Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. Listener mail. This is Robert Lynn and this is Joe McCormick. And it's Monday, the day of the week. We read some messages from the mail bag. We got some some Halloween related email, but also some clean up on some older episodes today, so it'll be a nice assortment. All right, let's jump in. What if we got Let's get some Halloween e stuff out here. Okay, Well, first of all, yeah, this one does concern some Halloween episodes. So you remember in the episodes we did on Elf Shot, there was one remedy for cattle that had been wounded with a fairy dart or an elf arrow, and it involved having a wise woman force feed something called fairy crabs to a cow. We had no idea what fairy crabs were. Uh, there is a thing called a fairy crab, but that can't be what the text is talking about because it's on the other side of the world and the name comes from much later. So we were just at a loss. We didn't know what these what this was referring to. But listener Leanne writes in with some thoughts. Leanne says, I have a hypothesis about fairy crabs. There is a species of small crustacean uh Chirocephalus diaphanous, found in the UK in vernal pools, known as the fairy shrimp for their ability to enter diapause when the pools dry up, and seemingly magically reappear much later. Diapause refers to like a dormancy state in the development of an organism. LeAnn goes on, I don't know if people would have used the words crab and shrimp interchangeably, but I'd say it's possible. And so Rob I attached a couple of pictures I found of Chirocephalis diaphanous. It is a uh, rather magical looking little critter. And yeah, you can imagine that you might attribute fairy like powers to these if you see that there's a tide pool or some kind of body of water full of these animals and then they just seem to disappear, like you What happened to them? I don't know, and then they re emerge later. Well, maybe there's some of the fairy folk. Yeah, I mean it looks like something you might put in a magical potion. It also does make me wonder if there is anything in the bodies of these little creatures that would have any kind of marked effect on the human if they were to consent them, like something that stood out, even if it wasn't something that really had a medicinal property to it. Yeah, totally so, I would say, interesting guests, Lien. But Leanne has another idea. She writes, another possibility lies in an organism found in the pools alongside the fairy shrimp Triops cank reformists, also called tadpole shrimps and a bunch of other things. My sister had these sold as sea monkeys when we were growing up. I couldn't find any reference to them being called fairy crabs online, but they look much more crab like. I wonder if they may have been known as fairy crabs at some point, given their similarities to the fairy shrimp, they're shared habitat, and their crab like appearance. And Robi also found some pictures of Triops cank reformists for you to look at here. They are certainly more more crabby. They have more a crawling kind of anatomy. They look in a way kind of like trilobytes. Yeah, yeah, these are These are interesting critters. They have a sort of a piece of armor on the back, like a big dorsal plate, and then the skittering legs underneath, and then a tail, eyes up on top, various whiskers and do Dad's pointing out? Uh yeah, yeah this this looks like a fairy crab to me. But once again, uh, I don't know of any literature from the time period in that place making the link, but totally decent. Guess m. You know. This makes me wonder too if we should do an episode on sea monkeys at some point. So there are a number of things to talk about with sea monkeys, and they certainly have a cultural footprint, um including TV series The Amazing Live Sea Monkeys, in which Howie Mandel plays a sea monkey. Oh boy, has there ever been a killer sea monkeys horror movie? Uh? Not that I know of. That's an idea. But this, the creature affects in The Amazing Live Sea Monkeys I remember as a child being slightly horrific, So maybe this counts looking it up right now? Oh oh no, no, no, no, oh, it's Mac and me. Yeah, it has that kind of look to it. Yeah, they're they're they're weird. This is this is a this is some frightening makeup. Yeah, so looking up for yourselves, everybody. If you look up, Howie mandel sea monkey, you'll see this and perhaps you, like like me, you have some conflicted memories of having caught this sun like late Saturday mornings as a child. Imagine a cross between the cone heads and mac and me and the bulls eye. That's exactly what it is, all right. This next one comes to us from Ian and this is ah. This is a from the previous listener mail. Or this is a previous listener mail about allegations of inhuman numeracy. Dear Robin Joe, I just finished your July listener mail. I am quite far behind, obviously, and I had to write in in response to the listener who said her cat could come up to at least seven when dragging scraps of cloth from the basement. Oh yeah, I remember that now. It reminded me of an incident with one of my cats, which strangely enough, also involves a basement. My wife and I have three cats, and when I feed them, our oldest cat, Zoro, gets fed last because otherwise he will rush to eat all of his food and then go steal the other's food before they have a chance to finish. I have him trained to where though he will follow me to the bowls of the other two and watch me dish out the food, he won't actually try to eat it. He will wait for his own. I have always wondered if he could actually count to three, or if he just knew which location he gets fed at, and a severe storm earlier this year gave me an apparent answer. One day this spring, while I was preparing dinner and waiting for my wife to get home from work, the tornado sirens went off. Luckily, in this instance, no one was hurt and no major damage was done, so I turned off the stove and went to the basement. The cats, who normally like nothing better than to try to sneak into the basin every time I opened the door, wouldn't come anywhere near. As it was close to dinner time, I tried what anyone would. I got out their food and started dishing it out in the basement. Only Zoro came down. The other two stood at the top of the stairs staring, but would not descend, and as always. He followed me to the first bowl and watched me fill it, then the second, and only started eating when I filled the third. This despite the fact that there were no other cats present trying to eat the food, the bowls were in completely different locations from normal. I was giving all of them the same food, and I had picked up and put down the bowls in no particular order, so it's unlikely he was somehow identifying the bowl itself. For the life of me, I can't think of any other explanation than that he is able to count ordinal numbers up to at least third. Though I am certainly open to having missed something, I do generally consider him to be by far the smartest of our three cats, so if any of them could do it, I would expect it to be him. As always. Thank you for the wonderful and interesting show. Ian. That is an interesting story, though, I there could be another thing going on here, which is that Zoro could be reading queues off of you. It's possible that Ian, you do something with your body or your face or something to signal now at his time, this one is yours. Yeah, yeah. The there's in my own household watching the cat and being watched by the cat around meal time for her. It uh. It leads for all sorts of theories like, okay, she how does she know that it is time and she just hungry at this time? Or have I cluded her into it by something I'm doing getting up and moving around? Um, it's it's always a puzzle with the cats. But but but yeah, like we've discussed previously, they're they're they're they're smart animals. They're smart as they need to be to do the things they do, and so when they're encountering puzzles like this, they may well be, you know, solving them incredibly. They just might not be solving them along the same logical or mathematical lines that the human