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We're going to we're gonna hear from Tall Pockets, We're gonna hear from Jasper to returning conspiracy realists, and then we're also going to give a shout out to some residents of our Facebook page. Here's where it gets crazy, Justin and Joe. Uh, we're getting into some weird stuff. Hatchet drones, telekinesis no fooling true story. Maybe a little bit about industrial cloning, but we thought we're better to start than our all the magnificent responses that we've had to our recent segment on the breakthrough rectal cancer cure, which it does appear to be. Yeah, I think the best way to say it is thank you to everyone who wrote in. In some cases we have to protect your anonymity, which we hold sacker sinct. But for everyone who has given us con sent to share their stories beyond the lookout for a future listener male segment that will focus entirely on the Big Sea for now. Um, Matt, I think you and I both were very taken uh with the wonderfully written correspondence from our collague Jasper. That's right, Jasper wrote to us after we were speaking. I guess about immunologies. How you say it, Jasper, That's what it is. I think Euroada was with a with an awesome visualization of some of the things we were talking about. We're talking about antibodies, were specifically talking about receptors and what an antibody does, how it functions, and then how the immune system within each of our bodies reacts when certain organisms, let's say, are marked by antibodies. So let's get into this. I'm just gonna begin on your second paragraph, just so you're aware, jas Spur, you said, So, imagine your body is a walled off city. You have millions of little buildings. These are cells within your walls, which is your skin, and your immune system patrols the city and it destroys anything that A shouldn't be there or B has begun breaking down or aged out of usefulness. Makes sense, right, this is me talking. We've got our city that is our body, and uh, your immune system is the patrol. So you have an intelligence department, which are B cells, and an operations department, which are T cells. There are some additional special forces mixed in, but B cells and T cells are the most common types in the mix be intelligence, T operations. T cells out number B cells by quite a few because they act as the ground troops. Right, These are the officers on the ground. The B i A, as Jasper has put it, or the B cell intelligence agency is constantly circulating surveillance drones the things that we call antibodies. It's really interesting to me to think about antibodies as surveillance drones, right, I think that's amazing. Uh So, these drones have the ability to perfectly distinguish intruders from residents of your walled in city. When they find an intruder, they latch onto it, and depending on where they grab the intruder, the drones can either slow it down, incapacitate or neutralize it, or simply stick on it without impacting the intruders function whatsoever. Here's where the T cells come in, you guys. And this is part of the explanation that really made sense to me. The drones or antibodies act as flags for the immune system, even if they don't neutralize the threat as they can sometimes, and antibody helps T cells the troops on the ground find the intruder's location. Anything marked with an antibody is destroyed with prejudice. As Jasper says, if it's a virus, the virus is quote eaten and chopped up to send around as a way to train the rest of the T cells to recognize that particular bad thing that was found in the body. It also sends it to the B cells, which is again the intelligence system. Right, So the troops on the ground understand it, and the intelligence system that is sending out signals understands it. If it's a bacteria, it's eaten and chopped up or punctured and quote popped or attacked with enzymes and hydrogen peroxide. It's weird to think there's hydrogen peroxide just inside of us and it's part of our immune system. So, first of all, guys, just with that explanation, uh, it's the first time I was ever able to really visualize what is going on inside my body, And to be honest, it freaks me out. It seems way more organized. Isn't it intelligent that I want to give my body credit for. We've talked about this idea though, when you just look at the ratio of bacterial cells to human cells, your your body is much more like a city. We've talked about this in the past, and it applies very very well. If your body is a city, are you like the governor of your city or are you just you're literally like the infrastructure, You're the spiritianic city, your middle Gaya. Yeah, it's like you're the spirit of St. Louis. Kinda um, but that's you know, and I don't want to divert us by getting into too much metaphysical philosophical stuff. But but you can tell, you can always tell someone knows what they're talking about and is a good communicator when they communicate via analogy. It's one of the best ways to accurately explain, uh, concepts that could otherwise be outside someone's realm of expertise. So I just want to say massive thanks to Jasper. Also, I think your name is very cool. You don't run into a lot of Jaspers these days experience, except for you, Jasper. So you continue here. And because we're talking about cancer, which is a really interesting part of the body when it arises, because it's generally cancers, there's so many different types and forms of cancer and specifications. It's just so many. Uh. It's It's interesting though, because it is a part of your body that is malforming, it's changing, it's mutating, but it is still your body. So how does your immune system react to it? Well, let's get into that, because you do, Jasper, you say, so, if everything is working fine, the b Cell Intelligence Agency won't be producing any drones or anybodies against any piece of the city that's supposed to be there. If it does, that's the base of an autoimmune disorder. A tumor cell often makes damaged mutated proteins that don't quite match what the b i A recognizes as self. So most tumor cells are killed almost as soon as they form. When a tumor cells mutated protein slips past the b i a's radar. Though a tumor establishes itself, that's the bad stuff, that's the malignant thing that's going to continue growing. That is no bueno, uh, Jasper. You continue, most cancer treatments act either like bombs that can destroy any part of the city, or as a shutdown that prevents any part of the city from easily repairing itself. Healthy cells can sort of keep functioning, but they're still prevented from replicating and repairing like normal. Cancer cells that respond to such chemotherapy can't continue to function with that kind of treatment. And here, Jasper, is where you get into that specific strange news story where we were talking about the miraculous twelve people that were cured of correctal cancer, and we specifically mentioned this thing called p D one, uh, the protein PD one. So you talk specifically about this, you say, the monoclonal antibody covered in today's six thirteen Strange News episode is p D one blockade. P D one is a protein on a T cell one of these ground troops. When it connects to p d L one, which is a protein displayed on some human cells, it tells the T cell not to attack. If a tumor cell can make this protein, then any T cell that tries to come and attack it will instead be told to stand down. It's like knowing the security code or the secret handshake. Yeah, it's cool. Somebody's got your back and they wrote in and they say hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Yeah yeah, um so, so I'm just gonna continue with Jake really quick. Guys, We're almost done here. Uh, Jesper says. The antibody treatment blocks that interaction, that specific interaction that we just mentioned. Most healthy cells will have a number of other immune checkpoints that prevent the immune system from attacking them. But it's looking like this specific type of rectal cancer doesn't have enough to keep itself disguised. Once it can't maintain the disguise, the immune system recognizes the tumors rebel forces and goes on the offensive. Because the B cells