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Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my name is Nol.

Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my name is Nol.

They call me Ben.

They call me Ben.

We're joined us always with our super producer Alexis code named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, you are here. That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know. If you're hearing this, The Evening publishes Congratulations, folks. We've made it midway through July twenty twenty four and we are joined with our favorite part of the show, you and your fellow listeners. We're gonna hear about Nazi drugs. It's a real thing. Still FedEx in the We've got a great UAP story, a little bit more insurance. We've been going through an insurance rabbit hole, and some responses to our ideas about how best to create micro generation. Before we do any of that, we were talking off here about about something that really really stood out to me and I think a lot of us in the crowdsnight are going to identify it. With this I don't know about you, guys, but I anthropomorphize so many inanimate objects. I am in like deep, it's not quite parasocial, but I'm in deep sustained relationships with weird things like the good fork and so like.

We're joined us always with our super producer Alexis code named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, you are here. That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know. If you're hearing this, The Evening publishes Congratulations, folks. We've made it midway through July twenty twenty four and we are joined with our favorite part of the show, you and your fellow listeners. We're gonna hear about Nazi drugs. It's a real thing. Still FedEx in the We've got a great UAP story, a little bit more insurance. We've been going through an insurance rabbit hole, and some responses to our ideas about how best to create micro generation. Before we do any of that, we were talking off here about about something that really really stood out to me and I think a lot of us in the crowdsnight are going to identify it. With this I don't know about you, guys, but I anthropomorphize so many inanimate objects. I am in like deep, it's not quite parasocial, but I'm in deep sustained relationships with weird things like the good fork and so like.

The one that doesn't have the time, that somewhat bet where it's giving you the finger. You guys, have you ever seen those little hooks they use in bathrooms where you can hang up like your jacket or whatever. If you look at them, they kind of look like an octopus that's trying to box with you. That's sort of squinting an eye at you. You know, Yeah, it's true. Dude's whole Instagram accounts things that look like basins. There's also one called like Sinister toilets. I really think it is a lot of fun.

The one that doesn't have the time, that somewhat bet where it's giving you the finger. You guys, have you ever seen those little hooks they use in bathrooms where you can hang up like your jacket or whatever. If you look at them, they kind of look like an octopus that's trying to box with you. That's sort of squinting an eye at you. You know, Yeah, it's true. Dude's whole Instagram accounts things that look like basins. There's also one called like Sinister toilets. I really think it is a lot of fun.

So maybe for this as we get into tonight's program, uh, just think along, look around your environment while you're while you're hanging out with us this evening, folks, and tell us right to us conspiracy diheartradio dot com, and tell us your favorite inanimate object that you have ascribed a personality too.

So maybe for this as we get into tonight's program, uh, just think along, look around your environment while you're while you're hanging out with us this evening, folks, and tell us right to us conspiracy diheartradio dot com, and tell us your favorite inanimate object that you have ascribed a personality too.

We want to learn all about.

We want to learn all about.

It, especially if there's one that you anthropomorphize and don't care for you know what.

It, especially if there's one that you anthropomorphize and don't care for you know what.

I means, like a sinister toilet perhaps, Yeah, all right, it's time to jump into listener mail. This one comes to us, uh via the side pocket kid, which I love. I don't exactly know what that means, but I think it's cool. I mean, I guess it's sort of like a Western Yeah, oh, that's right, the side pocket. Yeah. For some reason, I'm thinking of like our all pockets on the side, But no, certainly some are on the back and some are on the front. But traditional pants pockets, you know, do reside on the side. But this is most definitely a pool reference, a Billiard's reference.

I means, like a sinister toilet perhaps, Yeah, all right, it's time to jump into listener mail. This one comes to us, uh via the side pocket kid, which I love. I don't exactly know what that means, but I think it's cool. I mean, I guess it's sort of like a Western Yeah, oh, that's right, the side pocket. Yeah. For some reason, I'm thinking of like our all pockets on the side, But no, certainly some are on the back and some are on the front. But traditional pants pockets, you know, do reside on the side. But this is most definitely a pool reference, a Billiard's reference.

Or pants kind of just themselves a pocket for your left.

Or pants kind of just themselves a pocket for your left.

Two open ends. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, everything is a pocket if you really think about it. The ever anthromomorphized pockets is that the good pocket?

Two open ends. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, everything is a pocket if you really think about it. The ever anthromomorphized pockets is that the good pocket?

I know what the good pocket is?

I know what the good pocket is?

Yeah you do. Yeah, Well, it's always like, well it depends side or what hands you write with.

Yeah you do. Yeah, Well, it's always like, well it depends side or what hands you write with.

I think every living entity or every entity in general, has its own like personal mythology of these little beliefs, like the idea that maybe the left hand is for taking energy the right hand is for giving it.

I think every living entity or every entity in general, has its own like personal mythology of these little beliefs, like the idea that maybe the left hand is for taking energy the right hand is for giving it.

Stuff like that. Side. Yes.

Stuff like that. Side. Yes.

Oh man, dude, have you ever been in a majority Muslim country and eaten with your left hand? Not a good look. People won't get mad at you, but they will assume that you are dirty fair enough.

Oh man, dude, have you ever been in a majority Muslim country and eaten with your left hand? Not a good look. People won't get mad at you, but they will assume that you are dirty fair enough.

I do like it when things are in the pocket, as they say, which this email most definitely is. Ben You tease it beautifully. Hey, guys, just listen to your most recent strange news episode and I really enjoyed the conversation about converting the heat from the ai GPUs into usable power. I am an electrical technologist who works for a private utility company, and thinking of different methods to harness power into already built infrastructure is something that I love to do. Personally, I would love to see micro generation everywhere, aside from the usual solar panels and wind turbines on roofs. One pilot project caught my eye was run in Portland, Oregon. They tested installing micro water turbines, turbines, turbines whatever, I think, they're interchangeable roughly into the existing water main system. I found the article from good Net to be a decent read. Guys. I linked to that in the dock if you want to take a quick look it is in fact quite a good read coming to us from good Net Gateway to Doing Good, written by Bonnie Reva Rass, the deputy editor there at good Neet. Going on with the email, thinking about all that Rabbit hold me into thinking about the Venus Project, particularly about city design and how we should be developing cities and buildings and incorporate natural geographic features into the design process. I think the Venus Project would make an excellent episode, and I would love to hear you guys do a deep dive and hear your thoughts on it. Anyways, I love the show and all the work you guys put into it kept me company on mini a car ride. Feel free to use this on air. If you guys find any value in it, you can call me side pocket kid, cheers and say weird. I love everything about this. This is one of those things where week I think, Matt, it was you where it was just like, this has to happen. This has to be a thing someone's thinking about. This is a perfect example of parallel thinking or just seeing a need where it just doesn't make sense for this kind of technology not to exist. Unfortunately, as we know, with many companies, their primary focus isn't necessarily helping the environment. It is more making money for their shareholders and you know, making their bottom line, and of course than some above their bottom line preferably. But this pilot program, we'll get to the Venus project in a bit. That might be bigger discussion for another day. But this program in Portland, Oregon is essentially just that. There is a field known as micro generation where you can essentially funnel pre existing infrastructure, tap pre existing infrastructure into other forms of electrical generation. And we know hydroelectric power is already created by the movement of water. And in the city of Portland they installed a hydropower system that captures energy as water flows through its main pipelines and.

