And we have returned with a classic episode as we take a little bit of time off this week, but we didn't want to leave you without a dope beat a step to UFO fans, this one's for you. Oh yeah, where have you seen UFOs? Where have most people seen the most UFOs? That's literally what we're going to talk about today, and that is such an exciting concept. Is it just Skinwalker Ranch? Is it just Area fifty one? Where else? From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Hello, my name is Matt Flashing lights Frederick, and this is eight million Brown. That's bad, but I'm good now, I'm gonna get it. I'm just I'm gonna I'm I'm I've made my bed now I'm gonna lie in it. And then Max Powers astronaut with a secret You are you that makes this stuff they don't want you to know? And do that part from the opening again where you say the thing about the thing, from from something to something, from UFOs to ghosts and government cover ups. You could turn back now or learned the stuff they don't want you to know which is our show that. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to be redundant. I just thought, you know, we haven't talked about aliens at a hot minute. We have not. That is true. That is true, And long time listeners from the video series know that we slightly change the language of the opener over time because we used to have um psychics and maybe UFOs UM. So we haven't had any kind of coverage about UFOs in a long time, and we wanted to come back and explore that a little bit today before we hop on our own very well identified flying object and head out to meet many of you in New York. I'm really looking forward to it. I know at least one of you is going to be there. Yeah, I think so. We're all on the same flight. So if one of us doesn't make it, you guys, you guys, I know you guys gonna be like the beginning of every Marine Corps movie. Look to your left, look to your right. One of you will make it. Oh my gosh, it's so, what is the UFO. Let's just start there. What is this thing? Well, this is a bit of a disclaimer that we have to make at the top of these. The UFO does not mean aliens full stop. It could perhaps who knows, extra tresh reels. It just means it's unidentified, and that means it could be anything. It's true. It could a helicopter. It could be a particularly determined swan. Yeah, that's just having light reflected off of it in a strange way. It could be somebody base jumping, good old swamp gas. Who could be swamp gas. One thing's for sure, A will of the wisp, a will of the wisp? Yes, are you going to be a will of the wisp? Or won't of the wisp? That's good man, it's good of your idea, but that I can see that as like a like one of the posters with the kittens hanging from the tree. You know, yeah, I think you have a future and inspirational memorabilia ahead of you. Thank you, thank you. Well. That's good because if my job were to identify UFOs, I, like most other people who would tipped this endeavor, would be at a loss. There's one thing that a lot of people don't realize about UFO sightings. We know that they happen every year around the globe. But I did not know this if you guys knew this already. Not only are UFO sightings at an all time high, uh, but thereby far an American thing. They're super They're super common in the US and Canada, and more so in Canada. That's right. The findings are based on data that was crunched by Sam Montfort, a doctoral student in Human Factors and Applied Cognition. Was that is that was that a fun acronym not really doesn't really spell anything, no canny can't even can't even speak it. And that was at George Mason University um SO. Monfort wrote up his findings in a blog update that used information from the National UFO Reporting Center, which does have a fun acronym. It's New Fork UM and I feel like that's like a town in Rhode Island, New Fork, Rhode Island. Doesn't it sound like it would be better for right? Exactly exactly UM and New Fork is an organization and that documents UFO sightings. And now, according to this report, these UFAs, the UFOs have been increasingly popping up, with one hundred and four thousand, nine hundred forty seven reported sightings just over the past one hundred plus years. And there's an important thing here too, because what does reported mean after a certain amount of time. It means that it made it into print. You know, like a hundred years ago. People wouldn't count a reported sighting as somebody just talking about it. It will have to be in some sort of official government document, etcetera. So there are probably more than these, and then there's probably a lot that are written down in people's diaries and so on. And of course for the UFO enthusiasts, we know that reported sightings date back into antiquity of just weird stuff in the sky. This is focusing on a very specific period, so they're not saying that those other you know, ancient glimpses has never occurred. What about police reports? Do you think UFO reports ever end up in that form? And are those available to the public by by um, you know, there are stars requests, There are some police reports. Usually it's a person reporting to the police. Then the police will like drop something down. Uh. And then especially if an individual sees a UFO and reports to the police and they also reported to Newfon or move On or you know, whatever else whoever else they reported to, that will be noted a lot of times in the documents there. Okay, so I wonder if anybody has ever tried to use a UFOs citing to get out of some kind of altercation with the police. So as excuse me, uh Sarah, we've had reports of a crack pipe being detected this vicinity as somebody ever said they visited me and they dropped this from the I'm sure someone has those crack smoking et s man, right right. I still think it's the CIA, though more so the extra terrestrials. The first recorded incident in in this report that momfort does apparently occurred in Portland all the way back in nineteen oh five, and viewers reported seeing this buzzing sphere shaped UFO that descended from the sky. But sightings have spiked dramatically over the past three decades, with the reported number jumping from like five thousand and nineteen eighty to forty five thousand and two. What's going on in this report reinforces this idea that UFO sightings are largely a United States thing. The US collectively reports around sightings per ten million people, which is three hundred times more than the global median. That's pretty huge. Feels kind of like our same the same proportion of our military spending to other parts of the world. Um and more of these sightings are reported in states in the west and northwest, with some of the states in the Northeast they're like lagging just behind those. So we're really looking at the edges the coasts. And a new report came out very recently. Uh. These two authors, Cheryl Costa and Linda Millark Costa released essentially a book that details more modern UFO sightings in the United States. These were aggregated from reports that were given to New Fork and too. You may have heard Matt mentioned this acronym before. What was it? Move on? Yeah, move on the mutual UFO network, which sounds kind of made up, but we promise you, ladies and gentlemen, it's a it's a genuine thing. Yes, it is. Like you can call these people and report something strange in the sky. That's why their organization exists, and it goes into a document and you can then search it later and you will see that it's there and other people can see it. Yes, So they collected this stuff just from two thousand one to two thousand fifteen, and they came out with the book named it's the UFO Sightings Desk Reference, not to be confused with the Physician's Desk Reference colin United States of America two thousand one. So they have over a hundred thousand sightings that they've collected, and we have, uh, we have the quote from them what they're going for. Since nineteen sixty nine, the government has claimed no interest in the subject, and the press and media either ignore or ridicule any mention of UFOs. Yet citizens, scientists, and non governmental organizations have continued to this day the research into this important subject. This book seeks to make the hardest data available accessible to the general public as well as other UFO researchers. Hey, it's clearly written to be like read rather than rather than performed. Those are those are long sentences. But the argument there is just that regardless of what a government is actually doing, they're pretty dismissive towards looking into this, right, and maybe the days of the men in black are gone and they're replaced by you know, online shows. I'm always gonna say Facebook news stories, but I think we're talking about the same thing. So the book has narrative sections, you know, like an anecdotal thing frequently asked questions. And then they have a bunch of data, right, charts, tables, and maps, and they found that this goes for all of the country. Are all of the states in the US, including the disc of Columbia, And this is uh, this is an interesting point. And if you want to check this out you can do so just like that. All you have to do is go to Amazon. Yeah, it's only forty U S dollars. I guess it must be a giant tome. I haven't physically seen the thing. Who would be great if it really? I mean it's a desk reference, right, so it must be a fairly large tome. Forty dollars. For some critics that that is fuel to a fire. And they might say, well, of course you think this is the most important book because you get forty dollars of pop every time someone agrees with you. You know, yeah, but I mean you got to think about it. Cheryl and Linda, they both have families. They gotta put food on their families, you know, apparently delicious filet mignons, Well they are. It was also important to point out that you know, these people would probably well, they're definitely not working like other scientists or statisticians with some kind of institutional support. That's a good point, and they gotta they gotta get there the most bang for their buck. Yeah, where do you get a grant for that kind of thing? Corelating UFO data? Um, I'm you know, I was so close to making a huge grant joke. But I think I'm gonna give him the day off. A right, I think she's been through enough. Uh. But what does this report contain? That's something that we're exploring here because we found some things that might interest you, and we'll tell you about them after a word from our sponsor. One thing that we can glean from this