brain would solve the same problem, and not dependent upon the same sense data either. But I also love this story too because it also it sounds like a setup to a horror story. Two of the cats knew not to go into the basement. Only Zora, the selfish cat ungry cat would come down, And I like, how the best you could do with training for Zoro is that, Okay, he's not going to rush in and eat the other cats food, but he will sit there and menace them while they eat and until he gets his Okay are you ready for Oh? A very spooky Halloween themed message about in response to Incense, Let's do it? Okay? This one is from Joe, just j O no e. In this one, uh, Joe writes an email with subject line the scent of the supernatural not fun. Oh and fair warning, this email contains some some rather grizzly ghost lore, so so be warned. Dear Robert and Joe. In episode two of Incense, you mentioned that the scent of incense was linked to godly encounters. Since Halloween is rapidly approaching, I thought it might interest you to know that in Malaysia and Indonesia, the scent of jazz and fringipani flowers at night is often linked to the presence of a ghost called the Pontianak in Malay or the Kunti Lanak in Indonesia. The Pontianak is the ghost of a pregnant woman who evisceerates her victims with her long finger nails. She often appears in a white, bloodstained dress with long dark hair. Some say she died at the hands of a violent man. Some say her baby was a stillborn child. Some say she died in childbirth. Whatever the reason, she lives in banana trees during the day, then comes out at night with vengeance on her mind. The only way to tame a pontianak is to drive a nail into her nape or the top of her head, after which legend says she will become a beautiful woman and a good wife. Other signs of the pontianic include the soft wailing of a baby, light feminine laughter, or a bird calling out ki ki ki as it flies overhead. In essence, if you smell something floral at night in Southeast Asia, when there aren't any flowers in the vicinity, it is time to get the hell out of dodge. Oh, this is fabulous. I wasn't aware of these uh, these scent associations with the pontianak uh and it's Indonesian counterpart, but I had I had read about this this creature before and one of my many creature books here, and also it had come out where we're always come up because we're always scouting films for weird house cinema, And this particular creature is the subject of numerous Malaysian and Indonesian horror films like going all the way back to the nineteen fifties, I think, and then on up to like recent films. So I haven't I haven't actually gone beyond the research phase on this and watched one of these. So if anyone out there has experienced with these movies and I would like to recommend one to me, do so, because I'm always interested to check out something like this. Oh yeah, okay, Joe goes on. Joe also has some notes about our episodes on fun. She writes, digressing your episodes on the nature of fun made me realize that there isn't a term for fun as a now. In Mandarin, the term used most commonly to refer to having fun. How one is translated as good play, So instead of did you have fun, we ask each other did you play well? Instead? Our words for fun all mean things like interesting, enjoyable, happiness, or joy. Similarly, the most common word for fun in Malay is shock or sarah knock, which both mean enjoyable. Essentially, our version of was it fun actually means was it enjoyable. I will definitely keep an eye out for fun words as I learn other languages. Now, hope you enjoyed these tidbits, looking forward to more episodes, Live long and prosper Joe without any Oh that's fabulous. I believe Joe has contacted us in the past with with really good emails about Southeast Asian uh mits and legends, So yeah, please keep it up. Love the emails, all right. This next one, Um, this one concerns a number of different topics. Um, this is from Andrew. Andrew. Oh, this one, this one has numbers in it, So we're gonna go through a few different things here. Andrew writes in and says, hello, fellas, I'm a few weeks behind on my podcast, so I'm a little behind the ball here. Thanks again for the entertainment you all beam into my ear holes. I truly enjoy it. Number one A thought came about during your discussion of interesting sensors during the Incense series. When I was a kid, a relative was stationed in Germany as a member of the United States Army. He would often send interesting gifts to family members around the holidays. One of these was called a smoker, which is apparently common in southern Germany. These are basically wooden figurine stylized in a similar fashion to a nutcracker instead of a nightmarish, unhinged jaw. There is a gaping round mouth with a tunnel extending through the torso. The top half of the figurine would be removed to reveal a platform where a conical lump of incense would be placed in lit before putting the top back on. The smoke would travel up and the figure would appear to be smoking. So attached includes an image of this mine was a boat captain and a rainslicker holding a tiny metal pipe. I thought this thing was absolutely the coolest, but we had a cat who was fond of knocking it to the ground. Some cats just want to watch the world burn, you know how it is. So you had a you had a sensor that was basically the killer from I know what you did last summer. He didn't look quite like that, and it looks more g No mish oh, No, I don't think that. I don't think the gnome attached is the one in the rainslicker. I think I think Andrews talking about a different one. There. You're imagining this as the killer from that slasherman. Okay, fair enough, all right? Number two. I was recently at a wedding where the videographer was utilizing a thirty five millimeter digital camera on a monopod equipped with a gimbal system. I was mesmerized throughout the ceremony and barely caught the valves. Fortunately, my wife was in the ceremony, so it's unlikely anyone actually caught me spacing out. I like this tidbit because for a second there, I thought the punch line was going to be that it was there. It was his own wedding, he was getting out. But that's not the case alright. Number three. During a recent Weird House episode, you suggested you discussed rather some poachers going after eagle leggs for an unexplained reason. This would have been the Extraterrestrial Visitors episode pot people. Yes, because there were proachers in there, what led by the guy who looks like a cross between Leslie Nielsen and Sam the Eagle Uh. And they were like climbing up in trees stealing eggs out of nests. As that he continues, I was reminded of the nine Disney non musical film The Rescuers Down under Way Better than It's assessor, don't at me. The villain in the movie, voiced by none other than George C. Scott, is after the eggs of a giant golden Eagle. His motivations are somewhat ambiguous in this movie as well. I suppose he can sell them. Moral of the story is poacher is going to poach. I watched that movie when I was a little kid. I remember it was it made me think Australia was really cool, and I think it was also part of a I don't know if there's a formal term for this sort of a period of a few years where there was just a lot of Australia related cinema in the United States. Yeah, like like mainstream ausploitation. Yeah, this is the Air of Crocodile, Dundee and so forth. I remember this film as well. Um, I think I saw it in the theater. And the other thing I remember, besides George C. Scott being the villain, is that, I guess with both Rescuers movies, Bob Newhart is one of the mice. He's one of the main voices in it, which always stood out to me because we would always as a family, we would always watch Bob Newhart shows or whichever one. Whichever one it was where he had the end and he uh he ran an end somewhere in New England. Yeah, with Larry Darrell and Darryl Yeah. Yeah, that one I remember about this movie that there was a I think the poacher had a pet. I don't know how you actually say the name of this lizard. It's like Goanna or Goanna, and it was named Joanna. Yeah that