From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hello, Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my name is known. Ben is not here. Uh. This is one of those one of those episodes where Noel and I are hero in a room and Paul Mission Control Decan is out there and the three of us are just missing that corporeal form of Ben, at least the one that he takes when he's in this room with us. But he's sort of like a like a conspiracy Santa Claus. Well, Santa Claus is, after all, the biggest conspiracy of all. We've learned that one perpetrated on children from the earliest days, and it's one that teaches them how to not trust. That's correct. But he's also a spirit that exists beyond the corporeal form, as is Ben Bowling. That's right. And you know, as we've discussed many a time, been Uh touches us all. He's definitely touched me through the void. Ben touch us all, but he's not here. But he's on adventures. So today what we're doing is we're connecting with you. We are going to listen to the stuff that you've been leaving the voicemails. I've been going through a lot of them. Uh, truth be told here, there are a ton more that you do want us to know about the stuff that they don't want you to know. Yeah, yeah, that's right. So so today we're just gonna listen to some of these, kind of react to them in real time, and um, do a little searching and research as we're going. So what you're saying is we haven't done our homework today. Is that what you're saying? No, No, I'm just saying I think it would be an interesting experiment to just see us react to these in real time and then go, oh, if we don't know a lot about that, well, then guess what we're gonna look into it? Agreed. Um, that's kind of magic of podcast editing. We can uh you know, go off Mike for a second, looks and things up, and then come back as though that moment never actually happened. We might do that, or we might literally say, hey, this seems like something we should look into a great and we will. Yeah, so let's get started. We've got a message here from someone named Stephen. Hey, guys, it's one of the calling with anecdote and personal story. My dad graduated from Texas A and M in the early eighties that the master's degree and agg science, and I listened to your last episode reminded me of a story he always told us growing up that not his department, but the poultry science guys, we're supposedly developing a boneless chicken. Whether or not they actually succeeded, you know, he he never knew, but that was always a story we heard growing up. And then a personal story. We're talking about chicken again. Uh. In college, I had a good friend who worked on a Tyson chicken farm and the so called free range or the antibiotic free chicken houses, we're one of the more horrible things on the place. You had to wear a full like tybec suits to go in there because there were no antibiotics, so any pathogen that got introduced could kill all of the chickens. And even with that, you know, every morning they would go out and pick up fifty two hundred dead chickens a day just because of the conditions. Thanks guys. I appreciate everything you do that reminds me of like the book The Jungle by Upton Sinclair and just the conditions of you know, meat processing plants back in the day. I mean, obviously this isn't that horrendous, but it still seems it just seems I'm not some kind of like animal rights guy. Obviously I want animals to be treated, you know, well for the most part, but uh, that just it seems wrong to me. No. Absolutely, I grew up in Coming, as we've talked about before in the show, and there is a large Tyson processing plant there in town, and the smell is one thing, yep, because the smell just permeates the town on certain days when whatever they're doing in there happens. Um But knowing that there are so many chickens brought to that facility on a I'm assuming a daily basis and just processed, and they're being grown somewhere and where they're being grown, and then the need the demand to have that many chickens processed every day because Americans alone eat ridiculous numbers of them every every day, every minute, because kids really only like chicken fingers. Well, it's true, and they're like they like boneless chicken, right, Americans really like bis can um. You know, other countries around the world do as well. But um, you know the concept of even though these are antibiotic free places that are supposed to be you know, healthier for us when we get the end product of the meat. Um, the chickens are still in their suffering right and getting ill because of the conditions and the demand and the way they're stacked up together. It's weird. It's a chicken, right. We don't know exactly how much they feel, how much they think, We don't know for sure, but it's certainly a living being with a family, you know, and you're there retreat them that way. It's pretty messed up, you know. I mean, you know, every every whenever possible, I like to buy my meat and poultry from a farmer's market, you know, from a local farm where it's gonna be just so much better conditions than that. Um, you're gonna get like a whole chicken with the bones in, you know, the entire chicken that you can roast and use all the parts individually, cut the breasts out yourself. Just do a little homework, man, you know, it's not that hard. Get you a whole chicken from the farmer's market and then cut out the pieces and make your make your chicken fingers that way. You know, yeah, I get it people and people are busy, but I try to do that whenever humanly possible. Well, they're also priced sometimes price differences, and you never know. Um, there, it's going to range across the board, right, Can people afford to treat themselves better in that way? Well, that's true, But there also are a lot of programs. There is in Atlanta and Georgia for sure, where if you are part of the SNAP program, which is the you know more PC version of food stamps. I guess what they used to call it. Um, it's a food assistance program and you can get double your money's worth at the farmer's market if you use SNAP. There was a time in my life when I was a young father and lived in Athens, Georgia, and we were on food