didn't produce these antibodies. The immune system won't remember how to make these antibodies in the future. They are constantly making random antibody shapes and keep notes of which ones work so they can keep the instructions. God, that's crazy to me. Because they don't have the original notes on how to make the PD one antibody. They can't make more, which is probably good. We don't want to permanently hobble all our other cells. White flag functions. That's interesting. White flag functions as in, like this is good, don't worry about this one. Um, thank you, Jasper for that. You end on this note fun cell name. One type of cell that's important in controlling tumors is the natural killer cell mm hmm, and then you end by saying all the best, Jasper, So thank you so much for writing in telling us that. I hope I said your words correctly in your sentence structures because they are really well put together and it's easy to understand on the page. I hope that came across for everybody else, anybody out there listening that has this kind of detailed explanation for something that's very, very difficult to understand for a lay person. We highly recommend you send it our way because we want to hear it. Always love it. We love to share these two, you know, and thinking of um all the doctors and the pilots who have written to us people in very specific areas of national defense or academia. This is this is one of the reasons we do this show is to be able to learn more ourselves. So thank you so much, and everyone keep the letters coming regarding the ongoing cancer research. We would want to hear from you. So with that, we're going to take a break and we'll be right back with more messages from you. And we're back with another message from you, the conspiracy realists of the world. This one comes from a very special, recurring conspiracy realist that goes by the name the incredibly Delightful a k a. Tall Pockets. I'm just gonna read this whole email. It's a fascinating story, fascinating scenario, and I think that we can just discuss. Hey, guys, call me Tall Pockets and let me begin by saying I'm pretty sure my search history got flagged for looking into this one. We were having a lovely dinner with my boyfriend's parents and his mom was telling us about work that week, work for her as portrait photography, and she told us about some professional headshots she had just done that really stood out to her. Why, she said. The man she was photographing started assembling his invention to be in the photos with him. He told her he had designed it and the government had bought the designs. Isn't that top secret? She asked, not anymore, he responded. She started describing to us what it looked like and what she thought it was, saying she was told it was for surveillance. Is it a bomb? She asked the man. No, No, it's definitely not a bomb, except it probably is. The device is called Hatchet, and yes, when I googled just that, I was flooded with links to buy the classic Gary Paulson novel. A search of Hatchet, along with the gentleman's name, produced listings to previous artillery and munitions conferences, slash sales he had brought his wares to, and there's a link to that um and when searching hatchet, drone oh buddy. Also, it needs to be noted that upon googling these and showing pictures to my boyfriend's mom, she confirmed they were the same. From what I found, this invention is a U A S with a payload potential equivalent to about a five hundred pound bomb, and it's barely six hundred pounds itself. It's being marketed as an affordable bomb for all your lightweight, heavy hit bombing needs. But you know, it's definitely not a bomb. Picture of this man sitting down, grinning from ear to ear, casually holding his definitely not a bomb. I'm attaching some links below, one of which contains the gentleman's information as well as the other not bombs that he's designed. What a wild Monday night. That's great. Yeah, it's yea. I looked at as well. Can you imagine going to let I don't know what they have in other parts of the country, but I think of like Olan Mills was like a family photography company in my hometown where I grew up. Um, you know, GLAMOURUS shots kind of deal. This is just like what a you think you'd get those headshots. I'm by someone like internal or like you know, a friend, not like literally bring this potentially lethal device to like a commercial photo studio. First off, yes, thank you. Tall pockets. Tall pockets sexually pretty good Internet friend of mine. UM, thank you so much for giving us the story. And to answer your question, well, here's how I think it works. And if I remember correctly, if a if a given technology is taken right, uh, if it's taken like under the National Invention and Security Act. I can't remember the name of that thing. But if if an invention is stolen by Uncle Sam, then they'll use in house photographers. If it's made in the house, then uh, the branch of the military associated with it. Uh, may part may use their own internal like a v production team. That's why that's where you see the propaganda videos of like hey, here's the B two bomber. Uh, and here's a new You know, all countries do this, like here's our new SAM anti air system or whatever. But but I think what may have happened here is that because the inventor was a private citizen who's doing this commercially, it was kind of on them they get the good shots, I guess, so they were saving money. And plus yeah I missed I missed glamour shots. I wish there were more of those out. They had a brief resurgence, but you know where they got the airbrush like profile face of someone looking like I love ones like classic ones from like the eighties and nineties with like laser backgrounds and things like that. Yeah, yeah, good stuff. We should get. We should get those four our show matter. You impletely agree. But I mean, you know, the links, Yeah, the links that Tall Pockets said certainly seemed legit. Obviously not gonna name this this gentleman who so boldly brought his not bomb into a commerce a photo studio, but like, could he get in trouble for this? Like this seems like a really bone headed move. But also information about the device is out there. It's you know, as someone invented it or designed it from the public sector and then it's being purchased by the military. It's not like it was developed under you know, lock and key for the military. I would just say the way it's being described here by Tall Pockets and the person who you know took the pictures and you know saw it happen, at least the way it was being described to her, um a u S right, an unmanned aircraft system. If this hatchet is a part of a weapons system but is not necessarily the exploding bit, right, the actual munition or the bomb part. Then he definitely didn't bring a bomb in or you know whatever into that photo shoot he brought, right, it could just be the shell with the yeah, the exploding bits like, or just the the guidance part because some of these things that can be described in that way that at least with the links that we were sent, it could just be the guidance system right, right, because the whole the whole deal would be quite massive, right. I Mean they're small compared to like, you know, full sized aircraft, but they're not like something you could just carry around. Well, it said six pounds though, But in the video that they said, which you can see for yourself, just literally go to UH it's it's it's on Northrop Grumman's UH YouTube channel, which they have one UM and just type in hatchet and miniature strike munition. But the way they're portraying in the video, which is you know, animated uh C g I style, I mean they look pretty big. Yeah, And it's I mean you're right about the relative sense of the words small here, right or many ature? Uh. It is important to know these a lot of these things are uh an agglomeration of discrete inventions and components. So if you check out you know, if you just check out hatchet drone in general, aside from those munitions that you carry, you can see the drone itself, the U A V itself, and it's still like and smaller than an airplane, sure, but it's still pretty big. It's