In this week's Listener Mail, Ben and Matt explore the mystery of ancient liquid mercury in burial sites across the planet. A listener asks about influenza, Covid and cover-ups. The guys share messages from your fellow Conspiracy Realists about the long-term, often unexplored, consequences of nuclear testing in the Marshall Islands.
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From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt. Our compatriot role is on adventures. They called me Ben. We are joined as always with our super producer, all mission controlled decads. Most importantly, you are you. You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know. It's that time of the week where Matt and I like to put our money where our mics are and here from the best part of this show, which is you, specifically you, and we have I think we mentioned this in an earlier episode or an earlier listener may a segment. We have done it, Paul, Can we get some kind of sound effect of just like riotous applause, music, trumpets, trus There it is, yes, yes, air horns, maybe a gunshot, Okay, I'm over doing that. There it is perfect. That perfect. We're celebrating because because we we got together and you know, we've talked for a while in the past about how we were somewhat overwhelmed by all the amazing calls we get specifically, UH. And we have a system that Matt created two go through every one of your calls, hopefully before the like our system expires them and then log them and figure out how how to respond, figure out what trends are there, things like that. So we institute. We did something we should have called operations scorchmail, but we scorched voicemail whatever we called it. Uh. And we are pretty much up to date, which means we have hundreds of calls that we have heard from you, specifically you and today, Matt, I was thinking that you and I could uh take a couple of these around the block. Unfortunately, we can't yet do an episode that's in blocks of a hundred voicemails. I think we'll see what you guys think, but I don't know. So right now, we're still keeping it to a to a three act structure. However, we've got a uh something a little different. We're trying at the end that we hope you enjoy and let us know if it works for you. Because we're always always work in progress here on stuff. They don't want you to know, uh, Matt, you and I talk briefly about this first voicemail, uh that I can't wait to get your take on this, because this is something it's unbelievable that we haven't talked about this yet. All right, well let's play it. My name's Ernest. I am a big fan of the show. New listener, but still a big fan. And there's a giant pool of mercury that was found. I forget where it was on an Ancient Aliens ones, but they found a giant pool of mercury, and they were talking about how super conductors, if they're kept cold enough and actually hover on mercury. It's crazy. I don't know if you guys have heard about this. Uh, there's like theories and such about how that's how the Pyramids were built and all that unexplainable phominans from our five thousand years ago. It'd be great to have you guys do a spot about it because I don't really know much about it and I can't really find a lot of information on it. Thanks, have a great day. Nice Thank you, Ernest, and welcome aboard man. Thanks for checking out the show. Yeah, okay, so first of all, we're talking about ancient Aliens. Now, anyone who's been listening this show for a long time. You know, we love us some ancient aliens, but you take those with the meteor sized crane of salt. But there's still stuff in there that is fascinating and that is worth looking into. And my goodness, this is one I had never heard of. Been. Yeah, it's one of those. Uh. So long time listeners know that Matt and I were definitely kind of bookworms, were always reading about things like the I still have my entire collection of the Time Life Mysteries of the Unknown set. Uh. That's true. Yes, I wouldn't shut up about it. Uh. And this is something that I placed squarely in the world of stuff they don't want you to know. If any of this is true, then this could be hidden history. So earnest, what we'd like to do is reply to what I see as three points in in your wonderful message. Uh, and then we'll take them one by one. So first, maybe the smallest point to get out of the way. Yes, at temperatures below about four degrees kelvin, mercury does become a superconductor. The next question is how cold is four degrees kelvin in fahrenheit? Four degrees kelvin is equal to negative four hundred and fifty two point four seven degrees fahrenheit or negative two hundred sixty nine point one five degrees celsius for the rest of the world. So this this is quite a burden, right. If you want to create a superconductor with mercury, the first thing you have to do is figure out how to it it's that coal. Yeah, More importantly, how to keep it that cold long enough for it to do what you wanted to do. And frankly, from everything we understand about ancient uses of mercury and probably didn't have the technology to do this on a reliable, reproducible scale. Next point, earnest. Yes, liquid mercury has been found in ancient sites. It's been found in ancient tombs. There was liquid mercury found under pyramid in Mexico. There's a great story about that from the Guardian. And this the mercury they found so liquid form. Of course, it's at the end of a tunnel beneath this Mexican pyramid known as the Pyramid of the Feathered Serpent. This is in uh Tatwak and this city in the ruins of the city and sent troll Mexico and the folks who found this, you know, they're legit archaeologists. They're not They're not just trying to get news stories because they're publishing a book or something like that. This is their work, this is their job, These are their careers. UM mercury