report, from this giant amount of information is that California they're getting their UFO on over there. They're really seeing stuff in the sky and free with me and in all parts, yes, that is correct. California has had nearly sixteen thousand reported sightings of UFO since two thousand one. That's that's also according to the San Francisco Gate. And as we were coming into the podcast to today, we're already hearing about more recent ones. There was a report like in March twenty one, just a few weeks ago, as we record this, and you have to wonder why why this seems concentrated in one area. I think it's because Tom DeLong lives in California. Yes, Tom DeLong, Blink two, could you tell tell everyone a little bit more about that? Well? I mean, Blake two was one of the quintessential pop punk bands of our generation and Tom left it all behind to become a pre eminent UFO researcher. And he actually won an award this year, uh for the work he's done. And he posted a very cryptic video online where he said that you know, he couldn't really talk about it, but that he was getting some really interesting inside access to some of the popular crash site, you know, documents of very over the years, and had some people that he was working with that were kind of helping him and you know, on a science c level, it sounded like but he couldn't really say much, but he said stay tuned that it was going to be an interesting year for his work into UFO research. Wow. Man, So, so here's my theory. In two thousand one, when Take Off Your Pants and Jacket was first released, it got so much radio play on the terrestrial Earth here uh, and all these radio waves went away. It was intercepted, you know, from the Earth went away from the Earth. It was intercepted by some craft that was checking out the Earth, just being like, hey, what's going on over here. They heard it, loved it, and they knew they had to make contact with this guy, so they did, and now he's in on the game and it's very catchy. I sort of like that episode of Pete and Pete with Johnny Unitis. You remember that. I don't I don't want to spoil it, but it's basically there. That's a very very heart heartfelt episode. But the idea is that uh, an alien sees a football game and becomes enamored with this player Johnny Unitis, but he sees it on the delay, so like he doesn't he sees it very recently, when it's actually a very very old game. Yeah. The example I always think of is a an old older I guess in eighties movie. I want to say, uh, maybe nineties. It's called The Explorers, Goodwin and the Explorers. You know, the aliens entire conversational tone is based off NICKD. Knight essentially all black and white television, and that's that's an interesting idea. How cool would that be? Tom DeLong, if you're listening, let us know, also as blink Wood, if you're getting back together. Well, I think they I think they replaced Tom. Oh, that's cold. So I think he's he's going full time with the with the UFO and he's moved beyond it. Huh. I never even knew what blink one a D two meant? What was the number? Do you know? No? Does anyone know? Probably? All right, we'll save that for another show. So why is California? Why is California such a hot hot spot for this such a hotbed? Uh? There there are a couple of reasons. I guess if we wanted to check out, Um, if we wanted to just look at the specs of the state, it's huge. Yeah, it's really big anyway you slice it over. Almost thirty four million people live in California alone. Let's see the average age there is forty nine for men, or just under fifty for men and just over fifty for women. Uh. In terms of it's physical size, like not just population, it's gigantic. You could cut it into two states. Several people have argued that should be the case, you know, and Northern California is very different from southern California, and it's also right there on the coast. Much of its border is the Pacific Ocean, and if anything happens far out on the sea, or at least close enough to where you can visibly make something out in an altitude, you know, any kind of lights out there are gonna do weird things with the way the atmosphere changes light as it gets to your eye. I mean not to mention like if you have like a clover Field situation where you know, the the alien drops out of the sky and some sort of craft that can then you know, be submerged submergeable, that'd be a thing that would be a good way to to pop into the scene, you know, without making a big, a big to do you know, go do it way out and see or if you're like a Godzilla, you know, you come up from underneath. It's very no, it's very true. And unidentified submergent objects are a thing. We've talked about that before, and it does make logical sense that if you're some kind of aircraft that could that can go underwater like that and travel there and also travel in air, which seems like it might be hard, but hey, if you can get to Earth, you can probably do it, and or uh well, or build something that can do it. Because of a submersible aircraft is not an impossible idea. It sounds like it would be real pain to engineer it. I do want to point out another thing, a fun fact. How much of a sitcom set up is this? Within California, there's a disproportionate amount of sightings from one place by far. Really, yes, throughout the whole state. There's one city that has like the majority of these reports. What is it? Do you care to guess? Kind of it's easy, it's easy. It's easy to guess, like Hollywood. Yeah, it's Los Angeles, Okay, But so Los Angeles County outranks any other place in California and on its own more than forty states, with three thousand, two hundred sidings reported. L A is crazy. Also, they're just hopeful, you know, like maybe maybe right hope springs eternal. But there's another thing here that could also lend to this propensity of reports, because we're not saying people are making it up. We're saying that people are just reporting more stuff. California also has a huge number of military bases. That's right. There are more than fifty known military bases inside the state of California, not to account for god knows how many secret ones there might be, you know, for national security. And we also have to remember the California is immediately adjacent to Nevada and Arizona, which have plenty of military facilities themselves, in addition to test sites like the Nevada National Security Site um or what also SAD a test site, and that spans almost sixty square miles and is roughly sixty five miles northwest of Las Vegas. It was established in nineteen fifty one to test nuclear devices and one of the most recent tests occurred on December seventh, which was an underground explosion meant to learn about the properties of plutonium. And that just means that there's a you know, a huge swath of land out there where you could ostensibly test whatever you wanted, although it's pretty much tainted at this point with dation, right, and there are so many other things that are in that vicinity or that region, right, we can't forget that the federal government owns vast swaths of lands in states. A budding California, and within California itself, out in those deserts where there's nobody to see what's going on, where the world either ended earlier God got into abstract art. Yeah, that's right. If a cactus falls in the desert, can anybody hear you scream? We mix my metaphorn. Never. I think it worked, and we will answer that question definitively after a word from our sponsor, and we're back to to theush. The answer is maybe maybe, maybe we're back just to the know. Maybe they like and hear its scream. Oh no, no, it can hear you scream? Wo I was combining. If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound within space? No one can hear you scream? What's that? Other one? If a tree falls in the forest and it hits a mime, does anyone care? People don't like mimes as a rule. I kind of you out there. I like it. I like I like the whole things still. I like the part where they're in the box. Yeah, a knife in the hand is worth two in the drawer. Speaking of fantastic segues, we should also look at the report itself, because it aggregated a lot of data, but it aggregated it from places that you know clearly have some sort of agenda. Yeah. I mean, even if it's just gathering as much information as possible, perhaps there's not the level of scrutiny placed on the reports that you might expect. You know, you just you take the information in, you write it down objectively, whatever you're old, and you put it away in a document. I mean, it's certainly not like peer reviewed. Well it's peer reviewed, and there's not someone you know on the phone saying well, okay, so what you saw, you know, going over what the person saw, or like really going over what flights were in the vicinity or that kind of Ye, it's analyzed later, it's just reported. So we have some examples of like the format this takes correct. Yes, this is going to come directly from the National UFO Reporting Center. These are samples Newport, New Fork. These are sightings that occurred in California from March of this year, so just you know, several days ago, uh plus thirty and let's let's go into this. These are reported as city shape, duration and then a quick short summary physical shape of the object, whatever the thing is that you saw. So the first one comes from Mira mar California. It was in some kind of formation and it lasted five minutes and what was seen was rapid blinking light which appeared to grow in size. First just one light was visible, and then this formation itself became visible. And this was an anonymous report. That is one of those things that you know, you're driving, you're hanging out on the porch, you see it and you go, huh, that's interesting. I wonder with that, WHOA why are all those lights there? Can I can totally understand that kind of thing I would make. I would have made that one. Here's a few more. We've got one and then nives um these shape is unknown, which what does that mean? What does that mean? It's just like a new shape, like I'm not even sure. Maybe perhaps a change shape, who knows. Um. And the duration was two minutes and the summary was fast moving silent objects in formation. UM. And that was an anonymous report. Then we have one in Palm Springs. Uh. This is good, a fancy ufo. Uh. The shape was a form san, so I'm assuming that means it was a group some kind of formation, right, um. And a thirty second sighting. And then in double parentheses and all caps with two question marks. It says hoax. Yeah, I think this