What The Hell Is Going Down In Tennessee Pt.2

Published Apr 21, 2023, 1:11 PM
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Don't want to ask you a question.

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The Tennessee three topic was such a hot topic that I wanted to hear from you, so I hosted a three hour Twitter space with people with opposing views. Now, no worries. I won't ask you to sit through all three hours at once, but my phenomenal producer shout out to Dwayne, has broken it down into three parts. We will be releasing this over the next three weeks. This is part two. And I don't tell you to vote for people that you don't believe in. Don't but then run somebody. Then run somebody you you you support and you believe in. But saying you're not going to vote, I got news for you if you ever ran a field campaign. I don't know how many of you have ever worked field in a campaign. I know Danny has I'm bringing him up next, but I got news for you. The non voters, they're never even a part of the equation. It is always people that don't vote. It's always going to be more people that don't vote that do vote. Should the conversation be out there that if you don't do what we say, we're gonna do what we want, don't vote. Yes, I support that. I think provocative conversations are important. But when you actually go into the van system, the voter action network system, we strategically go look for the win number. It's called the win number, and it means that I can have one hundred and a lot of seats, may have four hundred thousand city commissioner seats, four hundred thousand registered voters, and I only need twelve hundred to come to the post fifty percent plus one. So all I gotta do is go five twelve, twelve hundred people. So you talking about you ain't gonna vote. It's not a threat to them, y'all. I just want y'all to know.

That's why they don't rep that.

Yeah, they don't give a damn. Now, if you want to be a threat, this is how you do it. You go split the vote. You go say hey, if if such and such needs twelve hundred. I'm gonna go get six hundred to go vote for Danny. Now you're splitting the vote so you don't have to vote for the piss poor candidate. But I'm telling you the no vote strategy. That strategy is already in place because there's already more people that don't vote that do vote. So you're not coming up with a new strategy. Guys, it's more people in the cut. That's why the NAACP and are always talking about registering voters, registered voters. I don't talk about registered voters. I talk about who can I get to the polls to get Danny in office? Okay, six hundred, that's all. Let me go find six hundred, go to getwo hundred over here. I'm get a hundred over there and get five hundred. That's how it works. So when you're hearing that, it tells me there's a disconnect on what a win number means actually working on a campaign. In fact, the lower the number, the better, Please stay at home, because that make it easier for me to get fifty percent plus one.

And then don't let it be more than folk candidates in a race, So you splitning that amongst folk candidates. So you ain't gotta go and get that many votes. You just got to get enough to beat the other three candidates.

That's it, And they could be by fifty people. The candidate that I put on my Instagram, y'all, Melody More. I've been asking her to run literally for ten years, since twenty thirteen. Literally she finally decided to run. Guess how many votes she had myself five hundred and forty one votes and one. She beat another candidate by twenty point twenty votes. How many were registered in her district hundreds of thousands. It don't matter how many people are registered. So when y'all she is, I'm just gonna be one of them hundreds of thousands that don't vote cool, good looking out homie. Because now I gotta do is go find five hundred and twenty one people. That's what I'm That's why it don't make no sense. They don't want to never explain it to y'all, so they just sit back and say they don't know what they're talking about. Oh no, talk about I'm here to give y'all a game. If you want to piss off the establishment, go get another candidate. But sitting up talking about she we just ain't gonna vote.

Great.

I've been saying that. I said, I appreciate and that definitely get no tangibles, no vote. I said, what's the next step. The next step if we run as a candidate, or we run a candidate who's going to offer us to tangibles and then we support and vote for them. I've been saying that from the mountain top, Danny, give us some field game.

It's up, Yes, matte Chez. I appreciate your inviody, mother speaking, I won't be long gone.

I definitely wanted to bring my words, especially with you talking about politics being local. I think if you don't take anything from this or from what I'm saying right now, is you take that one line.

All politics is local.

Everything leads back to that city council person, that county commissioner, that waterboard chairman, that electricity board, if you have it in your area.

I mean, all politics is local.

