From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. You are here, and that makes this the stuff they don't want you to know. This is one of our favorite times of the week where we bring the best part of the show to you. That's the takes, the opinions, the thoughts, the concerns of your fellow conspiracy realists. Peek behind the curtain. We did a double header today. We are trying to more frequently record uh these in sort of like a two pack not not related to music like t w Q pack. But also it is technically Tuesday. It was February two two as we recorded this. Uh and yeah, anyway, it's a nerd joke, but we hit the portal just so everyone knows. The portal did open too today, So just be aware of that, yes, do be do be aware of that and this week's segment, um is really excited at least uh my end, guys, because we're gonna explore some elite clubs that are not secret, but I would argue our our de facto are in practice secret. We're gonna talk about one of my favorite old stories, uh that run into every time with jfk Uh. And then we're also going to hear a really interesting story from our pal Honey Badger. And I'm not sure where this part of the conversation is going to go, but it is a follow up to the very interesting tale we heard about military hardware being stored in abandoned walmarts. And you're like this, there's also a little there's a hint of Disney, so I hope are strange news earlier this week was met with acclaim or approval rather than approbrium, So here we go. Honey Badger says, this is Honey Badger. This email is a response to our listener mail episode in regards to walmarts being used for military storage. Feel free to let Dad Joke sixty nine know about this so he'll know why there are black hawks being stored in walmarts. It's true, Dad, Dad Joke sixty nine is a longtime listener, a good friend of the show very recently. Again, I think it good enough. Wrapper could just do a Cadence rhyme of black Hawks and Walmarts, you know, like, oh yeah, nice Emily Dickinson slant rhyme there. Yeah, it's a good call. No So, Honey Badger says, I was stationed at a black site prison in Bagram, Afghanistan. I was there two thousand one to two thousand two. The prison I worked at is no longer a secret after Biden's glorious departure from that region. The prison has now been taken back by the off Ghan people. Unclear if that glorious departure is sarcastic just the note, because we're getting this via text. While I was there, there was an inmate there named six to six. That was his number. I didn't know his name. Turns out his son had turned him in for shipping unknown experimental explosive materials and shipping containers from Pakistan to the US. He wasn't a pleasure to have in the facility, says Honey Badger. He always yelled about how he was an American and how Richie was blah, blah blah blah blah, No I gave. What I thought was interesting was the conversation between the higher up officers I happened to overhear. This guy would ship fabric to the US, and the fabric would be sown by his companies in the US places that furnished the names like Martha Stewart, Olsen, Twins Clothing Line, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. When this material was found, it was also found that Walmart, Kmart, J C. Penney's, Sears and Toys r US were writing off the weights on the shipping containers, which one of these companies is still flourishing to this day, Walmart. Now let's pause here because we need to just to unpack what Honey Badger is telling us. He's saying that that there was a guy who was turned in by his own son for shipping explosives from Pakistan to the US. That's the kind of thing counter intelligence really wants to know about, you know what I mean. And this dude apparently had a lot of corporate connects. And we know the story of sweatshops and weird obsuccation of brands ultimate like producers all the time, right, Uh, we we know that a lot of like look at Luxotica right. Uh. In this case, what honey Badger is asking is how come these companies that we're receiving this stuff, how come they weren't checking on the weight? Because you can predict, you can measurably and routinely predict how much a container of the same fabric every time is going to weigh. So something might have been off unless somebody who's writing it off or wasn't doing their job. That's the idea. Reminds me of the Great Train Heist and Breaking Bad and the whole emphasis is on making the train weigh the same when it gets checked. So that is a real thing. That is a real thing. Uh. Then Honey Badger continues and says, then there was a scratch our back and will scratch yours deal made where Walmart wouldn't get shut down if the military could use a few of their places for storage. Now, it made look like on legal paper why these other places went bankrupt or whatever, But trust me, says Honey Badger, it's not the reason. Walmart did this to save their asses, and it worked. So the place where everyone spends their hard earned paychecks