Could fur farms be responsible for COVID-19? Why are people burning down Masonic lodges? And over in Texas, in turns out Tesla may be building a real-life company town to support SpaceX -- and, by hook or by crook, driving the existing residents out. All this and more in this week's listener mail segment.
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From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A production of I Heart Brading. Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our superproducer Alexis code name Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. You are here, and that makes this the stuff they don't want you to know. It is time for our weekly listener mail segment and we have some doozies for you today, folks. Before we begin, though, I would like to I would like to put out a very special thank you to everybody who responded with clarifications on our previous last week's Strange News where we talked a little bit about ghost guns. Thank you for everybody who took the time to write in with those clarifications. Uh. We look forward. We always look forward to this because this these kinds of messages are mission critical to our show, and more importantly, uh, they're helpful to your fellow conspiracy realists. So please look forward to episode that's going to be coming out in a few weeks yeah, days for sure, called the rise of ghost guns. Yeah, And I would just say, personally, Um, you know, I listened to back to a few parts of that, and I can see where the criticism was coming from on my part, so I just want to say, here, we hear you. I hear you, and um, we're we're going to address some of those things. Now, what did you do? I would just say, on my part, what I did and what was I I think I may have conflated a little bit of my story with Ben's story, maybe two much, So that's on me. Um, and did I didn't mean to do that. I think it was overall confusing. So I see, and as usual, I was out of my mind on ether typical bed, typical, typical, typical. I gotta I gotta ask that I've heard a little bit about ghost guns just in the news recently, and how it was the first time I heard the term. I think because it was coming up, you know, in the wake of some of these recent mass shootings in terms of like, here's the thing that we can make illegal, right and probably would be an easy fix at least for that type of thing. There's probably a lot more to be done. But that certainly seems like one that's problematic. But it reminds me of the movie. Oh, I think it's called In the Line of Fire. Yeah, yeah, where Clean Eastwood plays uh a F B or C I agent who was protecting John F. Kennedy and you know, like failed and then in the modern day he's like a grizzled kind of bitter old man, you know, Clean Eastwood, um and John Malkovitch plays this like genius assassin who has this like plastic composite gun that he, you know, can sneak through security and then he hides the bullet in a Lucky Rabbits fire. I don't think that's the same as ghost guns, but I kind of that's what I always think of when I hear that geez, spoilers. No, well, it's it's a spoiler on Clint Eastwood's range. Do you want him as grizzled or extra grizzled? Yeah, it's it is. It's like going, uh, well, h he's a great American actor and director and a great American let's just leave it at that. Well, I've never met him, but Grand Torino is a fantastic film. Get off my one, so so yes, thank you. We do as we said, read every email we get to, every piece of correspondence. Uh. They're important to us because your time is important, and you have taken the time to reach out to us and in that way to reach out to your fellow listeners. So the least that we can do is gratefully take the time to hear you and hear what you have to say. With that in mind, UH, today we're going to hear from We're gonna hear from several of our fellow conspiracy realists. And I've got to say, you know, no knowing who we're gonna be, you know, vicariously speaking with today, I think uh, I think the correspondent that you chose has my favorite name because they're the only one who like picked a nickname. Uh that's not true, though there's two in there. This week we have been getting some doozy nicknames. So I guess that you would like me to to to go first. I am absolutely fine with us. Uh. My listener mail comes from someone who very specifically asked not to be named by name, but signed this email. I'm just gonna read the email and then do the sign off, because you really need to hear the content before you understand the meaning of the nickname. Uh, and it goes a little something like this, Hi, guys, thanks for all the quality entertainment this past year. I was wondering if you could touch upon the possibility of fur farms in China, not labs, being the source of COVID nineteen and variants. It seems to me that this is the most likely source for the outbreak, and China is the current world leader in mink for best concerned mink, concerned men, mink, a concerned mink. Yeah, I completely agree, and minks to me always kind of have the appearance of being concerned because it turns out there good for a lot of things, uh, not just making mink coats, which I thought for it really fallen out of fashion, even with like the high end you know, bespoke fashion lines. It seems like sort of a no no, right, Like don't you get red paint throw on you if you walk down the street in a fur coat or a mink stole. Uh? Well, it depends on where you go, because we have you know, a lot of different parts of the world have different opinions about not