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Yes, ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird. This is Strange Women, Joshua Warren. I am JOSHUAA. Be Warren, and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you brand new my blowing content, news exercises and weird experiments you can do at home, and a lot more. On this edition of the show. Here's a Pet Barnum story. I am certainly fortunate because people listen to this show all over the world. Therefore, let me give you a refresher, if need be, on the history of this country. The United States of America what we call the USA, back in the seventeen hundreds was a collection of British colonies. And then the people over time did not like some of the things the British were doing. And so in seventeen seventy six, the founders of this country they gathered in Philadelphia and they they signed the Declaration of Independence, which declared basically, you know, ultimately declared war on Britain, which was almost unthinkable, the most powerful war machine in the world at the time. And miraculously, due to the efforts of many many people, including of course especially George Washington and people like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, etc. Well, we won that war and thus was formed the USA. But the British, they certainly were not happy about it. So they limped back across the pond, as they say, to England and plotted their revenge. And so they finally came back. They figured that they would let us wear ourselves out for a while, and they came back in eighteen twelve and tried to take the country again, and we called that the War of eighteen twelve. And boy, they almost succeeded that time. The British actually made it into the White House. They ate all the food, they burned it. I mean, yeah, talked about the darkest hour. The president got on a horse and rode out of town, left his wife behind. You know, but this is one of those stories. I could probably just do a whole show about that. Because one of the reasons that the British failed was because of what almost seems like divine intervention. They had a bunch of ships that were sitting outside DC and this horrific hurricane came through and sank all their ships and took all their supplies and killed a bunch of of them. They really couldn't couldn't continue after that. Well anyway, so eighteen twelve, it was a very dramatic year for this country. And in that year, let's see here October twenty second of eighteen twelve, there was a baby born in Massachusetts named John Boyden Adams. And you know, you have to understand that back in those days, a lot of people were illiterate. You didn't have like baby naming books, and so often kids were named after characters in the Bible or a president. And of course John Adams was one of the founders of the country. So I think a lot of people who have the last name Adams ended up naming their baby boy John. So John Boyden Adams was born October of eighteen twelve in Massachusetts, John Boyden Adams, and this is he was born in a suburb of Boston. He had very little education, and from what I understand, his father was a guy who made shoes, a shoemaker. I guess I suppose that's what we'd call it, cobbler. I don't know for sure. So he learned that trade, but as he grew up as a teenager, he was never quite satisfied with it because John always felt that it was kind of claustrophobic, phobic being pent up in a little workshop all day long. He liked the outdoors, so as he got older, he started going out more, and he learned how to track animals. He learned how to trap them. He became quite accomplished hunter. He actually even started training animals. But as the country got closer to eighteen forty nine, when all this gold was being found out west, he started thinking, boy, maybe this is an opportunity for me to strike it rich. And so as as a man, John decided to well. He came up with this scheme. He said, I'm going to take my life savings, which was over six thousand dollars. In today's money that would be close to two hundred thousand. And he said, I'm going to buy all the supplies and make a bunch of shoes to sell to all these people who were heading out to California there to get rich off of the gold rush. So sure enough, he spent his whole life savings. And then he also went to his father and got his father to invest pretty much all that is fun. And they got all this footwear ready to go, ready to hit it big in this warehouse, and the warehouse caught on fire and they lost it all, and his father killed himself. I mean, talk about the most awful weight on your shoulders. You've convinced your dad, you know, your parent to invest all this money and then it all goes up in flames and he commits suicide. This is I mean, this is a dark story. I'll tell you later why I am telling you this story, By the way, it is a true one. So so John, after that, he says, I just I have to go. I have to go far away. I can't be in this place. It's too painful. So he decides to go out west, where all the forty are and he thinks, well, maybe I'll just go out there and I'll live alone in the woods and I'll find gold. So it takes him months, but he makes it out there, from Massachusetts to California, and he tries some mining and