It's true: multiple world governments have, at one point or another, experimented with the possibility of psychic powers. These investigations were always considered controversial... but the possibility of discovering something real was just too important to pass up. In tonight's episode, Ben, Matt and Noel respond to a question from an earlier listener mail segment: If governments did discover psychic powers, what countermeasures would they deploy to defend themselves from these same capabilities?

Introducing: Natural Causes
02:01

A CIA Heist: The Strange Saga of David J. Rush
1:02:39

Listener Mail: Sleeper Agents, Devil Corp, Automated Book Scanners, and the Gandalf Protest!
1:06:56