just animal rights, but also what does or does not qualify as like high fashion versus something ghosh. So the fur indie street at least pre pandemic, the fur industry was still doing pretty well. They're always going to be moves to uh prevent that practice of growing animals and slaughtering them prefer but there's a lot of money to be made. There's more money to be made selling those coats than there is to stop selling them. As cold as that sounds, would you guys agree, no, I would, And into your point, Ben, in terms of cultural uh, you know, mileage may vary situations in terms of opinions on for I mean that's true of like what would or would not be considered food, you know, like you know, for in some Asian countries, like dogs are slaughtered pretty regularly, um for for meat. Uh, and that is very much the case with fur as well. UM. In China, the main species that are harvested for their fur our mink, fox, and raccoon dog um and respect of a According to a fabulous article that the concerned Minks sent us on the Conversation, seventeen and twelve million respective animals slaughtered each year. Uh. And that's from so that would be twenty one million mink why far the largest number UM in that in that group of most popular animals to harvest for their fur. And as we know, in many situations like with these wet markets that we've heard so much about, there isn't as much environmental, humanitarian, or even sanitary oversight over some of these facilities in Asian countries, in China in particular, and because of that, it does lead to some situations that could result in UM virus is being spread unexpectedly, especially when there's like a new you know, variant of one. Because it turns out that minx, which are referred to as amused lids. Have you guys heard of this mimmu m U s t E l ideas I've never heard that word before, are susceptible to the stars c O V two virus um, which is which is the coronavirus um. And there's you know, more science e specifics in this article if you want to get more into the minutia of it. But it makes a pretty good case as to how this could have resulted from an unchecked mink farming operation rather than specifically that wet market. UH. And it is UM It has to do with the fact that, as we know, um, the coronavirus is a zoo aotic disease. It can bounce from an animal to a different species like a human, and that's what makes it particularly dangerous and easy to spread. And this also means to be clear that animals can spread uh, this infection to one another humans of course, is the part we focus on. But musclids are it's it's umbrella term. It's a family of everything from otters to wolverines to badgers, ferrets and Martin's as well. Yeah, you're absolutely right, um concerned mink is raising a very important point. It's something that other places have speculated um about in the West, like National Geographic also did an article where they asked whether there was a missing link in these fur farms. And honestly, to steal a line from our buddy Neil's, the thing about the origin and spread of COVID nineteen is that at this point it's such a recent and ongoing event that there's still a lot of questions people are trying to answer, and asking those questions does not necessarily make you, uh, you know, the next candidate for a tinfoil hat. I think a lot of people actually you know what a lot of people might not remember. Uh they there's maybe the stereotype that's wrapped up in a little bit of late and racism. Uh. That said, that makes people assume that China is the world's number one exporter of of mink and specific that's not true. It's Denmark and that's why, like not too long ago, they slaughtered fifteen seventeen million minks because some a tested positive for a variant of coronavirus. I mean, it's a really it's a very real concern. Like you were saying, no, Uh, these animals are vulnerable to this and they can spread it to humans. So even if the origin of covid in mustelids was, you know, attributable to what scientists currently believe it's attributable to, that doesn't mean that it couldn't have made that leap from someone working in one of these fur farms. That's right. And um, it's interesting because study, a recent study showed that in fact, quite a few species are susceptible to the star's code to including primates and other carnivores um. But the authors of the study, Uh again, this is from this article in The Conversation. UM want to make it clear to not over interpret these types of predictions and use it as a means of spreading kind of alarmism, but also just you know, kind of be aware. It said that specifically, the quote is uh. They wanted to stress the importance of avoiding over interpreting the predictions put forward and point out that the experimental and observational data in the field are required. So it's like, Okay, yes, we know that these animals are susceptible, but we need to actually track, you know, the spread of this through these uh, these various animal communities before you know, rushing to judgment and thinking this is definitely what it's all about. Um, but whatever the case might be. Over are all infectious diseases. They are up significantly from the mid twentieth century, and they're particularly um prevalent in parts of the world that are let's just say affected by the human race. Um, you know, where man is kind of bulldozing natural areas, um and limiting animal biodiversity let's just say, and capturing wild animals. And that's why I think the wet market with such a target is because that is a hot spot