So when you talk about going block by block, precint by precind that doesn't start from the congressional level, that doesn't start from the Senate level. That stuff starts from the basic level of politics. And the thing is a lot of folks like to run from that level because, yes, the lower you go in politics as far as the positions go, the more messier the shit gets. I mean, it's messy all across the board. But you can ask Tammy Sorry, who's a commissioner from Memphis on the line right now? The commission the city council gets messy. So it's not the sexy position. It's it's not the position that you can just raise some money and just walk into. No, you got to actually build with that neighborhood captain who's been turning votes out for the last twenty years. You gotta deal with that NAACP president that's been in place for thirty something years. You gotta deal with that that you know, that crook in the city who doesn't do shit, but he can turn out five thousand votes if you put some money in his pocket. That's how you win elections. That's how you build power at the basic level. So that's the first piece I want to talk on. But the second piece I want to talk on Teddy Tesla, I want to dress Martin. I want to dress Marcell man Man. I don't know if you have already talked about it on this call, man or whatever. But I saw a few of your tweets they regarding the Tennessee Three, primarily the two black reps that were you know, were expelled from the council. Those are two black young men that have been fighting not only for reparations, they have been saving communities across the state even before it was the cool Twitter thing to do.

So I'm calling, I'm talking.

I'm gonna approach you many man, and that's that you retract those tweets and take them down, bro, especially after you know you've been called out, you know, for the erroneous, you know tweets what have you. So that's all I got to say, Taz and Marcelle, I look forward to him.

What you got to say?

Yeah, Tammy Sawyer told me already that one of them, at least I think, has been talking about reparations.

I told them, Okay, Well, I definitely stand corrected, applaud his work, and I pray that he continues and I will support him. I'm not gonna take it down, though, because if I make a mistake, how actually stand on my mistakes? And that's why what Tammy Swayer corrected me, I responded, right away and say well, then saying corrected, I was definitely wrong, and I told her I was talking about in the sense of why the protests that the Republicans weaponized. It was not one for reparations, which I'm not surprised if they're in tendency, so maybe it was not also for a black agenda, which is something that they could have been pushing. But I told her that was the context of my police, not that they haven't talked about reparations or black agenda at all. But when Tammy Sawyer, who actually knows them as work in Tennessee, told me that, I quickly told her I stand corrected, and I support him because.

I think she was referring she mentioned one of those specifically. And I pray he continues.

And I've always said at the beginning that what happens is what happened in Tennessee is problematic for the same reason that tessn't have the same It's problematic because if any any body government body that can remove another person part.

Of that government body just by voting, that's a quick way to get rid of people who might be pushing an issue.

For me, going and.

That and brother, that was my point right there, Like, you know, I don't get into the back and forth.

You know, your your platform is your platform.

But that was my very issue right there, especially with me knowing both gentlemen, so it's kind of personal in terms of me knowing them. But if they called a reparations vote on Monday and said, you know when, of course we know this would never happen. But if they say, you know, we're going to bring reparations up on Monday, that's two less Black votes that we would have. That's two less votes that we would have to support reparations. So I know that you said that you didn't care if they got removed, And I guess my point that I'm trying to make is you should carry that got moved removed. Although they weren't pushing for reparations or a black agenda this go around, but their voice when it comes to Tennessee and this conversation on making sure black people are represented, black people are environmentally discriminated against, they are at the front of the table. So but I appreciate your response. I don't want to get into a back and forth. It's not a contentious, you know, debate, a waever or anything like that, but I definite appreci your response.

Brothers.