assistance for a little while, and would go to the Athens farmers market and they take your EBT card and they swipe it and they give you double the tokens. They give you literally one dollar equals two dollars and you know, you know, obviously it's true to to get that high quality of food, it's gonna cost a little more, but to have that supplement it it is a really nice thing. And I don't know if that's in any other states, but it definitely is still in Georgia. They do it at the farmers markets here. That's great insight. I I did not know that. Wow, let us know if that same thing happens where you live. That's a that's a great piece of information for for people to be armed with for sure. Wow. Okay, well, right before we get off of this one, let's talk about that first statement he said. Uh, he said it was a rumor. I believe that some lab out there was trying to develop a boneless chicken. Yeah. That's one of those like urban legends you always hear about, like you know, the monster mega chicken that the nuggets come from, you know, or like a chicken that like has like eight drumsticks or whatever you know. For KFC, I don't know, Ben, what if, what if you found about any any truth behind this seeming urban legend? Ben, I just call you Ben. You know what, I was addressing the bend shaped void over there at the end of the table. Matt, what do you think, uh, since you're here in corporeal form, so obviously the way muscles work, the way meat works, and animals that we eat, is that they require at least a little bit of moving around and muscle development, um to to get meat. Um. I think it would be very strange if you could successfully make a chicken without bones that could also be an edible product in that way. Um. But who knows. There have been stranger things that have occurred. For now, I would say probably myth uh, and if it is in development, it would be kept a secret and they would never let anyone know that the chicken that they're eating is actually this like globular thing with a beak. Yeah, probably just like whispering kill me, kill me. Yeah, this little chicken sounds sounds awful, But we do know their developments occurring in you know, various other meat alternatives that would essentially be like a boneless chicken, only it would be made out of different proteins. Yeah. Man, A lot of this beyond meat stuff is nuts. I think it's interesting, especially, I mean, you know, I'm I'm fascinated by the concept of this stuff because it's sort of like, it's not really for vegetarians exactly, because why do they want a thing that resembles meat? If their anti meat, you know, they're they're fine with eating tofu and just a veget vegetable based diet. It's maybe for people that have like weaned themselves off meat or trying to eat less less red meat or whatever. But the thing about this stuff is, I think it's a lot of it's not particularly good for you. I think it's really high in carbohydrates and and it's not exactly like a quote unquote healthier option. Wow, but it tastes amazing that beyond sausages are phenomenal. They just taste like just like a good kill boss or something. There. I'm really impressed. Wow, that's great. Well, um, cheers to you, meet alternative industry. I look forward to one day, you know, doing that. You've never tried it? I have. I've tried it. I haven't made it a part of my routine, I guess or my regular diet. Yeah. It's tasty. Yeah, And they're getting in bed with all these big corporations like Burger King and McDonald's and stuff. And I think that's why beyond meat stock is really really ride and high right now, because they got I believe it was a burger king deal. There's a beyond whopper. Maybe it's impossible. Those are the two big ones. Who knows. Look, it's it's out there. Check it out. Um, I have for my money a good black bean burger. Still it still works for me. You can do a lot of amazing things with veget vegetarian cooking. Just you know, it's all about the seasoning and the and just getting a good texture and you know, being creative, you don't have to have chicken or steak and everything. Absolutely, thank you Stephen for sending that interesting information in about chickens. Let's move on to the next caller. Here we go. The plant that they sent to Space is pronounced a rabidopsis. It's the name of the genus. There's many subspecies, but Arabidopsis is sort of the gold standard lab rat plant. So if you imagine, you know, we all use mice in our lab studies, Arabidopsis is like the plant version. We study it for everything, same with fruit flies. Just so you know, a rabidopsis well, hey, all right, that's a fun fact we do. We do fun facts on here. Sometimes I genuinely cannot recall what episode this is referring to or when we had this discussion about whatever plant gets tested out in space by the International Space Station teams. But hey, well, one thing's for sure, we must have pronounced it like some dumb dumps. That's clearly the purpose of this caller's call. And I did find out that it's a flowering planet. It's called a Rabbidopsis staliana, and according to this article on Nature dot com, it's a very important model system for identifying genes and what their individual functions are. Oh wow, that's fascinating. And there you go. Thank you, Arabidopsis. Thank you caller. Um, we learned something new, Arabidopsis. It's fun to say. Okay, before we get to some more listener voicemails, let's take a quick sponsor break and we're back. Let's hear some more. Hello. My name's Clay, forty five years old from Greenville, South Carolina. Long time listen to first time caller. Just listen to the episode of A World Without Cash. I just want to let you all know that people who don't use credit cards uh any type of cause at all. I am married. My wife. She does use her card or with every purchase she buys online and all of that. While I will walk around with five six dollars cash and I paid everything in cash because I don't trust it. I understand the system. I respect the system. It is convenient, just don't trust it. It's easily tracked, is uh. You know, people don't worry about that change. I do every dollar. Counsel me, I pay in cash every day. I make every payment everything in cash because