I do like it when things are in the pocket, as they say, which this email most definitely is. Ben You tease it beautifully. Hey, guys, just listen to your most recent strange news episode and I really enjoyed the conversation about converting the heat from the ai GPUs into usable power. I am an electrical technologist who works for a private utility company, and thinking of different methods to harness power into already built infrastructure is something that I love to do. Personally, I would love to see micro generation everywhere, aside from the usual solar panels and wind turbines on roofs. One pilot project caught my eye was run in Portland, Oregon. They tested installing micro water turbines, turbines, turbines whatever, I think, they're interchangeable roughly into the existing water main system. I found the article from good Net to be a decent read. Guys. I linked to that in the dock if you want to take a quick look it is in fact quite a good read coming to us from good Net Gateway to Doing Good, written by Bonnie Reva Rass, the deputy editor there at good Neet. Going on with the email, thinking about all that Rabbit hold me into thinking about the Venus Project, particularly about city design and how we should be developing cities and buildings and incorporate natural geographic features into the design process. I think the Venus Project would make an excellent episode, and I would love to hear you guys do a deep dive and hear your thoughts on it. Anyways, I love the show and all the work you guys put into it kept me company on mini a car ride. Feel free to use this on air. If you guys find any value in it, you can call me side pocket kid, cheers and say weird. I love everything about this. This is one of those things where week I think, Matt, it was you where it was just like, this has to happen. This has to be a thing someone's thinking about. This is a perfect example of parallel thinking or just seeing a need where it just doesn't make sense for this kind of technology not to exist. Unfortunately, as we know, with many companies, their primary focus isn't necessarily helping the environment. It is more making money for their shareholders and you know, making their bottom line, and of course than some above their bottom line preferably. But this pilot program, we'll get to the Venus project in a bit. That might be bigger discussion for another day. But this program in Portland, Oregon is essentially just that. There is a field known as micro generation where you can essentially funnel pre existing infrastructure, tap pre existing infrastructure into other forms of electrical generation. And we know hydroelectric power is already created by the movement of water. And in the city of Portland they installed a hydropower system that captures energy as water flows through its main pipelines and.

Very pollish and hydropower so cool.

Very pollish and hydropower so cool.

Because we know hydropower already exists. I mean, we all went to the Hoover Dam together and that was a thing to behold. And that's like the very definition of industrious thinking behind hydroelectric power. Harnessing the you know, the powers of nature or whatever. Why not build smaller generation sources like this into the water pipes of a city, so every time someone turns on the tap and causes the water to flow or change pressure or what have you. A little bit of electricity is generated and it either goes back into the grid or it's captured or stored or whatever. So let's see unlixular power. The article says, or wind. The system can generate electricity in any weather, anytime, since water is always flowing through them and there's absolutely no impact on water delivery or equality. Here comes a quote from Greg Semer or similar rept CEO of Lucid Energy, the Portland based startup that built the system, and he's speaking to fast companies saying, it's pretty rare to find a new source of energy where there's no environmental impact. But this is inside a pipe, so no fish or endangered species are impacted. That's what's exciting. Lucid Energy designed and installed four of these. Let's see forty two. I'm not sure what this jet with this metric is here. It's it's a it's a way of measuring kilowatt. Yes, okay, got it, thank you. Forty two inch fifty kilt power generating turbine pipes into one of the city's main water lines. The power that it generates is then sent right into the electrical grid, so it's it doesn't even need to be sorted, just adds capacity to the grid. And as we know with all of this AI stuff, the issue there becomes one of capacity where if we don't plan for this stuff, and as we know, you know, with the heat this generated in a lot of places, the climate rather brownouts, rolling power outages can be a thing. I believe Texas was a real offender in that department where there were just like tons of these rolling power outages due to heat there because they didn't do any kind of future proofing to this infrastructure. So, you know, we know Portland is a pretty liberal and technologically forward thinking part of the country, so it kind of makes sense that a pilot program like this would be there. It says here too, since water utilities use a huge amount of electricity, this type of system can make it cheaper to provide water for municipalities that can use the power themselves or sell it as a source of revenue. I do think this is really really interesting. I don't know how exactly we would be able to where folks would be able to accomplish this with harnessing the GPUs, But I don't see how Matt's idea of just adding an additional small turbine to these potentially hundreds of thousands of processors that are generating heat and causing them to spin, couldn't generate some meaningful amount of energy. I don't know, Maybe maybe we go back to that, because it does seem like the question then becomes one of scale and is it worth doing if it's not done on a large enough scale. But this seemed to be like one municipality, one city, and it does seem to be of value. So I don't know. I do think that there's some something to think about here.

Because we know hydropower already exists. I mean, we all went to the Hoover Dam together and that was a thing to behold. And that's like the very definition of industrious thinking behind hydroelectric power. Harnessing the you know, the powers of nature or whatever. Why not build smaller generation sources like this into the water pipes of a city, so every time someone turns on the tap and causes the water to flow or change pressure or what have you. A little bit of electricity is generated and it either goes back into the grid or it's captured or stored or whatever. So let's see unlixular power. The article says, or wind. The system can generate electricity in any weather, anytime, since water is always flowing through them and there's absolutely no impact on water delivery or equality. Here comes a quote from Greg Semer or similar rept CEO of Lucid Energy, the Portland based startup that built the system, and he's speaking to fast companies saying, it's pretty rare to find a new source of energy where there's no environmental impact. But this is inside a pipe, so no fish or endangered species are impacted. That's what's exciting. Lucid Energy designed and installed four of these. Let's see forty two. I'm not sure what this jet with this metric is here. It's it's a it's a way of measuring kilowatt. Yes, okay, got it, thank you. Forty two inch fifty kilt power generating turbine pipes into one of the city's main water lines. The power that it generates is then sent right into the electrical grid, so it's it doesn't even need to be sorted, just adds capacity to the grid. And as we know with all of this AI stuff, the issue there becomes one of capacity where if we don't plan for this stuff, and as we know, you know, with the heat this generated in a lot of places, the climate rather brownouts, rolling power outages can be a thing. I believe Texas was a real offender in that department where there were just like tons of these rolling power outages due to heat there because they didn't do any kind of future proofing to this infrastructure. So, you know, we know Portland is a pretty liberal and technologically forward thinking part of the country, so it kind of makes sense that a pilot program like this would be there. It says here too, since water utilities use a huge amount of electricity, this type of system can make it cheaper to provide water for municipalities that can use the power themselves or sell it as a source of revenue. I do think this is really really interesting. I don't know how exactly we would be able to where folks would be able to accomplish this with harnessing the GPUs, But I don't see how Matt's idea of just adding an additional small turbine to these potentially hundreds of thousands of processors that are generating heat and causing them to spin, couldn't generate some meaningful amount of energy. I don't know, Maybe maybe we go back to that, because it does seem like the question then becomes one of scale and is it worth doing if it's not done on a large enough scale. But this seemed to be like one municipality, one city, and it does seem to be of value. So I don't know. I do think that there's some something to think about here.

Let's just make the GPU's waterproof, put them in the water mains. We'll just ligne our water mains with GPUs. That are all I'm just kidding.

Let's just make the GPU's waterproof, put them in the water mains. We'll just ligne our water mains with GPUs. That are all I'm just kidding.

Oh sorry, no, no, like I Like I said earlier, I think the hydro power is the way to go, you know, if the geography works out similar to geothermal power in Iceland. There's some great fascinating thing. First off side, pocket kid S, if I could be familiar with you, thank you so much.

Oh sorry, no, no, like I Like I said earlier, I think the hydro power is the way to go, you know, if the geography works out similar to geothermal power in Iceland. There's some great fascinating thing. First off side, pocket kid S, if I could be familiar with you, thank you so much.

I've been on a.

I've been on a.