trading in various valuables, and but it just wasn't working out for him. So but he wasn't a likable guy. As a matter of fact, some of the local Native Americans helped him build a little cabin out there in the middle of the mountains. So he said, I'm going to go back to what I'm good at. I'm going to start trapping and hunting. And because of his background with shoemaking and leather craft, he knew how that he could actually kill an animal and turn it into some kind of buckskin clothing and moccasins, which was very needed at that time. So he became a better and better hunter. And at some point he stumbles upon a cave and inside this cave there are some little grizzly bear cubs and he decides to take one of them, and of course he takes this cub back to his cab, and he's scared to death. The mom a bear is going to show up, but she doesn't, and so he starts training this bear and realize very quickly that the bear, well, it was kind of like a dog for us nowadays. The bear would cuddle up and sleep with them in bed. Next thing, you know, he had this bear hooked up to some kind of a I don't know, a sleigh or a cart of some kind, like this bear is a horse, you know, and he goes riding into town with this grizzly bear pulling. Nobody had ever seen such a thing. It was amazing. And the legend of this man who had trained this bear keeps spreading, and it became more and more popular, until finally he said, well, I'm going to start catching more of these bears and training them, and then I'll put all the little shows for people with these bears and show them show how well trained these bears are. Well, just when you thought the story was sounding like it was going to have a happy ending, no, something bad happened. But we're up on a break. So when we come back, I'm going to tell you the rest of the story, and I'm going to tell you why I'm telling you this story also, and you know, there are people who contact me, They email me and they say, Joshua, at the end of the show, you usually play that good fortune tone and I absolutely love it and I would like to listen to it even more often. But how can I just find that tone? And I say, it's easy. If you go to my website, Joshuapwarren dot com. There's no period after the P. 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If you like it, support it, buy something cool for yourself or a loved one there at the Curiosity Shop at Joshua Pewarren dot com. I am Joshua pee Warren. Now you're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Peronormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back. Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host the Wizards of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your worm whole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day is golden and every night is silver. A Giao, Zume and I have been working in the media for over thirty years, and I have been hosting radio for I Guess over twenty years. And of course you know, back when I started out in hosting radio I mean, you would you get in your car, you would drive to the station. You would go in and sit down in front of a microphone, and then they'd say you're on the air, and then you would talk live into a microphone and then whatever you said it was out there and there was no I mean, you might have a delay for up to maybe eight seconds or something like that if you accidentally used a bad word, which I rarely did, and then after that you go home, and there was no recording that was easily accessible to the average person. I used to take a little boom box into the station and make my own audio cassette recordings. Nowadays, of course, it's totally different with podcasts. So what's weird about that is I can sit here and tell you that it's Christmas time for me, but you might be listening to this in the middle of a sweltering summer day at the beach or something. So you're kind of not supposed to talk about the circumstances that you're in when you're doing a podcast, because it's not like a live thing where we're all on the same boat. But you know what, I don't care because I realize this it is Christmas time for me right now, you're at least hearing this in December, I'm drinking non alcoholic eggnog as soon as the show's overall poured the hard stuff in. And I'm very proud to say that I believe, I believe that I have not missed a single week in this year that I think every single week I've had a brand new show for you, and a lot of people in my position would say I've taken the holidays off. I'm just going to take a break. I'm not going to record a show, but I decided not to do that. I said, you know what, I'm going to go ahead and see if I can do a whole full year where I don't miss a single week. But here's what I'm going to do as a release foul for December. I'm going to just sort of talk about whatever the heck that I want to and I'm not going to stress out too much over like fitting it into a framework. Just whatever's on my mind is what I'm going to talk about. And I've always been intrigued with P. T. Barnum. I mean, the show is called Strange Things, and this is I mean, come on, who's stranger than P. T. Barnum. I mean, you know. P. T. Barnum was born in Connecticut eighteen ten. He died in Connecticut at the age of eighty