does ring a bell. Yeah. I haven't seen it since then, but I remembered it as being fun like I kind of put it in the same mental filing cabinet as The Great Mouse Detective, which of course had Vincent Bryce and oh yeah, as Ratigan. All right. Number four. Finally, I previously wrote in about Sammy Terry and he used the story generator to create a tale of spooky Savings. This genuinely had me breaking into hysterical after while driving home from work. Thank you for that. Now that we are fully into October, Sammy keeps popping up in my day to day. Maybe it's just a little bit ter mine, huffs he attached. And then we get some some screenshots of what is this like Reddit and Instagram and stuff of Sammy Terry popping up everywhere. Yeah, I mean, it's irresistible. Many frights to you this October. Oh man, I just remember because of this email, the Spooky Savings story. Do you remember that? We I think we ran a line from a Sammy Terry commercial through the AI story Generator, and it wrote a story about how a bank was offering new special deals that gave people really tremendous savings, but everyone who took the deals ended up stranded in hell. Oh goodness, yes, yes, this was a good one. Um. Now, two things I want to mention real quick about this about the story generator. First of all, I'll share the link again for anyone interested. It's story hyphen Machines dot net. And it was released as part of this this book that came out. I talked to the author in a previous episode of the show. UM. One of the author's Mike Sharpell's. So it's a really right book. I still really recommended for anyone who wants a deeper understanding of what's going on with this technology. And and hey, as we're getting into not only Halloween but the holidays, that seems like a good excuse for folks out there to generate some holiday and Halloween stories to send into us that relate to topics we've discussed. But the other thing I wanted to bring up is, you know, not naming names or anything here. But this was in the last few weeks. Was the first time I heard like a and this is probably like a second, third or fourth hand account, but a tale coming home from my child school about somebody using AI generated text on an assignment. So that was one of those moments where I'm like, oh man, I'm feeling future shock from this because this thing that is in a topic we discussed, it's already here, it's already out there in the world that my child occupies. You know. I was reading something just the other day about students using using AI to generate text for for writing assignments, and on one hand, I thought, wait a minute, these things are still not that good yet. How could they really you like, surely you would catch that. But then the other half of me went, you're forgetting how bad some student writing is true? Yeah, But the interesting thing about it too, and this is something I talked about with with Mike Sharpele's, is that that, on one hand, yes, there's always this this this tremendous potential to exploit this kind of technology, but part of his background is in education, and he pointed out that this technology is also is also potentially great for teaching, instructing children on how to write. So it's it's not like it has no place in schools. It's just like, how do you responsibly use the technology and and and and get students to use the technology responsibly? Yeah, I totally get that. End to somebody who has taught writing before, I think I can say I I see benefits in having alternative approaches to teaching writing, and some of those approaches being more formulaic or algorithmic, not always treating writing like some kind of magic that just emerges from your brain. Yeah. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna do a message from Dmitri on our episodes on Fun. Dmitri says, Hi, Joe and Rob, thanks for a great and engaging podcast you do every time. I'm a longtime listener. I have recently finished all three parts of the Nature of Fun episodes and have a lot of thoughts. First, as one with Russian as a mother tongue and living in Israel for years, I constantly use Russian, Hebrew, and English, often interchangeably, sometimes complimentary. My approach to translation is to feel the word by using it in some common sentences in different languages. So in Russian the word used similarly to noun. Usage of fun is udo volstfi, which is also pleasure, not a very close relative. In Hebrew, to say I did it for fun or it was fun, we use the word kief, which I don't even know how to translate directly. So my opinion here is that the perception of fun might be also language dependent. Yeah, I think, uh, I think we concluded that is true to a large extent. In those episodes. Dmitri goes on, speakers of different languages can mean different things by the term fun itself, since it might differ from one language to another. Maybe that's a reason why it's hard to explore fund in psychology. The concept itself is ambiguous. Second, I wanted to talk about having fun in sports. I'm an amateur runner, and yes, runners love talking about running. Uh, amateur runner who runs for fun and competitively. For me, there are several very different funds in running. Let's say, when I run alone on the trails, the fun is being submerged in nature. It sounds and changing view. Also, the feeling of the body working as a well oiled machine is kind of fun. However, when I run with friends, it's totally different fun the social aspect, the feeling of togetherness, the talking. And when I run with my son he's eighteen, not a kid anymore, and he often accompanies me, it's a third kind of fun. It's like a bonding trip with a bit of competing and fooling around. Yet I'm still the responsible adult, so sport can be fun even in the process of doing it. Oh and running on a treadmill is not fun, too boring and repetitive. Lastly, about swimming, I also swim laps and rob I think this is responding to your comments about whether or not swimming is fun. Um Dmitri says, if you want to make it more fun, instead of just swimming laps, try varying the speeds full speed twenty five ms followed by easy laps or add various technique exercises. It's less repetitive, so more fun and improved swimming. Overall. Here I follow the advice of my son swimming coaches. He swam competitively for many years. Sorry for the long message, Dmitri. Dmitri, no need to be sorry, Yeah, these may some good points, especially the changing of the intensity. I'll have to try that. I don't think i've really tried that. I did have some good results, like mixing things up to where instead of saying, all right, i'm gonna hit I'm gonna do X number of of laps to break it up into segments. So like now, I break my laps up into segments of five. And sometimes sometimes my mind will just kind of wander, But other times I find it a good exercise to be like, Okay, this is lap number one, and I definitely don't want to forget what number I'm on. So for this entire lap, I'm only gonna think about the movie Alien, and then for lap number two, I'm only going to think about Aliens. For lap number three, go into Alien three. But lap four, oh no, there's plenty. There's plenty to think about with the with the with the fourth Alien movie. UM. But you know, I can do it with various film franchises, UM, various series. It's kind of a good way too, because for me, the big thing is you get up into the higher numbers, even if it's not that high. If you're only like on four or five, Um, you can easily let your mind wander and forget which lap you were on. And I don't have an avocus or anything or beads that I'm using to keep track of them, So if I have forgotten where I am, then the only logical solution is to say, Okay, I think I'm on three, so I'll back it up one just to make sure. So now I'm on two and even though, and then I'm kind of punishing myself for forgetting what lap I'm on. But I would rather not do that. I'd rather just did swim the number of laps I set out to swim, And sometimes a film franchise can help with that. It's a great way to assess one's fitness achievements. So you're like, today, I finally made it all the way to the hell