Little rabbit hole about exactly what an electrical technologist does, and I find it amazing and important, so you must also, I'm sure be well aware of the tidal power experiments that we mentioned briefly. I think out in Europe there is tremendous opportunity here. The ideas are to the point and no made earlier side pocket kit. The idea of microgeneration and the threshold of scale is endlessly fascinating to me because it's decentralizing in a way. It's decentralizing some of the power grid. Like if we get a toolkit of microgenerators from all sorts of different energy sources, then we're also we're addressing some of the problems of centralized power sources, and we're addressing the all your chickens and when all your eggs one kind of basket situation, because then if for some reason one kind of power source is no longer as feasible or as viable, then we automatically have some backups baked in. It is an awesome idea. It'd be really cool to roll it out and SPK if you can write to us again and let us know after you hear this, we'll follow up as well. Why do you think this has not been rolled out at a larger scale to Knowle's original question here, because it really could be a game changer, and I think we're all on the same page with that.

Little rabbit hole about exactly what an electrical technologist does, and I find it amazing and important, so you must also, I'm sure be well aware of the tidal power experiments that we mentioned briefly. I think out in Europe there is tremendous opportunity here. The ideas are to the point and no made earlier side pocket kit. The idea of microgeneration and the threshold of scale is endlessly fascinating to me because it's decentralizing in a way. It's decentralizing some of the power grid. Like if we get a toolkit of microgenerators from all sorts of different energy sources, then we're also we're addressing some of the problems of centralized power sources, and we're addressing the all your chickens and when all your eggs one kind of basket situation, because then if for some reason one kind of power source is no longer as feasible or as viable, then we automatically have some backups baked in. It is an awesome idea. It'd be really cool to roll it out and SPK if you can write to us again and let us know after you hear this, we'll follow up as well. Why do you think this has not been rolled out at a larger scale to Knowle's original question here, because it really could be a game changer, and I think we're all on the same page with that.

Well, when I google like harnessing GPU for electric energy generation, the only articles I get are talking about I guess, streamlining the way GPUs consume power. So it does not seem that this is something that is being discussed. And it may And you know, if this individual who wrote to a side pocket kid, you know, has a background and stuff, he didn't immediately say we were full of crap, I do think there might be something to that, you know, and the fact that no one's talking about this it may just be that question of scale, but we know that. Well, here's the thing. I guess what we're talking about is the fans that are in play here are being powered by electricity and designed to cool the GPUs, but we do know they also get really hot, and I'm wondering if there's a way to funnel that heat into some other form of energy, and if there's enough of them happening at the same time, then it maybe could be meaningful. Or maybe it's just not nearly enough. It's a drop in the bucket and we're totally barking up the wrong tree. But it does seem like in the face of this increased demand that there ought to be some quid pro quo way of kind of giving back to the grid, you know, balancing the scales a little bit.

Well, when I google like harnessing GPU for electric energy generation, the only articles I get are talking about I guess, streamlining the way GPUs consume power. So it does not seem that this is something that is being discussed. And it may And you know, if this individual who wrote to a side pocket kid, you know, has a background and stuff, he didn't immediately say we were full of crap, I do think there might be something to that, you know, and the fact that no one's talking about this it may just be that question of scale, but we know that. Well, here's the thing. I guess what we're talking about is the fans that are in play here are being powered by electricity and designed to cool the GPUs, but we do know they also get really hot, and I'm wondering if there's a way to funnel that heat into some other form of energy, and if there's enough of them happening at the same time, then it maybe could be meaningful. Or maybe it's just not nearly enough. It's a drop in the bucket and we're totally barking up the wrong tree. But it does seem like in the face of this increased demand that there ought to be some quid pro quo way of kind of giving back to the grid, you know, balancing the scales a little bit.

Well, it's really tough because you got to first have the idea somehow, then know how to actually implement a prototype, then convince a bunch of investors somewhere either on a city level, state level, a level, a company level. Then you gotta pay a lot of money to make it happen for the first time, and then spread those costs out over you know, years and years and years. So when you're thinking when we're talking about the water main hydro electric generation, you're talking about ben with this article we were looking at, I imagine the costs of actually going in and retrofitting pipes or adding in new pipes so that would have this system in them.

Well, it's really tough because you got to first have the idea somehow, then know how to actually implement a prototype, then convince a bunch of investors somewhere either on a city level, state level, a level, a company level. Then you gotta pay a lot of money to make it happen for the first time, and then spread those costs out over you know, years and years and years. So when you're thinking when we're talking about the water main hydro electric generation, you're talking about ben with this article we were looking at, I imagine the costs of actually going in and retrofitting pipes or adding in new pipes so that would have this system in them.

Especially with aging pipes and infrastructures like we have here in Atlanta or in other parts of the country like in Michigan. Sorry, they're not, no, no, it is a conundrum.

Especially with aging pipes and infrastructures like we have here in Atlanta or in other parts of the country like in Michigan. Sorry, they're not, no, no, it is a conundrum.

You know, it would be tremendously expensive. You'd need an infrastructure bill or something, you know, where there's a bunch of money injected into a system just shout out, I guess to that. But this type of thing we're talking about where you use an existing energy source that is just out there, that is happening all the time, reliably, and maybe even power is used to generate that initial energy source, right, So I'm thinking about in that same place goodnet dot org. There's an article from twenty eighteen about a young inventor who had the idea of setting up these plastic sheets along London's rail lines, which would then flutter in the wind as a train went by, which would generate electricity through the movement of those sheets. Like, how brilliant is that? And why wouldn't Why aren't we doing stuff like that all over the place? Where cars go by on a highway and there's an overpass, you set something up down there that just generates electricity, even if it's small, if you do it enough times, that kind of thing adds up.

You know, it would be tremendously expensive. You'd need an infrastructure bill or something, you know, where there's a bunch of money injected into a system just shout out, I guess to that. But this type of thing we're talking about where you use an existing energy source that is just out there, that is happening all the time, reliably, and maybe even power is used to generate that initial energy source, right, So I'm thinking about in that same place goodnet dot org. There's an article from twenty eighteen about a young inventor who had the idea of setting up these plastic sheets along London's rail lines, which would then flutter in the wind as a train went by, which would generate electricity through the movement of those sheets. Like, how brilliant is that? And why wouldn't Why aren't we doing stuff like that all over the place? Where cars go by on a highway and there's an overpass, you set something up down there that just generates electricity, even if it's small, if you do it enough times, that kind of thing adds up.

Or material science with pavement we studied this, yeah, and car stuff as well, Like going back to the generation of power from tides, it's already there, it's just there, weighs the channel. I would add one important piece of the puzzle that we haven't hit yet. Part of the reason and side pocket kid tell me, tell me how how real this is or how overblown it is, but it seems to be. One of the big stumbling blocks is the is the fact that there are embedded stakeholders who do quite well with the imperfect status quo as it is at this point. So they're the ones you have to not antagonize, but you have to pitch them, and you have to convince them that this is a long term, better aka more profitable concept. And I don't think it's a difficult argument to make. I just personally don't know enough about the ins and outs of the policy horse trading that has to occur to get you know, your Georgia powers or what have you, is your cons on board with something that, in their opinion, might not seem proven at scale. You kind of have to be like the first guy who convinced someone to let them build a skyscraper, you know what I mean. They want to know it's not going to collapse.