was once in on some diabolical scheme against the US. I knew about the whole Walmart story and equipment story since the end of two thousand one, and when I saw the whole conspiracy evolved, I was just like, ah, I know why, great? Huh kind of great, Honey Badger if true, and Honey Badger says, want to hear it, Here's where it gets crazy. Just last week, a friend of mine inform me that after I told him this story that not only is Disney one of Walmart's biggest customers, but in two thousand two, Lilo and Stitch came out. Stitches name was Experiment six to six. Was Disney trying to tell us something? What are the chances of that to use Easter eggs all the time? But one that goes this deep? Maybe who knows? Anyway, great show guys, big fan, uh, Honey Badger. So the connection there is that the inmate was known as six to six and Stitch was Experiment sixties six. That that's fascinating, but I think it's also I don't know, we need more to have some kind of confirmation there. But what do you guys think about the idea of a backroom deal of this sort between Walmart and Uncle Sam, like Walmart got caught do it shipping what terrorists? Well, okay, so let's let's go Yeah, let's let's go back to the original message that we got way back in the day from Dad Joke. It was just it was a message that it was a building not necessarily a Walmart. It was a large building that was no longer an existing superstore like a Kmart or Walmart one of those, and it was being rented out by the people that own the property too. I believe it was the Coastguard, maybe in the National Guard, but the military area. They were just renting it out to them so they could store their equipment there. It wasn't as though Walmart the company signed a deal with, you know, the Coast Guard to store their black Hawk helicopters, at least that's my understanding. So that's that's kind of a you know, not to poke holes in Honey Badger's story, but it does feel like there's not a bigger conspiracy there necessarily. Right. It's fun to explore though, because it also gives us an opportunity to talk about the importance of drilling down into the logistics of these things. So a lot of these large entities subcontracts. They don't own the they don't necessarily own the shipping containers, or they don't necessarily own a cargo ship. What they do is they own a an agreement with with one of these pieces, one of these links in the supply chain and company. The size of Walmart by any given metric has tremendous ability to dictate the terms of those deals. But but the reason I'm talking about this about the size and the panopoly of different entities that may be evolved in the supply chain, is that it is possible that Walmart no Like did not have any clue, right even if even if something uh sketchy was on one of their ships or on a container that was marked you know, this is destined for walmartin um uh two below falls West Dakota, which is not a real place unless that game control is real, which I hope uh. Anyhow, the uh the idea then is that it becomes the concept of watching every falling sparrow, or it becomes the concept of a whale not being explicitly aware of every single little piece of algae, or you know, whatever smaller thing you want to imagine. A dietm even. But someone somehow law enforcement found these claims credible and they and they locked this guy up. At this time, Afghanistan very dangerous place. Pokistan ann hotbed for fomenting terrorist acts, you know, or fomenting terrorist operations, I should say, so they're like that part of the story. It seems to me that there could be sand because that happens pretty often. It happens more often than is reported, and like your local CBS news or whatever. But the idea that Uncle Sam would find out about something like this and then find out about Walmart's involvement and then say, hey, we've got you by the Jimmy's. I don't know if it's a real term. Absolutely it is. You know they call a condom in the UK. Uh, well, well they call it a johnny Actually what they ever heard rappers something? They call it a jimmy hat. Oh yeah, okay, well they've got you by the condoms. Um. But but the idea is like that idea is is interesting, but I think we would need a little more, um, explicit info there. But still, yeah, it is. It is true. There there is a lot of military hardware out there in the US it's put in all sorts of places, um, and there are reasons for that, right, as later conspiracy realists pointed out. You know, it's not as if you can kick in the door of an abandoned Walmart holding Blackhawks and then just like push one out the door and then fly it off as as like cool and grand theft autos that would be. The reality is that those things are purposely like decommissioned or uh. Components are purposely uh, not removed necessarily, but they're they're like purposely disassembled to a degree, partially to maybe fit them in there, and then partially uh because they don't want the local yokel crew to pop in and would be the