or a hub where there's tons of different species all kind of commingling, sometimes in cages right on top of each other. We've talked about this in some of our COVID nineteen episodes. Uh, and that can lead to the spread of these these diseases. Yeah, for sure, that's That's the thing that I think a lot of people need to understand. There's a nuance here. So yes, the World Health Organization concluded that the odds of a lab manufactured origin of COVID are very very low. It's highly unlikely that that happened. But there are still these very serious unanswered questions about exactly when, where, and how stars UH COVID nineteen first got into human beings, how it made the leap, and one thing that could happen I would I would argue, and I think this goes to your question concerned me on one thing that could easily have happened and actually probably did happen, is that wet markets or regions where people were interacting with wild animals became these clusters, like these secondary clusters, so an additional explosion, right that further gassed up the spread of the infection. I'm saying that human being was infected by COVID nineteen at a wet market or at a fur factory or something like that is not the same thing as saying that is definitely the origin. But looking at the math, looking at the science, looking at the vectors, it had to have happened. It had to have been spreading. And then yes, it's terrible for the business to have to destroy a bunch of minks like Denmark did. But what what other choice are you gonna have. What are you gonna tell somebody who is wait desperately hoping and praying that they're dying relative can get a ventilator? Are you going to tell them? Sorry, I'm a I'm a cope man. I just want to reiterate here that no matter what you believe the origins are of this pandemic. You know, COVID nineteen and all of this, the best experts appointed by the w h OH, by all of these organizations that you may not even necessarily trust, all are saying that we don't have the full answers. We have most likely probabilities essentially based on what we have found, what we can prove. So you know, if you're feeling if you're still feel a little weird about it, that's okay. But you know, just remember that nobody knows right now, but we're still trying to track it down. That's exactly right. And Uh, all of this anti Asian sentiment, you know, and the rhetoric around it and the actual actions that has led to in certain members of the population, UM is just heartbreaking because it's, you know, whatever the case might be, if there are conditions that might make these markets and these types of factories and our factory farming situations more susceptible to spreading these kinds of viruses, is certainly of no fault of the you know, individual human beings that live in that country. UM. So that kind of misplaced anger just really boggles my mind. But one thing that interesting about this type of disease, this is zoonotic virus, is it can be traveled. It can travel both ways, like humans can get animals sick with it as well. We have had cases. I think you guys might remember there was a tiger. I think it was in the Detroit Zoo, but I might be wrong. Uh. There have been cases of found in domestic cats and dogs. Uh. And and also there's a cat captive lions I believe, uh, and farmed minx and guerrillas, where it's humans that are actually giving the disease to the animal, the virus to the animals. And that's called reverse zoonosis. And that's exactly right. I knew was a b thing, Um, I said, d I said, Detroit, I'm just wrong, Matt, you got me um uh. And this is particularly true of these must lets or muselets. How however, the pronunciation goes um. And I think this is something that is potentially of concern to try in his economy because you know, this, uh, this fur farming industry is is quite a lucrative operation, you know, and and it accounts for quite a bit of of income for the economy. And there are discussions being had as to whether more oversight needs to be brought to it, or whether it needs to be shut down or certain operations need to be shut down. So it's something to kind of keep an eye on. But I'm sure that it is making some proprietors of these facilities pretty nervous. Let's just plant more hemp, guys, Let's make more hemp clothes and get rid of the fur. Let's do it. It's a shame you can't plant either, you know what. I mean you mon um, it's got an ether farm up in the up in the foothills, exactly. We can keep this one short. I think we, you know, because again I think people are kind of getting COVID fatigue at this point. But I do think this is an interesting development and something to keep an eye on. So thank you, too, concerned Mink for passing this one along too. I said, we're gonna take quick sponsor break and be right back with more strange news. And we're back, and without any kind of introduction, let's just listen to the message left to us by our good friend Mal. Hey guys, um, but this is what I had an interesting thing to your Strange News podcast, which I love, by the way. It's been all a couple of weeks ago here in Vancouver and basically a couple of or three actually Masonic halls got burnt down by one guy. I'm really looked into. It's his mode. I can't really find much of why he did it or anything if he was a Freemason or whatever. But I thought if you could find anything out, or if you have any discussion points on that would be pretty interesting. Um, you can use my voice on the if you if you want to, you can refer to me as Mel Reynolds. That's