What if future explorers never have to physically travel anywhere? It's an odd question, but according to proponents of remote viewing, government-paid psychics were doing this as early as 1984 -- and breaking the known laws of time and space in the process. In today's episode, the guys re-enact one of the CIA's most ambitious (and strangest) classified experiments: Using ESP as a new method of exploration. Tune in to learn more in this 3D episode.
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I Heart three D audio from UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my name is Noel Day, called me Ben. We're joined as always with our superproducer Alexis Code being Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know. This is one of the weirdest journeys we have gone on, certainly in the last few years. We're really excited to to bring this to you. Um. We may have teased it a little bit obliquely, but all of us, everybody on the team has been working assiduously to not spill the beans until now when you're hearing this. And please understand, fellow conspiracy realists, we're people who are literally paid to talk. So this was, guys, this was an achievement on our part. Don't you think it was tough to to be so ameerta about it. But I'm really proud of us, you guys, I'm really proud of I'm especially proud of you Ben, and you Matt for your amazing contributions to this thing we're about to hear. Ben turns in a tour Toforce performance as the subject of a CIA experiment of sorts, and Matt also plays a character but absolutely crushed it with the sound design in this incredibly fun and immersive three D audio sketch. What do you even call it? It's a scene. It's kind of a work of art, guys, it's a true story. This is a historical reenactment based on a Freedom of Information Act request. Uh, this is really u you know, and I don't want to put you guys on the spot, but yeah, the romance went to another level on this one. I am so profoundly impressed. H This is in many ways Matt Frederick's baby, um and Noel, all the music you hear is indeed our own Noel Brown. Uh. I'm kind of along for the ride, but it's it's like, I don't want to hype it too much. Listen, listen when you when you're when you're hearing this, you here been saying those things about how everybody else did stuff. Ben takes us on this journey, so you just hold on hold on to your seats, strap in make sure the car seat is connected to the actual car, because you know that's why they make those straps there. It's really for safety. But most importantly, strap some headphones into your noggin. That is crucial to get the full effect. I did the music while listening to them to the thing that Matt had geniusly soundscaped in this amazing three D immersive way. And it's crazy how with just like two sources left and the right headphone you get all these incredible three effects and it really is kind of chilling. Um and having that in my ear as while I was blips blipping and blooping on my synthesizers made it all the more fun. And I think what I think, what we're all saying now is, uh, it's funny because we have these big grins on our faces. If you enjoy hearing this a fraction, like a miniscule sliver, as much as we enjoyed making it, uh, then we are going to be over the mooning brateful without further ado because we did promise ourselves we wouldn't spoil it. Travel with us to an undisclosed location. H m hmm. This is remote viewing session. The date is May twenty s The time is ten o nine am Pacific. Subject is Joseph. Session is being monitored by Robert. Both subject and monitor are unaware of the target. Okay, being the session, all right, now, using the information in the envelope I've provided exclusively focusing your attention now quality nine NONU. I want to see it looks like I don't know, he's sort of looks I kind of got an oblique view of pyramid or pyramid form. It's very high. It's kind of sitting in a large depressed area. Okay, it's yellowish oprah colored. A little time top agent about blogic and describe it. I'm tracking severe severe clouds more like dust storm. It's a it's a geologic problem. It seems to be like a just a minute, I've I've got to iron this out. It's really weird just for word of raw processions at this time so early, I'm looking at at a after effect of the major geologic problem. Okay, go back at the time before the geost raw m total difference. It's uh before there's no I don't know how It's like mountains of dirt appear and then disappear when you go before. I see a large flat surfaces, very smooth angles, walls. They're really large though, I mean they're megalithic. It's this very good time now beforetik around and then around this area. Let's see and I'm seeing. Uh, it's it's like a perception of a shadow of people, very tall, thin. It's only a shadow. It's not as if they were there, and they're not not not there anymore, go back the period of time real they are. It's like I get a lot of static on the line and everything. It's it's breaking up all the time, very fragmentary pieces don't have put together, just a cord the rod. Here. I just keep seeing very large people. They appear thin and tall, but they're very large and wearing some kind of strange blues. Holy side, Holy oh for this location says a lot of this location, but this move now to forty six four five three piece good top forty says go for three deep inside of the cabin, not a cabin, more like a canyon. I'm I'm looking up up the side of the steep wall that seems to go on forever, and there's like a structure with a it's like the wall of the canyon itself has been carved again. I'm getting very large structures. No, no intricacy, it's just a huge sections of steam stone in size size. Yes, yes, they're they're very heavy. It's like a rabbit board, corners of rooms. They're they're really huge. I don't feel like I'm standing in one. It's just really huge. Perception is that the ceiling is very high, the walls are very wide. Time stamp is real time plus twenty two minutes. Yes, that would be correct. All right, I'd