next Florida Man. Right, Florida Man steals Blackhop helicopter along with Gator sidekick. That's unfair. Check out our episode on why That's unfair. We figured out the mystery of Florida Man, and it is depressing h and sad. But this this brings us, they think, also to a larger conversation. Like most most folks don't like to think about those black sites, prisons and honey Badger. You brought this up as a fact, which I greatly appreciate because for a long time they were not treated as fact by the very same government that was creating them. And when we ask ourselves why people don't trust large government entities, it's because their track record is terrible over time, their track record of being transparent with the public is terrible. And it's something that we dive deeper than ever before into. It's something that we can tell you about, hopefully very soon. But trust us when we say that we we already were pretty convinced and now we walked away absolutely convinced. You should always question this government, any government. Just do some digging as soon as you have time, you know, because everything is being told to you through a series of filters. And that's not like governments have to do this sort of stuff. Secrecy is is part of it. It would be like having a pizza without cheese to not have secrecy. It's it's part of you know, what makes a pizza. Ben I keep going back to the quotations that that Honey Badger used with the term experimental explosives on known experimental explosives. Yeah, like, what the heck could that be? And do you think it melts steel beams? I'm sorry I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm just oh boy, we'll have We're fun at parties is what it is. Um. So with that one pause, I wanted to first off, it's always thank everybody who's reached out to the show has reached out to me, and I want to keep the door open to hear your thoughts, especially if you have experience with this, if you have something that could, uh maybe even provide some corroboration for Honey Badger's concepts here. Uh, you can find me at all the personal social media's. You can write to the show directly Conspiracy diheart radio dot com. You can also call us at one eight three three st d w y t k uh and I would like to give a particular shout out for you close out this part of the show to Dwayne who wrote in with a wonderful idea about acquired savalet syndrome, which is very real. Thanks so much. We're gonna take a pause for a word from our sponsors and we'll return with more letters from you. And we're back with another piece of correspondence from from you. That's right, you, specifically you. Uh. This one comes from code name Noel Green, a man after my own heart. Uh as in Grassy and Noel, and he knows that Noel is spelled with a K. But I wanted to go for a little bit of mystery. I probably shouldn't have spoiled it. Should have left it as an Easter day for you all to figure out. It's gonna become obvious after the story that that, he writes us in this email. Um, he writes, loves. It's one of my favorite. So it's very good. It's a good one, and um, here we go, he writes us, Lee for the uninitiated. On the day JFK was killed, three men later dubbed the Three Tramps, were stid in the train yard behind the infamous Grassy Knoll at Deely Plaza, having been spotted climbing into a train car before it pulled away. They were photographed being hauled in by Dallas police, but mysteriously no record was kept of who the men were, and they were released soon after their arrests. Numerous conspiracy theorists have been convinced two of these tramps were none other than Charles Harrelson and E. Howard Hunt of Watergate fame. Now this is me. You may recognize the last name Harrelson. Charles Harrelson is in fact Woody Harrelson's father, the well known actor of Natural Born Killers and other fantastic roles that that you might know Woody from really really great dude uh and and big outspoken marijuana advocate bongo enthusiast or that that's Matthew McConaughey. I think I think they probably both like to play the bongos. But pretty sure both of those dudes have done multiple interviews for High Times magazine. Also fond of very brightly colored like print shirts um you you You'll notice, and a recent cameo pearer in UM Curb Your Enthusiasm as a super heightened version of himself who wants to meet Larry's cow Um and hilarity ensues. Anyway, back to the letter UM. Charles always maintained his innocence and alibi, claiming he wasn't anywhere near Dallas that day. Okay, maybe not always. During a standoff with police following the assassination of the judge, he yelled out that he killed Kennedy, but later recanted the statement, saying he was high on cocaine and also thought the claim might help keep him alive through the standoff that is in fact true. There is a fabulous article in the Telegraph um about just that. The article is called natural Born Killer, The Violent Life of Woody Harrelson's hit man Father by Tom Forty. Um. This