Yeah, and we addressed it also, thank you Danny. We also addressed and thank you Marcel and Danny for being here because this is so important. I love when we can have real conversations, you know, and unfortunately I just always can't do that on Twitter space. But yeah, I brought that up, and I'm just going to re reiterate again. So Danny is from Tennessee, so obviously you know him and Tammy, you know they did. They taken it, you know, personal, as they should, just like people support Marcel and take it personal when people come after Marcelle and I get it. And and my main point is even if they wasn't supporting reparations, are not supporting reparations enough or support are supporting wear purple shirts on Monday? The bottom line is this is not about justin or them, particularly you know, about a politician. It's about the fact that the people voted someone in and they got their voices removed. So I'm more concerned about the constituents that voted them in than I am the individual politician. Because when it when the conversation starts becoming about the indid independent politician. Then we get into this type of conversation, did justin do this this part? Do that? When we start talking about the party, then it's old that the Democrats is Republicans. That when we start talking about if it's gun viole as well, it should be reparations over guns. I want people to understand that the bottom line is people sent them there to be elected and they shouldn't be expelled. And so I support even if somebody is loud as hell and wrong is hell. It's a whole lot of stuff I see, especially in this Twitter space, that be wrong and loud as hell, But I believe that people have a right to have their opinion and when somebody sends them there to give to represent them, we should not, you know, be in line with people being expelled and we don't have to agree with it, but we also don't have to go out our way to counter it as well. There's a lot of stuff that I don't agree with that I don't say anything this social media world where everybody feels they got to say something. Everything doesn't doesn't require a comment to everything. So it's plenty of shit I see that I don't like. I don't go I don't try to make a campaign against it. If I don't feel, you know, something detrimental, I just let that be because I know that at the end of the day, if it's gonna boomerang back on us, which means they're gonna take Marcel's bull home when he's ready to talk about repred they do it now. They don't want to talk it to damn rap hell they damn they put you out out of the Marion Williamson things. She shut you down, So I know that the idea of shutting it right, So she tried to shut you down. So that's the same thing that they did to Justin and them. So that's all I'm saying. I just don't support nobody being shut down and what they have to say, and nobody in this Twitter space should as well, because this Twitter space, y'all sit up here all day landing planes for forty hours straight and it's only twenty four hours in the thing. Twenty four hours straight. Somebody land on a plane. Well, I got something to say. My hand is up. I'm here to meut what I'm here to Meut what I'm here to me? But I'm here to be But so y'all got plenty to say, so why can't they have something to say? That just don't make no sense? Even if you don't like what they have what they say, all I'm saying is can we just agree? Can we just agree on this one thing that people should have the right to be heard. That's all I'm saying. They were elected to be heard. Y'all feel like y'all got something to say just having your damn hand up in the Twitter space.

I've had my hand up.

I'm learning not landing my plane, so you want something to say till you land your plane? So why can't they land their plane in the house? Ripigent? That's all I'm saying. And I understand the frustration, like I get it. I understand why y'all say, shit, fuck them if they ain't pushing what we believe in, fuck them. I get it. And that's why I'm always gonna say, if you really believe that, then who are you running?

And and tell you it's like And that's why I think. I mean, I know this isn't the call to get into it, but we're folks. We're dealing with two dichotomy, sir. We're dealing with the dichotomy of people that are like I mean, I'm not saying in this respect because both are powerful. But you got the peep on the ground who are advocating, working, pushing, you know, showing up to the meetings, and you got the people on the internet. Those two folks aren't the Those two angleages aren't translating with each other, those two languages aren't talking with each other. The activists that are online that are pushing to have huge, huge followings, they're not communicating with the people on the ground because they feel like the people on the ground aren't doing shit, and the people on the ground feel like the activists all of y'all are doing is fucking tweeting and hosting spaces and shit like that. We have to figure out a way to merge those two groups together, to figure out how we can get the best product or the best output of our actions.

Yeah, and I think that's what we're doing. What happened in this conversation. One reason why I engage with the online activists who I got much a lot of these online activists are real people that I've met in real life, is because I think that's very much a part of the of the protest, you know, even though people say, oh, protest is a waste of time, Well, what y'all doing online is protesting, by the way, is just online protesting. So I think that the provocativeness online is very much, you know, is important. But like like Danny said, you gotta respect the people that's doing the work too. But I think I think a lot of the conversation on line is necessary because some people, you know, that they need they can't you know, necessarily do something you know on the ground, and then you got your provocateurs, you got your agency chaos that are just sitting up here just causing bullshit every day. We do recognize that. But then I also think I will say on behalf of the online people that a lot of people on the ground don't respect the people online either, and they look at them as, oh, well you know, you ain't you ain't doing nothing, you just online, you know. And I think online is an important part as well, because I know a lot of the conversations that some people would never say what their real name. Sometime you need hot dog eighty nine fifty four, you know, to say something provocative, hide and behind they name. The only thing I asked hot Dog eighty nine to fifty four is put some respect on my name because I'm going to buy my real government name, so I'm not high behind no goddamn avatar. So when you come challenge me, yeah, I'm gonna hit you with a different energy because it is a different skin in the game. And that's why, Marcell. You know a lot of people it's playing pre Marcel tell me they don't like the way you advocate, But I rock with you because you put your name on the ballot. And that's why Marcel tell y'all many many times, it ain't a damn thing y'all can do about it. I love marcelle tell you, hey, he said, if you ain't putting your name on the ballot and a damn thing you can do about it. And he can say that with a chess all the way out because guess what, you ain't willing to do it. So I think it's a matter of having, you know, a mutual respect for what we do, and also having these spaces where I'm not just taking random calls too, because everybody that I've invited to the stage are people that I know that are actually doing the work, whether they do it more online or more on the ground, and a lot of times these Twitter spaces just kind of entertain everybody and everybody's opinion, and not that everybody's opinion doesn't you know, doesn't matter. But there's a lot of other, you know, motives that I see in these Twitter spaces that are not always about you know, being productive to move the ball, but just talking, you know, just to be taught. But but I wanted to put that out that I think there's a lack of mutual respect on both ends.

