This is a 3 minute edited version of a larger interview conducted with Professor David Hesmondhalgh from the University of Leeds. Eliza Pall's edited production includes the part of the interview where Professor Hesmondhalgh discusses the double edged nature of music streaming profits on Spotify and Apple music, extending this knowledge to podcasting.

With additional musical composition by Eliza Pall, as well as all technical and editorial decision making. You can contact her at eliza.f.pall AT gmail DOT com