story is also the subject of a really really great podcast UM from journalist Jason kavan On that that you can find. It is called On of a hit Man. In the article, it talks about this this exact standoff with the police where he like apparently got so high from intravenously injecting cocaine. Um, he got out of his car, uh and was like super in some kind of like rage hulk mode and like started just shooting his car, you know, with a shotgun. Um, I'm not quite sure why. And then when the police came, he did shout out that he had killed John F. Kennedy. Um. Anyway, back to the letter, Okay, nothing new in there, but that's just the backstory to this tidbit. Naturally, here's where it gets crazy. He says, after Charles passed away, Woody told my friend the following that his dad told him. While he indeed had nothing to do with Kennedy's assassination, per se he Charles had been trained by the CIA to be an assassin, and that he actually was in Dallas on November twenty nineteen. Not only that, but that he had been instructed to be in the area behind the Grassy Knoll. He was expecting to get further instructions, but none ever came. Here's where it gets even crazier still, he says. He said, in addition to himself, numerous other CIA assassins he recognized were there, and none of them knew why either, like none knew who the other was receiving orders from, or maybe he didn't even know who they were. I'm sure a lot of these people were kept isolated from one another. Wouldn't really make sense for them to be like buddies, um, they would want plausible deniability and then so that one person could knock on the other one right. Uh, let's see, he may have made it up. Charles may have lied to him, perhaps to impress his famous son, hoping to compensate for his years behind bars with a claim to having served his country in a glamorous James Bond like fashion. I just don't know, Okay, I'll leave it at that for now. I have a number of other items on my agenda to cover for you guys, including a theory on the flaming objects cited by the guy in boot Camp before Y two K. But uh, for now, I'll bid Adio thanks again for a great show. I learned something they wish I wouldn't know every time I tune in your is in Mystery Noel Green, Um, this is so great. It really touches on a lot of things that are in fact out there, including an interview with Harrelson himself, the the elder Haroldson and a quote, uh from the the younger Harreldson in that um Telegraph dot co dot uk article. He had this to say to the journalist or actually I think it was a piece of tape that they got. Um. I don't know that he directly interviewed him, but um, he would he himself had something super interesting to say. This is from the article. Uh Wody Harrelson said, I think that it was in the trial that was mentioned for the murder of this judge. Um, I think it was not a fair trial. I'm not going to say my father is the same, but I think he's an innocent of that of this killing. What he had also said he believed his father was a secret CIA operative. Um, he says, I shouldn't get into this right now. This is where we're going to get into trouble. I know it's true. Um. And then you know, we found this, uh this this clip on YouTube, very nondescript clip. Um, and I'm gonna share a little bit of it with you guys right now, and then then we'll hear from uh the elder Harrelson's own mouth. Well here before we play this, just quickly, that's okay. Sure, do you guys think if somebody like Woody Harrelson, who has you know, such fame, he's he's known the world over, do you think if his father actually was involved with the CIA, that some other retired agent would at some point divulge that to him. I mean, deathbed confessions are weird. I'm very well acquainted with his story, with all with the angles of the way it's been reported, and you guys know why. So I'd like to thank you Noel Green for writing this out. This is a piece of conspiracy lore, but the issue is one of idology or conflicts. So deathbed confessions are very much a real thing. But also people locked away in prison lying in hopes of some betterment. That could also be a real thing. I'm not I maybe met Woody Harrelson once. It was a really weird time and we didn't talk about this, but uh huh, well it was him or a guy who looked exactly like him. I'm not going to tell the circumstances of the story on on this show, but it was. It was in a parking lot behind the local and I'm pretty convinced it was true. But cool dude, at least from that conversation. Also, you know, you have to ask people's motivations for saying these things. Um, if the c I A story is true, which hasn't been confirmed asn't improven, but the idea of multiple people not knowing who was whom, but recognizing each other as maybe mutual fans of their work, um, that could be possible. But if it were possible, it would remind me of the old practice of uh, in the days of firing squads. If you ever been around of firing squad, one of the really common things that we