Can I say one more thing? I'm a dock my ship after this point of or have you? All I want to say is like I understand, Like actually I want to ask a question, what's the line that you crossed between working within like this system that exists. We all know that you just can't hop out here and just start moving. Like there are systems in place, whether they're five to one and threes and some fours, whether they're political systems, like so when folks are who are on the establishment side or leaning towards establishment side, like, what's the line that or I guess, what's the barometer that we use to measure if this person is for us against us? And I say that because you have some folks who are establishment as fuck. They they're wearing the suits, they're showing up at the DNC convention, they're in all the meetings. But if you go online and folks pull their workers, they're gonna automatically say they're not pushing black issues, they're cooning. And I guess, I guess what's the line. I don't know the line between me. You know me, I'm Danny. You know how it rock, you know what I'm moving for all that type of shit, and so if I'm moving with it, white spaces are moving within Democratic Party spaces, I know that you're gonna know that. Okay, Danny got black folks on his Black Danny's gonna you know, he's moving for something.

But Marcell may not know that.

Marcel may see me taking a picture with the Senator or county commission, like, think this nigga cooning. We got all this black shit we need to be doing, but he's standing here skinning and grinned with white folks. So my question to the group is what is that line that we walk or what's the barometer that we use to measure.

What's cooning and not protecting?

Black people, and what's actually like a nigga, like being in disguise and actually doing some stealth work behind the scenes to make sure we work through these organizations to get shit happening.

Well, I think that's subjective.

You know.

I don't think there's ever gonna be I don't believe in this idea that we're all going to have this barometer said. And you know, I know a lot of my Twitter friends. You know, y'all say on cold, but y'all pick cold based on what y'all say is cold. How you know my cold ain't different than your cold?

Are you?

Well?

The book said cold is this, and we say cold is that? I think everybody got their own cold? And how to What I want to know is fuck the talking. If you don't like how Danny rocking, then go to Danny's town like we did. I see Marcus is here, like we did in real life when we were working for Bernie Sanders, who y'all know, I checked Bernie Sanders all the time. But just to give y'all just a real quick example on how it really works, Danny, we didn't go when we joined the Bernie Sanders campaign in twenty fifteen. This is real life. When nobody knew who to hell Bernie Sanders was, and they dropped our ass off in cities and said, hey, you got two weeks to get an office going. We didn't drop down in a parachute run around talking about who coon and ain't gonna coon it. We had to go find the people that were willing to hear our message. And we had to do it in states where nobody knew who the hell this man was, where the Hillary Clinton basically had everything sold up. I'll used my exam. We were everywhere, but I spent a lot of time in Flint. I didn't go. I was the only black Stafford National Stafford that was on the ground. I did that on purpose, Marcus remembers, because some of our colleagues wanted to come with them to keep your ass right where yet, because I don't need nobody coming down and getting in my way. I went down. I took my ass to the beauty shops, to the barbershops for the hood. I met with those people. I sat there and listened to the establishment tell us that Bernie wasn't shit, and everything still for one shit and you organized at the local level. We organized with the unions, We had the meetings, we set there in the snow. We did the work. We weren't spending time trying to figure out who coon and who ain't coon. And that's online talk. So people can't be bothered by what somebody say online, because the challenge is always gonna come down to if you don't like it, then you move it. And in Michigan, I was very proud, even though I constantly am a critique of Bernie Sanders, I still was very proud to say that we flipped that state by two percent upset based upon organizing on the ground in the snow. So we were never online during that time when we were all advocating, we were never online. We wasn't tweeting about new streets, we wasn't posting about shit. We weren't doing any of that. We were getting it done. So you uh, And just so you guys don't know, Daddy was the organizer of the HBCU too. So when and we were so busy fighting people within our own campaign of trying to make sure black voices were heard, if we've had time to be arguing on people on Twitter. So I would just say, Danny that people shouldn't be bothered by what other people say. People just need to do the work. And if you're online and you say somebody ain't on cold or somebody's cooning, then guess what, run somebody against them? Are you a coon too? So that's how I said, that's the barometer. What action are you putting in the game? Telling somebody else down the street how they man should be treating you and not treating you. Doesn't matter that person's not listening to you because you don't have any power to put them in or put them out. Until you get power to put them in and put you out, they're not listening to you. In Orlando, Florida, when I show up, they show up. You know why they show up because they've seen me get thousands of people in the room. They know when I come to town and I ain't been there in five years, and when I show up, when I brought me in a turn into town, and y'all can disagree with whole bunch stuff need to turn and say that I don't like. But the bottom motherfucking line is when I went to her, lad know the maid was there, the city commission, and they got on the microphone and said, when the political footbull come to town, I show up because that's what they call me. You know why, because they know I know how to get people in that room. If you can't get five people at best to show up nowhere, there is no power. So what I would like to see with the online community is when is the people going to show up? That's where the power is. If they're not showing up, it's no power. It's talk. It's necessary. I support it, That's why I engage with the online activists. But at the end of the day, you ain't scaring nobody if you ain't showing up at the bus stop. So I don't think there is a barometer, and I don't give a damn what barometer they said, Danny, because you can't out hustle me, you can't outwork me. So if you're running a candidate against me, you better get ready to be on the goddamn ground because we knocking on every door, we turning over every stone, we going, we make it short and people get to the polls. And that's why the established have such a foothold because folks that are talking are not willing to put their resources, their time, and their money behind actually organizing on the ground at the local level. Councilman Hawkins, you've had your hand up for a minute, and Marcus, I want you to go next, because I know you definitely have something to say about organizing.