Raiser where evil goes online. I don't use the hell raizor films, but but but I have done fun Yeah, and the things that have at least five UM installments are pretty good for this. I think that one's like seven or eight by the way. Yeah, And then I would I would just get confused later on because I don't have a clean enough memory about the later hill Raiser movies. I'd be like, all right, one, two, three, four, and then the rest, so all right, well, hey, speaking of horror and film franchises, the next one comes to us from Jim. I'm not sure which Jim out of the league of Jim's out there, but Jim, but I should say Jim specifies Jim parentheses not from New Jersey. Okay, alright, non New Jersey gym, but not be non New Jersey gym, because there's more than one gym that's not from New Jersey anyway, this Jim says, Hey, guys, I love the artifact episode about Freddie's claw. It reminded me of the end of the movie Into the Dragon starring Bruce Lee. The head bad guy Han had a fake left hand that he could attach different weapons on. These include a bear or animal claw, and one that had a couple of blades or state knives in a row. Of course, Bruce wins in the end. The other interest in connection between these two movies is a man that acted in both. John Saxon. In Nightmare he played uh police lieutenant who was father of one of the teenagers and at that time got top billing for the film And Into The Dragon. He played a buffed martial artist looking forward to Halloween fun this October. Jim Not from New Jersey. Oh yeah. And when I first saw these two movies in uh, in college, I think they were the only two movies I knew John Saxon from. I saw them almost nearly back to back, I imagine, like freshman year, uh, because that year I was getting really into into horror. But I also had a big Bruce Lee phase. So yeah, like eighteen year old me had intense John Saxon awareness. Yeah. I mean, these are two big and iconic films that he had had roles in, and then of course his his filmography is really really deep on top of that. But yeah, Enter the Dragon. Some very memorable fight scenes with that bad guy with the different attachments that go in his hand. Uh. They ultimately don't aid him too much. He's still defeated by Bruce Lee, as I think everybody is defeated by Bruce Lee in that movie. But I hadn't thought about that so much. When I was putting together that that Artifact episode, I was like looking thinking about Freddie's claw and asking the question, what do we have in the real world of weaponry? That matches up with it at all. And basically the bottom line is you don't have weapons like that because weapons like that would probably break your fingers if you tried to use them. They only work if you're a dream master, supernatural horror battye uh. You know, torpedo in your arm, your arm through people's torsos in a nightmare. So I'm unsure about this claw weapon and Enter the Dragon without I'd have to review the footage to even guess at how believable this is. I guess it would. A lot of it would have to do with, like ow it's mounted and how it's supported. Is it supported more on the wrist? Is it supported at the stump? I mean, there's a lot of There are a lot of ways that it would be a terrible idea, but there may be some ways that you could actually have it well supported on the wrist. I guess I can shed no light on the on the knife hand or the claw. But one fact I do remember about John Saxon in uh Enter the Dragon, as I think in the original version of the script, his character was supposed to get killed with that claw, but Saxon didn't want his character to die, so he said, I'll sign on if you rewrite it so that Jim Kelly's character gets killed instead of mine, and oh man, that's a bummer. John Saxon should have died. I mean, it's not like they ended up doing anything else with that character, did they. Was was that his thinking, like, let's let's do the franchise. Oh, like he thought he would get his own kung Fu series afterwards. I don't know. Yeah, it's it's it's that's an interesting detail. I'm gonna have to ponder that one. I mean, as much as I love John Saxon, my memory is that he is by far the least cool of the three heroes of that movie. I mean, you gotta love Bruce and Jim Kelly Moore, But I don't know. Yeah, well, it does remind me a little bit of the details that we've discussed regarding Cannibal Apocalypse, where he was like, I'm not gonna I don't want to do that scene where I eat human flesh. You know, let's skip that part. So I don't know, maybe he had an aversion to just the gore of it. It's like, I don't want that blow on me. John Saxon. Did we catch you trying to protect your dignity while acting. Come on, it's not about you, You're playing a character. I'm sure he had his reasons. Yeah, okay, are you ready to finish off with a couple of short messages about weird house cinema? Let's do it all right? Uh? This one comes from Pat. Pat says Joe Rob. I'm sure you get a lot of recommendations for weird House. May I add mine? Watched again today The Black Cat from nineteen thirty four, first and best pairing of Bella Legosie and Boris Karloff. The film is dense, impressionistic, satanic, mysterious. There's a torture scene, necrophilia, and much more. One of the earliest film scores. As an aside, many Legosi detractors say he didn't get roles because of his thick accent. The accent works better for him in this film than in Dracula. Should you pass this by? I know I will get great entertainment weekly, Thanks ever so much? Pat? Uh? Well, Pat, Yeah, we will definitely consider that. We'll put it on the list and see what we think. This is a movie I have wanted to watch for a long time and I've just never gotten around to until now. But one of my good friends I remember years ago, was telling me, you've got to watch The Black Cat. Yeah. Yeah, this is a film I also haven't seen, but I know it's It's been personally recommended to me, and I've definitely talked to people who hold it up as a very fine horror film, especially of the genre of the time period. But when they just just stands out genre wide as well. All Right, this one comes to us from Tom. The subject is Phantasm Death Metal. Hello, Robert and Joe. Thank you for the almost frame by frame analysis of the movie Phantasm. This film was foundational for my little eight year old brain. I'm glad you pointed up the heavy lifting that the music is doing to create that dreamlike atmosphere throughout the film. You know, I'm all for indulging the child's natural love of monsters. I feel like aig is a little young for Phantasm. Well we we we say that now, but you know, the nineties and eighties they were a different time. I don't know when I first saw clips of Phantasm. I don't think it was eight, but at any rate, um Tom continues, knowing that Joe is something of a metal head. I was hoping you'd bring up the Swedish death metal band Entombed and the titular song on their debut album, Left Hand Path. The ultro dirge of that song is straight up fantas as a main theme with h M two pedals turned all the way up. When I first heard that, it blew my then eighteen year old brain. Thanks for the show. It has survived many pod purges and is one of my favorites. Tom oh Well, thanks for the note, tom uh I. So, yeah, you're right. I do enjoy some some metal albums, though I don't really know any Scandinavian metals, so I don't know this band at all. But I did look up the song and I got to the part where they played the phantasm theme and it was pretty wicked cool. Yeah, I'm not really familiar with them either, but but I'll have to check out this track. So at any rate, we always enjoy musical recommendations from our listeners, especially when they converge with the weird house cinema topics. All right, Well, on that note, we're gonna go ahead and close this one out, but we'd love to hear from you. Keep the listener mails rolling in. Uh, you know where to send them. We'll throw out that email in just a second, but just as a reminder, our listener Mail episodes run every Monday, Core episodes Stuff to Blow your Mind on Tuesdays and Thursdays. 