I don't want my bank or everybody to know where I shot all the time. I love the show Keep it Up, you know. Caller makes I love this where they feel like Clay. I want to refer everyone as caller. Okay, it makes me feel like like a morning dry. I've time DJ you know. Thanks Caller Clay makes a good point. Um, it is really easy to to have your money like nickel and dimed away just by you know. Obviously there's fees, but then there's all kinds of other little stuff like let's say you use an a t M that's not your bank. That a t M charges you some money, and then your bank charge to use some money on top of that. So for the privilege of taking your money out of a non you know, bank sponsored whatever you want to call it, a t M. You end up paying a good six bucks sometimes. I mean some of those machines cost three fifty and then your bank will charge you an equal, if not greater amount on top of that. So you've literally just paid a big for the privilege of accessing your money. Dude, No, thank you. Yeah here, I totally identified with what Clay is saying here. Thank you for calling in. You keep all your money in a mattress, Matt. Don't you know why they call you Matt? Yeah, exactly. That's the how it whole. It all started. It was in utero, and I was like, I was like, momsh on the mattress or the cribs your inheritance. Um. So I can totally see what he's talking about here and not trusting the system for all the reasons we talked about on that episode and also the ones that Clay is talking about here, and just general tracking of what you're doing. It just feels icky. Sometimes doesn't mean we're doing anything wrong. It just means I'd rather not have somebody peering through the window and looking at everything I'm doing. Um. But the other thing here for me is a personal finance issue when I have found, at least in my experience, that when I just am going around using a card for everything, even if I'm getting notifications or an email about each specific purchase or something, I'm not really keeping track of all the spending I'm doing on that car, And unless I'm expensing it for work or something, it just kind of goes out into the void and I forget, Oh, I spent twenty dollars here, ten dollars here, five dollars here, fifty dollars here, And then I'll look at my bank statement, knowing that a payment is coming up, where my credit card statement and just go, wow, I spent way more money than I thought I did. I eat a lot of Ramen. Yeah, like or we have a Roman place in our building, and you and I we often do our family a little get together as at Ramen places. No, you're right, And the thing is, you know you can do this. You can go in and type a particular type of expense and add it up and see how much of it. But then you get to the point where you almost like you don't want to do that because then you'll feel like a jerk, you know, for how wasteful you are with your money, it's a slippery slope, by friend, and with the cash you know you have a finite amount in your pocket, it's an easier way to like tell yourself, this is how much I have for this amount of time. This is how much I'm gonna spend. Leave the cards with credit cards. Don't even get me started on credit cards. That's imaginary money to the nth degree, because it's so easy to justify spending a credit card because you don't. It's it's it's like something you just are pushing off. You're punting it into the future. And that's what credit car companies rely on, is you making that guy and then knowing you're not gonna pay the full balance off. And don't get me so this is always not a financial advisor show, but these things matter, and this is all inherent in this cash list system is everyone's got to make their money somehow through using your money and parlaying your money and making it accessible to you. But you can ask yourself, why do I need somebody else to make my money accessible to me? You know you don't. Well, let's uh, I agree let's stay on the money train and uh, let's hear from our next color. Thank you Clay check my money whistle. I did a Matt ben Nol super producer Paul just had to pause the episode for cash that y'all was doing, and UH wanted to comment about the ability of banks to control the cash. Uh. Off the top of my head, I do know that banks are making it more difficult for people in the firearm industry to be able to bank. And also, uh even more so, uh the ability of people who grow cannabis. Uh, in the cannabis industry, it's pretty darned difficult for them to be able to use financing and banks in order to grow their business. Just wanted to drop that on you keep on kicking ask and taking names. Back to the episode, doing our job for us. Very good, nice transition that so we in the biz call it transition. That's right. Well, okay, let's talk about this um banking industry making it more difficult for the arms and history. I'm assuming we're talking about the smaller arms industries like gun store t rex is with small arms, yes, but I guess I mean smaller businesses that deal in firearms, because you know, the the sale of weapons on large scales that moves economies with friends, well, no, no doubt. So you know, the banking system has no problem moving the large production, let's say, and distribution of firearms, UM and missiles to that matter ingreds. And that's that's how you change the course of history is with weapons and and you know, large scale weapons of mass instruction. Just the threat of using them, the existence of using them, that is what turns the tide of history. You know, not to put too fine a point on it, but that's a commodity in and of itself, of scale, you know, yes, and and banks are very much excited about getting in on wh maybe I don't care who wins UM in the same way that we give you know, weapons to other countries and then then those countries no longer our allies, but yet we financed you know, they're uh in fighting with you know anyway. They'll get me started on that, but yeah, sure, well well okay, so I guess what what's being said here is that perhaps banks are somehow preventing smaller a gun shop owners or smaller manufacturers or something, um, preventing them in some way from using the general banking system that we're all