is a note from whoever recorded it. And then the word Mars written in the sky by lights and that is also an anonymous report. Yeah, that's weird. I don't know. Some aliens come down and light tagging the clouds. It's a little on the nose. So so you can see range there already between what you're going to receive with these kinds of sightings. Would you say the range is like from absurd to ridiculous. No, No, it's absurd to puzzling. I think, right, um, something you just don't understand, Like there's one in San Diego. I could just kill a man. So yeah, there's one in San Diego that was formed in a circle, lasted two minutes and we're just looking at some orange spears that disappear and reappear in the sky somewhere. Yes, Typically the more objective or reliable reports regarding anomalous material in the sky will not make a guest toward motive or agency like this one in Modesto, California. It was a circle and for duration of six minutes, people witnessed in the sky three red lights. They thought, oh, probably the military doing exercises. But they lined up and then one flew off the top. The one on top flew heca fast. Yeah, I guess they say Hella in California, right. But what we see here, what we see here is that as as we said, there is a there is a range. And it leaves us with a lot of questions, why is this an American phenomena? Predominantly, why is it localized to certain states or regions, And perhaps most importantly, what what military craft? At least some of this was gonna be mistaken top secret military craft. We know that it happened with stealth fighters in the past. We know that it happened with jets as well as with surveillance things at a high altitude aircraft that were being tested right like right now, uh, the P seven ninety one. A lot of people who lament the long gone days of airships and Zeppelin's, well they're back. The US has several creepy ones that are at a very very high altitude watching for some reason. You know, who knows what they're watching. Maybe they're watching us. I think Matt made a good point earlier. When we get into this next point, which is, uh, the rise of drone technology. So like, you know, there's all these consumer or prosumer drones, camera drones, different things like that. They can fly pretty high and pretty far, and this idea of reflections over the ocean, or you know, some of them have lights mounted on them. You know, if you if you saw the Super Bowl halftime show, for example, there was a whole section in it where it was just this massive array of drones with like led lights on them that can be controlled. And you know California is a ground zero for that kind of tech party. Well, I'm just saying, like, if something cool like that comes out, you know, they're innovating, they're innovating it. So you know, I wouldn't be surprised if that could account for some of these reports, if there has been such a massive uptick. I really like this idea of of drone technology having something to do with that. Even on the mid level professional or amateur drone operator, you can make some weird things happen in the sky for people who don't know what they're looking at. It's pretty affordable as well. Yeah, right now, if you have a spare a thousand bucks, somebody does uh, we we we don't. But you can get your hands on a drone with an operating distance of seven thousand meters. Yeah, Like you can buy those at Barnes and Noble, like I mean they literally have them at CVS. Yeah, and you just hop on Amazon and it will show up at your door even And in theory, with an operating distance of that like that far seven thousand meters in theory means you can reach a max altitude of twenty three thousand feet above the sea level. And you know, if you're in California and you're pretty close to the sea level in certain areas over there by the coast um or in other areas of California, that's really high because you have to think that the cruising altitude for a commercial airliner is going to be around thirty six thousand feet. So how many drones are out there? There are lots and lots of drones. Just to look back at the holiday season of almost a million consumer drones were sold inside the US And that's just the holiday season for one year. That's just one year, and you know it's a year and a half ago. But then in December of the f a A started requiring all new owners of drones that are between a certain weight, so like point five five pounds to fifty five pounds. There were requiring these owners to register their drones just so that they would know, Hey, here's the general vicinity where these are gonna be located and where they might be flying. However, in early February of last year, only three five thousand of these drones had been registered, and that's not including all the other drones that have been purchased. Are you saying there are rogue drones out there, Matt, unregistered drones. I'm saying we are littered with rogue drone dirty drones, Like do they shave the whatever the equivalent of the then is off of them? Possibly? Dude, I want to burner drone. Well, do you think it's gonna change where getting a drone is going to become more prohibitive, like you after like having to register like immediately? Certain Yeah, I think certainly that what they're sorting out now would be a federal level law. Uh. Some ladies and gentlemen in the audience, please let us know what your experiences with having a drone. But I think that's a very good argument for the rise of sightings. Let's remember, not only are parts of California very very crowded, but they are, as Neal said, full of very tech savvy people, people that the markets often call early adopters, you know. And and something that's just close to this but not quite is the idea of sending things up into lower earth orbit like balloons. You've seen these viral videos all over YouTube now where you can make a balloon that will go phine uff, you attach a go pro or some other equivalent camera to it, and you just send something up and then post it to YouTube. And these things go really high. A lot of times there's a blinking light involved, and you know, just these little innovative things that are happening. Maybe that's another part of it too, because one thing we haven't mentioned yet is whether the US is rate of internet connectivity explains the number of sightings that people report. I understand that reasoning, but here's why I'm not persuaded that that could be the whole explanation, because other countries have way better internet connections in terms of speed, in terms of consistency, in terms of uh, literally any metric you can imagine. You're talking about South Korea absolutely. I'm talking about South Korea. It's so good that internet is so good. That's amazing, you know. But that's that's a good point and a good counterpoint. So we don't know how much role has to play drones. Most definitely my money is on testing of unacknowledged military vehicles or misidentified vehicles. Ben, I think you might be right in a way. The Internet connect connectivity is being channeled through our smartphones that we all carry around now, so we can all pick up our camera at almost any time, not all of us, of course, but many of us and just film if we think we see a UFO, right, so the sighting itself gets documented faster and more reliably. But at the same time, to me, that has the potential to diminish the um impact of a mirror sighting and report when we are all most of us equipped with the stuff to capture the damn thing. You know, why don't we have more convincing UFO videos? If it's about the rise of technology and the quickness of being able to report something, why aren't we seeing more Twitter posts, Instagram pictures of legit sightings. And here's another thing, why aren't they being identified more concisely or definitively. Uh, if if this, all of this technology exists. If not, and it is true that now, more than any other point in human history, there will be multiple people able to document the same thing, right, all three of us. If we're out on an adventure somewhere and we see something really cool, all three of us are going to secure some sort of evidence of it. Right. And with those three different angles than the chances of us being able to identify something dramatically increase. So there's another question here, which is why are these things not being identified more efficiently? Why are they still unknown? But there's just more of them. That's why, again, my money goes on unacknowledged private sector testing of things or military applications. You beat me to it, then that seems completely believable, because, as we know, usually the military do a pretty good job of keeping their new technology under wraps and from the public until they're done with it. People didn't even know that stealth helicopters existed. Yeah, right, and now now the secrets out and that's still kind of a oxy more onto me a stealth helicopter. It's like the quiet yell Wilhelm screen, you know, what I am seeing a viable business plan here, guys. A service. Maybe we can call it UFO. Maybe that's what it's called. And it's an app on your phone and all you have to do is take a video or whatever however you get it, uh, send it through the service. And there's human beings on the other side who collate data from the f f A f A A from other sources. About like, are there any kind of balloon festivals going on right now? Is there a wedding where they were Chinese lanterns going up? A balloon festival? That sounds charming. There might be a balloon I don't know if there's such things. Sounds like a lot of fun. We could just start a balloon festival. I was thinking hot air balloons. Sure, sure, all balloons. But you you just sent in you say, hey, was this UFO, and then somebody can go, h it was this or yes it was so two things. First off, I think that's a great idea. I feel like some in this process should be swiping left or right. It's very big on phones now, so just maybe they swipe to determine the vassity. Secondly, um, I don't know about I don't know about you know, but from Matt's pitch, I think what I like the most is the balloon festival. Man, do you want to do a balloon fest We'll do the app as well, but I think we should premier it at this balloon festival. Alright, what about a balloon festival app where you can find your nearest balloon festival? Heaven? I would pay for that. I wouldn't pay much, but I pay. See that we have to start another company that hosts balloon festivals. Okay, well, now that we've talked about it on air, everyone just keep this a