Or material science with pavement we studied this, yeah, and car stuff as well, Like going back to the generation of power from tides, it's already there, it's just there, weighs the channel. I would add one important piece of the puzzle that we haven't hit yet. Part of the reason and side pocket kid tell me, tell me how how real this is or how overblown it is, but it seems to be. One of the big stumbling blocks is the is the fact that there are embedded stakeholders who do quite well with the imperfect status quo as it is at this point. So they're the ones you have to not antagonize, but you have to pitch them, and you have to convince them that this is a long term, better aka more profitable concept. And I don't think it's a difficult argument to make. I just personally don't know enough about the ins and outs of the policy horse trading that has to occur to get you know, your Georgia powers or what have you, is your cons on board with something that, in their opinion, might not seem proven at scale. You kind of have to be like the first guy who convinced someone to let them build a skyscraper, you know what I mean. They want to know it's not going to collapse.

I just want to say that I just found you know, it's read it to take it the grain of salt. I don't know this person's credentials, but I'm seeing a few folks chiming in and it doesn't seem this is the most out there perspective on the planet. But this person rift Blade MC on this Reddit thread saying GPUs are almost as efficient as normal electrical heaters. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only converted. The GPU consumes electricity, it converts it into a few types of power. It converts a small portion into sound coil wine, which is a thing. It's a phenomenon where you can actually have an electronic component that generates sounds. It's actually not supposed to happen, but it can happen. It converts a small portion into kinetic energy the fans on the GPU cooler, but almost all of it is converted into heat. GPUs are probably around one percent less efficient at converting electricity into heat than a normal electric heater. There are a few other types of heaters. Some heaters are gas heaters, which are less However, I know that usually cheap gas is cheaper than electric for the same amount of heating, so gas is more cost effective than GPUs. Then there are also heat pumps, which this came up in our previous conversation, which instead of generating heat from energy, they work by extracting heat from the air outside and putting that heat into the air in your room. This allows heat pumps to be the most energy efficient and cost effective. I think there's something to it, guys, I really do. Who do we talk to get them on the cakes? I mean, this is getting me kind of excited because it really does seem like it's a bit of an untapped thing, and people have been having these conversations, so I don't know. I say thank you kindly to UH to a side pocket kid for giving us this way in and I want to I want to hear more about this. Could you even write back to us or maybe leave us a voicemail Side Pocket at A one A through three s td W y t K. Let us know if we're completely barking up the wrong UH microchip when it comes to this idea of the heat that's generated by these and could they be harnessed in a way that is positive. Let us know. We're gonna take quick break here we're from our sponsor and come back with more messages from you.

I just want to say that I just found you know, it's read it to take it the grain of salt. I don't know this person's credentials, but I'm seeing a few folks chiming in and it doesn't seem this is the most out there perspective on the planet. But this person rift Blade MC on this Reddit thread saying GPUs are almost as efficient as normal electrical heaters. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only converted. The GPU consumes electricity, it converts it into a few types of power. It converts a small portion into sound coil wine, which is a thing. It's a phenomenon where you can actually have an electronic component that generates sounds. It's actually not supposed to happen, but it can happen. It converts a small portion into kinetic energy the fans on the GPU cooler, but almost all of it is converted into heat. GPUs are probably around one percent less efficient at converting electricity into heat than a normal electric heater. There are a few other types of heaters. Some heaters are gas heaters, which are less However, I know that usually cheap gas is cheaper than electric for the same amount of heating, so gas is more cost effective than GPUs. Then there are also heat pumps, which this came up in our previous conversation, which instead of generating heat from energy, they work by extracting heat from the air outside and putting that heat into the air in your room. This allows heat pumps to be the most energy efficient and cost effective. I think there's something to it, guys, I really do. Who do we talk to get them on the cakes? I mean, this is getting me kind of excited because it really does seem like it's a bit of an untapped thing, and people have been having these conversations, so I don't know. I say thank you kindly to UH to a side pocket kid for giving us this way in and I want to I want to hear more about this. Could you even write back to us or maybe leave us a voicemail Side Pocket at A one A through three s td W y t K. Let us know if we're completely barking up the wrong UH microchip when it comes to this idea of the heat that's generated by these and could they be harnessed in a way that is positive. Let us know. We're gonna take quick break here we're from our sponsor and come back with more messages from you.

And we've returned Jeff Arnold, we know you're still out there, Marshall brain Ben I was thinking about conversations way back nol I don't think you were here yet. Way back with Marshall Brain about car innovations, specifically in road innovation with like vehicles that would be electric and they'd be powered as they drive, kind of like the way some of the new technology with phones where you can just place a phone, you know, on a surface that will allow it to charge. Yeah, exactly, the exactly with the I don't know whatever works science. That stuff gets me so excited.

And we've returned Jeff Arnold, we know you're still out there, Marshall brain Ben I was thinking about conversations way back nol I don't think you were here yet. Way back with Marshall Brain about car innovations, specifically in road innovation with like vehicles that would be electric and they'd be powered as they drive, kind of like the way some of the new technology with phones where you can just place a phone, you know, on a surface that will allow it to charge. Yeah, exactly, the exactly with the I don't know whatever works science. That stuff gets me so excited.

He's electric materials what they're called.

He's electric materials what they're called.

Yeah, there we go.

Yeah, there we go.

I was super into it a long time ago. So SPK, Yeah, please let us know why it's not happening at a larger scale.

I was super into it a long time ago. So SPK, Yeah, please let us know why it's not happening at a larger scale.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think we all got excited about it back in the day when it was like a thing and it was like a new You're like, whoa, that's gonna be amazing. Well, hey, you know what else people were into back in the day, sitting out by the pool back in twenty fifteen, just like Burker Berserker was. So we're gonna hear a message right now about.

I think we all got excited about it back in the day when it was like a thing and it was like a new You're like, whoa, that's gonna be amazing. Well, hey, you know what else people were into back in the day, sitting out by the pool back in twenty fifteen, just like Burker Berserker was. So we're gonna hear a message right now about.

That irma ger Berker Berserker.

That irma ger Berker Berserker.

Yeah, here we go.

Yeah, here we go.

He Matt ben Nol and super Producers. My name is Burker the Berserker, and I have a UFO or a UAP black triangle sighting to get off my chest. Back in twenty fifteen, when I was around seventeen or eighteen, I was at my neighborhood pool in Oceanside, California. And by the way, the name of the neighborhood is just a capri if you want to look it up on Google Maps. And I was laying down after a mile swim with my legs in the hot sub and staring at the sky. Now this is important. I was laying down with my head pointing south southeast and my legs are pointing north northeast. And then when I was laying there, you know, it was probably nine or ten at night, I saw something like a giant black check mark with seven red almost infrared lights underneath it. You know, it may have been eight because there was that one. There was one light in the very point as well, so there were three red infrared lights glowing on the left side and there were four on the right side, and you know, one in the middle. And it was just so creepy. It made no noise at all. It was around twenty or thirty feet in length, and it moved incredibly slowly, like incredibly slowly. It must have been five or ten miles an hour, and it was roughly forty to fifty feet above me, and it passed directly overhead. And you know, I wasn't I wasn't wearing anything but my boxer shorts or my my Chums trunks at the time. So and it went directly northwest to southeast, directly over me, and I thought that I was being scanned. It looked like I was scanned. At first, I thought it was a drone. But at the height it was, I would have definitely heard the worrying and it made no noise. It was absolutely silent. I really couldn't believe my eyes. I didn't tell anybody about it that night, but the next day I looked it up and I read on black Triangles and it was so eerie but so so cool. Anyways, i'd like to hear what you have to say about it. By the way, I've always enjoyed your show. I'm a longtime listener, and you've always given me virtual comfort when I was driving home alone through the desert for work. And keep up the great contents, keep spreading the truth. I appreciate you all. This is Burger the Berserker Fining off.