not my name, but I'm a big thanks guys, love you what see you let him? Now I see what you're saying. Uh now, now I see what you're saying, Matt, about that nickname. I thought it'd be more fun if you discovered it. You were that moment call me Mel Reynolds. That's uh, one of my favorite characters ever put to the screen, or the small one, or we played it on a big one in vie. So this is something that I had Definitely I was not aware of this. This is pretty troubling. I saw one little news segment on it flash past the r slash news reddit subreddit, and uh clicked on it, looked for a second, but there was no information of what was going on when I first looked at it. This is again, as Mal said, several weeks ago, and actually it was a while ago now at this point, but I don't know. I figured we'd at least discuss and I found a few others waras that I want to mention before we finish this whole section here. So let's start with the most recent fires that were occurring in Masonic lodges in Vancouver, and this is around March, like late March of when this is occurring. So first I'm gonna jump to a Vice News article. It is titled police investigating Arson's after three Masonic temples in Vancouver set on fire. And as you go through this um you can see that there are a few places. The Masonic Lynn Valley Lodge in North Vancouver, there was a fire there early early in the morning, around sixty Then fifteen minutes later they were at another lodge, this time Duke of Connat Lodge number of sixty four. Then fifteen minutes after that, so we're talking one too, three within the span of forty five minutes. Uh. Fifteen minutes later at twelve kilometers away, Park Lodge Massonic Center went up in flames. But this one wasn't. That third one wasn't damaged quite as much as the others. So obviously, right off the bat, if you're an investigator or if you're you know, someone working, you're a fire person, and you're responding to these things, you're on a rescue team or something something is wrong, right, you're getting all of these emergency calls coming in. You realize, okay, there's a targeting that's happening here. Very quickly, though, one man was picked up, and at least according to the story, he was seen walking away from one of the scenes by a few witnesses. So CBC reported, and I'm gonna jump over to an article from them. It is titled Alleged arsonist arrested after three fires at Masonic lodges in Metro Vancouver area, and I'm going to read directly from this article says that the arrest came after an off duty police officer driving past one of these Masonic temples that have been targeted. He noticed a man walking away from the building as it burned, and uh, he was like, hmmm, that's interesting. And you can actually see video. I wasn't able to locate this exact video that's referenced here, but there's a video allegedly that shows one of the temples on fire. This alleged person is walking away carrying what they call a jerry can so like a gasoline canister, and you think, oh, likely, suspect bits us. And in that occurrence, a man got away, but he they ended up catching up to him and they put him under arrest. And you can only imagine how many more of these fires would have occurred if this person didn't get arrested pretty quickly, because again, three fires in forty five minutes, that's efficient and someone on a mission. And just like that Dre and Eminem song, I believe he was caught literally holding a camp full of gas. There you go, it's exactly like that Dre song is Eminem in that one. Yeah, yeah, canful of gas, a handful of matches, still one found out. Yeah it's true and it's really good man, but thank you. But I I'm just saying that because it sounds like something that doesn't usually happen in real life. He was found literally holding a can. And one thing that may be familiar to our listeners of Vancouver that is pretty depressing. I think to some of us is that we know this guy's name and I hate to say it, but he is a Ben. He has a fellow Ben. I apologize on behalf of everybody for Benjamin Coleman. I have a plot twist for you, Matt, Noel and Doc if you check the chat. First off, I found his Facebook page and he really did, because Ben's are tight like that, and I well, we have a bend sense and uh, the legally we have to say this guy is not being convicted of anything yet, right, But I would draw your attention to a post he made on March or at least this Facebook page. I think it's him. I think it's him, but uh, I don't have hard confirmation yet. Just a lot of things seemed to indicate this is the guy's personal page. March thirty, he posted publicly quote I just cleaned three Satanic clubhouses and nobody could do anything. Whoa he cleaned him? Actually that quote is referenced by Victoria News Ben, So I think you're right on the money. So I guess it must be him, you know, and it's um it's a lesson an ops set if nothing else that was made on the day of the fires too, which is a shame. Do we know much about his uh motivation? I believe that journalists found he had been pretty deep into some ant Masonic theories earlier. And yes, in the Victoria News they've posted an article that says online posts appear to link alleged arsinis to Masonic hall fires in Metro Vancouver, and it goes into a few other things like they're just saying he has a plethora quote plethora of other conspiracy theory posts questioning everything from five G to the moon landing to whether the Earth is around Is he a flat earther? Maybe? Uh? And now that was a very sexy Oh you just did this. Sorry, I