or history podcast that, I heart radio dot Com'll be here tomorrow with a Saturday Classic and have some new episodes next week. Stuff you Missed in History Class is a production of I heart Radio. For more podcasts from I heart Radio, visit the i heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of I Heart Radio, Hello and Happy Friday, Am Tracy V. Wilson and I'm Holly Fry, and we had our Unearthed to close out the year. As this week's episodes, UM I wrote the vast majority of them before taking off work for the holidays, and uh, as I alluded to at the beginning of part one, when I made that plan, I really didn't think we had January third off as a company holiday. Once I found out that we had January third off as a company holiday, it was it was too late to revisit my schedule plan. And I also did not want to work on my free day off that I didn't know I had. So that is why I was going through all of my RSS stuff and more importantly, the things I emailed to myself over the break, because whenever I saw something that really grabbed my attention, I would sudden I would just emailed myself the news article to look at when I got back to work. Something I emailed myself that I did not put in is there was an article in The Skeptical Enquirer that named the person that the author believed was Roland Doe from the extras case, and I had originally typed up a thing to include in here, but I was checking with you, Holly, who researched that episode of the show, about whether this was actually new information. And it does not appear that it was, like it's got a lot of news coverage as though this was newly revealed. But when I went to like do some fact checking, I found a lot of stuff dating back to like five years ago, ten years ago and longer ago, naming the same person. Uh. I think you and I talked about it, and and you had not gotten into that specific in the Exorcist episode. Because this person still has living kin. This is a I mean a sensitive thing for a family. I would imagine we don't want to harm people with our podcast exactly. Um. And so when I realized that I took that part out something that I found, uh, real frustrating when I was doing the research. Um, We've had various things that we've talked about in the past few installments of Unearthed that have been work that has like confirmed Indigenous nations oral histories, with the indigenous nations themselves being part of the research involved in the research. And the the one that was about the catching salmon and and intentionally keeping only the male salmon and returning the females to the water, and how that had been really import and so maintaining the salmon populations. Brought up a conversation I had had with a friend of mine about how when Europeans arrived in North America, a lot of people were like, Wow, this is an amazing bountiful land full of bounty, and it that didn't randomly happen. That was because indigenous people had been stewarding the land and practicing husbandry and agriculture for all of that time beforehand. Uh. And it just it was a particular find that made me real frustrating, uh, because it it's just like one specific example of that whole pattern. Yeah, it's a good example, not in that it is a good happening, but it's a good example in that it it makes it very clear that quote that you included that I read really does put it in sharp contrast of this worked just fine and even very very successfully for a long time, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, and you destroyed it in a hundred and fifty Like that's yeah, Uh, it's you can't get much clearer than that. No, And it's so relevant to so many things that we've talked about on the podcast recently in terms of previous installments of an Earth, when we've talked about practices that that had been used on the land of the water and the animals UM two be sustainable than then also things that were more directly about sort of the extraction and exploitation of the land, like the Iditar Bell versus Johndie Rockfeller episode kind of pulled all of that together. I enjoy working on these episodes. I've said that before working on it, getting of it done, and then taking two weeks off and jumping in Tuesday morning, I it was like, I don't know who wrote this. That happens to be on the time. I do feel compelled to tell you the story. You mentioned that you had not initially realized we were off on the third. UM many of our coworkers didn't realize that at all. And I had tweeted late Sunday night that the next day, the third, was a holiday, and we had several of our coworkers replied they were like, wait, we're off tomorrow. A bunch more had deemed me had been like, are we really off tomorrow? This wasn't secret information, it had been sent out, but I think it the link to our new holiday thing had happened late when a lot of people are left for the year, And yeah, I wonder how many people worked yesterday. Yeah, and because it because it fell on a weekend. I know there were a lot of people who normally have New Year's Day off as a holiday who didn't because it fell on a weekend. Uh. Like my spouse didn't have it as a holiday and took it as a day of vacation because he was like, I feel like I didn't get my holiday because it fell on the weekend. Um. So yeah, it was. It was definitely not secret. Just a lot of us missed it that we were Yeah. Yes, it just cracked me up. Um, here's when I was most excited. And it will surprise no one in all of our unearthed stuff. That fabulous find about how now the specific dates can be pinpointed of Dutch Golden Age paintings. Oh yeah with the Yeah, that's cool. I mean that's like an era of painting that I am in love with. Um, So of course I was like, what, I'm very excited. I'm trying to remember where I saw a bunch of Dutch Golden Age stuff. I think it was that time that we went to New Bedford, UM, while I was researching the Pallcuffee episode. I feel like that was where I feel like there was a Dutch Golden Age exhibit. UM like the maritime maritime subject matter. So yeah, yeah, there's a good amount of it at the met. The Louve of course, has everything you could ever want to look at. UM. I get completely lost in those paintings like that. Just the use of perspective in light is like magical for me. So that was very cool. I can't remember if that was an open access paper or not. If it was, I'll send it to you. You You can read it yourself. Coolest, the coolest. So uh, that concludes our Friday. I know a lot of people in my life are sick right now, so many, so many. If you're sick right now, if people in your family you're sick, I really hope things are going as well as possible. I know this was an unexpected turn of events for a lot of people, so really, I sincerely hope everybody is doing as well as they can right now and whatever's happening on your weekend. I hope it is as good and RESTful as it possibly can be in these times. Uh. If you want to send us a note about anything or history podcast that, I heart radio dot Com'll be here tomorrow with a Saturday Classic and have some new episodes next week. Stuff you Missed in History Class is a production of I heart Radio. For more podcasts from I heart Radio, visit the i heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.