is is weird because, as far as the experts know, in the case of meso America, UH, mercury didn't have in a readily apparent practical purpose. But it has been discovered at other sites. So because it's been found at other ancient sites in this part of the world, it leads us to believe, or to reasonably assume that mercury at least served a symbolic purpose. Of course, there's always the possibility that it served some practical purpose that we in don't understand. It could have been courting one guy, Dr Gomez, Sir Geoe Gomez. It could have been symbolic of an underworld river or lake. I don't know, what do you think about all this so far? Mat Well, the first thing I think is eight what is it, one hundred years ago roughly or something like that, when when these folks were entombed, or at least this one into t Wakan how did they get the mercury there? How do they get a pool of mercury? And how badly poisoned was that person or persons that moved all that mercury. Um. No, I totally see what you're saying, because it doesn't make much sense if you are imagining yourself in our current understanding of what life was like for humans in that time, what would you use mercury for outside of, like you said, some kind of symbolic purpose. Um. And in the big question here, and the one that Ernest puts forth is well, maybe there's a different purpose there was practical that has something to do with maybe a technology we just didn't know about or don't. Yeah, see this is the thing. Okay, there's another thing you need to know about this too, Earnest. Uh, there's other stuff that has yet to be explained in in different parts of this complex, in archaeologists were using a robot How cool is that too explore an unexcavated portion of a tunnel, and there they found these metallic spheres that they called disco balls near some pye rite mirrors. Uh, they call them because why not? They called them disco balls because it's unique, you know, what to make of it, so it was up to them. It's kind of like when you're a if you're a biologist. You know, biologists and days of old might discover an animal or organism they completely didn't understand, and they would just sort of name it after something they were familiar with, or name it after a mentor or a teacher that inspired them, or of course, because they're humans, they would name it after themselves. So they would be like, and I don't think now, I think you would ever do this. We'll pick on Paul today. They would be like, I'm naming this Paul's Kimoto. This is Paul's lizard. Everybody call it that, and then you know, people would run with it. So maybe maybe in the future these things will just continually be referred to as disco balls. So the point is there's weird stuff here, more so than just the liquid mercury that's yet to be explained. We know that Mesoamerican societies could produce liquid mercury, and we know how they did it. They took cinnabar mercury, or they use cinnabar to create the red pigment that was used in the society for decorating royalty and jade objects and artifacts. So in the process of heating this or they could make liquid mercury. So this is this is something that's known. However, if someone says, okay, the ancient alien folks are taking one weird too, the Mesoamerica, and they're just they're stretching it to make an episode. There's another part of the world, ancient China, where there's also mercury. The first emperor of China, chin Chi hong U, died in to ten b c. He created the first unified nation from China and in central China. His tomb is surrounded it's like buried in this hill and it's surrounded by this moat of mercury. Yes, so they did it too. That brings us to other things. So that did they independently these civilizations, Did they independently decide the mercury was the jam for prominent dead people and their civilization or did they find some kind of efficacy there that we don't understand? You know? Maybe the most one of the more out their ideas is were they in contact somehow that has yet to be documented. And did someone in ancient China, which predated what this meso American too. Did they somehow traverse the Pacific and say, among other things, Hey, you know what's cool putting mercury in the tombs of your prominent cadap man. You know, we talked about this all the time in just our thinking and just all of us are thinking has to be measured a lot and refined when we just from our even our history classes, stuff that's in textbooks when you're growing up and going to primary school and stuff like that, just how we have to reshape our brains a little bit of what we're thinking about societies that have come before us to make sure we're not, you know, on some high horse. No matter where you're from, or what you look like, or where you come from, just make sure you're not looking down on on on people and cultures. And I I have to say, I'm flummixed when it comes to this mercury. But unless it really is just what you're saying, because I can totally see the reflective nature of it, the strange I mean, mercury. If you look at mercury right now, it's weird. It doesn't yeah, it's so cool. It doesn't seem real, it doesn't seem right, any any liquefied metal just feels very strange, especially one that's at room temperature or just you know, sitting on the ground or in a cup or something and still looks like that it seems to be imbued with special properties because in a way it kind of is very much. So. Yeah, and that's that's an excellent observation. I mean, for anybody. You and I have talked about this before, when we looked into things like megaliths, or we looked into stone circles, these ancient feats of amazing engineering. Um, the past is really a conversation. The past is a series of evolving questions that were ultimately asking of ourselves and our predecessors. And whenever somebody gets on a high