aware of and used to. UM, I don't know, I don't I haven't seen that anywhere. I haven't researched this, but I'm certainly going to look into it after hearing this. The The other note that is placed here is that cannabis industry is having a difficult time functioning within the traditional banking system, and we mentioned that in our episode. Yeah, and I wanted to actually kind of dovetail off of this one with another call that we got, is this one about cannabis, because I got a thing to add, but maybe i'll yeah weight because this is this is about cannabis as well. I thought this was interesting because it seems to be coming from a firsthand knowledge place. So let's listen to this one as well. Thank you for calling in here we go. Hi, guys, my name is Justice. I just finished listening to your episode about the world being cashless. UM in Oregon and lots of other states where cannabis is legal, and we can have legal drug deals if you will as a dispensary. Most companies do not allow, especially Viso does not allow cannabis industry companies to process money through their company, so it makes it kind of a weird conundrum where we have getting close to cash lest society, but an entire industry that is very large and making a lot of money it's not allowed to put their cash into the cash list system. So anyways, things are changing, laws are changing. VISA will be allowing cannabis related industry transactions to happen hopefully soon because of all the legislation happening. But just one of those things to put out there is like what happens when something is legal in one state, but our money is run by a countrywide, worldwide system. Is that the gray market? How do we deal with all of that? Thank you guys. You guys are the best. I really appreciate everything that you put out there. Have a great day. Okay, this is good. This is exactly what I was going to talk about. Okay, I'm gonna take this opportunity. Uh, I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I smoke cannabis um, but only in states where it's legal, right, Yeah, and one of those states is Oregon. I've spent a lot of I spend a decent amount of time in Oregon, and I've been in California, and I've been to these dispensaries, and it's really interesting the way they do business. They bay basically are set up like their cash register system. It's like they're in a t M. They're they're not doing direct deals with the bank. You're giving them your card and they're putting in an even amount, like let's say your tab is fifty two seventy five or whatever, like they'll round it to fifty and then they'll give you back change of whatever the overage was over the even number. And I've found out that it's because they're literally set up as like this independent kind of a t M machine. So instead of having to go to an a t M take cash out, you're just doing the transaction with them, and then they're have this little cash drawer that pops out, so they give you change back. And I don't quite understand how, but everyone I've been to that's how it works. And they always charge you an even amount and they sort of explain it a little bit but not in too much detail, and they end up giving you back a buck fifty or three dollars and cents in cash. Wow. Yeah, And then it makes perfect sense because what happens when an industry, uh exceeds the legalities of like another industry. Like right, so we've got cannabis, which is semi legal or it's legal in parts. But obviously the international banking or the international banking system is still old school and it and it doesn't fully recognize it has to make that choice. You know, just because something is legal in a state doesn't mean American banks are all going to be on board with it and be able to say, oh, well, now, all of a sudden, we're changing our policy to to match up with this new change in the law for one particular industry. So you know, it's the same with getting a loan, for example, to to to start a dispensary or what have you. That can be difficult to Oh. Absolutely, it's it's interesting. It's it's interesting conundrum. Like she was saying, you know, I really am fascinated by the whole way to seeing banking catchunless she's saying, you know, now, maybe soon you'll be able to, you know, process transactions with visa directly, but that's not the case right now. So it's all these little kind of thick is these short term fixes. You know, I think we should do an entire episode on the American cannabis industry, or maybe focus on a single state or something and really analyze how it functions, how it works, and really what affects this industry has had on the black market of of cannabis in the US and how things are changing, because I honestly don't know. We've we've touched on it a little bit, but you know, we focused on like a cancer cure or maybe something a little more niche within the within the cannabis world, but how the industry functions is fascinating. I don't want to scoop my my contact, but I mentioned this guy to you, been in talks with the with the gentleman is pitching some really great kind of true crime ideas. And I'm not going to go into specific because I don't want to, you know, blow up his spot, but he has one story that's very specifically about a particular group of black market marijuana traders that have been in the game since the beginning or you know, for a long time multigenerational family mari on a cartel, let's call it, but for not a cartel like that, murders people just kind of like a group of family members, multi generation, generational that grows marijuana and is very very good at it in a particular part of the country. What happens when all of a sudden it becomes legal and your black market operation that you've been running very carefully over all of these years and passed down, you know, the secrets of it, the generations, all of a sudden, your margins are gone. You know. You you you are kind of put out of the job because the prices go down, you know, when it becomes more widely available and there's not as much risk behind it. Not to mention, there's so much law enforce there's so much corruption and law enforcement of robbing people like this, taking their product, selling it to rival. You