like to move now out to another location nearby this time forty five one three four wells at the same time forty five freezing before they have a appears to be the end of a very large road, and there's a marker thing that's very large. Keep getting Washington Monument overlaid. It's it's like an obelisk that's moving out five we probably long two thirty forty five four. It's like I'm in the middle of a huge circular basin of the Range mountains by almost only around very ragged, ragged mountain. It's very tall basins, very very very large scale. Seems to be off or something it's just it's really big. Everything's big. The clusters squares up and down. Um, it's like you want to make them square anyway. They're they're almost flush with the ground, and it's like they're connected something very white or reflects light observations. The state flop. I'm amid oblique left angle. Sun is the sun as we're here, back out of the ground, just as fas just a little bit as fasse thirty four s very now las very far. It's like I can just receive I go a radiating pattern of some kind. It's it's like some really strange intersecting kind of roads just dug into valleys, you know where where rude is just a little blue. The edge, they're like real neat channel cuts. They're very deep. It's like the road wind down trick your readings. He's pulling back. Okay, now I've I've noticed electrically you are nulled out a little bit, and I want you to stay deep and recapture your focus. Here. It's really tough. It seems like it's just always very sporadic. It's very important take the focus. I have exercise. It's in semable business wag. It's a whole those stop meta top fatiform and now pickings on my horizons. Takes time and get back see the um intersecting whatever. These are aqueduct type things, these rounded bottom carved channels like road beds. See see pointed tops of something on the horizon, even and the horizon. It's funny and weird. It's like a different misty, like it's really far away, very vague. Okay, angry for now, Angry for I see pyramids. I can't tell that's overly or not because they're different. Okay, parents had the size and houses. M hmm, gotta both and they're huge. He's losing his ability to move accurately. Agreed. It's really it's attracted to things that are interesting. It's an interesting perception and getting should we abandon the targets. It's filtered from storms or something. Repeat that they're like shelters from storms, these structures you're seeing. Yes, they're designed for that. All right, go and side one of these and find some activity to tell me about time code plus thirty seven minutes real time. Different chambers, but they're almost stripped of any kind of furnishings or anything. It's like a strictly functional place for sleeping or it's not a good word. Hibernations in some form. I can't I get real raw input, storms, savage storms, sleeping through storms, make contact. Tell me about the ones who sleep through the storms. Very tall again, very large people, but they're thin. They look thin because of their height, and they dress like in hell. It's not it's like a real light silk, but it's it's not flowing topic clothings. It's eats cut to fit about. They're ancient people. They're they're dying it's past the time, or they're age as. They're very philosophic about it. They're looking for the latest survival and they just can't. I can't can't seem to get their way out. Don't go to plus forty minutes definite voltage reversal. They can't seem to find their way out. So they're hanging on while they look for while they wait for something to return, something coming with the answer hard they're uh. Evidently was a group or a party of them that went to find a new place to live. It's it's like I'm getting all kinds of overwhelming into it of the corruption of their environment. It's fairly very rapidly, and this group went somewhere like a long way to find another place to live, almost cause sels sels, I see a picture of a picture like, oh hell, it's almost a warp in a Oh god, this is difficult. It's it's like I get a globe. It's like a globe that goes through a comic table or something. Thing. But it's it's all very cosmic. It's like space pictures. Ah h, now pass as there's any way. Also, he knows who you are? And then how depressings. All I get is that they must just wait. It doesn't know who I am. I think he perceives of a hallucination. Last last how getting impression of a double bout what the heck it is? It looks like the inside of a larger boat, very rounded walls and shining metal. Not how where go along with them in their journey and find out where they go? Impression really crazy place, volcanoes, gas pockets, strange plants and very volatile place. It's it's very much like going from the frying pan into the fire. Differences that there seems to be a lot of vegetation where the other place didn't have it, and different kind of storm remote viewing session with subject real time plus forty six minutes confirmation. Congratulations, Now bring them home. Oh awesome. Now back to the room, back to the sound of my voice. Back further now to the sound of my voice. On the two of May, the method of site acquisition was a sealed envelope. It was coupled with geographic coordinates given by the monitor. The field envelope was given to the subject immediately prior to the session. The envelope was not opened until after the session. Inside the envelope was a three by five card with the following information the planet Mars time of interest approximately one million years BC. So wait, so we've talked about this, this all actually happens, well almost all of it. There's one thing that we have to tell you about that we did in the transcript that you could at one point find, I believe on the CIA's website or maybe the FBI was actually hosting it. It was a c I A request. We got ahold of the transcript a long time ago, and then it got taken down and we had to find it again through the wayback machine. But it's available online and you could you've probably heard of it before it's