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Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. Listener mail. This is Robert Lynn and this is Joe McCormick. And it's Monday, the day of the week. We read some messages from the mail bag. We got some some Halloween related email, but also some clean up on some older episodes today, so it'll be a nice assortment. All right, let's jump in. What if we got Let's get some Halloween e stuff out here. Okay, Well, first of all, yeah, this one does concern some Halloween episodes. So you remember in the episodes we did on Elf Shot, there was one remedy for cattle that had been wounded with a fairy dart or an elf arrow, and it involved having a wise woman force feed something called fairy crabs to a cow. We had no idea what fairy crabs were. Uh, there is a thing called a fairy crab, but that can't be what the text is talking about because it's on the other side of the world and the name comes from much later. So we were just at a loss. We didn't know what these what this was referring to. But listener Leanne writes in with some thoughts. Leanne says, I have a hypothesis about fairy crabs. There is a species of small crustacean uh Chirocephalus diaphanous, found in the UK in vernal pools, known as the fairy shrimp for their ability to enter diapause when the pools dry up, and seemingly magically reappear much later. Diapause refers to like a dormancy state in the development of an organism. LeAnn goes on, I don't know if people would have used the words crab and shrimp interchangeably, but I'd say it's possible. And so Rob I attached a couple of pictures I found of Chirocephalis diaphanous. It is a uh, rather magical looking little critter. And yeah, you can imagine that you might attribute fairy like powers to these if you see that there's a tide pool or some kind of body of water full of these animals and then they just seem to disappear, like you What happened to them? I don't know, and then they re emerge later. Well, maybe there's some of the fairy folk. Yeah, I mean it looks like something you might put in a magical potion. It also does make me wonder if there is anything in the bodies of these little creatures that would have any kind of marked effect on the human if they were to consent them, like something that stood out, even if it wasn't something that really had a medicinal property to it. Yeah, totally so, I would say, interesting guests, Lien. But Leanne has another idea. She writes, another possibility lies in an organism found in the pools alongside the fairy shrimp Triops cank reformists, also called tadpole shrimps and a bunch of other things. My sister had these sold as sea monkeys when we were growing up. I couldn't find any reference to them being called fairy crabs online, but they look much more crab like. I wonder if they may have been known as fairy crabs at some point, given their similarities to the fairy shrimp, they're shared habitat, and their crab like appearance. And Robi also found some pictures of Triops cank reformists for you to look at here. They are certainly more more crabby. They have more a crawling kind of anatomy. They look in a way kind of like trilobytes. Yeah, yeah, these are These are interesting critters. They have a sort of a piece of armor on the back, like a big dorsal plate, and then the skittering legs underneath, and then a tail, eyes up on top, various whiskers and do Dad's pointing out? Uh yeah, yeah this this looks like a fairy crab to me. But once again, uh, I don't know of any literature from the time period in that place making the link, but totally decent. Guess m. You know. This makes me wonder too if we should do an episode on sea monkeys at some point. So there are a number of things to talk about with sea monkeys, and they certainly have a cultural footprint, um including TV series The Amazing Live Sea Monkeys, in which Howie Mandel plays a sea monkey. Oh boy, has there ever been a killer sea monkeys horror movie? Uh? Not that I know of. That's an idea. But this, the creature affects in The Amazing Live Sea Monkeys I remember as a child being slightly horrific, So maybe this counts looking it up right now? Oh oh no, no, no, no, oh, it's Mac and me. Yeah, it has that kind of look to it. Yeah, they're they're they're weird. This is this is a this is some frightening makeup. Yeah, so looking up for yourselves, everybody. If you look up, Howie mandel sea monkey, you'll see this and perhaps you, like like me, you have some conflicted memories of having caught this sun like late Saturday mornings as a child. Imagine a cross between the cone heads and mac and me and the bulls eye. That's exactly what it is, all right. This next one comes to us from Ian and this is ah. This is a from the previous listener mail. Or this is a previous listener mail about allegations of inhuman numeracy. Dear Robin Joe, I just finished your July listener mail. I am quite far behind, obviously, and I had to write in in response to the listener who said her cat could come up to at least seven when dragging scraps of cloth from the basement. Oh yeah, I remember that now. It reminded me of an incident with one of my cats, which strangely enough, also involves a basement. My wife and I have three cats, and when I feed them, our oldest cat, Zoro, gets fed last because otherwise he will rush to eat all of his food and then go steal the other's food before they have a chance to finish. I have him trained to where though he will follow me to the bowls of the other two and watch me dish out the food, he won't actually try to eat it. He will wait for his own. I have always wondered if he could actually count to three, or if he just knew which location he gets fed at, and a severe storm earlier this year gave me an apparent answer. One day this spring, while I was preparing dinner and waiting for my wife to get home from work, the tornado sirens went off. Luckily, in this instance, no one was hurt and no major damage was done, so I turned off the stove and went to the basement. The cats, who normally like nothing better than to try to sneak into the basin every time I opened the door, wouldn't come anywhere near. As it was close to dinner time, I tried what anyone would. I got out their food and started dishing it out in the basement. Only Zoro came down. The other two stood at the top of the stairs staring, but would not descend, and as always. He followed me to the first bowl and watched me fill it, then the second, and only started eating when I filled the third. This despite the fact that there were no other cats present trying to eat the food, the bowls were in completely different locations from normal. I was giving all of them the same food, and I had picked up and put down the bowls in no particular order, so it's unlikely he was somehow identifying the bowl itself. For the life of me, I can't think of any other explanation than that he is able to count ordinal numbers up to at least third. Though I am certainly open to having missed something, I do generally consider him to be by far the smartest of our three cats, so if any of them could do it, I would expect it to be him. As always. Thank you for the wonderful and interesting show. Ian. That is an interesting story, though, I there could be another thing going on here, which is that Zoro could be reading queues off of you. It's possible that Ian, you do something with your body or your face or something to signal now at his time, this one is yours. Yeah, yeah. The there's in my own household watching the cat and being watched by the cat around meal time for her. It uh. It leads for all sorts of theories like, okay, she how does she know that it is time and she just hungry at this time? Or have I cluded her into it by something I'm doing getting up and moving around? Um, it's it's always a puzzle with the cats. But but but yeah, like we've discussed previously, they're they're they're they're smart animals. They're smart as they need to be to do the things they do, and so when they're encountering puzzles like this, they may well be, you know, solving them incredibly. They just might not be solving them along the same logical or mathematical lines that the human