do all the time in the early days was to have one gun loaded and the other you know, four is six or whatever. However, many people were there. The other like four or whatever would be would not be firing live round seef be firing blanks so that you could live without thinking that you had murdered someone in cold blood. Interesting anyways, never thought about just that perspective to the benefit of the the executioners not knowing which is the one who actually dealt the killing blow. Canna play this clip real quick. I do think it's interesting to hear from him, and then maybe we can discuss a little further because he references, He references all of these things and then kind of waffles a little bit in a very interesting way. No, I did not kill John Kennedy. That is a photograph of one of three so called triumps who were apprehended and then mysteriously disappeared on the day of the Kennedy assassination. And the fellow was I'm told at one time positively positively identified as myself, which is ludicrous if you look at the man. I was twenty five the day Kennedy was assassinated, and I would say that gentleman is probably in his mid the late thirties at the very least. But the facial structures um isn't even close. Man, that's amazing, isn't. That is closer, much closer. But here again the person is probably in his thirties, and the brower ridge isn't isn't the same here, but it is. It does look very It looks a lot more like me. I would say this view than does the other. But no, I don't know the gentleman, and I never did know. Everyone who was involved in that thing has been eliminated. Had I been involved in it, I would have been killed. Had I been approached to be involved in it, I would have laughed, because it's obviously a case of emilation. You're going to destroy yourself by doing something like that, because the agency involved and carrying out this assassination cannot have someone with firsthand information regarding the assassination. No way the country would destruct if that came forth. I mean, he's he's he's right, you know. I love the way he's puzzles over this, and then kind of was like, oh, it does kind of look like me. But I never would have agreed to do something like that unless he was already under the protection of the CIA, unless he was already an asset of the CIA, as were maybe those other tramps. This section is not necessarily a long term investment strategy million percent. Of course. You know, you're you're made to feel as though you have the protection. Then you become a lie of ability, and then to his point, you you get eliminated. But I mean, I don't know, but this, yeah, I could reach you in prison, of course they could. I do think this is one of the more convincing conspiracies around the jfk assassination. And uh, I know Woody Harrelson. You know, he's got a reputation as being a bit of a bit of a kuk uh maybe you know, hitting the wacky tobacco a little too hard. But he also, you know, he's an interesting guy. And then he obviously believes this story about his father being there. If you're listening, Yeah, seriously, I'm mainly referring to maybe sort of the reputation he has in public. I mean, it's even something they played into in his cameo in Curb. I'm not being mean. I love what he Harrelson. I think he's awesome, but I think he does get a bit of a reputation and is painted by the media as being this sort of like you know, fringe e radical and that's totally the character they over emphasize in in curb. Um. But he does seem to believe that this story is true. Uh, that somebody told him. That's uh, you know, someone who is reputable. I think it's really interesting. And he's still in prison, right, he hasn't passed you know, he did just passed away. Okay, we'll probably never know that, but uh, that's all I got there. Guys, it's chilling, kind of don't you think hearing this tape especially, I'm not sure what this is from. Um, I'm not quite sure what this documentary footage that that that is on YouTube is from. Yeah, it's it's it's very unclear. But um, i'd love to see the whole thing. Let us know if anybody recognizes that audio, where where the the larger with the larger context might be. We just played the tiniest clip of it. But I would love to watch the whole the whole documentary. But UM, let us know what you think. Let us know if you have any insight into this, or if your friend with Woody Harrelson, or if you're Woody Harrelson yourself. UM, we'd love to know. Um, in the meantime, let's a quick break and then'll be back with one more piece of listener mail. All right, and we are back when we are jumping to a message or own voice mail system. And it sounds a bit like this, Hey guys, um shows y'all want to But I just wanted to talk about something that I came in the possession of that I'm not really sure I'm supposed to have. So it's it's a small nine page book and it is literally just a list of names. And uh these names are like the one per cent of the one percent. And uh the