secret until we can roll it out, because you're the best part of this show and we depend on you. Uh, speaking of you, I guess it's time for shut at Corner. Our first out out today comes from lower Gar the Terrible I added second at Vaults of x Stoff, which still sounds pretty pretty terrible. Um by terrible, I mean metal metal, like like uh intimidating. And some of you may actually remember Lord Gar at Vaults of x thof x Off Vaults of x Off. He has written to us before. Lord Gar If that's his real name, I hope so, but I I sort of doubt it. Um. Just finished our documentary about the Georgia Guystones on Amazon, hooray, and he made a great point. Um. He says, quote, one thing about the eugenics angle of the Guystones is, uh, if it was for white supremacy, why also have a language like sanscript? That is a very um. I I if that is there's there's no indication of race. It seems to be it's more about intellect. Yeah, there is no clear indication. But one thing I think is a great point brought up by your question, Lord Gar is that the many, many racially oriented supremacy movements idolize or fetish size, or imagine some relationship with an ancient, pre existing culture. So a lot of people that would be identified as white supremacists today we're traveling, as you know, European colonizers or something, and they see the ruins of this huge African empire and then instead of saying, well, the people who lived here previously must have done this, they would be like, ah, the white city in Africa. So there's this confirmation bias that exists. Um. But I still think that is an excellent question if they are um supremacist of any sort then why would they also have Yeah, yeah, that's true. That doesn't seem like a very supremacist oriented thing. But that's a great question. And thanks for thanks for watching the documentary. If anyone else out there has not seen it, it is available for free on Amazon Video. If you don't have Prime, I think you get bugged by a couple of ads. But if you do, then it is ad free all the live long day. Check it out and let us know what you think. And for all of you out there in Canada or Australia, especially especially folks in Australia and Bananada, which is a country I just made up a Bananada. Well, all of y'all, um, you can't watch it right now currently because of the restrictions on Amazon. However, we are finding way, a way, a solution to make this work for Illumination Global Unlimited. They've you know, they have their scruples. We're gonna We're gonna make it work for them, so look for it soon. Our next shout out comes from Chad Sandborn, another familiar name at Chad Sandborn, He writes, did you see this red mercury scare fascinating? Since it doesn't exist? And you guys discussed it last month. I did not see this. He sent us an a j C article that's our hometown newspaper. It is I believe Chad is in atlantin y a t alien alien. I don't know how to say that properly, but this is I'm just gonna read a quick excerpt from this says officials are investigating in downtown Atlanta after reports that a man claiming to have red mercury from Africa walked into the region to location of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission. Interesting, right, Um, it's says they're still gathering information on the call. And here's another quote. Red mercury is reportedly a substance used to create nuclear bombs, but its existence has not been documented. Nope, it hasn't. Wasn't that some of that Nazi tech in the episode? Hey, but the police in Atlanta took it seriously. Apparently parts of peach Free Street, Peach Free Center Avenue in Courtland Street, down by g s U on the mater U they were closed off and officers were redirecting traffic. A hasmat team, a bomb squad, and fire trucks were seen near the in the investigation dude, do you think that's what blew up the bridge? Was it a red mercury experiment? Hold on, this is from marcht we haven't have we talked about at the show. Okay, so, uh several several days ago. It's it's April five as we record this, right, just a few days before it comes out. Time travels weird, I know, welcome to the show. Uh a few a mere a few days ago. Uh, part of a very important interstate here in Atlanta. It's an artery. Yeah, it's an artery to the beating heart of the city. And it caught a fire and collapsed. And you may be saying, Matt, no, old b in why would you have bridges of oily rags and would But this was not a would bridge. This is concrete and steel, baby, and didn't. However, happened to have an enormous stockpile of heavily flammable materials stored underneath it. Yeah, which which quantifier the official narrative? Now? Um, well, first, there were no injuries, not even fatalities. There were no injuries. And this was at the you know, the hinterlands chronologically speaking of Russia. So strange because it was rush hour. Right, it was like at the end of rush hour. I drove by it at six. He took that photo and posted onto the Facebook where you can follow us. We are conspiracy stuff. Correct, watch it now before it gets taken down. Wait, why did you say it like you're going to take it down. I don't know. You might only be able to see it for the next few minutes. Something from like snapchat kind of thing. Yeah, they sound like and in the characters. Yeah, I'm going to take Suvencheon down. So we'd like to hear your take on what happened, just to let you know the current stance of the officials. Oh, I get it because of Red Mercury. It was it was it was a Nazi. Yeah, that's what I was going for sure. Yeah, if you heard that part that, I hope we cut out German listeners. We appreciate your time immensely. Oh, thank you. So with just this so that this bridge story real quick. Currently, the people who were arrested were three three um. They were described as homeless people in the news, and apparently they had met previously. I love the way this was depicted. Uh, they met under the bridge and began having a discussion about smoking crack, which makes it sound like there was a meeting dude planning on smoking. It makes it sound like somebody said, you know, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for meeting me here tonight. I'd like to thank snake bite for bringing the beans. There's no one named snake bite, but those those people were apprehended and trade and for the official purposes, thought to be the originators of this fire. But again no one was hurt. Time moves on traffic will be terrible. But for some reason, you know, for years and years they have been stories very flammable things under the bridge, PVC material and that was the Georgia Department of Transportation that put it under there, so it was kind of their fault. Like oops, it is definitely in code violation, right, sure, so we have one more email here. Uh. Nathaniel P. Writes in and says, what up, guys, this nudy. I just came across the topic that always bothered me. Do you remember the Michael Hastings car accident a few years back. The recent wiki leaks vault to seven release allegedly as info regarding CIA tech capabilities. Among those listed are weaponized malware and remote hacking, ironic because that is exactly how conspiracy realists believe he died. Was he planning on exposing the CIA like he did General Petraeus? Was he targeted by the CIA? I remember reading he died shortly after telling his lawyer he was being investigated by the FBI. This also brings to mind the Air and Swarts death, which is really similar. Both died shortly after being investigated by the FBI in twenty and then goes on to say that he enjoyed the Guide Stones documentary and he wonders if we are planning on making more documentary style films in the future. Do you remember the Michael Hastening stuff. It brings a very very tiny bell. Yeah, I very much remember that. And the whole discussion at the time was, hey, can cars be hacked? Can these new smart cars that are connected the Internet can hacked? And the answer came one equivalent on equivocally, yes, it can happen. Uh. It was also noted that in most situations you would have to physically get into the vehicle and attach yourself to one of the onboard computers to to make it function, like put a back door in. Essentially in the main onboard computer. Yeah, but it was shown that if you did, if you did successfully get in there, you could stop the brakes, you could make the cars engine turn over and go. You could like mess with all the lights and they're conditioning. Pretty much anything you wanted to do, you could do to a car. And one of those things is make it go really fast into a tree. Right. So the Hastings information, when Hastings and Swords passed away, the current information said that you can do this, but it has to be plugged in physically to the car's computer. But now it seems that the CIA has the technology that was always speculated that they have. And what's more, that this can be remotely accessed with no physical contact with the car. That is so scary. So the car itself becomes the weapon. And you're right, new T, that's what that. The the hacks indicate that they are definitely, if not already capable of doing so working on that and it's a super valuable you know, it's a super valuable tool to have for that line of work. I don't want to be able to remotely control other people's cars that would go power man. I have very definite opinions about how people should behave in traffic. Oh you could. You could be a car hacker for good. Everybody, every I guarantee you everybody who is doing that thinks they are also a car hacker for good. Oh yeah, you're well maybe yeah. Good is just like uh good depends on where you stand and when you meet it. You're more of a brown hat hacker, yeah yeah, or or a red hat just for the excitement. I like that. And just make everybody use their blinkers all the time. That's all I ask. Please. That's going into something that's a different show, but we we appreciate it. Thank you for not letting Michael Hastings be forgotten, Newty, and thank you for your interests. We we do have some on the way. Um, we can't give you definites right now, but stay tuned and act surprised. This concludes our Like we said right to us, you are the best part of the show and we need you to make it as good as it can be so you can find it. And that's the end of this classic episode. If you have any thoughts or questions about this episode, you can get into contact with us in a number of different ways. One of the best is to give us a call. Our number is one eight three three st d w y t K. 