He Matt ben Nol and super Producers. My name is Burker the Berserker, and I have a UFO or a UAP black triangle sighting to get off my chest. Back in twenty fifteen, when I was around seventeen or eighteen, I was at my neighborhood pool in Oceanside, California. And by the way, the name of the neighborhood is just a capri if you want to look it up on Google Maps. And I was laying down after a mile swim with my legs in the hot sub and staring at the sky. Now this is important. I was laying down with my head pointing south southeast and my legs are pointing north northeast. And then when I was laying there, you know, it was probably nine or ten at night, I saw something like a giant black check mark with seven red almost infrared lights underneath it. You know, it may have been eight because there was that one. There was one light in the very point as well, so there were three red infrared lights glowing on the left side and there were four on the right side, and you know, one in the middle. And it was just so creepy. It made no noise at all. It was around twenty or thirty feet in length, and it moved incredibly slowly, like incredibly slowly. It must have been five or ten miles an hour, and it was roughly forty to fifty feet above me, and it passed directly overhead. And you know, I wasn't I wasn't wearing anything but my boxer shorts or my my Chums trunks at the time. So and it went directly northwest to southeast, directly over me, and I thought that I was being scanned. It looked like I was scanned. At first, I thought it was a drone. But at the height it was, I would have definitely heard the worrying and it made no noise. It was absolutely silent. I really couldn't believe my eyes. I didn't tell anybody about it that night, but the next day I looked it up and I read on black Triangles and it was so eerie but so so cool. Anyways, i'd like to hear what you have to say about it. By the way, I've always enjoyed your show. I'm a longtime listener, and you've always given me virtual comfort when I was driving home alone through the desert for work. And keep up the great contents, keep spreading the truth. I appreciate you all. This is Burger the Berserker Fining off.

Thanks so much, dude. Wow, what a cool story.

Thanks so much, dude. Wow, what a cool story.

Yes, thank you, Burger. I really appreciate that. I find the comment about the asymmetry or perceived asymmetry as the vehicle quite intriguing.

Yes, thank you, Burger. I really appreciate that. I find the comment about the asymmetry or perceived asymmetry as the vehicle quite intriguing.

Right, was one led just out? Maybe? No the way Burger Berserker described this craft as a check mark, which is really interesting, and it does make you wonder if it's just perception because there was maybe one LED that was not working or one light who knows what the light source was or was it actually you know, differently shaped like that, because that really does change my thoughts on what this thing could have potentially been.

Right, was one led just out? Maybe? No the way Burger Berserker described this craft as a check mark, which is really interesting, and it does make you wonder if it's just perception because there was maybe one LED that was not working or one light who knows what the light source was or was it actually you know, differently shaped like that, because that really does change my thoughts on what this thing could have potentially been.

Do you have a running guess, yeah, oh for sure.

Do you have a running guess, yeah, oh for sure.

I was thinking just because of where that part is. Did you guys look up ocean side California. Ocean side California is well, I mean it's right on the coast, so it's not like interior California it is I don't know, let's say it's in between San Diego and Los Angeles, closer to San Diego, much closer actually.

I was thinking just because of where that part is. Did you guys look up ocean side California. Ocean side California is well, I mean it's right on the coast, so it's not like interior California it is I don't know, let's say it's in between San Diego and Los Angeles, closer to San Diego, much closer actually.

Right down the way from Carlsbad, right.

Right down the way from Carlsbad, right.

Yes, exactly exactly. And you know this this Pacific coast over here, there's a lot of activity from the US military, from the Navy, but most of it, will you guys tell me, I'm aware of most of that activity happening closer up to San Francisco, and then closer maybe down towards San Diego, but I don't know, maybe something passing by or through there. It's interesting how specific Berserker is about the direction right northeast, legs pointing northeast, head pointing south southeast, and then the way this thing traveled from northwest to southeast. Because if we're talking from this location northwest, that's along the coast, pretty much like heading up the United States, and then heading southeast, that's heading down towards Mexico. I don't know, do you guys have any thoughts on that. I just really liked the story.

Yes, exactly exactly. And you know this this Pacific coast over here, there's a lot of activity from the US military, from the Navy, but most of it, will you guys tell me, I'm aware of most of that activity happening closer up to San Francisco, and then closer maybe down towards San Diego, but I don't know, maybe something passing by or through there. It's interesting how specific Berserker is about the direction right northeast, legs pointing northeast, head pointing south southeast, and then the way this thing traveled from northwest to southeast. Because if we're talking from this location northwest, that's along the coast, pretty much like heading up the United States, and then heading southeast, that's heading down towards Mexico. I don't know, do you guys have any thoughts on that. I just really liked the story.

One of the first things to do here, or what I would do if writing an episode on this, would be obviously, and Matt you've probably already done this. You have as well. I imagine Burger look up the closest Air Force baces or closest compounds for experimental craft. That's one, you know, you build out the references. The weird thing is increasingly it was a little more skeptical in this back in earlier evenings. But the weird thing is, there are provably strange things in the sky. There are real UAP or what we would call UFOs. This doesn't mean they're necessarily aliens, doesn't mean they're necessarily all top secret, you know, skunk works projects, but there's definitely stuff out there. One thing that we are always careful to do, and it's a core tenant of our mission is not to dismiss a siding out of hands, because that's incredibly unhelpful. Matt, did you get a chance to speak with Burker directly for any guesses on his part?

One of the first things to do here, or what I would do if writing an episode on this, would be obviously, and Matt you've probably already done this. You have as well. I imagine Burger look up the closest Air Force baces or closest compounds for experimental craft. That's one, you know, you build out the references. The weird thing is increasingly it was a little more skeptical in this back in earlier evenings. But the weird thing is, there are provably strange things in the sky. There are real UAP or what we would call UFOs. This doesn't mean they're necessarily aliens, doesn't mean they're necessarily all top secret, you know, skunk works projects, but there's definitely stuff out there. One thing that we are always careful to do, and it's a core tenant of our mission is not to dismiss a siding out of hands, because that's incredibly unhelpful. Matt, did you get a chance to speak with Burker directly for any guesses on his part?

No, I did not, But well along those lines, my guesses were Camp Pendleton, which is a pretty big name, something we've heard before on the show. Even if you're not, you know, close to military or have been in the military before, Camp Pendleton is a big deal. It is just I guess it would be northwest of this area, actually just northwest of this specific Vista Caapri neighborhood in Oceanside, California, which you know, there's a Marine Air Support squadron hanging out right over there, the old you know airport that's for military use only. There's also a raising canes by the way, on that on Camp Pendleton, just like.

No, I did not, But well along those lines, my guesses were Camp Pendleton, which is a pretty big name, something we've heard before on the show. Even if you're not, you know, close to military or have been in the military before, Camp Pendleton is a big deal. It is just I guess it would be northwest of this area, actually just northwest of this specific Vista Caapri neighborhood in Oceanside, California, which you know, there's a Marine Air Support squadron hanging out right over there, the old you know airport that's for military use only. There's also a raising canes by the way, on that on Camp Pendleton, just like.

I didn't realize that place was so like Bloodard.

I didn't realize that place was so like Bloodard.

Yeah, there's a large Department of Homeland Security building that is right on the coast basically if you headed straight to the co from the house where Berserker was. I don't know the shape, you guys, I want to know more about that shape? Call in have you? Has anybody heard of a check mark shaped craft like that? Because it makes me think about some of the symbolism that companies use.

Yeah, there's a large Department of Homeland Security building that is right on the coast basically if you headed straight to the co from the house where Berserker was. I don't know the shape, you guys, I want to know more about that shape? Call in have you? Has anybody heard of a check mark shaped craft like that? Because it makes me think about some of the symbolism that companies use.

You know, we talk.

You know, we talk.