book is is a member's list for this exclusive something or another social club in New York City called the brook b r o o kay Um. The names are people like Michael Bloomberg, Lord William Astor, uh Godman, Princess Saudi, Princes, English Princes, uh, David coax in here. Uh, just just all sorts of things anyways, Um, Jim and I got I mean, it's in his nineties and I've been doing this just you know, household work for him and his wife during the pandemic. And uh he is a member former Panama Exact. But his resume really makes you wonder what kind of role this club plays, and you know, for small hand at plays and shaping the way of the world runs like he went from being a Panama exact working on the board as I think it's called Opus group, which literally determined like where cancer drugs went, like how they were allocated. And it seems to me like the kind of you make when here in one of these clubs, your buddy says, hey, well, why aren't gonna work for me? You know, I'll pay you twice as much just to uh tell people they can't, you know, have our drug one thing or another anyways, Um, it really makes you wonder. Um it's called the Brooks Social Club. Not sure if I should have shared those names, but man, yeah, yes, what was that guy from the older generations of TV? Yes that for a dollar? Well so in collaboration of those characters. That's awesome, man. And this is a proposed to another conversation we had off air. Uh, state's up there. So the brook Club, Matt, you did. You did some great digging on this. It's something it's similar perhaps to some stuff we've talked about in the past, the idea that there are these exclusive private entities you know that go there are much fancier than but he mean growth, by the way. So the first question, a lot of people in the crowd today are good to have it in their minds, is this not? Is the Brook Club real? The Brook Club is very real, and it's probably not as excitedly scary as you maybe hope or imagine from that message from anonymous person. Thank you very much for calling in. By the way, it is one of the social clubs that currently exists, that has existed for a long time in cities across the world, especially in places like London and New York, maybe Philadelphia, Boston, there are social clubs like this. Atlanta, Atlanta is one of those cities there across the world. I found an article from the New York Times from nineteen o three for real, and it is titled new club is launched, an exclusive organization with peculiar advantages, and it is called the Brook Guys. Uh. It's named after a poem by Tennyson. Are you familiar, Ben, I'm assuming you are Alfred Old? Yeah? Is it? It's Song of the Brook right, And I believe that's it. The line is men may come and men may go, but I go on forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's the Brook. I had to look it up real quick just to double check. I mean, uh, it's it's a beautiful line in the poem, you know what I mean. Yes, And the reason why they used that line and this concept of the Brook is because it was going to be very different from the other social clubs that existed in New York City in the early nineteen hundreds. They were going to make that baby open twenty four seven. Yea, No matter when you need to go sneak away from your loved ones or the people who are around you in your daily life and you're working, you can sneak away and read a newspaper around a giant table, or have a meal perhaps, and share some discussions with other men. Only a hundred men, because only dudes, and only one hundred or I guess ninety nine other dudes who also might be let in, because there were only going to be one hundred members at any given moment of the Brook. This thing is, this thing is fascinating to me, uh, the the way it's written about in nine three by the New York Times. It is just a regular old thing. It's another one of these clubs. These gentlemen's clubs, not the kind that you think of right now, not the kind most of us listening to could get into. It's the kind that you couldn't get into. Yes, this is no cheetah. It is, in fact a it's like a Piedmont driving club kind of thing. It's a it's a club where you go to socialize, specifically with men, and there's some great stuff you can find line about this place. You can find out roughly where it is in Manhattan. You can look it up. I won't give the address here because I don't want anybody just running over there because we're talking about on the show. But you know, no harassment, everybody. It's a private social club that still exists in Manhattan. Think about that. Though a private social Yes, it's no one feels like that's whatever. Yeah, can I tell you? Can I tell you was also a member? Oh please, I've got a I've got a notable members list here. I hope you name my favorite sith lord. Well, the first one ties directly to the previous story. John F. Kennedy was allegedly a member of the Brook. Yeah that makes sense. A blue blood. I thought you might. I thought you might mention Henry