didn't mean quiet for our caller from oh Man. But yeah, you know, the thing that stands out about this is, first off, believing in something that most of the other people in the planet don't believe in. It just don't necessarily mean you are mentally ill, no, I, but these sort of actions are indicative of at least some sort of instability, right unless there's something some other intervening variable of which we're not aware, like maybe personal abuse by someone who in his childhood, by someone who became Amazon. Maybe you know that's that's just an example. But there are any number of things that can function as a tipping point or a threshold for these sorts of falling down moments. I'm referencing the film, Yeah, I remember that is a great well film for me. So what happens now he's in custody. You also said there was something else to the story with Masonic halls before this occurred. I did, and I'm gonna do this so fast. Been. Uh, this guy, we didn't mention he was there. We we mentioned that he was seen carrying a jerry can. He ended up getting in a fight with a police officer, arson MP officer. So he's been charged with one count of arson, the one that they saw him at and assaulting an officer of the law. So that's what's happening right now with Ben other Ben, this guy Coldman, and Uh, there's to be more to the story, but right now we don't have much more to report. There. What I would draw your attention to if you go to Freemason's for Dummies dot blog spot dot com. If anyone remembers the book Freemason's for Dummies, it's fantastic. I would recommend it. Um. This is just a blog spot, I guess dedicated to this book series, and there's just a small little post there from June. There's an Oklahoma Masonic hall they got hit by arson. And then I started going down a rabbit hole of seeing all of these cases of arson at Masonic halls and other Masonic temples and places of you know, just meeting places, places of worship. Fascinating, how they've been targeted over over the years that the Internet has been popular. And the earliest craziest thing I saw comes from and this comes out of Manchester, New Hampshire. It's an AP news story. We're not going to go fully into this story, but this is something you can look up in something that I want to do maybe a bigger story on feels like there's a rabbit hole here. The title of the article is Mason's Rocked by embezzlement, death threats, fire bombs, murder, and it opens with a man who was found dead in his burning house, who was uncovering a series of embezzlement cases at his own Masonic lodge. Right, sounds like the plot of like an episode of some sort of procedural crime show. Yeah, let's make a whole other podcast, guys, or let's do a whole episode on it. It feels really great to me. Uh, there's lots of stuff to look up, So anyway, we'll leave you there. Thanks so much, Mel Reynolds. We are going to take a quick break, will be right back, and we have returned. We did not come alone here, We're coming along with Dan. Dan. Here's what you said, low guys, absolutely love the show. You guys do an amazing job. I love the riffing. Thank you for buttering us up there, Dan, I just listened to an episode of The Journal podcast by Wall Street Journal that discussed get this guy's Ellen Musk's space X complex in Boca Chica, Texas. Mind blow? That's all Dan? You know? Little known fact. Dan is a ghostwriter for both Dr DRE and M and m uh He describes He describes this, Uh, the story is the following uh quote, A mind blowing story of SpaceX coming to town and taking over. The Next step, he says, is incorporation of the town and potentially seizing the last remnants of property through eminent domain. Looks like they are a few s ups ahead of blockchains LLC and Nevada Nevada, Sorry everyone, uh creating a corporate autonomous government. Give it a listen. Let me know what you think. Maybe worth a listener mail or strange news discussion. Dan, I had not heard anything about this. Had you guys heard about this? Not at all? Nope. I was aware of you know, we we were aware of the legislation with innovation zones, which got you know, jammed up after public criticism. Uh, but the story of SpaceX without being alarmist, while the story of Boca Chica really is is troubling. Residents are facing pressure from local officials in the you know, in the in the government, and from operators in SpaceX to sell their property. Right now, as of last week, SpaceX has purchased more than a hundred parcels of land in the area. This is public record, this has been confirmed, and it mostly uses that land to house SpaceX employees. But then several other residents are saying when they were speaking with Wall Street Journal, they're saying SpaceX had come to them time and time again trying to buy their property, and they're worried things might get ugly for the people who refuse to sell their homesteads. This happens all the time, right, It happens all the time for for a company moving in to try to buy up somebody's land, right like a Walmarts being built. Someone comes in and says, our footprint is going to have to be this many acres, we need to buy up this much stuff around it, right, And that's not necessarily nefarious, that's how business works. But the issue here is one of maybe mission creep. You could call it because how like, at what threshold does something become a company town. We talked about the Blockchains LLC proposal. We've also talked about the Red Greek Improvement District, which is probably the most successful version of a corporate or a company town, and