About the well we have talked about before on the show, the shape of the NASA on their logo. There's that little wisp kind of thing that's on there, and what that actually represented. What this the Nike thing actually may have been a couple other things like that about shapes of craft and shapes of you know or potential craft. Right, there's cool stuff out there. What's the check.

About the well we have talked about before on the show, the shape of the NASA on their logo. There's that little wisp kind of thing that's on there, and what that actually represented. What this the Nike thing actually may have been a couple other things like that about shapes of craft and shapes of you know or potential craft. Right, there's cool stuff out there. What's the check.

Mark right to us? Especially if you were piloting the check mark?

Mark right to us? Especially if you were piloting the check mark?

Oh yeah, oh man from the CLB thirteenth Armory. I don't know why they would be flying something like that though, classic CLB. All right, so hey, let's jump to another quick message here. This time from no One in particular. Guys, I didn't know this, and I've always put in our voicemail system as no space one in particular. We got an email from this person and it is no one like NWN, no One, no One.

Oh yeah, oh man from the CLB thirteenth Armory. I don't know why they would be flying something like that though, classic CLB. All right, so hey, let's jump to another quick message here. This time from no One in particular. Guys, I didn't know this, and I've always put in our voicemail system as no space one in particular. We got an email from this person and it is no one like NWN, no One, no One.

In particular and Roan but no one.

In particular and Roan but no one.

Exactly exactly like Rowan but no One. And this person that we have come to know and love, had a quick comment on something we were talking about about the speed of life when we were just kind of briefly mentioning that, and all I think you brought that up. Uh So here is no One's message.

Exactly exactly like Rowan but no One. And this person that we have come to know and love, had a quick comment on something we were talking about about the speed of life when we were just kind of briefly mentioning that, and all I think you brought that up. Uh So here is no One's message.

This is no One in particular and as usual, you are welcome to use this. No One mentioned apparent fluctuation in the passage of time between being young and being old, and it's far more than a parent I'm sure you're about to mention, but I'd like to give you my little take on it, which is that when you're vibe, year is twenty percent of your life, whereas now that I'm fifty, it's only two percent and seems to fly by. Just something I thought about one day. You guys have a great showy man.

This is no One in particular and as usual, you are welcome to use this. No One mentioned apparent fluctuation in the passage of time between being young and being old, and it's far more than a parent I'm sure you're about to mention, but I'd like to give you my little take on it, which is that when you're vibe, year is twenty percent of your life, whereas now that I'm fifty, it's only two percent and seems to fly by. Just something I thought about one day. You guys have a great showy man.

I love that.

I love that.

It makes me think of like the idea of dog years, you know, the idea of like, what is the typical span of a life and how does that compress and contract to a being that inherently does not live as long as a human being. And I think the answer is simple. It's it's it's it's hugely important. Weeds as humans are able to perceive it much more palpably than obviously a dog or a cat, you know, or the lizards live a really long time like alligators. But I do think that matters, and like, how much of your life have you lived, and as you live longer, that percentage changes, doesn't it. That's I think that's I can't believe I've never quite thought.

It makes me think of like the idea of dog years, you know, the idea of like, what is the typical span of a life and how does that compress and contract to a being that inherently does not live as long as a human being. And I think the answer is simple. It's it's it's it's hugely important. Weeds as humans are able to perceive it much more palpably than obviously a dog or a cat, you know, or the lizards live a really long time like alligators. But I do think that matters, and like, how much of your life have you lived, and as you live longer, that percentage changes, doesn't it. That's I think that's I can't believe I've never quite thought.

About it like that before. It's well put. I think that is just yabe. That's what I really appreci shot about it, and it makes you think about things different. I was thinking about my son's life and just you know, he was talking about how the summers are feeling shorter, right and he's only eight, Like, oh man.

About it like that before. It's well put. I think that is just yabe. That's what I really appreci shot about it, and it makes you think about things different. I was thinking about my son's life and just you know, he was talking about how the summers are feeling shorter, right and he's only eight, Like, oh man.

Sorry, that's sad. Thing that is so poetically melancholy, you know, the summer is the seeming.

Sorry, that's sad. Thing that is so poetically melancholy, you know, the summer is the seeming.

Well just basically commenting how it feels like it's going by fast. But in the end. For his perception, it's actually good because he's done a lot this summer. Right back in the day, summers were a lot less filled with going places and doing things and traveling. I think it means hopefully that his life is more full than.

Well just basically commenting how it feels like it's going by fast. But in the end. For his perception, it's actually good because he's done a lot this summer. Right back in the day, summers were a lot less filled with going places and doing things and traveling. I think it means hopefully that his life is more full than.

It was before.

It was before.

At least that's the way I often think about it when I think about how quick stuff goes. Think about, guys, do you ever get that feeling when you look at our listener mail Strange News doc just about how many episodes of this particular thing we have done? And it to me, the perception is that we just started making these episodes.

At least that's the way I often think about it when I think about how quick stuff goes. Think about, guys, do you ever get that feeling when you look at our listener mail Strange News doc just about how many episodes of this particular thing we have done? And it to me, the perception is that we just started making these episodes.

I still can't believe that what I was doing the daily Strange News, I can't believe how many like that was years ago now, right.

I still can't believe that what I was doing the daily Strange News, I can't believe how many like that was years ago now, right.

Ben did start this, well, this whole set of segments as as it's open show.

Ben did start this, well, this whole set of segments as as it's open show.

I saw something that compiled the number of total stuff they don't want you to know episodes or segments that we have. And it's crazy because folks in full transparency. I think one time we tried to count them and we could. I don't remember if we could figure it out. Did we ever nail down to write the correct thing? I can't remember.

I saw something that compiled the number of total stuff they don't want you to know episodes or segments that we have. And it's crazy because folks in full transparency. I think one time we tried to count them and we could. I don't remember if we could figure it out. Did we ever nail down to write the correct thing? I can't remember.

I don't know. The number is I think less impressive to me. I mean it it's obviously an artifact of this phenomenon that we're describing. But it's like every time I see it's it's the ten year anniversary of X record that was like a big deal to me or whatever, and I'm like, no, no, that's the new one, that's the new Arcade Fire record. You know, like, oh my god, to think too about things like nineteen ninety is as far away from now as like nineteen twenty was from nineteen, you know, sixty or whatever. I mean, I'm bad at math, but you see what I'm saying. It's all about where you stand and your perception of time, and it does change as you get older, but not always for the worse. I would argue, I don't know, necessarily feel like my life is slipping away. I feel like in a lot of ways I'm able to enjoy it a little more and really, you know, kind of lean in and sort of make a meal of it. I don't know why I don't always feel like it's a negative thing. It just is a phenomenon that I find very.

I don't know. The number is I think less impressive to me. I mean it it's obviously an artifact of this phenomenon that we're describing. But it's like every time I see it's it's the ten year anniversary of X record that was like a big deal to me or whatever, and I'm like, no, no, that's the new one, that's the new Arcade Fire record. You know, like, oh my god, to think too about things like nineteen ninety is as far away from now as like nineteen twenty was from nineteen, you know, sixty or whatever. I mean, I'm bad at math, but you see what I'm saying. It's all about where you stand and your perception of time, and it does change as you get older, but not always for the worse. I would argue, I don't know, necessarily feel like my life is slipping away. I feel like in a lot of ways I'm able to enjoy it a little more and really, you know, kind of lean in and sort of make a meal of it. I don't know why I don't always feel like it's a negative thing. It just is a phenomenon that I find very.