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And we have returned with a classic episode as we take a little bit of time off this week, but we didn't want to leave you without a dope beat a step to UFO fans, this one's for you. Oh yeah, where have you seen UFOs? Where have most people seen the most UFOs? That's literally what we're going to talk about today, and that is such an exciting concept. Is it just Skinwalker Ranch? Is it just Area fifty one? Where else? From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Hello, my name is Matt Flashing lights Frederick, and this is eight million Brown. That's bad, but I'm good now, I'm gonna get it. I'm just I'm gonna I'm I'm I've made my bed now I'm gonna lie in it. And then Max Powers astronaut with a secret You are you that makes this stuff they don't want you to know? And do that part from the opening again where you say the thing about the thing, from from something to something, from UFOs to ghosts and government cover ups. You could turn back now or learned the stuff they don't want you to know which is our show that. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to be redundant. I just thought, you know, we haven't talked about aliens at a hot minute. We have not. That is true. That is true, And long time listeners from the video series know that we slightly change the language of the opener over time because we used to have um psychics and maybe UFOs UM. So we haven't had any kind of coverage about UFOs in a long time, and we wanted to come back and explore that a little bit today before we hop on our own very well identified flying object and head out to meet many of you in New York. I'm really looking forward to it. I know at least one of you is going to be there. Yeah, I think so. We're all on the same flight. So if one of us doesn't make it, you guys, you guys, I know you guys gonna be like the beginning of every Marine Corps movie. Look to your left, look to your right. One of you will make it. Oh my gosh, it's so, what is the UFO. Let's just start there. What is this thing? Well, this is a bit of a disclaimer that we have to make at the top of these. The UFO does not mean aliens full stop. It could perhaps who knows, extra tresh reels. It just means it's unidentified, and that means it could be anything. It's true. It could a helicopter. It could be a particularly determined swan. Yeah, that's just having light reflected off of it in a strange way. It could be somebody base jumping, good old swamp gas. Who could be swamp gas. One thing's for sure, A will of the wisp, a will of the wisp? Yes, are you going to be a will of the wisp? Or won't of the wisp? That's good man, it's good of your idea, but that I can see that as like a like one of the posters with the kittens hanging from the tree. You know, yeah, I think you have a future and inspirational memorabilia ahead of you. Thank you, thank you. Well. That's good because if my job were to identify UFOs, I, like most other people who would tipped this endeavor, would be at a loss. There's one thing that a lot of people don't realize about UFO sightings. We know that they happen every year around the globe. But I did not know this if you guys knew this already. Not only are UFO sightings at an all time high, uh, but thereby far an American thing. They're super They're super common in the US and Canada, and more so in Canada. That's right. The findings are based on data that was crunched by Sam Montfort, a doctoral student in Human Factors and Applied Cognition. Was that is that was that a fun acronym not really doesn't really spell anything, no canny can't even can't even speak it. And that was at George Mason University um SO. Monfort wrote up his findings in a blog update that used information from the National UFO Reporting Center, which does have a fun acronym. It's New Fork UM and I feel like that's like a town in Rhode Island, New Fork, Rhode Island. Doesn't it sound like it would be better for right? Exactly exactly UM and New Fork is an organization and that documents UFO sightings. And now, according to this report, these UFAs, the UFOs have been increasingly popping up, with one hundred and four thousand, nine hundred forty seven reported sightings just over the past one hundred plus years. And there's an important thing here too, because what does reported mean after a certain amount of time. It means that it made it into print. You know, like a hundred years ago. People wouldn't count a reported sighting as somebody just talking about it. It will have to be in some sort of official government document, etcetera. So there are probably more than these, and then there's probably a lot that are written down in people's diaries and so on. And of course for the UFO enthusiasts, we know that reported sightings date back into antiquity of just weird stuff in the sky. This is focusing on a very specific period, so they're not saying that those other you know, ancient glimpses has never occurred. What about police reports? Do you think UFO reports ever end up in that form? And are those available to the public by by um, you know, there are stars requests, There are some police reports. Usually it's a person reporting to the police. Then the police will like drop something down. Uh. And then especially if an individual sees a UFO and reports to the police and they also reported to Newfon or move On or you know, whatever else whoever else they reported to, that will be noted a lot of times in the documents there. Okay, so I wonder if anybody has ever tried to use a UFOs citing to get out of some kind of altercation with the police. So as excuse me, uh Sarah, we've had reports of a crack pipe being detected this vicinity as somebody ever said they visited me and they dropped this from the I'm sure someone has those crack smoking et s man, right right. I still think it's the CIA, though more so the extra terrestrials. The first recorded incident in in this report that momfort does apparently occurred in Portland all the way back in nineteen oh five, and viewers reported seeing this buzzing sphere shaped UFO that descended from the sky. But sightings have spiked dramatically over the past three decades, with the reported number jumping from like five thousand and nineteen eighty to forty five thousand and two. What's going on in this report reinforces this idea that UFO sightings are largely a United States thing. The US collectively reports around sightings per ten million people, which is three hundred times more than the global median. That's pretty huge. Feels kind of like our same the same proportion of our military spending to other parts of the world. Um and more of these sightings are reported in states in the west and northwest, with some of the states in the Northeast they're like lagging just behind those. So we're really looking at the edges the coasts. And a new report came out very recently. Uh. These two authors, Cheryl Costa and Linda Millark Costa released essentially a book that details more modern UFO sightings in the United States. These were aggregated from reports that were given to New Fork and too. You may have heard Matt mentioned this acronym before. What was it? Move on? Yeah, move on the mutual UFO network, which sounds kind of made up, but we promise you, ladies and gentlemen, it's a it's a genuine thing. Yes, it is. Like you can call these people and report something strange in the sky. That's why their organization exists, and it goes into a document and you can then search it later and you will see that it's there and other people can see it. Yes, So they collected this stuff just from two thousand one to two thousand fifteen, and they came out with the book named it's the UFO Sightings Desk Reference, not to be confused with the Physician's Desk Reference colin United States of America two thousand one. So they have over a hundred thousand sightings that they've collected, and we have, uh, we have the quote from them what they're going for. Since nineteen sixty nine, the government has claimed no interest in the subject, and the press and media either ignore or ridicule any mention of UFOs. Yet citizens, scientists, and non governmental organizations have continued to this day the research into this important subject. This book seeks to make the hardest data available accessible to the general public as well as other UFO researchers. Hey, it's clearly written to be like read rather than rather than performed. Those are those are long sentences. But the argument there is just that regardless of what a government is actually doing, they're pretty dismissive towards looking into this, right, and maybe the days of the men in black are gone and they're replaced by you know, online shows. I'm always gonna say Facebook news stories, but I think we're talking about the same thing. So the book has narrative sections, you know, like an anecdotal thing frequently asked questions. And then they have a bunch of data, right, charts, tables, and maps, and they found that this goes for all of the country. Are all of the states in the US, including the disc of Columbia, And this is uh, this is an interesting point. And if you want to check this out you can do so just like that. All you have to do is go to Amazon. Yeah, it's only forty U S dollars. I guess it must be a giant tome. I haven't physically seen the thing. Who would be great if it really? I mean it's a desk reference, right, so it must be a fairly large tome. Forty dollars. For some critics that that is fuel to a fire. And they might say, well, of course you think this is the most important book because you get forty dollars of pop every time someone agrees with you. You know, yeah, but I mean you got to think about it. Cheryl and Linda, they both have families. They gotta put food on their families, you know, apparently delicious filet mignons, Well they are. It was also important to point out that you know, these people would probably well, they're definitely not working like other scientists or statisticians with some kind of institutional support. That's a good point, and they gotta they gotta get there the most bang for their buck. Yeah, where do you get a grant for that kind of thing? Corelating UFO data? Um, I'm you know, I was so close to making a huge grant joke. But I think I'm gonna give him the day off. A right, I think she's been through enough. Uh. But what does this report contain? That's something that we're exploring here because we found some things that might interest you, and we'll tell you about them after a word from our sponsor. One thing that we can glean from this