know, I mean, there's all you know, that stuff happens. We know that stuff happens. And this story that I'm talking about, I can't wait to get into it with this guy because I think it's gonna be a real doozy um. But yeah, dude, I want to I want to learn about that. I want to learn what happens when Philip Morrison, these massive tobacco companies get into the game, and you know they're going to because there we talked about this before. They they're the ones that fight legalization more than anybody. Yeah, you know, the same as with the alcohol companies, the same with big pharma and all that. You know. I actually spoke with Justice briefly on the phone after she left this message because I wanted to clarify a couple of nights, and then I edited this down a little bit. But it is really interesting to me and I want to I just want to understand when, like, will Americans accept and I think we will in general, of course, not not all of us, but accept a giant like a marl Marlborough version of marijuana. Will we accept it? Yeah? Like will will the market actually accepted? Will will be purchased? They might get laughed off the block, right, Well, yeah it might, or it might be the cheapest thing you can possibly buy out there, and then it would have to be the best and cheapest. They would have to do that, you know, use their corporate mojo, figure out how to make a product that not only is really good, but it's also cheaper than everything else and put other people out of business. And they could do that because they have the R and D to do something like that if they decided to go that route. But they probably would sleep, They would probably keep it under wraps for a long time and then roll it out. You know, do you think just I'm gonna ask you this just an opinion, do you think there will be a market for flavored cannabis in the same way that there's a market for the cigarettes that's being like starting to become regulated now and like stopped. I don't think so, because I don't know, you know, with with with cannabis culture, it's sort of like getting a fine cognac or like enough fine you know, batch of of of whiskey that's brewed, you know, with thought and like I mean, of course just made mass produced. But you know, people have their favorite strains and they have their favor whatever the flavor comes from. You know, when you get like a blueberry cush or whatever, it doesn't actually taste like magic blueberries or whatever. Well, what I'm asking you was like, would that do you think that's gonna be a thing? Because certainly, why isn't it already? What I'm saying is because these these um substances like nicotine that are you know, drug essentially like a THHC vape that has flavored components in it. I guess one like that because it's a marketing strategy, right for you know, whether anyone wants to admit it or not, in marketing strategy that assists in getting a younger crowd. And you don't think they've gotten so much bad press for that that they've gotten there they're going to lean away from that stuff from now on because of all the jewel stuff and you know the epidemic with vaping in schools and kids. I would think Mark, you know, a big company wouldn't want to touch that with a ten foot poll. God forbid, they'd be accused of trying to hook young kids on marijuana, you know, the Gateway drug whatever. You know. I guess it just depends on how the regulation actually ends up coming down over time. There's flavored vodka, That's what I mean. That's all that stuff. You're right, And it just feels like one of those things that is going to happen and it's gonna weird me out. And my my my counter to like, if you think this, why would this ever happen with all the heat that's come down on like jewel for example, Um, I think in five years, ten years, anything can be essentially a slate can be wiped clean for something like that. I think you're right. I think you're right. Forget what I'm saying. Short memory, you know, and and we will just make that memory even shorter. O. Great, Let's take a quick break here and here from a sponsor. Then we will return with another message. All right, let's jump to a story. Oh no, I think you're gonna like this one. Here we go. Greetings. My name is David, and I'm addressing anyone curious about the Q and ON subculture. My father mustered out of the army at the end of World War Two. He earned a degree in rockets from Dynamics and spent his entire career in the aerospace industry. He held Q clearance from the inception of that d OE civilian classification. I didn't know this until well after he retired, and he only confided in me things that were already public knowledge. And that's my point. Persons with that level clearance don't get there by accident, and as sure as hell, don't go public classifications. Departmentalized and specialized Q clearance gets you into area fifty one for specific programs, for instance, prototyping and range testing MERV multiple independent reentry vehicles, but that doesn't mean you get an automatic invite to the Star Chamber. Simply doesn't work that way. Anyone claiming otherwise has no credibility. The public in general and the qun On fathers specifically need to understand that people at that level of clearance are closely monitored. Posting on social media, let alone for channel, is not going to go unnoticed. Q clearance goes beyond top secret. They operate metaphorically speaking in rarefied atmosphere. The subculture might not heed this, but the rest of us should understand that we can engage their claims with reason and not rank her. The Q and on subculture is designed to so suspicion and divisive conspiratorial nonsense. Even if someone went rogue, it's likely that the Q and q and on doesn't exist. Mm hmm, Now this is really interesting, David Is It seems to have experience, at least through his family. I mean he's in there talking about his father possibly worked with MERV multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles, not to be confused with MERV Griffin. Yeah. Yeah, and it's not really a vehicle to rocket um that has multiple warheads inside of it. It's bonkers looking. Um. It's it looks like you know those incense cones that you burn from the