Remarkable, and I also, in particular love the percentage observation there. I think that is quite well put and quite astute. We're a big fan of yours over on this show. Also want to point out that I was reading this fascinating study on the nature of regret as people age, right when you when you get counted as elderly in a different population or culture, and people don't regret things as often as we might assume, like when you're a younger person and you think, oh, this is the worst, this is the worst thing. You know, I got an F on a test, or I didn't get the you know, I didn't get my jury duty audition or whatever. And I think it's really important to remember that these things that can seem very big in the moment, often people look back they don't feel that they were led wrong, or they don't feel that it was a mistake. So, without at the risk of sounding soaboxy and or trite, it's very important to remember that because you have a problem with one tree, it doesn't mean the entire forest is bad. And sometimes the only way out of a situation is through that situation. So we've got your back. Don't break laws. We're required to say, don't break laws, but I think it's just important to hear that sometimes that even when things seem that their most dire and their most dark, there's always something worth sticking around for.

Remarkable, and I also, in particular love the percentage observation there. I think that is quite well put and quite astute. We're a big fan of yours over on this show. Also want to point out that I was reading this fascinating study on the nature of regret as people age, right when you when you get counted as elderly in a different population or culture, and people don't regret things as often as we might assume, like when you're a younger person and you think, oh, this is the worst, this is the worst thing. You know, I got an F on a test, or I didn't get the you know, I didn't get my jury duty audition or whatever. And I think it's really important to remember that these things that can seem very big in the moment, often people look back they don't feel that they were led wrong, or they don't feel that it was a mistake. So, without at the risk of sounding soaboxy and or trite, it's very important to remember that because you have a problem with one tree, it doesn't mean the entire forest is bad. And sometimes the only way out of a situation is through that situation. So we've got your back. Don't break laws. We're required to say, don't break laws, but I think it's just important to hear that sometimes that even when things seem that their most dire and their most dark, there's always something worth sticking around for.

That's right, got a bad tree, Chop that down. Ah, I'm just choking out on it. Don't do it. Don't hurt the trees. We need the trees, all right. Well, thanks so much, and hey, if you've got something to say, you want to call us, we'll tell you how to do that at the end of this episode. Thanks so much to everybody.

That's right, got a bad tree, Chop that down. Ah, I'm just choking out on it. Don't do it. Don't hurt the trees. We need the trees, all right. Well, thanks so much, and hey, if you've got something to say, you want to call us, we'll tell you how to do that at the end of this episode. Thanks so much to everybody.

Else. A frame.

Else. A frame.

We got one for you in the docket for this episode, but we're going to get to it at a different time. I'll just quickly mention it here. He came to us with some real world experience about why certain insurance companies are moving out of certain areas, so I think maybe we can use that for a further exploration on that subject. But it was not what you would think. He lives in an area where wildfires have traditionally been the problem. It's not the wildfires that are making it untenable for or at least the perception of being unt tenable to have insurance in certain areas for these insurance companies. It's some compounded. Other problem that's added on to what they usually already are paying, you know, paying out for wildfires in an area that's susceptible to those is when there's now flooding in that area too, and they're like, now we got to get out of here. Or in his case, I think it was hailstorms or something. It was something crazy. What All right, that's different. Now we'll be right back with more messages from you.

We got one for you in the docket for this episode, but we're going to get to it at a different time. I'll just quickly mention it here. He came to us with some real world experience about why certain insurance companies are moving out of certain areas, so I think maybe we can use that for a further exploration on that subject. But it was not what you would think. He lives in an area where wildfires have traditionally been the problem. It's not the wildfires that are making it untenable for or at least the perception of being unt tenable to have insurance in certain areas for these insurance companies. It's some compounded. Other problem that's added on to what they usually already are paying, you know, paying out for wildfires in an area that's susceptible to those is when there's now flooding in that area too, and they're like, now we got to get out of here. Or in his case, I think it was hailstorms or something. It was something crazy. What All right, that's different. Now we'll be right back with more messages from you.

And we have returned with a couple of things that was squirreling away from a conversation with a good friend of the show, Rebel on Instagram. I almost didn't want to bring these up. Some of these are not news, so it might hold them for a different show that we do. But Rebel wrote to us recently with something that absolutely blew my mind. Nazi drugs or sweeping Europe Nazi drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's get into it before before you get to our speed. Even weirder MDMA, which you don't usually associate with the Militant for Right of Neo Nazis, but this has been happening for a number of years. Apparently at the end of twenty twenty three, we'll go to Vice for this excellent article by Simon Doherty. The end of twenty twenty three, police in the Netherlands pulled over a guy in a car who ignored a stop sign. He was not an autonomous driver. He was driving, and the cops quickly noticed three things. One his license is not valid, no good. Two he's clearly high on something. And three in the passenger seat, in the shotgun seat right next to him is this huge bag, like a trash bag of ecstasy pills that are all stamped with Nazi branding, with Nazi insignia. It's the eagle symbol from the actual facts Nazis, as our Palor and vocal Bam would say.

And we have returned with a couple of things that was squirreling away from a conversation with a good friend of the show, Rebel on Instagram. I almost didn't want to bring these up. Some of these are not news, so it might hold them for a different show that we do. But Rebel wrote to us recently with something that absolutely blew my mind. Nazi drugs or sweeping Europe Nazi drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's get into it before before you get to our speed. Even weirder MDMA, which you don't usually associate with the Militant for Right of Neo Nazis, but this has been happening for a number of years. Apparently at the end of twenty twenty three, we'll go to Vice for this excellent article by Simon Doherty. The end of twenty twenty three, police in the Netherlands pulled over a guy in a car who ignored a stop sign. He was not an autonomous driver. He was driving, and the cops quickly noticed three things. One his license is not valid, no good. Two he's clearly high on something. And three in the passenger seat, in the shotgun seat right next to him is this huge bag, like a trash bag of ecstasy pills that are all stamped with Nazi branding, with Nazi insignia. It's the eagle symbol from the actual facts Nazis, as our Palor and vocal Bam would say.

Those were really popular nineties rave culture. Man. You had the Mitsubishies, the Pokemon and the Nazi Eagles. Those were the real banger what they call them rolls.

Those were really popular nineties rave culture. Man. You had the Mitsubishies, the Pokemon and the Nazi Eagles. Those were the real banger what they call them rolls.

Right right, and so this the symbol. You can find this article easily. The symbol was, as we know, developed by the Nazi Party in the twenties, sometimes called the Imperial Eagle. They also found in addition to these Nazi tablets, the cops found half a kilogram of weed or cannabis and one hundred grams of cocaine. I don't know enough about cocaine to know if one hundred grams is a lot, but it sounds like a lot.

Right right, and so this the symbol. You can find this article easily. The symbol was, as we know, developed by the Nazi Party in the twenties, sometimes called the Imperial Eagle. They also found in addition to these Nazi tablets, the cops found half a kilogram of weed or cannabis and one hundred grams of cocaine. I don't know enough about cocaine to know if one hundred grams is a lot, but it sounds like a lot.

Is it a lot?

Is it a lot?

It's a lot?

It's a lot?

A lot. It's like, what's a kilo? A kilo is I'm bad at weights and measures in addition to math they mentioned earlier, But a kilo tends to be the standard brick of you know what, you would be a unit of the largest quantity you have, like a giant, you know, quantity of kilos in a smuggling operation, a plane or what have you. But a kilo would be the smallest units of that.

A lot. It's like, what's a kilo? A kilo is I'm bad at weights and measures in addition to math they mentioned earlier, But a kilo tends to be the standard brick of you know what, you would be a unit of the largest quantity you have, like a giant, you know, quantity of kilos in a smuggling operation, a plane or what have you. But a kilo would be the smallest units of that.