brain would solve the same problem, and not dependent upon the same sense data either. But I also love this story too because it also it sounds like a setup to a horror story. Two of the cats knew not to go into the basement. Only Zora, the selfish cat ungry cat would come down, And I like, how the best you could do with training for Zoro is that, Okay, he's not going to rush in and eat the other cats food, but he will sit there and menace them while they eat and until he gets his Okay are you ready for Oh? A very spooky Halloween themed message about in response to Incense, Let's do it? Okay? This one is from Joe, just j O no e. In this one, uh, Joe writes an email with subject line the scent of the supernatural not fun. Oh and fair warning, this email contains some some rather grizzly ghost lore, so so be warned. Dear Robert and Joe. In episode two of Incense, you mentioned that the scent of incense was linked to godly encounters. Since Halloween is rapidly approaching, I thought it might interest you to know that in Malaysia and Indonesia, the scent of jazz and fringipani flowers at night is often linked to the presence of a ghost called the Pontianak in Malay or the Kunti Lanak in Indonesia. The Pontianak is the ghost of a pregnant woman who evisceerates her victims with her long finger nails. She often appears in a white, bloodstained dress with long dark hair. Some say she died at the hands of a violent man. Some say her baby was a stillborn child. Some say she died in childbirth. Whatever the reason, she lives in banana trees during the day, then comes out at night with vengeance on her mind. The only way to tame a pontianak is to drive a nail into her nape or the top of her head, after which legend says she will become a beautiful woman and a good wife. Other signs of the pontianic include the soft wailing of a baby, light feminine laughter, or a bird calling out ki ki ki as it flies overhead. In essence, if you smell something floral at night in Southeast Asia, when there aren't any flowers in the vicinity, it is time to get the hell out of dodge. Oh, this is fabulous. I wasn't aware of these uh, these scent associations with the pontianak uh and it's Indonesian counterpart, but I had I had read about this this creature before and one of my many creature books here, and also it had come out where we're always come up because we're always scouting films for weird house cinema, And this particular creature is the subject of numerous Malaysian and Indonesian horror films like going all the way back to the nineteen fifties, I think, and then on up to like recent films. So I haven't I haven't actually gone beyond the research phase on this and watched one of these. So if anyone out there has experienced with these movies and I would like to recommend one to me, do so, because I'm always interested to check out something like this. Oh yeah, okay, Joe goes on. Joe also has some notes about our episodes on fun. She writes, digressing your episodes on the nature of fun made me realize that there isn't a term for fun as a now. In Mandarin, the term used most commonly to refer to having fun. How one is translated as good play, So instead of did you have fun, we ask each other did you play well? Instead? Our words for fun all mean things like interesting, enjoyable, happiness, or joy. Similarly, the most common word for fun in Malay is shock or sarah knock, which both mean enjoyable. Essentially, our version of was it fun actually means was it enjoyable. I will definitely keep an eye out for fun words as I learn other languages. Now, hope you enjoyed these tidbits, looking forward to more episodes, Live long and prosper Joe without any Oh that's fabulous. I believe Joe has contacted us in the past with with really good emails about Southeast Asian uh mits and legends, So yeah, please keep it up. Love the emails, all right. This next one, Um, this one concerns a number of different topics. Um, this is from Andrew. Andrew. Oh, this one, this one has numbers in it, So we're gonna go through a few different things here. Andrew writes in and says, hello, fellas, I'm a few weeks behind on my podcast, so I'm a little behind the ball here. Thanks again for the entertainment you all beam into my ear holes. I truly enjoy it. Number one A thought came about during your discussion of interesting sensors during the Incense series. When I was a kid, a relative was stationed in Germany as a member of the United States Army. He would often send interesting gifts to family members around the holidays. One of these was called a smoker, which is apparently common in southern Germany. These are basically wooden figurine stylized in a similar fashion to a nutcracker instead of a nightmarish, unhinged jaw. There is a gaping round mouth with a tunnel extending through the torso. The top half of the figurine would be removed to reveal a platform where a conical lump of incense would be placed in lit before putting the top back on. The smoke would travel up and the figure would appear to be smoking. So attached includes an image of this mine was a boat captain and a rainslicker holding a tiny metal pipe. I thought this thing was absolutely the coolest, but we had a cat who was fond of knocking it to the ground. Some cats just want to watch the world burn, you know how it is. So you had a you had a sensor that was basically the killer from I know what you did last summer. He didn't look quite like that, and it looks more g No mish oh, No, I don't think that. I don't think the gnome attached is the one in the rainslicker. I think I think Andrews talking about a different one. There. You're imagining this as the killer from that slasherman. Okay, fair enough, all right? Number two. I was recently at a wedding where the videographer was utilizing a thirty five millimeter digital camera on a monopod equipped with a gimbal system. I was mesmerized throughout the ceremony and barely caught the valves. Fortunately, my wife was in the ceremony, so it's unlikely anyone actually caught me spacing out. I like this tidbit because for a second there, I thought the punch line was going to be that it was there. It was his own wedding, he was getting out. But that's not the case alright. Number three. During a recent Weird House episode, you suggested you discussed rather some poachers going after eagle leggs for an unexplained reason. This would have been the Extraterrestrial Visitors episode pot people. Yes, because there were proachers in there, what led by the guy who looks like a cross between Leslie Nielsen and Sam the Eagle Uh. And they were like climbing up in trees stealing eggs out of nests. As that he continues, I was reminded of the nine Disney non musical film The Rescuers Down under Way Better than It's assessor, don't at me. The villain in the movie, voiced by none other than George C. Scott, is after the eggs of a giant golden Eagle. His motivations are somewhat ambiguous in this movie as well. I suppose he can sell them. Moral of the story is poacher is going to poach. I watched that movie when I was a little kid. I remember it was it made me think Australia was really cool, and I think it was also part of a I don't know if there's a formal term for this sort of a period of a few years where there was just a lot of Australia related cinema in the United States. Yeah, like like mainstream ausploitation. Yeah, this is the Air of Crocodile, Dundee and so forth. I remember this film as well. Um, I think I saw it in the theater. And the other thing I remember, besides George C. Scott being the villain, is that, I guess with both Rescuers movies, Bob Newhart is one of the mice. He's one of the main voices in it, which always stood out to me because we would always as a family, we would always watch Bob Newhart shows or whichever one. Whichever one it was where he had the end and he uh he ran an end somewhere in New England. Yeah, with Larry Darrell and Darryl Yeah. Yeah, that one I remember about this movie that there was a I think the poacher had a pet. I don't know how you actually say the name of this lizard. It's like Goanna or Goanna, and it was named Joanna. Yeah that