report, from this giant amount of information is that California they're getting their UFO on over there. They're really seeing stuff in the sky and free with me and in all parts, yes, that is correct. California has had nearly sixteen thousand reported sightings of UFO since two thousand one. That's that's also according to the San Francisco Gate. And as we were coming into the podcast to today, we're already hearing about more recent ones. There was a report like in March twenty one, just a few weeks ago, as we record this, and you have to wonder why why this seems concentrated in one area. I think it's because Tom DeLong lives in California. Yes, Tom DeLong, Blink two, could you tell tell everyone a little bit more about that? Well? I mean, Blake two was one of the quintessential pop punk bands of our generation and Tom left it all behind to become a pre eminent UFO researcher. And he actually won an award this year, uh for the work he's done. And he posted a very cryptic video online where he said that you know, he couldn't really talk about it, but that he was getting some really interesting inside access to some of the popular crash site, you know, documents of very over the years, and had some people that he was working with that were kind of helping him and you know, on a science c level, it sounded like but he couldn't really say much, but he said stay tuned that it was going to be an interesting year for his work into UFO research. Wow. Man, So, so here's my theory. In two thousand one, when Take Off Your Pants and Jacket was first released, it got so much radio play on the terrestrial Earth here uh, and all these radio waves went away. It was intercepted, you know, from the Earth went away from the Earth. It was intercepted by some craft that was checking out the Earth, just being like, hey, what's going on over here. They heard it, loved it, and they knew they had to make contact with this guy, so they did, and now he's in on the game and it's very catchy. I sort of like that episode of Pete and Pete with Johnny Unitis. You remember that. I don't I don't want to spoil it, but it's basically there. That's a very very heart heartfelt episode. But the idea is that uh, an alien sees a football game and becomes enamored with this player Johnny Unitis, but he sees it on the delay, so like he doesn't he sees it very recently, when it's actually a very very old game. Yeah. The example I always think of is a an old older I guess in eighties movie. I want to say, uh, maybe nineties. It's called The Explorers, Goodwin and the Explorers. You know, the aliens entire conversational tone is based off NICKD. Knight essentially all black and white television, and that's that's an interesting idea. How cool would that be? Tom DeLong, if you're listening, let us know, also as blink Wood, if you're getting back together. Well, I think they I think they replaced Tom. Oh, that's cold. So I think he's he's going full time with the with the UFO and he's moved beyond it. Huh. I never even knew what blink one a D two meant? What was the number? Do you know? No? Does anyone know? Probably? All right, we'll save that for another show. So why is California? Why is California such a hot hot spot for this such a hotbed? Uh? There there are a couple of reasons. I guess if we wanted to check out, Um, if we wanted to just look at the specs of the state, it's huge. Yeah, it's really big anyway you slice it over. Almost thirty four million people live in California alone. Let's see the average age there is forty nine for men, or just under fifty for men and just over fifty for women. Uh. In terms of it's physical size, like not just population, it's gigantic. You could cut it into two states. Several people have argued that should be the case, you know, and Northern California is very different from southern California, and it's also right there on the coast. Much of its border is the Pacific Ocean, and if anything happens far out on the sea, or at least close enough to where you can visibly make something out in an altitude, you know, any kind of lights out there are gonna do weird things with the way the atmosphere changes light as it gets to your eye. I mean not to mention like if you have like a clover Field situation where you know, the the alien drops out of the sky and some sort of craft that can then you know, be submerged submergeable, that'd be a thing that would be a good way to to pop into the scene, you know, without making a big, a big to do you know, go do it way out and see or if you're like a Godzilla, you know, you come up from underneath. It's very no, it's very true. And unidentified submergent objects are a thing. We've talked about that before, and it does make logical sense that if you're some kind of aircraft that could that can go underwater like that and travel there and also travel in air, which seems like it might be hard, but hey, if you can get to Earth, you can probably do it, and or uh well, or build something that can do it. Because of a submersible aircraft is not an impossible idea. It sounds like it would be real pain to engineer it. I do want to point out another thing, a fun fact. How much of a sitcom set up is this? Within California, there's a disproportionate amount of sightings from one place by far. Really, yes, throughout the whole state. There's one city that has like the majority of these reports. What is it? Do you care to guess? Kind of it's easy, it's easy. It's easy to guess, like Hollywood. Yeah, it's Los Angeles, Okay, But so Los Angeles County outranks any other place in California and on its own more than forty states, with three thousand, two hundred sidings reported. L A is crazy. Also, they're just hopeful, you know, like maybe maybe right hope springs eternal. But there's another thing here that could also lend to this propensity of reports, because we're not saying people are making it up. We're saying that people are just reporting more stuff. California also has a huge number of military bases. That's right. There are more than fifty known military bases inside the state of California, not to account for god knows how many secret ones there might be, you know, for national security. And we also have to remember the California is immediately adjacent to Nevada and Arizona, which have plenty of military facilities themselves, in addition to test sites like the Nevada National Security Site um or what also SAD a test site, and that spans almost sixty square miles and is roughly sixty five miles northwest of Las Vegas. It was established in nineteen fifty one to test nuclear devices and one of the most recent tests occurred on December seventh, which was an underground explosion meant to learn about the properties of plutonium. And that just means that there's a you know, a huge swath of land out there where you could ostensibly test whatever you wanted, although it's pretty much tainted at this point with dation, right, and there are so many other things that are in that vicinity or that region, right, we can't forget that the federal government owns vast swaths of lands in states. A budding California, and within California itself, out in those deserts where there's nobody to see what's going on, where the world either ended earlier God got into abstract art. Yeah, that's right. If a cactus falls in the desert, can anybody hear you scream? We mix my metaphorn. Never. I think it worked, and we will answer that question definitively after a word from our sponsor, and we're back to to theush. The answer is maybe maybe, maybe we're back just to the know. Maybe they like and hear its scream. Oh no, no, it can hear you scream? Wo I was combining. If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound within space? No one can hear you scream? What's that? Other one? If a tree falls in the forest and it hits a mime, does anyone care? People don't like mimes as a rule. I kind of you out there. I like it. I like I like the whole things still. I like the part where they're in the box. Yeah, a knife in the hand is worth two in the drawer. Speaking of fantastic segues, we should also look at the report itself, because it aggregated a lot of data, but it aggregated it from places that you know clearly have some sort of agenda. Yeah. I mean, even if it's just gathering as much information as possible, perhaps there's not the level of scrutiny placed on the reports that you might expect. You know, you just you take the information in, you write it down objectively, whatever you're old, and you put it away in a document. I mean, it's certainly not like peer reviewed. Well it's peer reviewed, and there's not someone you know on the phone saying well, okay, so what you saw, you know, going over what the person saw, or like really going over what flights were in the vicinity or that kind of Ye, it's analyzed later, it's just reported. So we have some examples of like the format this takes correct. Yes, this is going to come directly from the National UFO Reporting Center. These are samples Newport, New Fork. These are sightings that occurred in California from March of this year, so just you know, several days ago, uh plus thirty and let's let's go into this. These are reported as city shape, duration and then a quick short summary physical shape of the object, whatever the thing is that you saw. So the first one comes from Mira mar California. It was in some kind of formation and it lasted five minutes and what was seen was rapid blinking light which appeared to grow in size. First just one light was visible, and then this formation itself became visible. And this was an anonymous report. That is one of those things that you know, you're driving, you're hanging out on the porch, you see it and you go, huh, that's interesting. I wonder with that, WHOA why are all those lights there? Can I can totally understand that kind of thing I would make. I would have made that one. Here's a few more. We've got one and then nives um these shape is unknown, which what does that mean? What does that mean? It's just like a new shape, like I'm not even sure. Maybe perhaps a change shape, who knows. Um. And the duration was two minutes and the summary was fast moving silent objects in formation. UM. And that was an anonymous report. Then we have one in Palm Springs. Uh. This is good, a fancy ufo. Uh. The shape was a form san, so I'm assuming that means it was a group some kind of formation, right, um. And a thirty second sighting. And then in double parentheses and all caps with two question marks. It says hoax. Yeah, I think this