that is owned by the Big Mouse. So everybody be kind, don't get us sued into the ground. But here's where we're at right now in Boca Chica Village. They're in Texas. Would you care to guess you guys probably already know. Would you care to guess how many people live there that are not connected to SpaceX zero seven? You guys both like, I know we're going low, but you're so close. It's amazing. About fourteen people, Matt, you win seven homes two people each. I yeah, So they're there. Are these stories that are coming out, and one of them comes from a local named Celia Johnson. She told the journal that she started having issues with employees of SpaceX when she rejected their attempt to buy two of her houses or two of her properties rather that were near the launch site. And then uh a huge water tank, like a six gallon water tank on one of her homes, which was a rental vanished in and then she came back as she thought the SpaceX folks stole it. And then she came back and she found that someone had vandalized her house when shared it with a brick had been sleeping there. She and her neighbors accused SpaceX workers of crashing there, which honestly that that seems a little far fetched, or I should say, there's no proof of that being tell there's underlying tension. The company denied all responsibility, but they did reimburse her for the tank and the damage to the house. So so the locals are saying that they're getting they're getting bullied by a large corporation. And you know, it's weird because I was thinking of our experience. You know, Doc, Noel, Matt and I all live roughly in the same area of Atlanta Metro So you guys have probably gotten those weird maybe a text or something in your mailbox that says love your whole would like to buy it now, I buy houses stuff like that. If you guys gotten those, oh so many voicemails like that, unsettling. M Yeah, I don't own a house currently, but I know plenty of folks that do who gets solicited all that. In fact, that's not true. At the house that I rented, we would often get pieces of mail um or or even like flyers taped to the door, uh you know, attention to our landlord. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's and it's funny too because I've been in the same boat as you know or where I would get those and it would trigger just a many existential what am I doing with my life? Totally. It's like, because there have been points of my life where I get one of those wild cold calls or a message or like you said, something taped on the door, thrown on the porch, and it may as well have been saying I'm interested in buying your rolls Royce, And I'm like, come on, man, I felt broke when I woke up today and you're just making it worse. It's sell. It's on my nine D three cell. Uh. So you nailed it. That was a perfect hard joke. So in in this case though, it's different because what we're talking about and our experience in Atlanta is usually going to be uh what are known as house flippers, and so they mean to buy a house, maybe do some renovation on it, and then sell it for a profit. There's nothing wrong or i llegal about that. But what's happening here is that a company is using a tremendous amount of financial muscle to maybe force people into doing things that they ordinarily wouldn't do to other locals. Mary and Harvey Bloomer said that they got an email back in September offering them an a little south of add fifty dollars for their home, and it came with a warning. It was from the Director of Finance, David Finley, and he said, your property will frequently fall into a hazard zone in which no civilian would be permitted to remain. So they're like, buy it because otherwise a rocket might explode on you. Just saying Jesus, just say accidents happened, and this has happened to other folks, other residents. You can read the full article. I do recommend the podcast, and thanks to Dan for hipping us to that. Uh. Some residents have found that they are getting what are called non negotiable deals and then additional offers. They're really getting the hard sell. And then to compound the problem, residents are claiming that they think county officials might be in Spain, a sex's pocket like that. They are also working with SpaceX to get these folks out of their homes or off their properties. And honestly, that's not that's not implausible because if you think of the tremendous economic boom SpaceX is bringing to this to this town, it very well could be a bit of a devil's bargain. Arguably not as bad as say a prison that gets constructed in a town that desperately needs employment. But still, you know, these people bought their houses because they weren't planning to move. That's why they're not reading. Yeah, but it's so messed up to do the cold calculus. Um, I would I don't even know if Elon Musk himself would be making these decisions, are looking at the actual numbers, maybe um, But the team of experts goes, okay, so we've got we've got seven to fourteen houses that are currently being occupied that we need to get rid of, get rid of those people. And then then on the other side, the government is thinking, or whoever is representing the group here, well, if those houses are gone, but we have residential areas for all of these other employees, that's gonna number residents in the hundreds, and they're all buying food locally. Taxes plus sales tax from property tax. We can make a lot more money with spacexes employees, right, And there's you know, there is honestly a little bit of a long term investment slash greater good argument