does ring a bell. Yeah. I haven't seen it since then, but I remembered it as being fun like I kind of put it in the same mental filing cabinet as The Great Mouse Detective, which of course had Vincent Bryce and oh yeah, as Ratigan. All right. Number four. Finally, I previously wrote in about Sammy Terry and he used the story generator to create a tale of spooky Savings. This genuinely had me breaking into hysterical after while driving home from work. Thank you for that. Now that we are fully into October, Sammy keeps popping up in my day to day. Maybe it's just a little bit ter mine, huffs he attached. And then we get some some screenshots of what is this like Reddit and Instagram and stuff of Sammy Terry popping up everywhere. Yeah, I mean, it's irresistible. Many frights to you this October. Oh man, I just remember because of this email, the Spooky Savings story. Do you remember that? We I think we ran a line from a Sammy Terry commercial through the AI story Generator, and it wrote a story about how a bank was offering new special deals that gave people really tremendous savings, but everyone who took the deals ended up stranded in hell. Oh goodness, yes, yes, this was a good one. Um. Now, two things I want to mention real quick about this about the story generator. First of all, I'll share the link again for anyone interested. It's story hyphen Machines dot net. And it was released as part of this this book that came out. I talked to the author in a previous episode of the show. UM. One of the author's Mike Sharpell's. So it's a really right book. I still really recommended for anyone who wants a deeper understanding of what's going on with this technology. And and hey, as we're getting into not only Halloween but the holidays, that seems like a good excuse for folks out there to generate some holiday and Halloween stories to send into us that relate to topics we've discussed. But the other thing I wanted to bring up is, you know, not naming names or anything here. But this was in the last few weeks. Was the first time I heard like a and this is probably like a second, third or fourth hand account, but a tale coming home from my child school about somebody using AI generated text on an assignment. So that was one of those moments where I'm like, oh man, I'm feeling future shock from this because this thing that is in a topic we discussed, it's already here, it's already out there in the world that my child occupies. You know. I was reading something just the other day about students using using AI to generate text for for writing assignments, and on one hand, I thought, wait a minute, these things are still not that good yet. How could they really you like, surely you would catch that. But then the other half of me went, you're forgetting how bad some student writing is true? Yeah, But the interesting thing about it too, and this is something I talked about with with Mike Sharpele's, is that that, on one hand, yes, there's always this this this tremendous potential to exploit this kind of technology, but part of his background is in education, and he pointed out that this technology is also is also potentially great for teaching, instructing children on how to write. So it's it's not like it has no place in schools. It's just like, how do you responsibly use the technology and and and and get students to use the technology responsibly? Yeah, I totally get that. End to somebody who has taught writing before, I think I can say I I see benefits in having alternative approaches to teaching writing, and some of those approaches being more formulaic or algorithmic, not always treating writing like some kind of magic that just emerges from your brain. Yeah. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna do a message from Dmitri on our episodes on Fun. Dmitri says, Hi, Joe and Rob, thanks for a great and engaging podcast you do every time. I'm a longtime listener. I have recently finished all three parts of the Nature of Fun episodes and have a lot of thoughts. First, as one with Russian as a mother tongue and living in Israel for years, I constantly use Russian, Hebrew, and English, often interchangeably, sometimes complimentary. My approach to translation is to feel the word by using it in some common sentences in different languages. So in Russian the word used similarly to noun. Usage of fun is udo volstfi, which is also pleasure, not a very close relative. In Hebrew, to say I did it for fun or it was fun, we use the word kief, which I don't even know how to translate directly. So my opinion here is that the perception of fun might be also language dependent. Yeah, I think, uh, I think we concluded that is true to a large extent. In those episodes. Dmitri goes on, speakers of different languages can mean different things by the term fun itself, since it might differ from one language to another. Maybe that's a reason why it's hard to explore fund in psychology. The concept itself is ambiguous. Second, I wanted to talk about having fun in sports. I'm an amateur runner, and yes, runners love talking about running. Uh, amateur runner who runs for fun and competitively. For me, there are several very different funds in running. Let's say, when I run alone on the trails, the fun is being submerged in nature. It sounds and changing view. Also, the feeling of the body working as a well oiled machine is kind of fun. However, when I run with friends, it's totally different fun the social aspect, the feeling of togetherness, the talking. And when I run with my son he's eighteen, not a kid anymore, and he often accompanies me, it's a third kind of fun. It's like a bonding trip with a bit of competing and fooling around. Yet I'm still the responsible adult, so sport can be fun even in the process of doing it. Oh and running on a treadmill is not fun, too boring and repetitive. Lastly, about swimming, I also swim laps and rob I think this is responding to your comments about whether or not swimming is fun. Um Dmitri says, if you want to make it more fun, instead of just swimming laps, try varying the speeds full speed twenty five ms followed by easy laps or add various technique exercises. It's less repetitive, so more fun and improved swimming. Overall. Here I follow the advice of my son swimming coaches. He swam competitively for many years. Sorry for the long message, Dmitri. Dmitri, no need to be sorry, Yeah, these may some good points, especially the changing of the intensity. I'll have to try that. I don't think i've really tried that. I did have some good results, like mixing things up to where instead of saying, all right, i'm gonna hit I'm gonna do X number of of laps to break it up into segments. So like now, I break my laps up into segments of five. And sometimes sometimes my mind will just kind of wander, But other times I find it a good exercise to be like, Okay, this is lap number one, and I definitely don't want to forget what number I'm on. So for this entire lap, I'm only gonna think about the movie Alien, and then for lap number two, I'm only going to think about Aliens. For lap number three, go into Alien three. But lap four, oh no, there's plenty. There's plenty to think about with the with the with the fourth Alien movie. UM. But you know, I can do it with various film franchises, UM, various series. It's kind of a good way too, because for me, the big thing is you get up into the higher numbers, even if it's not that high. If you're only like on four or five, Um, you can easily let your mind wander and forget which lap you were on. And I don't have an avocus or anything or beads that I'm using to keep track of them, So if I have forgotten where I am, then the only logical solution is to say, Okay, I think I'm on three, so I'll back it up one just to make sure. So now I'm on two and even though, and then I'm kind of punishing myself for forgetting what lap I'm on. But I would rather not do that. I'd rather just did swim the number of laps I set out to swim, And sometimes a film franchise can help with that. It's a great way to assess one's fitness achievements. So you're like, today, I finally made it all the way to the hell