an actual transcript and it only contains two people, a subject and a monitor. So in this case, what you were listening to Ben's character and Noel's character. I of course had to insert myself in here somehow, So we made up a supervisor character that says mostly I guess the lines if you will, that we're coming from the monitor, because there are points in the transcript where it mentions that some of the things the monitor states in the transcript are not heard by the subject. So in our minds, we imagined this person in another room with a microphone that that he could turn on or turn off to where he could dictate some things without the subject hearing them. Yeah. Yeah, and this, uh, this also the lines that you hear when you say it's a true story, it's all pulled directly from that transcript. Of course. Uh, the CIA has nothing on us when it comes to sound design and soundtracking. I think that is clear now in compositions. But the well, they did some great work in the sixties. Okay, that part's true. But this the one thing that I think changes a little bit is that twist that yet, right, Matt, That's that's the only big like textual change. But even that is verbatim from this actual transcript. It is a true story. Uh. The CIA really did attempt to work with what they called psycho energetics. Uh. They defined this as a mental process by which an individual perceives, communicates with, and or perturbs characteristics of a designated target person or events remote in space and or time from that individual. That makes me think this is absolutely legit, because only Uncle Sam could write about such an exciting thing in such a dry and boring way and get that word perturb in there. I mean, why not see and um oh man, I completely didn't finish my thought there. I'm so sorry you guys. Um So, the supervisor character that you hear from me is actually the monitor, and it's actually in the transcript. There are like two lines I think that I added one in particular at the very end where I say confirmed, let's bring him home. That is completely made up. That's just I don't know, a fun imagining of what it could be. But that's how adaptation works, you know. Uh. So this experiment just for background, if you want to go back and listen again. Uh. The way they did it is that they they had a sealed envelope, and in the sealed envelope there would be a little index card like a three by five that you might have used to study in school. And this had a very simple three line message. It just said the planet Mars time of interest approximately one million years BC. That's right, that's right, And just the descriptions that were given by This is what I'm assuming, and I don't know if this is fully correct. This is what we're all assuming here. We found a video of a man named Joe McGonagall who stayed in two thousand and four that he was the person doing this remote viewing session. He was the subject, so he was ben essentially, and he was working with Bob Monroe that we've spoken about before on this show to make this happen, as well as his supervisor, so there were three people involved in some way. Um, we just don't have the full transcript, I guess, but he he talks about exactly what the experience was like. He says he was laying in a dark black cube in the lab, floating in a sea of salt, so it sounds a lot like a sensory deprivation chamber. He was listening to HEMI sink tapes. That's what Noel was inspired by when he created the soundtrack here, or the score rather. Yeah, just kind of like this sort of weird filtered, kind of other worldly kind of sound. And Matt, the way you filtered the experientially, you know, kind of took listeners from the perspective of the subject, Ben and kind of like bounce back and forth into the room with the monitor. Um. But I had a blast do in it. And like I said, doing the I did that all in one pass while listening to the things, so hopefully it ebbed and float along with the performances. I've really had a great time doing. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Yeah, we sure, I hope you enjoyed it. And also, you know, we should mention our a lot of our Pure podcasters because long time listeners, you know that most of us are thickest thieves, especially us who have been around for a while. Um, a lot of our our Pure shows are also doing special three D episodes, So if you enjoyed this, uh, please check out any number of other shows from your favorite shows on the network will also be having three D episodes this week. And Matt's you An You Got any scoops on ones that are on your radar in particular, Well, I mean, I know for sure there's a Ridiculous History three D episode because I recorded it with you guys, and I got to watch y'all be just ridiculous, as the name states, with with one of those three D O microphones with the ears. It was quite fun to watch an experience. So I can't wait to hear that one. I'm sorry we're always polluting you into direct stuff, but yes, thank you very much, that is true. Uh, there's also I believe Savor has one. Both both our friends any recent more in Vocalbam have appeared on the show before, so it'll be familiar to you. Uh. And stuff you should know is doing one stuff you should yeah, with Josh and Chuck and Jerry of course. And then uh, while we're on the subject Ridiculous History, just the plug you can hear our very own Matt Frederick on a two partner episode that came out recently while was on a sojourn. It's all about pointy shoes. Yeah poutine. Oh no, no, I got it wrong, Lane. But but back to Mars, this is a true story we have. We've interviewed people in the space before. We've also done some deep dives. We we just love the audio of the Theater of the Mind. If you enjoyed this episode, please do right to us. If you have more, oh gosh, if you have been participant in these experiments, are things like this and we'd like to know that too. We try to be pretty easy to find online. That's right. You can find us in the usual social media locations of choice. 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