horse about people of years and millennia gone by myself included, we always have to remind ourselves. If you traveled back in time to the time of the people you're ducting on, the odds are overwhelming that you would be kind of useless. Like that we would be kind of useless. We wouldn't. I mean, we might have a leg up on certain diseases, we might have an understanding of certain things, but like, could you build a solar panel. Could you build his television? Could you build a car or a gun? For most people, probably not? Uh? And then think of all the things that the average person nowadays can't do that the average person back then probably could. Like can you grow and maintain a crop and see it through for a year such that you can feed yourself if you say crops are boring? Well? Can you hunt? Can you make the tools you need to hunt? Let's stop dunking on these people. That's their different varied knowledge sense. And I know there are select few of you out there who can do this with without even question, without even thinking about it. But can you effectively start a fire from nothing? That is so much more difficult than it sounds. Uh? Well, unless unless you get trained or you're an eagle scout Ben, or you know, you've just watched a couple of YouTube videos which you can do and teach yourself. But it is still difficult even if you know how to do it. I'm gonna say this, and this is just my opinion. Some people may disagreement. Lighting a fire the like old fashioned. I just went out in the woods and found the stuff to make a fire. Lighting a fire it sucks really just just get some flints with you, just carry a lighter and don't mess it up. It's just like her waterproof matches. That's fine too. It's just like the bow and the stick method. It's just yeah, I get a tinder box. Yeah, this will sound weird out of context, but we love fires. Here's stuff they don't want you to know. It's an important piece of human technology. Well it's not really human technology. It's just something in the natural world that we've managed to work with but never quite domesticate or tame. Uh. The mercury thing, right, so we know, we know there's a mystery of foot. It's happening in what current understanding tells us is to u two different cultures. Minimum, they're probably more two different cultures divided by geographic space and divided by linear time. We're doing relatively similar things with mercury. We do know a little bit more, like archaeologists haven't even agreed on the proper name of the mes American Society that we just mentioned, but we do know a little bit more about this time in ancient China because we have documents from that time, actual physical writing from this time. And the story is that at the time, ancient Chinese thought said that mercury could bestow immortality. So the emperor was taking mercury pills to help elongate his lifespan, and that probably killed him by the age of thirty nine. I'm pretty pretty comparatively young for the modern era. Wow, so they thought it was medicinal and uh, that belief would prove to be incorrect. I don't want to spend our whole time on this, but I do want to set up something that will be our a full episode in the future. Earnest, I hope you tune in the third point you made that. Really, I don't know about you. Mad stuck with me? Could this be used to levitate things? Was this in some way powering something? So what's interesting about this is that there is something called vimana. Uh these mythological flying chariots or palaces that are described, um, they are described in ancient Sanskrit and Hindu text as though they are real. They're like they're described it's not like, let me tell you a fun story kind of thing. They're they're described as though they are actual vehicles or cars or chariots of the gods. And they don't want to spoil too much of that at this point, but Earnest, it's on our minds as well, and we would like to make this a future episode. So thank you for calling. I hope that it's interesting to to learn that we can confirm at least two of the three things you mentioned. Mercury is a superconductor at a very low temperature. It has yet to be explained why ancient civilizations that seem to have never met would treat it with the same sort of or holding in the same high regard. And and if you want to watch that Ancient Aliens episode that Ernest mentioned, it is at least according to this website that I'm looking at season eleven, episode four, and it's called the Mercury Connection. And we've returned Matt's I can't be the only person who is having this weird vibe. I hated this weird vibe that I've been feeling all pandemic, Like you go somewhere at the grocery store, you have to go out and then someone coughs yeah, and the and the energy and the room changes because the question the big badger in the bag is is this a common cold or is this COVID? Hi? Guys, look here, I'm calling that a George. I was definitely like you guys to do this on air. I would love to know what to think about it. I know we've talked a lot. You guys talked a lot about COVID lay thing or every guy has done a couple of episodes on it, and uh talked about you know, maybe it's being a conspiracy. I also have a theory of my own. I believe that it is a conspiracy very much as well. And I believe that COVID is nothing more than the common flute maybe just another strand of it. And the social media and the news. I believe it's just emploiting you know, all this information about it as far as death hole and you know, hospitalization and everything like this. So what I find really interested is on really any local news social media. I've not seen really anything about flu death this year and the death hold on the common flu. I found that very odd. Uh. I just I'd like to tell what you guys maybe falling about death you don't mind? Yeah, thank you guys, got it