If you're moving weight, right, Yeah, akilo is two point two pounds, So if this is half a kilo, that'd be like a little over a pound. Still, that's a lot of that's a lot of weak, you know, for your afternoon drive. It seems like he was probably going somewhere instead of just taking a fun road trip to get out in the open road. It's strange because furthermore we found here and revel thank you again for hippiness to this. This was not an isolated incident. It appears that there are there is a trend of illegal drugs going out through Europe stamped with Nazi insignia, and just to me, it's so confusing because you know, I'm I'm okay, I'm kind of square though in full, in full honesty, I don't know what the effects of ecstasy are like experientially or MDMA, but I always pictured it as sort of a more lovey dovey thing.

If you're moving weight, right, Yeah, akilo is two point two pounds, So if this is half a kilo, that'd be like a little over a pound. Still, that's a lot of that's a lot of weak, you know, for your afternoon drive. It seems like he was probably going somewhere instead of just taking a fun road trip to get out in the open road. It's strange because furthermore we found here and revel thank you again for hippiness to this. This was not an isolated incident. It appears that there are there is a trend of illegal drugs going out through Europe stamped with Nazi insignia, and just to me, it's so confusing because you know, I'm I'm okay, I'm kind of square though in full, in full honesty, I don't know what the effects of ecstasy are like experientially or MDMA, but I always pictured it as sort of a more lovey dovey thing.

Well, that's funny you should say that, Ben. Just this immediately made me think of a song by a kind of jam band supergroup called oyster Head, which was Les Claypool from Primus on the bass, Trey Anastasio from Fish on the guitar, and Stuart Copeland from the Police on the drums. And I think they maybe had two albums, but on their first album they have a song called Armies on Ecstasy, and the lyric is the Army's on Ecstasy. So they say, I read all about it in USA today they stepped up urine testing to make it go away because it's hard to kill the enemy on old MDMA. Because, yes, to your point, Ben, it does give you the love vibes. It's a real love fest. That's the whole point of MDMA. It's not conducive to berserker type behavior.

Well, that's funny you should say that, Ben. Just this immediately made me think of a song by a kind of jam band supergroup called oyster Head, which was Les Claypool from Primus on the bass, Trey Anastasio from Fish on the guitar, and Stuart Copeland from the Police on the drums. And I think they maybe had two albums, but on their first album they have a song called Armies on Ecstasy, and the lyric is the Army's on Ecstasy. So they say, I read all about it in USA today they stepped up urine testing to make it go away because it's hard to kill the enemy on old MDMA. Because, yes, to your point, Ben, it does give you the love vibes. It's a real love fest. That's the whole point of MDMA. It's not conducive to berserker type behavior.

Yeah, sorry, Burger, but this is yeah, okay, So I'm glad to know that perception of from the outside looking in is correct. The folks advice stumble on what may well be a conspiracy regarding this the idea. We know that there's kind of a what the boffins we'll call a far right surge in Europe like the political theater there. We also know that France got really close to having a fascist government, just like.

Yeah, sorry, Burger, but this is yeah, okay, So I'm glad to know that perception of from the outside looking in is correct. The folks advice stumble on what may well be a conspiracy regarding this the idea. We know that there's kind of a what the boffins we'll call a far right surge in Europe like the political theater there. We also know that France got really close to having a fascist government, just like.

Last the other day.

Last the other day.

Yeah, so excuse the voice.

Yeah, so excuse the voice.

There by the way, apparently when she lost, which the internet is making hay with, you know, which I'm fully behind.

There by the way, apparently when she lost, which the internet is making hay with, you know, which I'm fully behind.

But you know it's it's a big deal to everybody who runs for any kind of political office, to be fair. But here's the possible conspiracy. What if this far right surge is being sort of buoyed up by being associated with fun drugs? What if this is like an underground pr propaganda campaign for lack of a better word. Do we think that's possible. I'm honestly asking because I think it could be a brilliant move for politicians in the US.

But you know it's it's a big deal to everybody who runs for any kind of political office, to be fair. But here's the possible conspiracy. What if this far right surge is being sort of buoyed up by being associated with fun drugs? What if this is like an underground pr propaganda campaign for lack of a better word. Do we think that's possible. I'm honestly asking because I think it could be a brilliant move for politicians in the US.

I don't think I quite follow to what end exactly like propaganda in whose favor.

I don't think I quite follow to what end exactly like propaganda in whose favor.

To get people to support far right or Nazi like ideology by being associated.

To get people to support far right or Nazi like ideology by being associated.

With something good vibes. Yeah, okay, I follow you. I'm picking up what you're putting down. Yeah, in the parlance of you.

With something good vibes. Yeah, okay, I follow you. I'm picking up what you're putting down. Yeah, in the parlance of you.

Know, the hippies popping beans and crosses, that's what we do here.

Know, the hippies popping beans and crosses, that's what we do here.

Clarence Thomas can't be all bad. Look at how much weed he gave me earlier.

Clarence Thomas can't be all bad. Look at how much weed he gave me earlier.

But it was total dirt weed though, had stems in it and seeds and everything.

But it was total dirt weed though, had stems in it and seeds and everything.

And he just got it from some guy as a gift.

And he just got it from some guy as a gift.

Yeah, next time, we're just texting alido.

Yeah, next time, we're just texting alido.

But the bales of the stuff.

But the bales of the stuff.

The bales of it. So it appears that this trend has extended to the supply of cocaine as well. In twenty twenty three, some folks that apport in northern Peru caught some smugglers and these guys have fifty eight kilograms of cocaine destined for Belgium. And to your point about transportational, each individual kilo was wrapped in Nazi regalia, which is not the most subtle way to sneak stuff through international borders. Please don't look at my Nazi ricks.

The bales of it. So it appears that this trend has extended to the supply of cocaine as well. In twenty twenty three, some folks that apport in northern Peru caught some smugglers and these guys have fifty eight kilograms of cocaine destined for Belgium. And to your point about transportational, each individual kilo was wrapped in Nazi regalia, which is not the most subtle way to sneak stuff through international borders. Please don't look at my Nazi ricks.

Yes without the insignia stamped into the powder. That doesn't seem very smart or very likely. But again, at the time though, they sort of had cart blots to do whatever they wanted, and maybe they were just like really just didn't give it f you know.

Yes without the insignia stamped into the powder. That doesn't seem very smart or very likely. But again, at the time though, they sort of had cart blots to do whatever they wanted, and maybe they were just like really just didn't give it f you know.

Yeah, maybe there's some internal logic, like the.

Yeah, maybe there's some internal logic, like the.

Nazis would have loved cocaine. I mean, I'm just saying like that. We know about them taking amphetamines. You don't really hear much about cocaine per se, but amphetamines was just the order of the day. I mean, everyone was taking that stuff, you know, the pilots. Hitler apparently it.

Nazis would have loved cocaine. I mean, I'm just saying like that. We know about them taking amphetamines. You don't really hear much about cocaine per se, but amphetamines was just the order of the day. I mean, everyone was taking that stuff, you know, the pilots. Hitler apparently it.

Was like one of his main things. It was not his main thing, but it was one of his things.

Was like one of his main things. It was not his main thing, but it was one of his things.

But we also had another main thing.

But we also had another main thing.

Yeah, he had another main thing. There's We also know that authorities are still trying to suss out this international conspiracy because they're not sure whether this kind of branding was ordered by neo Nazi gangs who are selling drugs, or whether it's unaffiliated drug gangs that have Neo Nazis as their prime demographica customer. They really don't know, but we do know this seems to be a continuing trend. So I want to thank vice again, think you rebel because we didn't see a lot of news about this or I don't know, had you guys heard about this beforehand?