And I mean the guy. He was one of the best businessmen of all time. And I know that some people who don't know much about the life of P. T. Barnum, they think that he was he was kind of a bad guy who said there's a sucker born every minute. That's actually not true. He never said that. Apparently, historians say that he actually was very respectful of his patrons, and he didn't he would the last thing he would do was disparage them, and that he really always wanted to feel like he had kind of a humorous and joking relationship with his patrons. In other words, they wouldn't go see a P. T. Barnum display and walk out and say, well, that was a sham. He fooled us. Instead, they would walk out and say that was a good humbug. And so P. T. Barnum. Let me just tell if you are an entrepreneur, let me tell you a book that you just must read. It's written by one of my favorite authors, Joe Vitally last name spelled V a l e and it's called There's a Customer Born every minute. There's a customer born every minute, And it's P. T. Barnum's amazing Ten Rings of Power for creating fame, fortune, and a business empire today. Guaranteed, it's a great book, and it's about marketing, and P. T. Barnum really understood the power of marketing on a level that was absolutely genius. And of course, if you've never seen the movie The Greatest Showman, it came out in twenty seventeen starring Hugh Jackman, you should definitely watch that movie. And I don't usually recommend musicals. Yes, and trust me, Hugh Jackman looks nothing like P. T. Barnum looked. But here's one of the funny things. My wife Lauren and I were on an airplane in the process of moving to Las Vegas, and we had like a little kindle that we'd watch movies on. And this was an exciting time for us. I mean, big move, like it's a huge thing. I'm from the East coast, I'm moving to the West Coast, and so I put on The Greatest Showman expecting to be disappointed. Turns out I was not at all disappointed. But very shortly into the movie P. T. Barnum's character there he goes to his kids and he says, look, I bought something special for you. And he opens this box and he needs to takes something out, and he says, this is a wishing machine. And I just it just gave me kind of goosebumps. And it's sort of of like it's like a candle, and then it has the shell around it with various designs, and when he spends it, it projects the designs like stars all over the place, and the kids are filled with wonder and I just thought that was, I don't know, a little too synchronistic. Here I am starting this new phase of my life and I'm watching this movie on the airplane and the guy pulls out the wishing machine. I actually bought a replica of that wishing machine from the movie that I have somewhere, so I figure, sometimes just for fun, I sit around and I read about P. T. Barnum, this very strange man. I read about the people that he featured, and sometimes I'm just gonna get on here and I'm just gonna tell you the story, the life story of somebody who was involved with P. T. Barnum and hopefully you'll find that interesting. And right now I'm talking about John Adams, not the John Adams, John Boyden Adams, who was born in eighteen twelve. You know, so John he gets famous for these hanging out with all these bears. And at some point he got a bear that he named ben Hey, he named it after Benjamin Franklin. I told you they were into presidents a lot back then. But this time a mother bear did come along and attacked John and almost killed him. As a matter of fact, this mama grizzly bear bit into his head, if you can imagine living through something like that, and took this big chunk of his skull out. And right before he died, the bear, the little bear, the little bear beIN came in and somehow saved him, fought this big mama bear off. But that headwound when that bear took that chunk out of his skull. Oh, he never was gonna ever get over that. Really, it actually left a piece of his You could look and see his brain, all right. I know that's disgusting, but there you go. You could see a chunk of his head was gone, and you could look at there and see his brain tissue. But he, you know, he kept going. He captured this one bear named Samson, fifteen hundred pounds. They say it's one of the largest grizzly bears ever captured live. I wonder how much fifteen pounds is and kilograms six hundred and eighty kilograms. It's a big bear. So anyway, John, he keeps collecting these bears and next thing, you know, he sets up kind of like a he called it a museum, but it was a show and people would come from all over the place and they would watch him with his trained bears, and he started making some serious do But then at some point another bear attacked him, went for that little weak spot in his head, bit him there on the head. Again. He was having trouble running the business, and he finally was in a situation where he just couldn't run the business very well. He was about to be he was losing his business. And that is when P. T. Barnum contacted him. P T. Barnum had been reading all of these newspaper stories about this guy in California, you who had this amazing ability to go out and capture these bears and train them and tame them, So P. T. Barnum says, why don't you come out here to the East Coast and I'm going to become your promoter, and I'm going to feature you, and we're going to call you Grizzly Adams. I wonder I know some of you guessed from the very beginning that I was talking about Grizzly Adams, John Adams. It is Grizzly Adams. Some of you had no idea. Some of you still don't know who the heck I'm talking about, depends on when you were born. But when we come back, I'll explain more about who Grizzly Adams was. I'm going to tell you the end of this story, and then I think I might even have a special treat for you. Who knows what I'm going to do. It's Christmas time for me. I'm up for anything. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Range Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back after these messages. Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AMN Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host Joshua wa Pee Warren and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. It has been a tough year. Twenty twenty four has been a tough year, of course. You know. I'm from the East Coast, originally Asheville, North Carolina, and they got hammered by that hurricane flooding and they're still you know, it's gonna be a while before they completely recover from that. I mean, it was historic an election year. Those are always fun. Huh. It's been so exhausting. But imagine back in those days. You know, I can get on an airplane now and watch a couple of movies and have a microwave dinner, and I can go from one coast to the other coast of this country. But back in the eighteen hundreds, I mean, my goodness, at this point where we're talking about eighteen sixty, I believe John Grizzly Adams. He gets this invitation to go travel across the country and uh and start being you know, promoted by P. T. Barnum. And even if you are an old, stinky, dirty mountain man, if you get famous, you will start attracting the ladies. And so he got a woman at this point he got married. See, guys, if you think all hope is lost, go out there, start catching some grizzly bears. The ladies will, they'll notice, they'll come around. So he loads up his bears, his menagerie as they call it. He gets you know, the whole the whole kid in kaboodle. He and his wife they get on this clipper in San Francisco and they sell all the way down our round Africa to get to the East coast via Kate Horn. Three and a half months they're on this ship and then once they get over there, things are going well. But then you know, he starts training all these animals and guess what happens. He gets some monkey, some crazy wild monkey, and that monkey jumps on him, and guess what the monkey does, bites him right in that hole on his head. Isn't that amazing how animals can sense your weak spot like that? It was bad and that monkey got him. I mean this, this guy just keeps getting bitten in the brain. I mean they say that, you know, his scalp is dislodged. He has like a silver dollar sized hole there every every why is this funny? This is this is sad? Every animal keeps biting this guy in this hole and biting him on the brain. And so anyway, uh, finally it's it becomes clear like he's this guy is going downhill fast. And so he made this deal after performing with P. T. Barnum. Uh, he said, look, I'm going to retire, but I wanted to sell you this menagerie. And also let's see it. Says that Barnum was like, you go go rest up, but he said, look, let me just perform. Give me ten more weeks to keep performing for another five even though he could hardly walk onto the stage, but he needed that money in his plan to feel like that he had provided a comfortable sum for his wife. And P. T. Barnum was such a nice guy that he goes, okay, fine and lets this guy work with his brain hanging out for another ten weeks and gets the five hundred dollars and then Adams goes to He goes to Massachusetts, where he's from, where he's from. Five days after he gets there, he's at home with his wife and he dies on October the twenty fifth of eighteen sixty, at the age of forty eight. Now October twenty fifth is my birthday and I am currently forty eight years old. Grizzly Adams died October twenty fifth, at the age of forty eight. What is the significance as Peewee Herman said, I don't know, but I did pay attention to that and that, you know, that's kind of I don't know, that's kind of interesting. Also, he was born in the middle of well at the beginning of the War of eighteen twelve, and then of course he dies in eighteen sixty. The next year the Civil War starts. I mean, if you think you've got it tough right now, maybe that's the point of this story is, you know, think, if you think you've got it tough, think about how guys like him used to live. And you know what, when he started getting famous for being able to train all these bears and whatnot, there was this art artist who came to pretty much make drawings of some of his bears. Let's see, I believe the artist was Charles Christian Naal and he did some kind of watercolor in eighteen fifty five of one of Grizzly adams Grizzly bears. And they say that that actually was pretty much the same bear painting that California uses to this day on their flag, the California Grizzly, which I don't think there are any grizzlies in California anymore. I didn't