top and they kind of you know, like they're like upside like Christmas trees or whatever. It looks like that. But it's like a combination of that and the chamber of a revolver almost where around the edges are like one, two, three, or four or five, six, seven, eight nine of these, and then in the center there's an additional one and then that piece is encased in like you know the rocket, the warhead, you know, k casing or whatever. Wow. I mean, and it's it's an intense weapon and a technology that must have been extremely secret when it was being developed. Um. And it's really I mean, this guy who just called our show his father worked on it, I guess, Um amazing Um. And he's basically saying that someone that has that level of security clearance is not going to go on some website and leak information because that person, in order to attain that level of clearance was vetted so like this, there was such scrutiny put in the vetting of that person. Um, that is highly unlikely that it wouldn't happen, and if it did happen, it probably wouldn't be through fortunes. Essentially, what he's saying, um and David is saying that Q and On I have to go back and listen to it again. But he's saying that the stuff from Q and On is meant to be divisive. I can't you know, I can't prove that that's the reason that it's you know, Q and On became such a thing, right, but it has certainly had that effect. Can I read a thing absolutely? This is a this is a response we got to the Q on episode that was really interesting. Uh, Q and On, please read and go deeper and again to your point, I feel like a lot of this stuff is malarkey and a lot of this stuff is kind of trumped up imagination run wild um meaning attached to something that really isn't there, but this person thinks otherwise. And in the interests of seeing both sides, I wanted to read a couple of eggs. Email. Hi, I just wanted to email since I expected better from you all. I was very disappointed on this. You missed the whole point. No mention of the Q proofs so many that is mathematically impossible to write off as coincidence. No mention that the reason Q writes the way he does is to get people thinking. Uh. No mention of the Q clock, Very little talk of Q post themselves, and more focused on what people think. Q confirms when someone gets it right. Obviously didn't look into how many times Q has been right. No mention of Q plus who was pretty much known to the to be the president. Q as a team and you can tell by the different writing styles. Again, you missed. The whole point of Q is to do your own research and from your own opinions, don't just take it from Q or from anyone else. Also, the first post was to get people's attention. However, while I do not put stock that Q knows the future are sometimes he'll be wrong as time schedules change. So okay, I'm not gonna name names of this person. And I think we all respect everyone's right to have an opinion and and and uh, you know, go down whatever rabbit holes you choose to go down. But I feel like a lot of this is what we're saying. It's like you assign your own meaning as a person. Even said it's to make you think and to do your own research. And I don't know what about the QUE proofs? Do you know about the Q proofs? We? Yeah, I don't want to talk too much, but Ben and I've looked into it pretty extensively, and there's more if we ever wanted to do another episode on it. It It just feels like a rabbit hole that I don't know if I want to go down right. Um, that's fair, and I think you know I we we try very hard not to let our personal opinions, you know, seep into what we do here on this show. For me, it's so much research that is going to be required. It's there's so much writing. And did you notice how many things are referenced in that email that you just read, how many different things all of those are like day's worth. Each one of those is a day's worth of research that we would need to do. Um. I don't I don't know. Maybe maybe we can get into it. UM, I'll just take like a vacation vental dignal. I'll just go on vacation and it's not a vacation. It's not a vacation which is from work, like not do any work except for research Q and on that's called work. All right, Well, I guess you're I think we need a proper vacation to like the keys or something, you know. Okay, Well for now, thank you for for sending that in, David, and thank you for writing in writer there, whoever you are. Um, we appreciate you know, we we generally appreciate criticism and and we take it to heart. We get what you're saying. We wanted to talk about Q and on on a high level that we could all kind of get an understanding without going too deep into the nitty gritty. All right, let's move on to our next color. Hi, I have something concerning about the duck population of the United States. It appears that instead of floating, they have legs that stretch to the bottom of the lake bed in which they are resting. The world needs to know. Well, first off, that as a terrifying image to me personally. Uh as you know my position on on avian creatures. Uh not, Yeah, that's that's just nightmare fuel right there. I don't know if I can engage with this thought experiment. What do you know about this? I'm just trying to imagine a really big gaggle of ducks with these really dangly legs. They all like hundreds of feet down and they're just kind of budeling along is coming from caller. And then somehow when they get up to fly, when they begin to like fly off of the surface of the lake, their legs just retract quickly or something. I don't know. Well, I really messing with us, right, Yeah, this is a joke. We we've've asked people to send in joke things we've we've received one. I appreciate. I appreciate it too, but it also I don't know how I feel about this. Nightmares for you, sir, Thank you whoever you are. Thank you, next caller, next collar. Hi, Okay. All I want to know is what happened to the Transgenesis podcast. It never actually came out that there were tons of ads. I was super psyched, and it never came out. What happened. This isn't a conspiracy. The show does exist and it is absolutely fabulous. It just isn't called Transgenesis anymore. They changed the name to the Second oil