Absolutely one of the first all I want to say, thank you for allowing me to come up. So I'm a local elected official, some councilor in Brian Hawkins in Riverside County, which is like the fourth largest county in California, population of four million. My current assemblyman right now is a newly elected assemblyman. So the seat where my city is at doctor Corey Jackson. So if you look him up, he's a reparations matter of fact, I was just with him today because this is the conversation that we were having. So I don't have a state seat in my district where I'm at that I can run for, but I am putting candidates up because I helped him get elected in this recent election that just passed. And then the next district over District AB forty seven, I mean Assembly District forty seven, Jasmine Swain, she's a reparationist. So to go back to what the question earlier was, Yeah, I've been a registered Republican until December because hold.

On, wait a minute, Council and Hawkins, because I want to just pause right there. So right now, is anybody running because I know that was my question and you can get onto that. I want to know, is anybody running on the state level right now?

Not getting ready?

So in the next city, the next because my county has four Assembly districts and so I'm trying to take each seat in my in my county.

So I'm Assembly District sixty.

The next district over, which is the next three cities over, is Assembly District forty seven.

And Jasmine Swain is going to be running in that district.

Okay, so we said going to be running. Is she on the back?

I mean we have, I mean we have, we don't have the poor papers yet.

Okay. So this is what I'm not And I'm not saying this in a you know, disrespectful way, but I need my Twitter folks to understand. Do y'all see my point? And nothing against you see the find to do ain't good enough.

And I'm not talking about.

No we're talking about right now, Counselman. I'm not I'm not again, I'm not coming at you I'm just trying to show the people in the Twitter space that I keep talking to this about running in the last election, gonna run in the next finna do. The question still remains, who is running right now? Paperwork ready? And the answer is nobody. And I'm not saying what she's not gonna do. Please know I'm not coming at people that follow me know that I talk about this all the time. The answer still remains Marcel. So the answer is nobody right now. Nobody's paperwork because Marcell paperwork together. I'm asking who is running on the state California right now, California for a state assembly position that's gonna vote in all of these testimonies that people are sitting up here making these records about and remix tapes and talkalking about who up there speaking and who shouldn't be speaking and who bringing a flat Every day I'm seeing people putting in comments on under this task force. So my answer is who is running right now in the state on the state level, And the answer is nobody.

In terms of like even with that state lover in California, that's important and folks should be turning that stuff. But the state is going to go where when it comes down to distributing those funds, they're going to go to each local municipality and say, we need to come up with a plan for how we're going to do this in your city, in your town, in your municipality. So we still need those folks running for a city council person, county commissioner.

And all those positions on the local level.