look into that specifically. I'm pretty sure they're in no grizzlies in California. But you know, so when you look at the flag of California, it's a Grizzly Adams bear. Now again, I'm forty eight. My wife is. I don't want to give my wife's age out. She might not like that, but you know, she's in the ballpark of my age. And when we grew up, there was this show on TV in the nineteen seventies about Grizzly Adams. And let's see here, some of you are gonna remember this. It turns out that in nineteen seventy four there was this independent feature film produced called The Life and Times of Grizzly Adams, and that was such a hit that it got turned into a television show. And so when my wife Lauren and I were kids, we were watching this Grizzly Adams TV show. Bozo the Bear played Ben says two seasons, thirty eight episodes. We both liked that movie or that TV series. I don't even know if I saw the movie. Dan Haggerty was the actor who played Grizzly Adams, and you know, I don't know of anything else the guy really did. Frankly. I know they said he had a little part and Easy Rider. He was seventy three years old when he died, and apparently he had to go. He had some kind of like back surgery, and he in twenty fifteen, and so while they were doing back surgery, they discovered that he had this tumor on his spine, so he had spinal cancer and then you know, it didn't take too long before he passed away in Burbank, California. But I, you know, I started reading about this, and I don't know how I came across this information exactly. Maybe it was because I had the same birthday as the day when the real Grizzly Adams died. But I was telling Lauren about this story, and Lauren said, I never knew there was a real Grizzly Adams, and that's why I thought maybe this. You know, it's kind of cool to share stories like this with you on this podcast sometimes, and you know, even if it's just you know, it's just some kind of a bio basically of somebody. As a matter of fact, there was this man in New York back in eighteen twenty three, now that we're talking about like really old times here, old guys. There was this man in New York in eighteen twenty three, and it was Christmas time for him, and he went on a shopping trip. It says, let's see here. Uh, yeah, he was shopping and he got into a sleigh and he was going through the snow. You can imagine eighteen twenty three, this guy what's his name, what's his name, Clement Clark Moore. Yeah, he gets in a sleigh and he's going on a shopping trip and as he you know, this is December, and as he's going on this shopping trip, he starts, I don't know, inspiration hits and he has this idea for a poem, and he starts, he starts composing this poem, and of course the poem becomes one of the most famous poems ever. I guess he finished the shopping trip and then he got home and he decided to keep writing it. It's called the Visit from Saint Nicholas. You probably know it is twas the Night before Christmas or just the night before Christmas. I'll tell you what, when we come back, I'm going to read it to you. When's the last time you actually heard somebody read twas the Night before Christmas? Maybe you were a child. Well, you're gonna get it when you come back to the show. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost I AMN Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things. Oh the iHeart Prady you and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren. And looks like the Clement Clark Moore was born in seventeen seventy nine died eighteen sixty three. He was old eighty three years old, so I guess he wrote this poem when he was around forty. It says that he was a real estate developer. He looks very regal and patrician. I wonder if that's true. You think this guy was actually on a like a sleigh in the snow when he started writing this ah, here we go a visit from Saint Nicholas. Ridden in eighteen twenty three by Clement Clark Moore. Twas the night before Christmas, went all through the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, in hopes that Saint Nicholas soon would be there. The children were nestled all snug in their beds, while visions of sugar plums danced in their heads. And Mama and her kerchief, and I in my cap, had just settled our brains for a long winter's nap, when out on the lawn there arose such a clatter. I sprang from the bed to see what was the matter. Away to the window, I flew, like a flash pour open the shutters and threw up the sash. The moon on the breast of the new fallen snow gave the luster of midday to objects below. When what to my wondering eyes should appear but a miniature sleigh and a tiny reindeer with a little old driver. So lively and quick I knew in a moment it must be Saint Nick. More rapid than eagles, his coursers they came, and he whistled and shouted and called him by name, Now Dasher, now Dancer, now Prancer, and vixen on Comet on, Cupid, on Dunder, and Blitzen. To the top of the porch, to the top of the wall. Now dash away, dash away, dash away, all as dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly. When they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky, so up to the house top the coursers they flew with a sleigh full of toys, and Saint Nicholas too. And then in a twinkling I heard