all right. Luke from Georgia, it's nice to hear from a Georgia boy. Um, So this is ah, this is a bit of a tough one, Luke, but it's I have to say something that personally has been on my mind thinking about influenza and you know, the coronavirus and just since the end of twenty nineteen, really what what's what's been happening as far as the flu and deaths that are associated with it, Because you know, if you listen to the news, you look at the statistics, you know that a lot of people worldwide get very very sick from common influenza whatever is most common that season, and many die. Um, and let's just talk about that. We're going to talk about a couple of different things that we have found and also what we've been hearing. So the first thing I want to point to is the CDC and their numbers that they have on their website see d C dot gov. When it comes to influenza by season in the United States, there is there's a it's not really an article, there's a page you can find. It's called Past Seasons Estimated Influenza Disease Burden and on here you will find a grid. It it tells you the number of symptomatic illnesses, the number of medical visits, number of hospitalizations and deaths associated with that with that year's flu season. It goes from two thousand ten, like two thousand ten to two thousand eleven, all the way down through the years to nine. Now, if you just look at the numbers and you scroll over to deaths, it shows that from two thousand ten to two thousand eleven, there were an estimated thirty seven thousand deaths associated with influenza in the United States in the in that year. And it also shows you that there's a separate set of numbers just to the right of that that shows thirty two thousand to fifty one thousand. Now that means that this number thirty seven thousand is actually just kind of an average within a range essentially of estimates to how many people likely died of influenza. And it shows you that throughout the years it's generally staying, you know, in the thirty thousands, forty thousands. Sometimes it gets up to as much as sixty one thousand. That was in the year seventeen to eighteen. That's the estimated number of influenza US. But then in two thousand eleven to two twelve, it goes as low to as low as twelve thousand estimated deaths. So you're really looking at a wide range here of numbers that are estimated. And the important thing to note here are the most important thing at least is that these are estimations. And we know this because there's been a lot of reporting on this very question that you're asking, like what what is what's up with the influenza of like who who got the flu? And how bad was it? Did anyone actually die from it? There's an article that was written in Scientific American. It's called comparing COVID nineteen deaths to flu deaths is like comparing apples to oranges. It's an opinion piece. Granted, it was written by Jeremy Samuel Faust was on April, so this is pretty early in, you know, the quarantining and coronavirus epidemic. But it's somebody who was early who early on was looking at this question. And one of the major things that Jeremy points out in this op ed is that it's very difficult for doctors and experts with the CDC and other health experts who are looking at things like this to estimate the number of influenza deaths in any year and that's because, just like with COVID nineteen, as we discussed in our previous episodes, it's tough to know whether someone has passed away due to influenza or due to COVID nineteen and the coronavirus, or if it was something else completely unrelated they just happened to have the virus. Um there, there are also a lot of deaths that go unreported, especially in elderly communities, where it's unknown if you know, this is actually something that caused the death or was some other unrelated thing. Um. There's just a lot of questions there, And the biggest question for me is that I've been unable to find an exact answer to is why why are influenza numbers or why do they seem to be so low this year compared to other years when there are so many COVID nineteen infections. And the best answer that I've gotten so far is that the measures that all of us have been taking to prevent the spread of coronavirus have also hugely decrease the number of influenza spreader events essentially, or the number of transmissions from person to person. That that makes sense to me, right, that probably makes sense to you. But that's the best answer that I've gotten thus far. Yeah, there are there are a couple of other things we could add to this. Uh. First off, I love the point about estimates. Estimates always have a margin of error on some part. And then add to this, there is one phrase used Matt that I want to drive everyone's attention to, which is associated with associated with influenza, associated with COVID. So not everyone who dies of the flu necessarily dies of of the actual infection of the flu. Nor is this the actual infection of COVID that always kills people. There can be co morbid conditions, right, we know that. Um, we know that, for instance, maybe obesity or existing pneumonia can play a huge role in these sorts of things. So what what we're really saying here, Luke, is that at this point, yeah, I would agree with it. I would agree with Matt. While the science shows us so far that these are distinct infections, there are related enough that some of the countermeasures people have taken against COVID also function as countermeasures against flu. Right, You're you're reducing transmission risks through saliva or aerosol, and you're also not in close contact with a bunch of people, which is great for me, but I understand not everybody's bag of badgers. The thing though, is we have to understand now, regardless what anybody's beliefs opinions are, or even regardless of what the latest research