Sure, and but again and again, councilor. I don't mean to interrupt you, but I just couldn't let that fly over, you know, since since Twitter space is at all about planes, nobody and I said this at the rally last year, where is the candidate that is running for the state Assembly for reparations that everybody is galvanized behind all these Twitter spaces, all of these organizations. I don't want to call no names because then y'all be tagging them in saying I'm talking about them, which I don't give a damn. But all of these organizations, these reparationist organizations, where is the candidate that people are getting behind? The answer is nowhere. So if no candidate is there to vote it in, what are we doing? All the books have been read, all the scholarship y'all got the scholarship down. Remember y'all told me I shouldn't have been at the rally, So I want to know the people that said I should have been at the rally. Where's the candidate that y'all pushing. I'm hearing a lot offend the dude thinking about where's the candidate because all of this testimony, y'all arguing over should have been this name or that name, or call it this or it should be freedom, it should be a y O asid, it should be the foundation of black mayor where's the candidate, y'all like real talk?

Where's the candidate?

Well, I've said to people, it can't just be one, two or even three. It has to be a team of us, and it has to be across all levels. That's what I don't where's the team?

But right now, everybody talking about the California Reparations task Force on a daily basis. Every time I open up this app somebody talking about what somebody said on the task force, what they shouldn't be saying on the task Force. I'm gonna run this person down on the task For this person that where's the cat? Let's talk about California let's not talk about every level in every state, where's the California person. See when you get to that question, that questions can never seem to be answered. Now, Marcel, who in California is running? Remember I'm not the reparationist, so I don't have a right according to y'all soul reparationists, where is the California person running on the state level that's gonna vote in all this testimony that y'all arguing about on a daily.

Basis, are they're running somebody down on Twitter? Anythinking that's gonna helpful? It's not.

Oh okay, then, so there we go.

So there it is.

And I don't mean to interrupt your counsel, but but I had to keep the main thing the main thing. And I appreciate I remember having you before, and I appreciate them you about you getting ready talk about being Republican this and that, and I appreciate that. But I'm trying to get people to keep the main thing the main thing. And the bottom line is there's not a candidate for California right now on the state level. That's the bottom line. And I'm just trying to say that as respectful as I can and nothing against you, brother, and I love to have you up anytime, and you know you've been up before. But I get tired of these conversations getting lost. Imagine if all of these Twitter spaces and all of the new Black media and all of the folks that y'all follow, all of that, what if they got behind one You don't have one person that you can talk to that can vote this shit in. Not one person. It ain't come alla more either, she's the task force chair. None of them can vote this inn that they're they're submitting recommendations, recommendations, ain't voting the damn thing in. Who's gonna vote it in? The answer is you have nobody? So come on, scholars, y'all not scholaring? Where where's the scholars at? Where's the candidates at? I'm gonna keep challenging y'all because I want y'all to know, like, what, come on, what's happening? Where's the where's the candidate at? If y'all not talking me? No candidate this submitting these comments don't mean shit. They're just comments. There's no different than talking about it on Twitter. You still need to do it, But who's.

Gonna vote it? In you don't have nobody to vote in.

But y'all talking about what Memphis where Tennessee need to be doing, and what's so and so need to be doing over here. So so your main issue is reparations. And right now you got reparations on the table in California, not mandamn candidate that can that can push.

It for you.

So you gotta help me make it. I don't that don't make no sense to me. Marcelle help me? You ain't you you the spokesperson, So what helped me? It ain't making sense? Am I missing something?

I know people are talking about running and like you said, you're asking for who's actually doing it now? And I don't know. I just know people want to talk to.

Talking too late because they're talking about it right now. The task force is already talking about it. The recommendations are going to be done in the summer, in the next couple of months, so talking about it. By the time they get done talking about it, the recommendation is already gonna be on the elected people's position of table.

And well, you know, I've been being in this drum too about how we need to run for office. Even if we run for office and lose, And of course I'm not saying I want us to love it even if we were involved us and lose.

And still that's whatok.

Bernie Sanders, I mean, he's lost his run for presidency even though he is an elected office holder, but his the platform is now almost the platform on which Democrats have to run. So I've been telling people just even value and running for office if you do nothing else but push your in that platform that's built.