the Boca Boca Chica. The community is overseen by the government of Cameron County, and they have raised their county appraisals of the values of homes. In one case, home was worth thirty four thousand, four and seventy three dollars when SpaceX made its first offer. Uh, and then just uh, just a little bit later in one the appraisals shot up to one hundred and forty one thousand, five hundred seventy three dollars. Homeowners in the audience. That sounds pretty awesome, right, especially everybody remembers two thousand eight, Screw SpaceX. I'm moving to Boca Chica. I can afford a house there. That's right, we do live in a metro area. But but also, you know, they may be attempt they may be just doing a hard calculation of value because of what they're predicting about the economy, and uh, property prices in the future. But Texas also, this area especially, really doesn't want to lose uh SpaceX. You know what I mean. It's a prestigious thing for a state to have. Texas already gave twenty million and incentives for the company to expand in Texas, and Elon Musk is interesting. Back in March, he went on Twitter and pledged to donate twenty million dollars to Cameron County schools specifically, and ten million dollars to revitalize the downtown area of the county's largest city, Brownsville. And this is before he was on SNL. I don't know why I added that. I just remember, did you guys see him on SNL? I did. I saw him on SNL. You you said you were okay with it. I really enjoyed it, actually, um shill, it was good. It was funny. Man. I'm sorry he's got still to deliver. Did you hear what he said? Like he was the He said he was the first person with Asperger's to host a knitted on stage, at least the first person to admit it. That's what he said. It was funny that I was reading up about it and on the Instagram account for SNL. I believe like all of the comments were very negative towards him before the show aired, and then when he came out into that thing about having Asperger's and immediately all turned very positive, which is kind of interesting considering that people are just so afraid of being canceled or are seen as being able list in some way that they can like spew all this venom about a guy and then one little thing while it was oh we actually we we we we loved them all along, Um, Psyche, well whatever. Pete Davidson has a recurring character that they produced an incredible like digital short for. I mean some of the stuff they can turn around in just a few days with visual effects. I'm like so impressed with that team. Oh whatever, Yeah, yeah, it's and it's it's a great operation. I think we nd update is killing it. Murder Dirt Dirt was a great sketch. Checked that one out if you haven't seen it. Um, we're just shouting shouting out because I think we all you know, watched watched sn L and we were interested to see what the person one of the world's wealthiest people would actually do. So SNL aside, here's where we're at to sew up the story of Boca Chica as it stands now. According to the laws of Texas, to incorporate this village, SpaceX would have to prove to the state that more than two people live in the area. It would have to get a majority vote from that area. And then there's a lot of if then's here, and then if those two steps are successful, then the officials of SpaceX could secure the power of eminent domain. Eminent domain is the epitome of greater good right. Eminent domain is what happens when you lose uh several feet or of your front yard because a road needs to be widened. Eminent domain is saying that the your local government has certain powers that it can use uh to you know, take your property or to make certain alterations in the interests of the greater community. And that kind of That kind of stuff is a necessary evil. It does have to exist in many cases. But the fear here for the non SpaceX residence of the community is that this imminent domain could be used to eject the last people who are still holding out and then allow SpaceX to build a modern day company town. With that mind, do you want to say, the long term goal here is to get off this planet and go into the stars, go deep into the galactic ink. Is it worth it? It really depends on who you ask, just like our problem with just like our question rather about mink and fur farms and the spread of COVID. At this point, we're gonna keep an eye on this. Thank you so much to Dan for hipping us to this story. Thank you to Mal for at the very least reminding us to rewatch Firefly. It holds up. It holds up. If you have somehow never seen it, watch it tonight in Star based, Texas at your Airbnb, and we hope you keep an ear out for an upcoming episode on Masonic Masonic lodges and what's going on with the violence against them. Also keep an eye out for our keep an ear out for our ghost Guns episode. As always, we want to hear from you. Let us know what you think about these things. I'm particularly interested, um Noel in in what's going to come out the emergent news about the origin of COVID nineteen, which were still tracing you know, yeah, I'm interested to see if exactly right then, if it does get traced somewhere other than that wet market, or maybe it was a combination. Who knows these animals get around. I can imagine that the types of animals that are and sold at wet markets could also end up in mink farm situated. I don't know, just just just just I'm speculating here, but also insu to see how this industry will be impacted. So give us your take. 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