Raiser where evil goes online. I don't use the hell raizor films, but but but I have done fun Yeah, and the things that have at least five UM installments are pretty good for this. I think that one's like seven or eight by the way. Yeah, And then I would I would just get confused later on because I don't have a clean enough memory about the later hill Raiser movies. I'd be like, all right, one, two, three, four, and then the rest, so all right, well, hey, speaking of horror and film franchises, the next one comes to us from Jim. I'm not sure which Jim out of the league of Jim's out there, but Jim, but I should say Jim specifies Jim parentheses not from New Jersey. Okay, alright, non New Jersey gym, but not be non New Jersey gym, because there's more than one gym that's not from New Jersey anyway, this Jim says, Hey, guys, I love the artifact episode about Freddie's claw. It reminded me of the end of the movie Into the Dragon starring Bruce Lee. The head bad guy Han had a fake left hand that he could attach different weapons on. These include a bear or animal claw, and one that had a couple of blades or state knives in a row. Of course, Bruce wins in the end. The other interest in connection between these two movies is a man that acted in both. John Saxon. In Nightmare he played uh police lieutenant who was father of one of the teenagers and at that time got top billing for the film And Into The Dragon. He played a buffed martial artist looking forward to Halloween fun this October. Jim Not from New Jersey. Oh yeah. And when I first saw these two movies in uh, in college, I think they were the only two movies I knew John Saxon from. I saw them almost nearly back to back, I imagine, like freshman year, uh, because that year I was getting really into into horror. But I also had a big Bruce Lee phase. So yeah, like eighteen year old me had intense John Saxon awareness. Yeah. I mean, these are two big and iconic films that he had had roles in, and then of course his his filmography is really really deep on top of that. But yeah, Enter the Dragon. Some very memorable fight scenes with that bad guy with the different attachments that go in his hand. Uh. They ultimately don't aid him too much. He's still defeated by Bruce Lee, as I think everybody is defeated by Bruce Lee in that movie. But I hadn't thought about that so much. When I was putting together that that Artifact episode, I was like looking thinking about Freddie's claw and asking the question, what do we have in the real world of weaponry? That matches up with it at all. And basically the bottom line is you don't have weapons like that because weapons like that would probably break your fingers if you tried to use them. They only work if you're a dream master, supernatural horror battye uh. You know, torpedo in your arm, your arm through people's torsos in a nightmare. So I'm unsure about this claw weapon and Enter the Dragon without I'd have to review the footage to even guess at how believable this is. I guess it would. A lot of it would have to do with, like ow it's mounted and how it's supported. Is it supported more on the wrist? Is it supported at the stump? I mean, there's a lot of There are a lot of ways that it would be a terrible idea, but there may be some ways that you could actually have it well supported on the wrist. I guess I can shed no light on the on the knife hand or the claw. But one fact I do remember about John Saxon in uh Enter the Dragon, as I think in the original version of the script, his character was supposed to get killed with that claw, but Saxon didn't want his character to die, so he said, I'll sign on if you rewrite it so that Jim Kelly's character gets killed instead of mine, and oh man, that's a bummer. John Saxon should have died. I mean, it's not like they ended up doing anything else with that character, did they. Was was that his thinking, like, let's let's do the franchise. Oh, like he thought he would get his own kung Fu series afterwards. I don't know. Yeah, it's it's it's that's an interesting detail. I'm gonna have to ponder that one. I mean, as much as I love John Saxon, my memory is that he is by far the least cool of the three heroes of that movie. I mean, you gotta love Bruce and Jim Kelly Moore, But I don't know. Yeah, well, it does remind me a little bit of the details that we've discussed regarding Cannibal Apocalypse, where he was like, I'm not gonna I don't want to do that scene where I eat human flesh. You know, let's skip that part. So I don't know, maybe he had an aversion to just the gore of it. It's like, I don't want that blow on me. John Saxon. Did we catch you trying to protect your dignity while acting. Come on, it's not about you, You're playing a character. I'm sure he had his reasons. Yeah, okay, are you ready to finish off with a couple of short messages about weird house cinema? Let's do it all right? Uh? This one comes from Pat. Pat says Joe Rob. I'm sure you get a lot of recommendations for weird House. May I add mine? Watched again today The Black Cat from nineteen thirty four, first and best pairing of Bella Legosie and Boris Karloff. The film is dense, impressionistic, satanic, mysterious. There's a torture scene, necrophilia, and much more. One of the earliest film scores. As an aside, many Legosi detractors say he didn't get roles because of his thick accent. The accent works better for him in this film than in Dracula. Should you pass this by? I know I will get great entertainment weekly, Thanks ever so much? Pat? Uh? Well, Pat, Yeah, we will definitely consider that. We'll put it on the list and see what we think. This is a movie I have wanted to watch for a long time and I've just never gotten around to until now. But one of my good friends I remember years ago, was telling me, you've got to watch The Black Cat. Yeah. Yeah, this is a film I also haven't seen, but I know it's It's been personally recommended to me, and I've definitely talked to people who hold it up as a very fine horror film, especially of the genre of the time period. But when they just just stands out genre wide as well. All Right, this one comes to us from Tom. The subject is Phantasm Death Metal. Hello, Robert and Joe. Thank you for the almost frame by frame analysis of the movie Phantasm. This film was foundational for my little eight year old brain. I'm glad you pointed up the heavy lifting that the music is doing to create that dreamlike atmosphere throughout the film. You know, I'm all for indulging the child's natural love of monsters. I feel like aig is a little young for Phantasm. Well we we we say that now, but you know, the nineties and eighties they were a different time. I don't know when I first saw clips of Phantasm. I don't think it was eight, but at any rate, um Tom continues, knowing that Joe is something of a metal head. I was hoping you'd bring up the Swedish death metal band Entombed and the titular song on their debut album, Left Hand Path. The ultro dirge of that song is straight up fantas as a main theme with h M two pedals turned all the way up. When I first heard that, it blew my then eighteen year old brain. Thanks for the show. It has survived many pod purges and is one of my favorites. Tom oh Well, thanks for the note, tom uh I. So, yeah, you're right. I do enjoy some some metal albums, though I don't really know any Scandinavian metals, so I don't know this band at all. But I did look up the song and I got to the part where they played the phantasm theme and it was pretty wicked cool. Yeah, I'm not really familiar with them either, but but I'll have to check out this track. So at any rate, we always enjoy musical recommendations from our listeners, especially when they converge with the weird house cinema topics. All right, Well, on that note, we're gonna go ahead and close this one out, but we'd love to hear from you. Keep the listener mails rolling in. Uh, you know where to send them. We'll throw out that email in just a second, but just as a reminder, our listener Mail episodes run every Monday, Core episodes Stuff to Blow your Mind on Tuesdays and Thursdays. 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