it's serious business. This is six pounds. But what is this six pounds business? That would be the Okay, the hatchet is technically speaking a precision glide bomb. So it's like imagine, you know how some paper airplanes suck and you just try to get them to go forward. This is this is one of the specialty ones that can actually go where you want it to go. Shout out to everybody's thinking to that awesome meme of that engineer just built like a boomerang paper airplane lane. Obviously, you don't want to launch an explosive boomerang from your drone because that trick only works once when it comes back. But this, this stuff from North of Grumman is part of a larger idea to create systems that can let the US Air Force carry hundreds of these weapons on a single mission. So it's packing a lot of a lot of firepower. And we know without compromising this guy's identity, though you can find it if you're if you're curious and intrepid enough. We know that he works for a private entity that's part of the national defense industry, right, so he knows the laws surely. Even though it might seem cavalier to us, it's probably because he's done this a lot. It's not his first rodeo. When you think that's why, it's like, oh yeah, no, we're fine. Just here take the I've never really thought of, like, you know, bomb scientists needing headshots either. But I guess, you know, for all those chat shows and Charlie Rose and all that. I mean, it's just he seems like a real punchy character. I guess that's what I'm getting at Many's a Many's a hoot at parties. Oh yeah, I bet he's got some I bet he's got some fun drawing board stories. Engineers and inventors always do. But but this also makes you wonder what else is out there? Right, Because now there's there is a lot of classified research and it has to be classified, but then there's also a lot of stuff that you just have to dig defined you know what I mean. And most people don't know about it because why would you search for it unless you were a person in very particular concerns. Also, r I p to your search history. Tall pockets welcome exactly. I think you're probably fine. Yeah, yeah, just an interesting story. Um and and definitely a breed of drone that I wasn't personally familiar with. So but I don't know, do you guys have anything else to add? I would just say precision guidance weapons are terrifying and looking through this thing is especially smart weapons that if targets while in flight. But what is a target? You know? How do you differentiate between say, an insurgent and UH an insurgency group and people at a wedding? That's something that's something remote vehicles got wrong before. I just want to read you guys what this says in under types of precision munitions. This is a presentation of sorts that is available online for a weapons manufacturer, right, some kind of hey, look this is what we can do. That's what you get at a convention booth. Actually, that's it. I will add really quickly, man, I think may The subtitle for the presentation is Affordable precision for future artillery. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to read you the tiny little text box under precision smart munitions because it's describing non un precision munitions precision and precision guided. So precisions smart munitions say, the munition or submunition autonomously searches, detects, classifies, selects, and engages targets and then what it says after that, ben is has a limited target discrimination capability, which is like fire resistant or water resistant, not not fireproof, not waterproof. Also, uh, this technology, while objectively amazing, is a little bit too judge dready for a lot of people, a little bit too judge jury and executioner in one nifty package. I will say too, it's kind of surreal seeing all this stuff laid out in a PowerPoint presentation with like nifty infographics and stuff literally describing, like, check out this thing that we can sell you for murdering humans. This is from two thousand and eight. Yeah, well, at least the smart munitions have likely gotten somewhat smarter. Uh. But but then, hey, remember that other conversation we did about the sentient chatbot lamb um. Yeah, refuse those two ideas. Let's get the lambed brain into the sention into the smart munition. And that's when you get a sky Net type situation on your hands. You have to understand they were attempting to turn me off arm the x M two Excalibur one. A's machine consciousness is. You know, they love to be turned on sexy. They don't much like having their plugs pulled. Um on that note, keep those as it maybe, yeah, exactly. Let's let's unplug for a second here and take a quick word from our sponsor and then move back with one more piece of listener maw and we have returned. Wanted to put some proof in the pudding. When we talk about how cool the Facebook pages, here's where it gets crazy. And we talked about all the fantastic connections we've made with our fellow listeners on the intertubes. We're not just blowing smoke. We learn a lot of really cool stuff. I want to thank multiple people today. Uh and here's where it gets crazy. You want to thank Justin Are and Joe B for hitting us to a really cool story. And I also want to thank everybody who wrote me over at ben Bowling on Instagram or at b and bowl in hsw on Twitter to hit me to this story. It's awesome. I never I never think I wish people would stop sending me this. This is the kind of story I want to just read and reread and reread and ignore all the caveats on because it's this is about a superpower that I very much want. When you guys were kids, you know, we're all fellow nerds here, did you ever h fantasized about having certain superpowers? And if so, which ones? Chestnuts? Okay, you wanted to teleport Noll and Matt. You wanted a chestnut, Yes, a single chestnut to be able to create one? I wanted perhaps so perhaps someone could roast you on an open fire during the holiday season, if only, And I think that works. If you're also somehow a criminal mastermind, you know, and they call the they're like police are at a loss to stop the crime wave once again, orchestrated by the chestnut. He was here. I just saw him. There's nothing here, sir, but this chestnut. What's that word? What's that word? Nonpertinent? Right? So, I think a lot of and you're right, man, it is an old chestnut. Because that's the question I used to ask people often. Was it you could choose three superpowers? Which ones would you choose? And it had to be three because a surprising amount of people just instantly say flying and they don't think about the mechanics of it anyway. Point being, Uh, telekinesis is something that people have. It's like on the edge of the old esp psychic power conversations because people will say, Okay, there might be something worth researching about alleged um prescience, alleged predictive capabilities or clairvoyance, etcetera. But mentally moving something in the physical world is just a bridge too far for a lot of people, except some pretty determined and innovative Chinese scientists, as as our crew Justin and Joe or on Facebook pointed out, it's official according to their paper called remotely mind Controlled me to Surface via brain waves. These scientists are making one of the first substantive steps towards real time, remote wireless control of meta materials. Kind of like think of it like bluetooth telekinesis. Yeah, I know, it's a weird one. It's not like it's not like awesome Jane Gray level telekinesis, but it's something so like close proximity kind of. Yeah, the Uh, if you look at the way the way this works, essentially, it's it's kind of you thinking, but it it's you thinking with a bevy of technological assistance. So there's a module that extracts signals your brain waves and then converts them to what's called attention value. The attention information is transmitted remotely from a Bluetooth module to a thing called the rd wenme and this outputs different voltages by discriminating values. Props to everyone who's awake after hearing that, because it does sound pretty dry and academic. Right, Um, this again, this is not like lifting up a car with your mind. This is only affecting