Age, which is a little bit more of a thematic quality that the show represents um from the genius mind of our friend and yours, Mr Robert Lamb and also beautiful, beautiful sound designed by Alex Williams. I play a character named tex Americana or text America, excuse me, and I get to do my best Alex Jones voice. It's very so if you want to hear, hear me um bloviating and popping blood vessels in my temples. I really gave it my all on that performance. So check out. The second oil age is out and full. You can binge the whole thing now on uh the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or anywhere you get podcasts. Yes, this is not a commercial. This is just happened to come up. Um. I'm also in that show too, and it's officially on my slate, my slate. Um, I really really enjoy it. The whole season is available, so go listen right now. Just listen to your podcast on the Smiling Face Killers. There's a podcast US called Radio Rental. One of the guys recounts the story and he thinks that they were trying to kidnap him, like he thinks that that's who tried to kidnap him was the so called quote unquote Smiling Face Killers. Say, but that's funny. Oh wow, I know, which I know exactly what he's talking about. Yeah. I I haven't listened to the whole series yet, but caller uh you may have already founded by now. I don't know when this voicemail was from, but we did a fantastic interview with our buddy Payne Lindsay Uh, the executive producer and host of Radio Rental, and really got some cool insight into how he found these stories. He gave us some of the background from some of these crazy, kind of weird Reddit threads that he went down to to get this stuff, and just how a show like that comes together. Um, and there's some hearing it from him and hearing how the stories affected him. I thought was a really cool uh entry point entry way into into the show, which I think is quite good. UM. So yeah, and I actually it's funny that this color mentioned this. I had actually texted Pain and specifically asked him if that episode or if this story it's in episode three by the way of Radio Rental, if you want to listen to it's the last story in that episode. UM. I asked him if he thought it might be connected to the Smiley Face serial killer at all, and he was like dude, Yeah, we like the guy thinks that and it like seems to match up. Just quickly give you an overview of the story. Dude is out with his friend at a bar drinking, who's telling the story. A woman comes up to them at the bar. She's clearly got this like long red hair that seems like maybe a wig or just isn't like than her natural hair color. She's talking them up. She's buying them drinks, like spending a lot of money on them, buying them drinks. His friend our storyteller. His friend gets very, very drunk, and at the point when he is so intoxicated, this woman talks begins flirting with him only the guy who's incredibly intoxicated, and then is trying to get him to come home with her and leave the other friend, who is not so drunk behind. Uh. Our our protagonist helps his friend get into a car, sends him home back to his house. This guy gets into a cab with the woman and they go buy more alcohol. She's trying to get him to drink more. He's fascinated and he wants to know what her game is, essentially, so he wants to play along with it and just see like, what's happening. He's feigning drinking more on his way to this other house. They get to the house and they walk up to it and the door is open, the front doors open. She's been gone from her house. The front doors just open. She goes in. He finds it to be very weird. He thinks he hears somebody else talking in the house. She keeps telling him he's there alone, it's just going to be the two of them. He hears her clearly talking to somebody. He says he's to go to the bathroom, throws up all the alcohol that he can while he's in this house. Then he hears in the bathroom a third person talking and specifically mentioning like you do it. No, you do it, you do it. So he's terrified for his life and he ends up escaping because he believes that they're going to do harm to him. And when we talked about the series the Smiley Faced serial killings, it was all athletic young men out drinking at a bar or at a game or doing something and then they wind up dead, you know, missing, then dead in the body. That's interesting and it just feels like this might this guy might have encountered a group or the group that was doing that, And you know, gosh, when I wouldn't be so like skeptical of the concept of some of these drownings having been murders, but I guess it's the idea of it being a serial killer at being like a specific group of people, like was it a club of some kind of Like again, I think this is such good fodder for like a comic or something, or like a really cool screenplay of surprise, no one's done this yet, Like maybe there's some interesting ritualistic reason behind doing this or whatever, you know, or some kind of fetishistic thing. I think it's fascinating. I think it got debunked enough in the materials that we found for that episode in terms of just like the too much happenstance, too much coincidence in in the replacement of these smiley faces. At the very least, that's a red herring, right, the smiley faces, because it's just such a ubiquitous graffiti symbol. And most of these people were found in bodies of water where there's like retaining walls that are going to be tagged up or whatever. And it was it was a relatively low number of of of Happy Faces, and in my opinion it is likely not connected. But it's also impossible to completely discount at this point because we have so so little information. Um well that's really interes things. So check out Radio Rental. It's episode three. See what you think in see what you think about the episode in connection with our episode on the Smiley Face Killer. Oh, I'm gonna play one last one here before we go, and then we'll just just say goodbye. It's really quick because it actually has to do with the Smiley Face Killers. Hi. My name is Ezra. I live in North Carolina. I just finished the Smiley Face episode, the Serio Killer episode, and I have a very similar story that I would like