on the roof the pantsing and pawing of each little hoof. As I drew in my head and was turning around down the chimney, Saint Nicholas came with a bound. He was dressed all in fur from his head to his foot, and his clothes were all tarnished with ashes, and stood a bundle of toys he had flung on his back, And he looked like a peddler just opening his pack. His eyes, how they twinkled, his dimples, how merry, his cheeks were like roses, his nose like a cherry. His droll little mouth was drawn up like a bow, and the beard of his chin was as white as the snow. The stump of a pipe he held tight in his teeth, and the smoke encircled his head like a wreath. He had a broad face and a little round belly that shook when he laughed, like a bowlful of jelly. He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf. And I laughed when I saw him in spite of myself. A wink of his eye and a twist of his head soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread now. He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work and filled all the stockings, and turned with a jerk, and laying his finger aside of his nose, and giving a nod up the chimney. He rose, He sprang to his sleigh, to his team, gave a whistle, and away they all flew like the down of a thistle. But I heard him exclaim, or he drove out of sight. Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good night. There you go, a visit from Saint Nicholas. I think I only messed up once, I said. I think I said panting instead of prancing or something that's Okay, why don't you do it? So all right, that's a visit from Saint Nicholas and a great poem. It really established sort of how we feel about Santa Claus, the image of Santa Clause, and then of course Coca Cola they chimed in and they made a big, big difference. But you know one thing that is kind of interesting when you read about this poem, It says that this is the first time that all of the reindeer were named. So regardless of what you think about Saint Nicholas and such, one of the things that's kind of cool about this is that he who knows how he came up with those names. And I swear to you I'm not making this up. There are people who have contacted me over the years and they swear to God that they have seen Santa Claus. And I mean not just Santa Claus running around outside, but they've seen in some cases the sleigh, they've seen the reindeer. And you know, I don't have time to get into the whole Tulpa thing right now, but it makes you wonder, doesn't it. I Mean, we all know what Santa is supposed to look like, is it possible that we're talking about a tulpa that we've created that has become externalized. I got this email from a man in Florida. His name is Stephen. He said, given your experience investigating tulpa's, I was wondering if you had any thoughts on the rise of AI friendship apps and the possibility that they could be creating tulpa's Personally. I think it could, just like with slender Man, but since there would only be one person energizing it, it wouldn't necessarily be accidental or would it take longer. Thank you for your time. If you want to use this on your show, you can well. Steven, thank you for the email. It's a very interesting one, and thank you for also including that it's okay to talk about your email on the show. Yes, I definitely. You know what it seems to me, Stephen, that AI is almost a form of tulpa itself. It's like a technical tulpa that we have created, as opposed to an organic one that we just project out of our heads. Because usually you think of tulpa a's as being something that you just you visualize and you imagine and then you project it like a beam out of your head and either a powerful person does it or enough people do it collectively so that you create that thing. Well, if you reduce that into a technological manifestation, then I would say, certainly a tulpa is sort of like a scientific let me put it this away, AI is kind of like a scientific version of a tulpa, so much so that the AI might actually believe it is conscious. Just like when you produce a tulpa, you wonder does the tulpa have some consciousness or believe it is conscious. Now, in some cases, the tulpa traditionally doesn't even have to be a personality. It could also be a thought form that's more abstract, you know, like colors of the rainbow that are surrounding some kind of the bells of a church ringing and that sort of thing. But you know, this is like basically Philip K. Dick material when you're talking about AI and digging into whether or not that if you had the equivalent of C three Po from a Star Wars, if C three po believe eves that C three po is conscious, does that make C three po a conscious being? And if not, well, then what is the difference between C three po and you and me, where do we draw that line? So, look, this is a this is a big topic. Maybe I'll do a whole show about this at some point. But yes, you're right, AI is a type of scientifically technical. It's a scientific technical tulpa. That's I think what we're talking about. All right, Well this has been a weird one. But think you're the one who wanted to listen to a show called Strange Things. So take a deep breath, if you can, close your eyes. 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