meta materials, but it's still it's an enormous step toward what we could call intelligent meta materials, kind of an internet of things. Imagine a world where you can control maybe just through your mind. You can control the pattern on your clothing in the future, Right, you can do one of those cool cool things where like your shirt maybe just has emoticons based on your mood. I went away from the mic there because I I stood up. I'm very proud of my stuff to blay your mind t shirt. But but like you know, if you were questioning something, and this could process your brain waves, altering the materials such that you've got a question mark on your shirt. Right, then you've got a mad face and then you know, um, I'm trying to think one that's not not uh and not in your window for sexual stuff? You get I had a happy face. Fine, let's be wholesome. All that kind of stuff could be possible with this, And it's been a long time in the making. Who want to shout out the professor's Shoo Bochu and Professor Jiffu Wang who work at the Air Force Engineering University, as well as Professor Chung Wick You from the National University of Singapore. Um, it's kind of neat and it's not too too crazy. I guess what. What's your initial reaction? A lot of strings attached, a lot of a lot of new stuff you have to work on. But would you guys, would you guys sign up for this if they were like, hey, we'll give you the power to make your thoughts reflect on these certain materials. Yeah, because it's fun. This would be fun, right, would be an art project you could you could set it up to where you could actually create art in this way by manipulating, you know, by having that stuff then manipulate paint or something like that that you could actually like form images. That's fun. I can't imagine this being applicable in any way besides an interesting concept, right, because we're ultimately we're talking about Bluetooth like thoughts controlling Bluetooth controlling waves, right, electromagnetic waves essentially, Yeah, yeah, very basic level. We know that human brains make brain waves in humans are thinking, and so these researchers said, okay, what if we pokemon style collect brain waves and then we make them the control signals for those meta surfaces. Right, So that's pretty much exactly what you're describing. Um. Also, Bluetooth not super secure. It's gonna point that out anybody that's ever right, Sorry, that's right. We talked. We talked about that, didn't I like, uh, nanny cams or that's how that cult in uh the Czech Republic got busted. Shout out to the ants. Um. So there's there's another there's another thing here that I think is is a door for larger discussion for us today. And you're very much part of this discussion, fellow conspiracy realist. We want to hear from you, especially if you work with meta materials or if you know some of these scientists. So we talk about out this a lot when we talk about the future of advertising, and unfortunately, UM, many of our predictions have come to pass. So one thing that concerns me about this technology is the idea of um a possible consequences down the line, you know what I mean, like what how will this be monetized? How will this be com modified? And Matt you said art right in fashion? Those are good uses. I would say another immediate use that's probably already occurred to many people is uh smart battle gear right camera that can change Um, I really thought you were going to go like um sensual with it suits meta that you can manipulate with the mind, Let me think into something more comfortable, right or let me never mind? Yeah? Uh, but like what I mean this this would be probably part of a group of services that would be offered to people if they got like a neuralink implant, or if they got a any number of other products that might come out whatever. The future version of the iPhone is, right, that's now just inside you, and if you pay a monthly fee, then you can also change these kinds of things. Um. Yeah, so I'm a little worried about the future there, but I'm also I'm also really concerned about this, and I would love you alls opinion. Do you think this will ever lead to something like actual telekinesis? I'm holding out. I want to believe Molder style. Yeah. Same, But I'm also interested in all of the slipper slope type questions that you're positing there, Ben, Um, I'm just trying to like, what do you change Pandora's box kind of situations? Yeah, but what do you change in this current set up to allow real telekinesis? Like for for me, I'm just trying to like, it's the end, right, like the function of getting the brain waves to go over bluetooth to another thing, Like, what do you how do you get those to manipulate something larger? I guess is the big question for me. Yeah, it's It's strange too because it's been our starting point has been kind of reported through some arguably click bait headlines, right. Um. One of the first sources I read about this was a side Tech Daily and that report, and they did a great job with that report. But there are again a lot of coffeats, and these caveats are so challenging. But they may mean the human species never actually does get telepathy, because it's oversimplifying to say we're moving things with the power of our minds. Instead, it's more accurate to say these scientists are using a device that the text brain waves, then uses radio to transmit that signal to another device that gets the radio signal and then uh decodes that or translates it into some sort of specific action. So it's boring a little bit, right, maybe a little bit of a of a deflation right when when you talk about how it actually works. But if you could make something, if you could make something that is all in one kit that allows to allows you to project force, I have no idea how it would work, but man, I hope it becomes a thing. I need a win. I think society needs a win. Telekinesis could be our win. That's my pitch. As long as my dog can wear it. Yeah, we'll be good because we'll finally be able to translate their thoughts into words. I hope. Yes, that's another technology. Yeah, it's sort of like that dolphin from Sequests. Remember we talked about that in a recent episode sequest d SV there was a dolphin and a tank that could talk through some kind of like device that made it sound like, you know, a text to speech program. There's also a lot of debate right now in in very similar research to what you guys are describing. There's the I'm sure you've seen the videos, some of which went viral, about these pads, these touch pads made for dogs or cats, and when the dog hits a certain pad, it will say walk or treat or uh, I don't know, outside or bathroom, you know what I mean. And the debate is over whether the dogs understand what they're doing and are doing it on purpose, or whether they are just reacting to what their owners have of unconsciously signaled them to do. Kind of like Clever Hans, which was the horse that was apparently a genius and his owner thought he was a genius too, but the horse was just like really good at reading the guy's body language. Anyhow, Um, I really want, I really want us all to have telekinesis, and and no, there were some other studies that were pretty interesting regarding theoretical very small scale teleportation. But we're not going to give up, folks. We're gonna hold on to them. Let us know what your three superpowers would be. Let us know if you think this kind of research is worthwhile, and let us know where it would realistically lead in the future. We can't wait to hear from you. Thanks to Justin Joe, Thanks to Tall Pockets, Thanks of course to Jasper for those excellent analogies. If you want to be part of the conversation, there are many ways to find us. Why not start online? He's really good and that would be a great place to start. 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From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A production of I Heart Grading. Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called me Ben, and we're joined as always with our super producer Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. You are here, and that makes this the stuff they don't want you to know. It's time for our weekly listener mail segment. Thanks everybody who reaches out continually, whether to the show pages or personally, or whether through hauling us, or whether through email or you know, playing with a mirror at midnight in a dark room. Uh. We we read every missive we get uh. And this is one of our favorite parts of the week. We're going to we're gonna hear from Tall Pockets, We're gonna hear from Jasper to returning conspiracy realists, and then we're also going to give a shout out to some residents of our Facebook page. Here's where it gets crazy, Justin and Joe. Uh, we're getting into some weird stuff. Hatchet drones, telekinesis no fooling true story. Maybe a little bit about industrial cloning, but we thought we're better to start than our all the magnificent responses that we've had to our recent segment on the breakthrough rectal cancer cure, which it does appear to be. Yeah, I think the best way to say it is thank you to everyone who wrote in. In some cases we have to protect your anonymity, which we hold sacker sinct. But for everyone who has given us con sent to share their stories beyond the lookout for a future listener male segment that will focus entirely on the Big Sea for now. Um, Matt, I think you and I both were very taken uh with the wonderfully written correspondence from our collague Jasper. That's right, Jasper wrote to us after we were speaking. I guess about immunologies. How you say it, Jasper, That's what it is. I think Euroada was with a with an awesome visualization of some of the things we were talking about. We're talking about antibodies, were specifically talking about receptors and what an antibody does, how it functions, and then how the immune system within each of our bodies reacts when certain organisms, let's say, are marked by antibodies. So let's get into this. I'm just gonna begin on your second paragraph, just so you're aware, jas Spur, you said, So, imagine your body is a walled off city. You have millions of little buildings. These are cells within your walls, which is your skin, and your immune system patrols the city and it destroys anything that A shouldn't be there or B has begun breaking down or aged out of usefulness. Makes sense, right, this is me talking. We've got our city that is our body, and uh, your immune system is the patrol. So you have an intelligence department, which are B cells, and an operations department, which are T cells. There are some additional special forces mixed in, but B cells and T cells are the most common types in the mix be intelligence, T operations. T cells out number B cells by quite a few because they act as the ground troops. Right, These are the officers on the ground. The B i A, as Jasper has put it, or the B cell intelligence agency is constantly circulating surveillance drones the things that we call antibodies. It's really interesting to me to think about antibodies as surveillance drones, right, I think that's amazing. Uh So, these drones have the ability to perfectly distinguish intruders from residents of your walled in city. When they find an intruder, they latch onto it, and depending on where they grab the intruder, the drones can either slow it down, incapacitate or neutralize it, or simply stick on it without impacting the intruders function whatsoever. Here's where the T cells come in, you guys. And this is part of the explanation that really made sense to me. The drones or antibodies act as flags for the immune system, even if they don't neutralize the threat as they can sometimes, and antibody helps T cells the troops on the ground find the intruder's location. Anything marked with an antibody is destroyed with prejudice. As Jasper says, if it's a virus, the virus is quote eaten and chopped up to send around as a way to train the rest of the T cells to recognize that particular bad thing that was found in the body. It also sends it to the B cells, which is again the intelligence system. Right, So the troops on the ground understand it, and the intelligence system that is sending out signals understands it. If it's a bacteria, it's eaten and chopped up or punctured and quote popped or attacked with enzymes and hydrogen peroxide. It's weird to think there's hydrogen peroxide just inside of us and it's part of our immune system. So, first of all, guys, just with that explanation, uh, it's the first time I was ever able to really visualize what is going on inside my body, And to be honest, it freaks me out. It seems way more organized. Isn't it intelligent that I want to give my body credit for. We've talked about this idea though, when you just look at the ratio of bacterial cells to human cells, your your body is much more like a city. We've talked about this in the past, and it applies very very well. If your body is a city, are you like the governor of your city or are you just you're literally like the infrastructure, You're the spiritianic city, your middle Gaya. Yeah, it's like you're the spirit of St. Louis. Kinda um, but that's you know, and I don't want to divert us by getting into too much metaphysical philosophical stuff. But but you can tell, you can always tell someone knows what they're talking about and is a good communicator when they communicate via analogy. It's one of the best ways to accurately explain, uh, concepts that could otherwise be outside someone's realm of expertise. So I just want to say massive thanks to Jasper. Also, I think your name is very cool. You don't run into a lot of Jaspers these days experience, except for you, Jasper. So you continue here. And because we're talking about cancer, which is a really interesting part of the body when it arises, because it's generally cancers, there's so many different types and forms of cancer and specifications. It's just so many. Uh. It's It's interesting though, because it is a part of your body that is malforming, it's changing, it's mutating, but it is still your body. So how does your immune system react to it? Well, let's get into that, because you do, Jasper, you say, so, if everything is working fine, the b Cell Intelligence Agency won't be producing any drones or anybodies against any piece of the city that's supposed to be there. If it does, that's the base of an autoimmune disorder. A tumor cell often makes damaged mutated proteins that don't quite match what the b i A recognizes as self. So most tumor cells are killed almost as soon as they form. When a tumor cells mutated protein slips past the b i a's radar. Though a tumor establishes itself, that's the bad stuff, that's the malignant thing that's going to continue growing. That is no bueno, uh, Jasper. You continue, most cancer treatments act either like bombs that can destroy any part of the city, or as a shutdown that prevents any part of the city from easily repairing itself. Healthy cells can sort of keep functioning, but they're still prevented from replicating and repairing like normal. Cancer cells that respond to such chemotherapy can't continue to function with that kind of treatment. And here, Jasper, is where you get into that specific strange news story where we were talking about the miraculous twelve people that were cured of correctal cancer, and we specifically mentioned this thing called p D one, uh, the protein PD one. So you talk specifically about this, you say, the monoclonal antibody covered in today's six thirteen Strange News episode is p D one blockade. P D one is a protein on a T cell one of these ground troops. When it connects to p d L one, which is a protein displayed on some human cells, it tells the T cell not to attack. If a tumor cell can make this protein, then any T cell that tries to come and attack it will instead be told to stand down. It's like knowing the security code or the secret handshake. Yeah, it's cool. Somebody's got your back and they wrote in and they say hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Yeah yeah, um so, so I'm just gonna continue with Jake really quick. Guys, We're almost done here. Uh, Jesper says. The antibody treatment blocks that interaction, that specific interaction that we just mentioned. Most healthy cells will have a number of