to share. In two and twelves, I was in high school in Charlotte, North Carolina, and I had a friend and her name was Kayleie Campbell and December one, she went missing. She called her mom and told her she was on her way home and then never came home. And then seven days later they found her body at the bottom of a pond. They said that she had finished the rest of her antidepressant medication, jumped into the pond and drowned. The medical examiner ruled it as an accidental dramming. But a few months after, maybe it was a year after I came across this article on Alternate Dimensions dot net, which isn't necessarily a very reputable source, but they mentioned someone called the Lewis Clark Valley serial Killers, who has apparently been active since the sixties. I haven't done too much research on it, but it's very easy to find this stuff on Google. Just her name is Kayla Campbell. She went missing on December one. They found her body on December seventh, two thousand twelve. Honestly, until you mentioned that it was mostly men being affected by the my least a serial killers, I was almost expecting you to mention this story specifically, even though it's such a small story and only my own tiny town outside of Charlotte really knows what happens. Do you want to do some reasearch? Is out there? Have a good night? Interesting? Yeah, I'm actually looking at w BTV. They've got a website wbtv dot com and it's got an article about Kayla Campbell, and I mean, it's really tragic, it's awful, but now we know, now we're gonna look into this I'm personally gonna look into this and think about it in connection with the Smiley Face serial killer or you know killers alleged killers, and also the Lewis Clark Valley serial killer. I've never heard of that, and now I'm looking into this. It looks like it was something and eight two in northern Idaho. That's where that's where it occurred. There's several missing people. Wow, Okay, we're gonna look into both of those things. Um, we're gonna see see what. Oh it looks like oddest tool was implicated in this. Oh man, this is a really interesting. Okay, we're gonna We're gonna this is probably gonna be a whole episode. I think that's smart. Um, and I think we can probably put the kaibash on this episode for today. All right, I mean, I know we got what did you say? You had like two hundred more of these that you haven't sifted through, and you get such a fine job with these. Man, these are some really good ones. Yeah, there are a lot. I apologize if you've received a call from these, gonna be the year of no apologizing. Okay, no it's not actually, but if you have received a strange call or if you do receive a strange call from a number that you don't know, it might be me, so pick up or don't. Every once in a while will be a robocaller and they'll be like, this is the Sheriff's department and we're looking for donations. Yeah, that's is your name? Spam risk? Yeah? No, I honestly have no idea what it's gonna look like on your color I D when you call it. I'd love to figure that out. Because you use the thing, like the service or whatever. You you call them back using the interface for whatever it is. Yes, this is called what's the name of the service we use ringing Central. This is a disclaimer out there. This is a warning if you do call uh, it goes to my phone, my personal phone, and I can see the number that you called me from. And generally I call people back if possible, to let them know that we're, you know, going to use their audio um and just to thank them because we appreciate it very much. I gotta say, Matt, after this one, I'm always a little skeptical about these, but after this one, well, I think we should do these a little more often. So we so we don't end up with his backlog because there's so many good ones. I yeah, I agree. I think I really enjoyed talking with you about this Ben Void over there. Um, he's just making this inward hissing sound. It's very lynch in and it's making me incredibly uncomfortable. But uh, it reminds me. I just saw Tim and Eric in their Mandatory World tour last night. Uh my gosh, you guys. Uh it very much reminds me of the Black Void over here. With Ben. It is just insane. It is insane and hilarious and I couldn't recommend it more. I saw on cinema it was it was just him and Neil Hamburger and that's what it was named. Gregg Turkington and Amelio Estevez's father was in it. But that was one of the coolest live things I've ever seen, comedy things I've ever seence, I'm very jealous. I'm sure they go all out for the awesome show live. Um, hey, did you see it in your town? Let us know you can. You can check us out on social media where either Conspiracy Stuff or Conspiracy Stuff show one of those or the other. Um, if you want to check me out as an individual human person. You can find me on Instagram at how now Noel Brown, Ben Void is not going to call it his social handles today, but you you you remember, and if you did happen to check his out right now, you might get a sense of where the corporeal bend form is lurking. And I'll tell you it's pretty interesting stuff. Although you have no idea when we recorded this or how or where. Well, that's true, the stories might have all expired by that. He only yeah, he's he's been. Uh. Corporeal Ben is pretty exclusively stories on Instagram, so those those have a shelf life. Um, Matt, you're what you are? You still Maddie two hands hs W and it's uh, I think it's Matt Frederick underscore. I heard it certainly is I tagged Did you see that picture I tagged you in? Uh? It was from the Dan Harmon trip. It was my friend Matt took a picture on his like instacs camera and I tagged you in. Ben's very sexy picture of you guys, So you got that underlighting like gade me feel like I looked terrible? So I didn't. That's how you looked awesome man, you look like some sort of sci fi cyberpunk hero. Um. If you don't want to do any of that, you can also, obviously, you can call our hot line, the hottest of lines. Get that hot line bling when you call one eight three three std w y t k UM. And if you don't want to do that either with shame on you, um, because you know we need we need your content. 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