Kissinger, who is I feel like I had to do this every time I bring him up in a show. Who is still alive? Henry Kissinger? Still alive? The most diplomatic thing you could say is he's a CONTROVERSI will figure. But I did rightly describe him as a sith lord, and not without not without reason. So he's in there, you know what I mean. Our caller mentioned Lord Liam Astor, princes princes from Germany, Saudi Arabia, David Coke, John Jacob Astor is in there and mentioned by a couple of websites here, William K. Vanderbilt the second, Oh, that was John Jacob Aster the fourth. I apologize right right right, because old money gets terribly uncreative when it comes to naming their children. Uh. This, this is is fascinating, But we should say immediately the existence of a place like the Brook does not necessarily mean there is anything untoward, anything um ethically front or anything even like illegal going on. They could just be hanging out because they want a quiet place to read, which you and I talked about a little bit off Airmatt, which I totally agree with. The problem is that there is tremendous opportunity for corruption here, just like the practice of lobby Like you've got the one of the richest got wait no, at the time, John Jacob ast her Forth and trying not to say that to the cadence of John Jacob Genalheimer. Um, but anyway, Astor was the richest dude in the United States, and he was hob nobbing with people who would be able to put their hands on the wheel of policy. Right, so you could conceivably have conversations in this club that later turned the course of um turned the course of the law to your preference. You know, like if you were remember this club, and you had you know, kind of hot, hot shot kid who got in trouble, you know, hit, hit a building, drive in a car, or something like that, then this, your friends here at this club, would be able to get that erased. It's just possible. Doesn't mean they did it. It's just just possible. I'll give you, I'll give you club membership. Reasoning from Anthony le June, writing for City Journal. I believe this is n yes when when Anthony le June wrote this. The article he wrote is titled A Tour of New York's club land, and what Anthony states little ways down the article is quote nobody joins a New York or London club for the gastronomy what one clerical club man called, quote the piece of cod which passeth all understanding unquote is all too common. Fair conversation is supposed to be the point, or rather, there are two conflicting points, refuge and company, which is why real club men need at least two clubs, one where they can hide grumpily behind the newspaper and another where they can talk. So according to Anthony East, it is a social club. It is to have thriving, interesting conversation. Yeah, you know, the descriptions that we just had hypothetically of covery, up crimes or altering laws are both thriving and lively. It's i mean, all those Bohemian grove conversations, I'm sure are quite illuminating. And like there's another thing here too, which is you know, we're we're on record saying this. Whenever we find out about secretive organizations, one of the first things we try to do just for ourselves is figure out what like their typical menu contains, if they if they have food, and at this point Matt, I don't think that's on on the record, right, I don't think so. There within the Anthony let June article, there is one moment where he discusses one of the clubs in New York has a grill, essentially a large grill that operates all the time while the club is open and there's no menu. You literally walk up and just request something and they make it. And they don't keep lists of who eats what. You just go up, you ask for something, they make it for What a stressful What a stressful position for the person working the grill. That's terrible. I'll have one hawk of lamb roasted and I will lead it whole, so the juices dripped down my face and manly chest to ortlan and the eye of a lying child, you know what I mean. Like, I don't know if you no, we're exaggerating, but that that's pretty that's pretty amazing. It is in the concept of the brook. I was twenty four hours that you just get to go and just be. You're the most important person and all these other people are the most important persons and only one d of you exist vibe. But that's why I hang out a waffle house, lovely, just give you some more names of clubs if you're interested in looking this kind of stuff up. There's the Union Club, Knickerbocker Club, Metropolitan Club, and there's so many more now that have cropped up over the years. There's all kinds of stuff that we could get into if we wanted to talk more about these, But gosh, I highly recommend going to the Wikipedia page for Brook Club or the Brook Club and find this nineteen o three article because there's a link. There's a link to it down there in the bibliography, and just read it. It's wonderful just how it was written about in nineteen o three. And also we gotta