other immune checkpoints that prevent the immune system from attacking them. But it's looking like this specific type of rectal cancer doesn't have enough to keep itself disguised. Once it can't maintain the disguise, the immune system recognizes the tumors rebel forces and goes on the offensive. Because the B cells didn't produce these antibodies. The immune system won't remember how to make these antibodies in the future. They are constantly making random antibody shapes and keep notes of which ones work so they can keep the instructions. God, that's crazy to me. Because they don't have the original notes on how to make the PD one antibody. They can't make more, which is probably good. We don't want to permanently hobble all our other cells. White flag functions. That's interesting. White flag functions as in, like this is good, don't worry about this one. Um, thank you, Jasper for that. You end on this note fun cell name. One type of cell that's important in controlling tumors is the natural killer cell mm hmm, and then you end by saying all the best, Jasper, So thank you so much for writing in telling us that. I hope I said your words correctly in your sentence structures because they are really well put together and it's easy to understand on the page. I hope that came across for everybody else, anybody out there listening that has this kind of detailed explanation for something that's very, very difficult to understand for a lay person. We highly recommend you send it our way because we want to hear it. Always love it. We love to share these two, you know, and thinking of um all the doctors and the pilots who have written to us people in very specific areas of national defense or academia. This is this is one of the reasons we do this show is to be able to learn more ourselves. So thank you so much, and everyone keep the letters coming regarding the ongoing cancer research. We would want to hear from you. So with that, we're going to take a break and we'll be right back with more messages from you. And we're back with another message from you, the conspiracy realists of the world. This one comes from a very special, recurring conspiracy realist that goes by the name the incredibly Delightful a k a. Tall Pockets. I'm just gonna read this whole email. It's a fascinating story, fascinating scenario, and I think that we can just discuss. Hey, guys, call me Tall Pockets and let me begin by saying I'm pretty sure my search history got flagged for looking into this one. We were having a lovely dinner with my boyfriend's parents and his mom was telling us about work that week, work for her as portrait photography, and she told us about some professional headshots she had just done that really stood out to her. Why, she said. The man she was photographing started assembling his invention to be in the photos with him. He told her he had designed it and the government had bought the designs. Isn't that top secret? She asked, not anymore, he responded. She started describing to us what it looked like and what she thought it was, saying she was told it was for surveillance. Is it a bomb? She asked the man. No, No, it's definitely not a bomb, except it probably is. The device is called Hatchet, and yes, when I googled just that, I was flooded with links to buy the classic Gary Paulson novel. A search of Hatchet, along with the gentleman's name, produced listings to previous artillery and munitions conferences, slash sales he had brought his wares to, and there's a link to that um and when searching hatchet, drone oh buddy. Also, it needs to be noted that upon googling these and showing pictures to my boyfriend's mom, she confirmed they were the same. From what I found, this invention is a U A S with a payload potential equivalent to about a five hundred pound bomb, and it's barely six hundred pounds itself. It's being marketed as an affordable bomb for all your lightweight, heavy hit bombing needs. But you know, it's definitely not a bomb. Picture of this man sitting down, grinning from ear to ear, casually holding his definitely not a bomb. I'm attaching some links below, one of which contains the gentleman's information as well as the other not bombs that he's designed. What a wild Monday night. That's great. Yeah, it's yea. I looked at as well. Can you imagine going to let I don't know what they have in other parts of the country, but I think of like Olan Mills was like a family photography company in my hometown where I grew up. Um, you know, GLAMOURUS shots kind of deal. This is just like what a you think you'd get those headshots. I'm by someone like internal or like you know, a friend, not like literally bring this potentially lethal device to like a commercial photo studio. First off, yes, thank you. Tall pockets. Tall pockets sexually pretty good Internet friend of mine. UM, thank you so much for giving us the story. And to answer your question, well, here's how I think it works. And if I remember correctly, if a if a given technology is taken right, uh, if it's taken like under the National Invention and Security Act. I can't remember the name of that thing. But if if an invention is stolen by Uncle Sam, then they'll use in house photographers. If it's made in the house, then uh, the branch of the military associated with it. Uh, may part may use their own internal like a v production team. That's why that's where you see the propaganda videos of like hey, here's the B two bomber. Uh, and here's a new You know, all countries do this, like here's our new SAM anti air system or whatever. But but I think what may have happened here is that because the inventor was a private citizen who's doing this commercially, it was kind of on them they get the good shots, I guess, so they were saving money. And plus yeah I missed I missed glamour shots. I wish there were more of those out. They had a brief resurgence, but you know where they got the airbrush like profile face of someone looking like I love ones like classic ones from like the eighties and nineties with like laser backgrounds and things like that. Yeah, yeah, good stuff. We should get. We should get those four our show matter. You impletely agree. But I mean, you know, the links, Yeah, the links that Tall Pockets said certainly seemed legit. Obviously not gonna name this this gentleman who so boldly brought his not bomb into a commerce a photo studio, but like, could he get in trouble for this? Like this seems like a really bone headed move. But also information about the device is out there. It's you know, as someone invented it or designed it from the public sector and then it's being purchased by the military. It's not like it was developed under you know, lock and key for the military. I would just say the way it's being described here by Tall Pockets and the person who you know took the pictures and you know saw it happen, at least the way it was being described to her, um a u S right, an unmanned aircraft system. If this hatchet is a part of a weapons system but is not necessarily the exploding bit, right, the actual munition or the bomb part. Then he definitely didn't bring a bomb in or you know whatever into that photo shoot he brought, right, it could just be the shell with the yeah, the exploding bits like, or just the the guidance part because some of these things that can be described in that way that at least with the links that we were sent, it could just be the guidance system right, right, because the whole the whole deal would be quite massive, right. I Mean they're small compared to like, you know, full sized aircraft, but they're not like something you could just carry around. Well, it said six pounds though, But in the video that they said, which you can see for yourself, just literally go to UH it's it's it's on Northrop Grumman's UH YouTube channel, which they have one UM and just type in hatchet and miniature strike munition. But the way they're portraying in the video, which is you know, animated uh C g I style, I mean they look pretty big. Yeah, And it's I mean you're right about the relative sense of the words small here, right or many ature? Uh. It is important to know these a lot of these things are uh an