is a note from whoever recorded it. And then the word Mars written in the sky by lights and that is also an anonymous report. Yeah, that's weird. I don't know. Some aliens come down and light tagging the clouds. It's a little on the nose. So so you can see range there already between what you're going to receive with these kinds of sightings. Would you say the range is like from absurd to ridiculous. No, No, it's absurd to puzzling. I think, right, um, something you just don't understand, Like there's one in San Diego. I could just kill a man. So yeah, there's one in San Diego that was formed in a circle, lasted two minutes and we're just looking at some orange spears that disappear and reappear in the sky somewhere. Yes, Typically the more objective or reliable reports regarding anomalous material in the sky will not make a guest toward motive or agency like this one in Modesto, California. It was a circle and for duration of six minutes, people witnessed in the sky three red lights. They thought, oh, probably the military doing exercises. But they lined up and then one flew off the top. The one on top flew heca fast. Yeah, I guess they say Hella in California, right. But what we see here, what we see here is that as as we said, there is a there is a range. And it leaves us with a lot of questions, why is this an American phenomena? Predominantly, why is it localized to certain states or regions, And perhaps most importantly, what what military craft? At least some of this was gonna be mistaken top secret military craft. We know that it happened with stealth fighters in the past. We know that it happened with jets as well as with surveillance things at a high altitude aircraft that were being tested right like right now, uh, the P seven ninety one. A lot of people who lament the long gone days of airships and Zeppelin's, well they're back. The US has several creepy ones that are at a very very high altitude watching for some reason. You know, who knows what they're watching. Maybe they're watching us. I think Matt made a good point earlier. When we get into this next point, which is, uh, the rise of drone technology. So like, you know, there's all these consumer or prosumer drones, camera drones, different things like that. They can fly pretty high and pretty far, and this idea of reflections over the ocean, or you know, some of them have lights mounted on them. You know, if you if you saw the Super Bowl halftime show, for example, there was a whole section in it where it was just this massive array of drones with like led lights on them that can be controlled. And you know California is a ground zero for that kind of tech party. Well, I'm just saying, like, if something cool like that comes out, you know, they're innovating, they're innovating it. So you know, I wouldn't be surprised if that could account for some of these reports, if there has been such a massive uptick. I really like this idea of of drone technology having something to do with that. Even on the mid level professional or amateur drone operator, you can make some weird things happen in the sky for people who don't know what they're looking at. It's pretty affordable as well. Yeah, right now, if you have a spare a thousand bucks, somebody does uh, we we we don't. But you can get your hands on a drone with an operating distance of seven thousand meters. Yeah, Like you can buy those at Barnes and Noble, like I mean they literally have them at CVS. Yeah, and you just hop on Amazon and it will show up at your door even And in theory, with an operating distance of that like that far seven thousand meters in theory means you can reach a max altitude of twenty three thousand feet above the sea level. And you know, if you're in California and you're pretty close to the sea level in certain areas over there by the coast um or in other areas of California, that's really high because you have to think that the cruising altitude for a commercial airliner is going to be around thirty six thousand feet. So how many drones are out there? There are lots and lots of drones. Just to look back at the holiday season of almost a million consumer drones were sold inside the US And that's just the holiday season for one year. That's just one year, and you know it's a year and a half ago. But then in December of the f a A started requiring all new owners of drones that are between a certain weight, so like point five five pounds to fifty five pounds. There were requiring these owners to register their drones just so that they would know, Hey, here's the general vicinity where these are gonna be located and where they might be flying. However, in early February of last year, only three five thousand of these drones had been registered, and that's not including all the other drones that have been purchased. Are you saying there are rogue drones out there, Matt, unregistered drones. I'm saying we are littered with rogue drone dirty drones, Like do they shave the whatever the equivalent of the then is off of them? Possibly? Dude, I want to burner drone. Well, do you think it's gonna change where getting a drone is going to become more prohibitive, like you after like having to register like immediately? Certain Yeah, I think certainly that what they're sorting out now would be a federal level law. Uh. Some ladies and gentlemen in the audience, please let us know what your experiences with having a drone. But I think that's a very good argument for the rise of sightings. Let's remember, not only are parts of California very very crowded, but they are, as Neal said, full of very tech savvy people, people that the markets often call early adopters, you know. And and something that's just close to this but not quite is the idea of sending things up into lower earth orbit like balloons. You've seen these viral videos all over YouTube now where you can make a balloon that will go phine uff, you attach a go pro or some other equivalent camera to it, and you just send something up and then post it to YouTube. And these things go really high. A lot of times there's a blinking light involved, and you know, just these little innovative things that are happening. Maybe that's another part of it too, because one thing we haven't mentioned yet is whether the US is rate of internet connectivity explains the number of sightings that people report. I understand that reasoning, but here's why I'm not persuaded that that could be the whole explanation, because other countries have way better internet connections in terms of speed, in terms of consistency, in terms of uh, literally any metric you can imagine. You're talking about South Korea absolutely. I'm talking about South Korea. It's so good that internet is so good. That's amazing, you know. But that's that's a good point and a good counterpoint. So we don't know how much role has to play drones. Most definitely my money is on testing of unacknowledged military vehicles or misidentified vehicles. Ben, I think you might be right in a way. The Internet connect connectivity is being channeled through our smartphones that we all carry around now, so we can all pick up our camera at almost any time, not all of us, of course, but many of us and just film if we think we see a UFO, right, so the sighting itself gets documented faster and more reliably. But at the same time, to me, that has the potential to diminish the um impact of a mirror sighting and report when we are all most of us equipped with the stuff to capture the damn thing. You know, why don't we have more convincing UFO videos? If it's about the rise of technology and the quickness of being able to report something, why aren't we seeing more Twitter posts, Instagram pictures of legit sightings. And here's another thing, why aren't they being identified more concisely or definitively. Uh, if if this, all of this technology exists. If not, and it is true that now, more than any other point in human history, there will be multiple people able to document the same thing, right, all three of us. If we're out on an adventure somewhere and we see something really cool, all three of us are going to secure some sort of evidence of it. Right. And with those three different angles than the chances of us being able to identify something dramatically increase. So there's another question here, which is why are these things not being identified more efficiently? Why are they still unknown? But there's just more of them. That's why, again, my money goes on unacknowledged private sector testing of things or military applications. You beat me to it, then that seems completely believable, because, as we know, usually the military do a pretty good job of keeping their new technology under wraps and from the public until they're done with it. People didn't even know that stealth helicopters existed. Yeah, right, and now now the secrets out and that's still kind of a oxy more onto me a stealth helicopter. It's like the quiet yell Wilhelm screen, you know, what I am seeing a viable business plan here, guys. A service. Maybe we can call it UFO. Maybe that's what it's called. And it's an app on your phone and all you have to do is take a video or whatever however you get it, uh, send it through the service. And there's human beings on the other side who collate data from the f f A f A A from other sources. About like, are there any kind of balloon festivals going on right now? Is there a wedding where they were Chinese lanterns going up? A balloon festival? That sounds charming. There might be a balloon I don't know if there's such things. Sounds like a lot of fun. We could just start a balloon festival. I was thinking hot air balloons. Sure, sure, all balloons. But you you just sent in you say, hey, was this UFO, and then somebody can go, h it was this or yes it was so two things. First off, I think that's a great idea. I feel like some in this process should be swiping left or right. It's very big on phones now, so just maybe they swipe to determine the vassity. Secondly, um, I don't know about I don't know about you know, but from Matt's pitch, I think what I like the most is the balloon festival. Man, do you want to do a balloon fest We'll do the app as well, but I think we should premier it at this balloon festival. Alright, what about a balloon festival app where you can find your nearest balloon festival? Heaven? I would pay for that. I wouldn't pay much, but I pay. See that we have to start another company that hosts balloon festivals. Okay, well, now that we've talked about it on air, everyone just keep this a