is, we're still laboring under a fog of uncertainty. There are people working around the clock to understand more of stuff like this. UM we have you know, we looked into you might I find this interesting. We looked into this work of fiction a while back that was considered to be extraordinarily prescient. It was about a virus that started in China that was named UH something like covid. And then we later found that that look had been um revised and edited to be more relevant in the current day. That's another thing I would be aware of the past can be changed, and changing the past is a little bit more difficult nowadays, but not as difficult as you think. Uh. We know that if you if you want to look further down the line, the dystopian timeline of these infections, then consider this, uh COVID nineteen was not the first of its type. Okay, we're talking like if you if you like cars, folks, think about this um anybody. Anybody will obviously say that the newest Cadillac, one Cadillac, is a world away from the first iteration of Cadillacs. Let me flex just a second, because the first one was badass. The first Cadillacs are like more than a century old, you know, at this point, they're very different, but they're still Cadillacs. So there are things like Mergs that existed before that broke out. There are other things other original stars, the original stars, right, original recipes ares, we can call it. And then flu variants are like this as well. That's why Stephen King's post apocalyptic novel The Stand is about a flu infection. Experts will tell you one of the most depressing similarities between COVID nineteen and influenza is that they're uh, they're punchy, you know what I mean. On a biological level, these guys are nimble and they are quick to mutate. So we know that from multiple factors, we know that some other pandemic would be on the way. I've I've even read people saying this is some sort of training, training initiative to get people, uh to to normalize the idea of massive plaques. I don't think this is the case, because these governments are terrible at cooperating with each other most of the time, but it is statistically inescapable that other things are coming. The thing that I wish more people were talking about is that the next thing down the line. Yeah, man, it might actually be a nasty, uh souped up version of influenza, and it might be something that just can't be medicated around. I think it's a fair question to ask how these things are related, because they have similar symptoms, especially if you don't have the the equipment right to do testing and stuff like that. But as far as a you know, on this show, of course, we don't always agree with each other, but I think we're on the same page here as far as we can see, uh. And this is not based on just our own research. I've been reaching out to some some folks, some audience members of the show who work in this field professionally. As far as I can see, uh, all the evidence points to stars Cove being it's its own thing, uh. And the reason that we haven't seen more reports of flu is to Matt's excellent point about the countermeasures that were deployed, especially during flu seasons, we're still around. Uh. The second point I would I would note is the problem of finite resources for these institutions. I guarantee you a lot of the people who were working on influenza related things they got what could be described as an ocean email that meant they were now working on COVID. If that makes sense. For sure, to speak directly to you, Luke, and anybody else out there who's feeling that same way, I would say that early on in this whole situation, I shared a lot of your skepticism and uncertainty and uh, just questioning officially what's being told to me. It felt very weird. It feels still feels like a weird situation right. This whole thing feels unreal, feels like a movie. UM. What I would say is that I've had very very close people in my world become infected with this thing, and I've seen the effects firsthand. And I think a lot of you listening right now have probably experienced, you know, some some close brushes with this thing, if not fought your own battle with it. UM, I would you you mentioned you're not seeing a lot of stuff in your local news. UM, you know, I we don't all have the same experience, right. But one of the big strengths of having a group like this, you know, where we can communicate with one another and and get experiences and share them is being able to see through other people's perspective. Right, So I would just say reach out. Maybe maybe just because you're not seeing in your local area doesn't mean that it's you know, not real or not what what somebody says it is. It just means that it's not you know, thankfully not affecting you or your local area. Um. And that's really a blessing more than anything else, UM, because it's this thing has ravaged a lot of people. I don't really know where I'm going here. Just Luke, if if you're still feeling like maybe it's not real, I don't know, just reach out to some people and here's where it gets crazy. Maybe that might be a good way. Or just start a discussion and see what everybody else is saying. Here's where it gets crazy. Is our Facebook page for anybody who wants to hop on and have have these kind of discussions. Again with the best part of the show, which is you specifically you uh, you know, I have to say on a personal note, I think I speak for both of us here. Uh, we're continually surprised and in no small way great well for the level of discussion that goes on, like people are hearing each other out and saying, well, I mean, I mean, what do you think about it? You know, and that kind of discussion, I guarantee you is infinitely more valuable than people going in and trying to talk trash. Because I don't have uh, I don't have any peer reviewed