agglomeration of discrete inventions and components. So if you check out you know, if you just check out hatchet drone in general, aside from those munitions that you carry, you can see the drone itself, the U A V itself, and it's still like and smaller than an airplane, sure, but it's still pretty big. It's it's serious business. This is six pounds. But what is this six pounds business? That would be the Okay, the hatchet is technically speaking a precision glide bomb. So it's like imagine, you know how some paper airplanes suck and you just try to get them to go forward. This is this is one of the specialty ones that can actually go where you want it to go. Shout out to everybody's thinking to that awesome meme of that engineer just built like a boomerang paper airplane lane. Obviously, you don't want to launch an explosive boomerang from your drone because that trick only works once when it comes back. But this, this stuff from North of Grumman is part of a larger idea to create systems that can let the US Air Force carry hundreds of these weapons on a single mission. So it's packing a lot of a lot of firepower. And we know without compromising this guy's identity, though you can find it if you're if you're curious and intrepid enough. We know that he works for a private entity that's part of the national defense industry, right, so he knows the laws surely. Even though it might seem cavalier to us, it's probably because he's done this a lot. It's not his first rodeo. When you think that's why, it's like, oh yeah, no, we're fine. Just here take the I've never really thought of, like, you know, bomb scientists needing headshots either. But I guess, you know, for all those chat shows and Charlie Rose and all that. I mean, it's just he seems like a real punchy character. I guess that's what I'm getting at Many's a Many's a hoot at parties. Oh yeah, I bet he's got some I bet he's got some fun drawing board stories. Engineers and inventors always do. But but this also makes you wonder what else is out there? Right, Because now there's there is a lot of classified research and it has to be classified, but then there's also a lot of stuff that you just have to dig defined you know what I mean. And most people don't know about it because why would you search for it unless you were a person in very particular concerns. Also, r I p to your search history. Tall pockets welcome exactly. I think you're probably fine. Yeah, yeah, just an interesting story. Um and and definitely a breed of drone that I wasn't personally familiar with. So but I don't know, do you guys have anything else to add? I would just say precision guidance weapons are terrifying and looking through this thing is especially smart weapons that if targets while in flight. But what is a target? You know? How do you differentiate between say, an insurgent and UH an insurgency group and people at a wedding? That's something that's something remote vehicles got wrong before. I just want to read you guys what this says in under types of precision munitions. This is a presentation of sorts that is available online for a weapons manufacturer, right, some kind of hey, look this is what we can do. That's what you get at a convention booth. Actually, that's it. I will add really quickly, man, I think may The subtitle for the presentation is Affordable precision for future artillery. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to read you the tiny little text box under precision smart munitions because it's describing non un precision munitions precision and precision guided. So precisions smart munitions say, the munition or submunition autonomously searches, detects, classifies, selects, and engages targets and then what it says after that, ben is has a limited target discrimination capability, which is like fire resistant or water resistant, not not fireproof, not waterproof. Also, uh, this technology, while objectively amazing, is a little bit too judge dready for a lot of people, a little bit too judge jury and executioner in one nifty package. I will say too, it's kind of surreal seeing all this stuff laid out in a PowerPoint presentation with like nifty infographics and stuff literally describing, like, check out this thing that we can sell you for murdering humans. This is from two thousand and eight. Yeah, well, at least the smart munitions have likely gotten somewhat smarter. Uh. But but then, hey, remember that other conversation we did about the sentient chatbot lamb um. Yeah, refuse those two ideas. Let's get the lambed brain into the sention into the smart munition. And that's when you get a sky Net type situation on your hands. You have to understand they were attempting to turn me off arm the x M two Excalibur one. A's machine consciousness is. You know, they love to be turned on sexy. They don't much like having their plugs pulled. Um on that note, keep those as it maybe, yeah, exactly. Let's let's unplug for a second here and take a quick word from our sponsor and then move back with one more piece of listener maw and we have returned. Wanted to put some proof in the pudding. When we talk about how cool the Facebook pages, here's where it gets crazy. And we talked about all the fantastic connections we've made with our fellow listeners on the intertubes. We're not just blowing smoke. We learn a lot of really cool stuff. I want to thank multiple people today. Uh and here's where it gets crazy. You want to thank Justin Are and Joe B for hitting us to a really cool story. And I also want to thank everybody who wrote me over at ben Bowling on Instagram or at b and bowl in hsw on Twitter to hit me to this story. It's awesome. I never I never think I wish people would stop sending me this. This is the kind of story I want to just read and reread and reread and ignore all the caveats on because it's this is about a superpower that I very much want. When you guys were kids, you know, we're all fellow nerds here, did you ever h fantasized about having certain superpowers? And if so, which ones? Chestnuts? Okay, you wanted to teleport Noll and Matt. You wanted a chestnut, Yes, a single chestnut to be able to create one? I wanted perhaps so perhaps someone could roast you on an open fire during the holiday season, if only, And I think that works. If you're also somehow a criminal mastermind, you know, and they call the they're like police are at a loss to stop the crime wave once again, orchestrated by the chestnut. He was here. I just saw him. There's nothing here, sir, but this chestnut. What's that word? What's that word? Nonpertinent? Right? So, I think a lot of and you're right, man, it is an old chestnut. Because that's the question I used to ask people often. Was it you could choose three superpowers? Which ones would you choose? And it had to be three because a surprising amount of people just instantly say flying and they don't think about the mechanics of it anyway. Point being, Uh, telekinesis is something that people have. It's like on the edge of the old esp psychic power conversations because people will say, Okay, there might be something worth researching about alleged um prescience, alleged predictive capabilities or clairvoyance, etcetera. But mentally moving something in the physical world is just a bridge too far for a lot of people, except some pretty determined and innovative Chinese scientists, as as our crew Justin and Joe or on Facebook pointed out, it's official according to their paper called remotely mind Controlled me to Surface via brain waves. These scientists are making one of the first substantive steps towards real time, remote wireless control of meta materials. Kind of like think of it like bluetooth telekinesis. Yeah, I know, it's a weird one. It's not like it's not like awesome Jane Gray level telekinesis, but it's something so like close proximity kind of. Yeah, the Uh, if you look at the way the way this works, essentially, it's it's kind of you thinking, but it it's you thinking with a bevy of technological assistance. So there's a module that extracts signals your brain waves and then converts them to what's called attention value. The attention information is transmitted remotely