secret until we can roll it out, because you're the best part of this show and we depend on you. Uh, speaking of you, I guess it's time for shut at Corner. Our first out out today comes from lower Gar the Terrible I added second at Vaults of x Stoff, which still sounds pretty pretty terrible. Um by terrible, I mean metal metal, like like uh intimidating. And some of you may actually remember Lord Gar at Vaults of x thof x Off Vaults of x Off. He has written to us before. Lord Gar If that's his real name, I hope so, but I I sort of doubt it. Um. Just finished our documentary about the Georgia Guystones on Amazon, hooray, and he made a great point. Um. He says, quote, one thing about the eugenics angle of the Guystones is, uh, if it was for white supremacy, why also have a language like sanscript? That is a very um. I I if that is there's there's no indication of race. It seems to be it's more about intellect. Yeah, there is no clear indication. But one thing I think is a great point brought up by your question, Lord Gar is that the many, many racially oriented supremacy movements idolize or fetish size, or imagine some relationship with an ancient, pre existing culture. So a lot of people that would be identified as white supremacists today we're traveling, as you know, European colonizers or something, and they see the ruins of this huge African empire and then instead of saying, well, the people who lived here previously must have done this, they would be like, ah, the white city in Africa. So there's this confirmation bias that exists. Um. But I still think that is an excellent question if they are um supremacist of any sort then why would they also have Yeah, yeah, that's true. That doesn't seem like a very supremacist oriented thing. But that's a great question. And thanks for thanks for watching the documentary. If anyone else out there has not seen it, it is available for free on Amazon Video. If you don't have Prime, I think you get bugged by a couple of ads. But if you do, then it is ad free all the live long day. Check it out and let us know what you think. And for all of you out there in Canada or Australia, especially especially folks in Australia and Bananada, which is a country I just made up a Bananada. Well, all of y'all, um, you can't watch it right now currently because of the restrictions on Amazon. However, we are finding way, a way, a solution to make this work for Illumination Global Unlimited. They've you know, they have their scruples. We're gonna We're gonna make it work for them, so look for it soon. Our next shout out comes from Chad Sandborn, another familiar name at Chad Sandborn, He writes, did you see this red mercury scare fascinating? Since it doesn't exist? And you guys discussed it last month. I did not see this. He sent us an a j C article that's our hometown newspaper. It is I believe Chad is in atlantin y a t alien alien. I don't know how to say that properly, but this is I'm just gonna read a quick excerpt from this says officials are investigating in downtown Atlanta after reports that a man claiming to have red mercury from Africa walked into the region to location of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission. Interesting, right, Um, it's says they're still gathering information on the call. And here's another quote. Red mercury is reportedly a substance used to create nuclear bombs, but its existence has not been documented. Nope, it hasn't. Wasn't that some of that Nazi tech in the episode? Hey, but the police in Atlanta took it seriously. Apparently parts of peach Free Street, Peach Free Center Avenue in Courtland Street, down by g s U on the mater U they were closed off and officers were redirecting traffic. A hasmat team, a bomb squad, and fire trucks were seen near the in the investigation dude, do you think that's what blew up the bridge? Was it a red mercury experiment? Hold on, this is from marcht we haven't have we talked about at the show. Okay, so, uh several several days ago. It's it's April five as we record this, right, just a few days before it comes out. Time travels weird, I know, welcome to the show. Uh a few a mere a few days ago. Uh, part of a very important interstate here in Atlanta. It's an artery. Yeah, it's an artery to the beating heart of the city. And it caught a fire and collapsed. And you may be saying, Matt, no, old b in why would you have bridges of oily rags and would But this was not a would bridge. This is concrete and steel, baby, and didn't. However, happened to have an enormous stockpile of heavily flammable materials stored underneath it. Yeah, which which quantifier the official narrative? Now? Um, well, first, there were no injuries, not even fatalities. There were no injuries. And this was at the you know, the hinterlands chronologically speaking of Russia. So strange because it was rush hour. Right, it was like at the end of rush hour. I drove by it at six. He took that photo and posted onto the Facebook where you can follow us. We are conspiracy stuff. Correct, watch it now before it gets taken down. Wait, why did you say it like you're going to take it down. I don't know. You might only be able to see it for the next few minutes. Something from like snapchat kind of thing. Yeah, they sound like and in the characters. Yeah, I'm going to take Suvencheon down. So we'd like to hear your take on what happened, just to let you know the current stance of the officials. Oh, I get it because of Red Mercury. It was it was it was a Nazi. Yeah, that's what I was going for sure. Yeah, if you heard that part that, I hope we cut out German listeners. We appreciate your time immensely. Oh, thank you. So with just this so that this bridge story real quick. Currently, the people who were arrested were three three um. They were described as homeless people in the news, and apparently they had met previously. I love the way this was depicted. Uh, they met under the bridge and began having a discussion about smoking crack, which makes it sound like there was a meeting dude planning on smoking. It makes it sound like somebody said, you know, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for meeting me here tonight. I'd like to thank snake bite for bringing the beans. There's no one named snake bite, but those those people were apprehended and trade and for the official purposes, thought to be the originators of this fire. But again no one was hurt. Time moves on traffic will be terrible. But for some reason, you know, for years and years they have been stories very flammable things under the bridge, PVC material and that was the Georgia Department of Transportation that put it under there, so it was kind of their fault. Like oops, it is definitely in code violation, right, sure, so we have one more email here. Uh. Nathaniel P. Writes in and says, what up, guys, this nudy. I just came across the topic that always bothered me. Do you remember the Michael Hastings car accident a few years back. The recent wiki leaks vault to seven release allegedly as info regarding CIA tech capabilities. Among those listed are weaponized malware and remote hacking, ironic because that is exactly how conspiracy realists believe he died. Was he planning on exposing the CIA like he did General Petraeus? Was he targeted by the CIA? I remember reading he died shortly after telling his lawyer he was being investigated by the FBI. This also brings to mind the Air and Swarts death, which is really similar. Both died shortly after being investigated by the FBI in twenty and then goes on to say that he enjoyed the Guide Stones documentary and he wonders if we are planning on making more documentary style films in the future. Do you remember the Michael Hastening stuff. It brings a very very tiny bell. Yeah, I very much remember that. And the whole discussion at the time was, hey, can cars be hacked? Can these new smart cars that are connected the Internet can hacked? And the answer came one equivalent on equivocally, yes, it can happen. Uh. It was also noted that in most situations you would have to physically get into the vehicle and attach yourself to one of the onboard computers to to make it function, like put a back door in. Essentially in the main onboard computer. Yeah, but it was shown that if you did, if you did successfully get in there, you could stop the brakes, you could make the cars engine turn over and go. You could like mess with all the lights and they're conditioning. Pretty much anything you wanted to do, you could do to a car. And one of those things is make it go really fast into a tree. Right. So the Hastings information, when Hastings and Swords passed away, the current information said that you can do this, but it has to be plugged in physically to the car's computer. But now it seems that the CIA has the technology that was always speculated that they have. And what's more, that this can be remotely accessed with no physical contact with the car. That is so scary. So the car itself becomes the weapon. And you're right, new T, that's what that. The the hacks indicate that they are definitely, if not already capable of doing so working on that and it's a super valuable you know, it's a super valuable tool to have for that line of work. I don't want to be able to remotely control other people's cars that would go power man. I have very definite opinions about how people should behave in traffic. Oh you could. You could be a car hacker for good. Everybody, every I guarantee you everybody who is doing that thinks they are also a car hacker for good. Oh yeah, you're well maybe yeah. Good is just like uh good depends on where you stand and when you meet it. You're more of a brown hat hacker, yeah yeah, or or a red hat just for the excitement. I like that. And just make everybody use their blinkers all the time. That's all I ask. Please. That's going into something that's a different show, but we we appreciate it. Thank you for not letting Michael Hastings be forgotten, Newty, and thank you for your interests. We we do have some on the way. Um, we can't give you definites right now, but stay tuned and act surprised. This concludes our Like we said right to us, you are the best part of the show and we need you to make it as good as it can be so you can find it. And that's the end of this classic episode. If you have any thoughts or questions about this episode, you can get into contact with us in a number of different ways. One of the best is to give us a call. Our number is one eight three three st d w y t K. 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