studies for this yet. I'm sure one's out there, but I guarantee you nobody is as funny on the internet as we like to think we are, me included, So honest discussion is probably for the best. Matt, what do you say? We take a take a pause for a word from our sponsor, and then uh, try try out this new thing we're working on. Let's do it and we have returned folks. Uh, so we teach something at the top of today's segment. Um, we we get so many, so very many awesome haul A correspondencies, you know, and as we all like, we say, feel free to reach out to us. Will tell you how at the end of the show. You can always, of course, reach out to me directly on social media if you want, uh one thing, I'm just I'm available. I just do want to volunteer you so well. One thing that we one thing that bothered me about the structure of listener mail and maybe you two, Matt, is that we were kind of limiting ourselves to three three pieces of correspondence from you. So we wanted to take the end of today show to introduce a new segment where we found some We found some trends. You know, a lot of us are calling in about the same sort of thing, like uh, psychedelics or the Marshall Islands and sharing stories that we think you would enjoy hearing that we think are important. And there are stories that maybe you don't need to hear from us all because we we talked about we want to share these stories directly with you. Okay, So what we're going to do is play a couple of Lee's voicemails back to back and we will be right back with you. You ready for it? Here we go. These are messages related to in some way to the topic we covered on the Marshall Islands and nuclear testing. Him. My name is Kelsey. I'm from Arkansas. UM, I've lived here my whole life. I was just listening to your podcast episode UM Mystery Mayhem and new the story of the Marshall Islands, which UM I found really interesting because I actually went to college up in northeast Arkansas and UM in Fayetteville, and next to it was a town called Springdale, and UM, a couple of years in I started going to in front Springdale. The first year was kind of just didn't say it, they'll look good news to it. And I went to, uh, Springdale, and I was looking at shall the people, and when my friends started telling me about the Marshall's people and like that there was just a bunch of Marshall Ease Islanders people. You know, I want to be correct about it, but Marshall's people who were moved there. And I don't know how long they've been there or anything, but I've always thought it personally that they were kind of just like moved to a remote location because it is nobody knows about Springdol, Arkansas, and everybody thinks about spring Dol, and UH, I don't know, they just kind of hit him in there. UM. I just thought I would say that, UM, you may know that already, but I love your show. Listen to you all the time, Like, hey guys, UM, my name is Mariah. I love the show. UM. I actually can't get enough of std W I s p K UM, but you're welcome to use my voice. I just got done listening to your Marshall Island's episode and it was super fascinating. I. UM. I come from a family of eight children, and six of us are adopted, and UM, three of them actually are from the Marshall Islands. UM. And my mom, so we grew up in Nevada, which so we knew all about um kind of the nuclear testing. But my mom, we've talked about this a lot. UM she went over there and UM for each three each of the three siblings. UM, they flew out there to the Marshall Islands and it was an experience like they had never had them. My mom has told me just kind of what goes on there and the people there, and UM, my siblings all seemed to have a lot of learning disabilities and my mom thinks that UM, they well, she doesn't know, but she definitely feels like, UM, some of it could have stemmed from the nuclear testing that they have done in the Marshall Islands. So, UM, I guess my biggest thing is just wondering, UM if there's any information on adoptions adoption of Marshalle's children in the United States, UM with learning disabilities uh, and whether or not that could be correlated to UM nuclear testing in the Marshall Islands. So I'm again love the show, UM, big fan, and I just cannot believe all the research you guys do for your shows and just the amount of information that I had. You feel so much more enlightened, and you guys are just doing a amazing job. So thanks by and we're back. Thank you, Chelsea, Thank you so much. Brian. Yeah, I didn't know much about Springdale, Ben, I honestly it was it's pretty tough to hear Mariah's story about her her family there. Um, but man, both of you can't thank you enough for leaving those messages and and talking to us. And I'm really glad that everybody gets to hear them. And we're gonna keep doing this in the future. There was only two in this particular instance. Get ready for some of these, we're gonna start loading them up. If you're calling in and a bunch of other people are calling in about the same thing. We might just play a lot of them towards the end of one of these segments, because you guys have, like Ben said, you have great things to say. We really appreciate your your comments and your opinions and your perspectives, so we want to keep going in this trend YEP, the big one might be psychedelics. Oh gosh, I'm just making the call on that. Yes, yeah, be part of this conversation. You can find us on the Internet in a number of ways and personally, Uh, this is just me speaking. One of my favorite things is to hear about new topics you think your fellow listeners will enjoy in a future episode. So how do I get in contact with you guys? You're asking? Well, you find us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Uh. You can find us on YouTube where we are YouTube dot com conspiracy Stuff. 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