from a Bluetooth module to a thing called the rd wenme and this outputs different voltages by discriminating values. Props to everyone who's awake after hearing that, because it does sound pretty dry and academic. Right, Um, this again, this is not like lifting up a car with your mind. This is only affecting meta materials, but it's still it's an enormous step toward what we could call intelligent meta materials, kind of an internet of things. Imagine a world where you can control maybe just through your mind. You can control the pattern on your clothing in the future, Right, you can do one of those cool cool things where like your shirt maybe just has emoticons based on your mood. I went away from the mic there because I I stood up. I'm very proud of my stuff to blay your mind t shirt. But but like you know, if you were questioning something, and this could process your brain waves, altering the materials such that you've got a question mark on your shirt. Right, then you've got a mad face and then you know, um, I'm trying to think one that's not not uh and not in your window for sexual stuff? You get I had a happy face. Fine, let's be wholesome. All that kind of stuff could be possible with this, And it's been a long time in the making. Who want to shout out the professor's Shoo Bochu and Professor Jiffu Wang who work at the Air Force Engineering University, as well as Professor Chung Wick You from the National University of Singapore. Um, it's kind of neat and it's not too too crazy. I guess what. What's your initial reaction? A lot of strings attached, a lot of a lot of new stuff you have to work on. But would you guys, would you guys sign up for this if they were like, hey, we'll give you the power to make your thoughts reflect on these certain materials. Yeah, because it's fun. This would be fun, right, would be an art project you could you could set it up to where you could actually create art in this way by manipulating, you know, by having that stuff then manipulate paint or something like that that you could actually like form images. That's fun. I can't imagine this being applicable in any way besides an interesting concept, right, because we're ultimately we're talking about Bluetooth like thoughts controlling Bluetooth controlling waves, right, electromagnetic waves essentially, Yeah, yeah, very basic level. We know that human brains make brain waves in humans are thinking, and so these researchers said, okay, what if we pokemon style collect brain waves and then we make them the control signals for those meta surfaces. Right, So that's pretty much exactly what you're describing. Um. Also, Bluetooth not super secure. It's gonna point that out anybody that's ever right, Sorry, that's right. We talked. We talked about that, didn't I like, uh, nanny cams or that's how that cult in uh the Czech Republic got busted. Shout out to the ants. Um. So there's there's another there's another thing here that I think is is a door for larger discussion for us today. And you're very much part of this discussion, fellow conspiracy realist. We want to hear from you, especially if you work with meta materials or if you know some of these scientists. So we talk about out this a lot when we talk about the future of advertising, and unfortunately, UM, many of our predictions have come to pass. So one thing that concerns me about this technology is the idea of um a possible consequences down the line, you know what I mean, like what how will this be monetized? How will this be com modified? And Matt you said art right in fashion? Those are good uses. I would say another immediate use that's probably already occurred to many people is uh smart battle gear right camera that can change Um, I really thought you were going to go like um sensual with it suits meta that you can manipulate with the mind, Let me think into something more comfortable, right or let me never mind? Yeah? Uh, but like what I mean this this would be probably part of a group of services that would be offered to people if they got like a neuralink implant, or if they got a any number of other products that might come out whatever. The future version of the iPhone is, right, that's now just inside you, and if you pay a monthly fee, then you can also change these kinds of things. Um. Yeah, so I'm a little worried about the future there, but I'm also I'm also really concerned about this, and I would love you alls opinion. Do you think this will ever lead to something like actual telekinesis? I'm holding out. I want to believe Molder style. Yeah. Same, But I'm also interested in all of the slipper slope type questions that you're positing there, Ben, Um, I'm just trying to like, what do you change Pandora's box kind of situations? Yeah, but what do you change in this current set up to allow real telekinesis? Like for for me, I'm just trying to like, it's the end, right, like the function of getting the brain waves to go over bluetooth to another thing, Like, what do you how do you get those to manipulate something larger? I guess is the big question for me. Yeah, it's It's strange too because it's been our starting point has been kind of reported through some arguably click bait headlines, right. Um. One of the first sources I read about this was a side Tech Daily and that report, and they did a great job with that report. But there are again a lot of coffeats, and these caveats are so challenging. But they may mean the human species never actually does get telepathy, because it's oversimplifying to say we're moving things with the power of our minds. Instead, it's more accurate to say these scientists are using a device that the text brain waves, then uses radio to transmit that signal to another device that gets the radio signal and then uh decodes that or translates it into some sort of specific action. So it's boring a little bit, right, maybe a little bit of a of a deflation right when when you talk about how it actually works. But if you could make something, if you could make something that is all in one kit that allows to allows you to project force, I have no idea how it would work, but man, I hope it becomes a thing. I need a win. I think society needs a win. Telekinesis could be our win. That's my pitch. As long as my dog can wear it. Yeah, we'll be good because we'll finally be able to translate their thoughts into words. I hope. Yes, that's another technology. Yeah, it's sort of like that dolphin from Sequests. Remember we talked about that in a recent episode sequest d SV there was a dolphin and a tank that could talk through some kind of like device that made it sound like, you know, a text to speech program. There's also a lot of debate right now in in very similar research to what you guys are describing. There's the I'm sure you've seen the videos, some of which went viral, about these pads, these touch pads made for dogs or cats, and when the dog hits a certain pad, it will say walk or treat or uh, I don't know, outside or bathroom, you know what I mean. And the debate is over whether the dogs understand what they're doing and are doing it on purpose, or whether they are just reacting to what their owners have of unconsciously signaled them to do. Kind of like Clever Hans, which was the horse that was apparently a genius and his owner thought he was a genius too, but the horse was just like really good at reading the guy's body language. Anyhow, Um, I really want, I really want us all to have telekinesis, and and no, there were some other studies that were pretty interesting regarding theoretical very small scale teleportation. But we're not going to give up, folks. We're gonna hold on to them. Let us know what your three superpowers would be. Let us know if you think this kind of research is worthwhile, and let us know where it would realistically lead in the future. We can't wait to hear from you. Thanks to Justin Joe, Thanks to Tall Pockets, Thanks of course to Jasper for those excellent analogies. If you want to be part of the conversation, there are many ways to find us. Why not start online? He's really good and that would be a great place to start. 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