mention just that one rumor that I love so much I'll start club. Yeah, can you share that? Can you share that with the class you? You gotta do it? Okay? Well, allegedly, according to many places that have written about the Brook online, and there there aren't that many, but all the ones that write about it, they tend to mention this that there is a rumor that the Brook was founded by quote two former members of the Union Club who were expelled after trying to poach an egg on a bald member's head. Oh, That is the height of decadens right there, Jerry, Jerry, don't move for a moment. I'm standing Steve. I'm someone's cracking an egg on your head. Jerry, gross off shot, that's the origin of egg on the face. Oh no joke. I'm choosing to believe you, and we'll think nothing else from this moment forward. But this reminds me of that offshoot secret society that like kissed the bulldogs butt holes? Remember that one? Oh yeah, yeah, how are those guys? I'm sure they're fine. What were they called? Though? They were they were an offshoot of like, um, I want to say Rosa Crucians or something, and they have these little they weren't real. They weren't real. They were statues. There were statues, um, but they were crawling all fours and like kiss the the anus of the of these small dog statues. Was it what I think they were? Pugsy kissing butt holes? Search histories. It's the order of the pug, the Order of the pug. And it was a French thing that I believe the creators were banned from. Was it Catholicism? And it wasn't to do with religion. After the Pope banded, the Freemason joining Freemason. So these people get up to stuff. It's true. Who doesn't like to belong to a club that was a great deep cut. You can learn more about that on Ridiculous History. I think we'd use that. True. Yeah, and this Matt with all now that you know all this, and Anonymous, thank you for writing to us, because one important point I think we should know about the Brook in the modern day is it it's one of the few private clubs of its kind left. Is it that correct? I don't know. I think I think places like Montauk Club, which has been around since nine still exists. I think is the knicker Barker Club not a thing anymore? I'm pretty sure it is. It's so fun to say. I hope it's still around. What did you do with the Knickerbocker Hotel in New York? Ah to East sixty Street, It's still around. Knicker Bocker Club is still around? Yeah, I mean I think most of these are like the Pimot Driving Club was established in the eighteen hundreds here in Atlanta. I mean it's like, well, the thing about the Brook and the Knickerbocker in the Union, the thing that's so interesting about these clubs from an outsider perspective. To be clear, is that the Brooks started because these two guys apparently thought the Union Club either stinks at partying or they're no fun when it comes to eggs. But the Niggerbocker Club, according to the story, started because they thought the Union Club had lowered standards of admission. Who are they going to let next the left? We can, yes, dude, you can read about that in the tour of New York's club Land by Anthony L. June. There's discussion in there about how they started to admit bankers and attorneys who were, yeah, trades, that's how they referred to it, like oh, he started, Oh you know, these are what attorneys? That was not good enough. They don't differentiate. They don't differentiate banker. There are people who had jobs, which means you don't believe the Knickerbocker Hotel has anything to do with the Knickerbocker Club. Just just for the record, but it's just a phrase, nicker Bocker. Yeah, I'm sure I had inspired by or I don't know if this is a person or what is the knicker Bocker people from Manhattan basically our knicker Bockers. Gotta yeah, I believe that's correct. Someone, if you're a nicker Bocker, right in, if you have a if you have a membership at the knicker Bocker Club and feel that you have the history of the club has been unfairly represented, please also right in? Also, can we get an invite, uh, you know, just to pop in, just like a guest pass, like in a gym. That's a thing, right, I'm actually going I'm actually working on forging a collaboration with a club like that in Atlanta. So I will give updates once we have more info. I want, I just want a shotgun. These are all These are wishes. These are wishes we could we could grant everybody. Someone in the crew needs to have shotgun in general. You know, uh, these days this brings us to a bitter sweet clothes because we enjoy these conversations. Were grateful, as we said, for everybody's time. But it's a little bitter sweet for us because we haven't gotten to all the correspondence yet on our continuing mission to explore strange new thoughts. I'm kidding, I don't know how far we can get with that paraphrasing before he gets sued. But the point is, if you enjoyed this, we'd love to have you on there. We'd love to have you aboard. 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