Of course, it is people who say that don't know what they're talking. Of course it is. It's called being a formidable opponent. When you are a formative opponent, that means you make people run to your issue, and then you take the five hundred people that did show up for you, and you continue to organize with those five hundred. Marcus, for some reason, you fell off as a speaker. I had you as a speaker center request back up. It's not you. You can run and get five hundred people to support you. Then I ask, well, what are you gonna do with those five hundred? After you're gonna start a packer? You're gonna keep organizing a lot of candidates. They get so tired and they just say forget it. I don't want to do anything ever else again. And then they stop, you know, they stop organizing. You have to continue organizing with the five hundred, and you show up at the means and you continue to make your voice heard. So you're absolutely right, you can absolutely run to lose. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just think that it needs to be closer to the dollar, which means a little bit closer to power, which means on the state level and the local level, because you have a better chance of having more influence and more power because of two hundred and fifty people vote for you. That person probably only won with fifteen hundred votes, So who has more power? You got more power there than you would on a congressional seat. And I don't know why everybody want to go straight to Congress and straight to president of the United States. How about we wear about some of these city and local states. City right now, state right now, All the reparation is right now, all the rallies that were done last year. Where is the California candidate right now? And the answer is nowhere? Because I've asked several times and I keep getting the answer. It keeps being no one, So you got the smartest people in the room, and the smartest people in the room, I need you to know that you need a candidate. And I'm sure people are lobbying current elected officials. I don't doubt that at all, because I don't know what everybody's doing. I don't want to say that nobody's doing anything. I hope that. I'm sure somebody is lobbying the current elected officials. But what I'm talking about is who are you running in California to actually be your person? Not what we finna do and gonna do and getting the paperwork together and she says she was gonna do it and she about to do it. Who's doing it? And the answer is nobody.

Well, this is what we need twenty for our marath on Twitter spaces about this is what I've always said, this is what people need to holder spaces about who we're gonna run, how we gonna support them. Let's do fundraising drives, Let's get people to knock on doors and get people to make phone calls. And let me be honest. You know people have supported me, and you know people support me. The thing is, especially because we run for federal office, you can never have too much support. But these are the things because people stay in these Twitter spaces. I'm a Twitter space a lot, but some stay in Twitter spaces twenty four seven like, seriously, don't matter when I go to bed or when I wake up, I see some of the same people on Twitter spaces and they're very active. These are the things of which we need to be focusing enough talking about the problems circle jerking and trauma bonding. We know how bad we're treat it, like people like to tag me in tweaked about the latest tragedy that doesn't happen to our people. And my attitude is I'm no longer focusing on trying to put out every individual fire. We need to focus on systemic issues and running for off business where you get to address the cymmics to the systemic issues municipal level, the state level, the county level, and the federal level. And like you said, really it does start on the local level. That's what I'm doing now. I'm being way more visible I'm doing I'm putting myself out there like I've never had before. I'm talking to people in grocery stores who know me, but they don't know me as a person running the office. And it's really weird when they see me as their classroom teacher that talked them when they were young, and now they're seeing me as a person asking for the vote. It's just weird and I don't necessarily like it, but God knows, I've been doing it. I've been going through the HBCU campuses. I've been going to these festivals. Anybody who knows me knows I've always been a very low key person. So this but this is what I need. More people out there with me, and don't get wrong tabs and like you said, people are talking about I have a lot of people company thinking about it, but we need to do it. And where all the energy with the stammina people have in these Twitter spaces to talk and focus on something that long you can be making phone calls around the car and I'm gonna be starting my phone baking soon. I had to get the money up and gets I'm trying to get somebody to manage it. But I'm gonna need these Twitter space math star runners. They're really you that are making phone calls for me. But these are the things need to be talking about. Who are we gonna run to get the power because at the end of the day, we talk about how messed up things are, and we look most any of us in here, I'm sure most of us in this Twitter space.

We can beat a lot of these people.

In office right now with logic, but at the end of the day, when the legislation comes to them, we are going to be at their mercy, whether they vote for it or not. That's not a position I want to be in at other people's mercy. That's why I just not to run. I said, I'll be damned if I'm begging them, and like you said, don't beg them, replace them. But that was my attitude, and that's the reason why I ran. Actually, yeah, back in twenty twenty twenty one, why signe the money? That's the only way, you know.

And there's a question here at the bottom, saying, you know, how can we you know, how do we Let's see, I have two legitimate questions. How effective it is running on a black platform if you're in the district with less than fifteen percent black electric how can you expect election fairness integrity when Democrats had cheated in the past. Again, run run, y'all spend too much time worrying about well, how can I do this or they gonna do this? And how get your ass out there and run. You're gonna run for office or run your mouth.

Period.

And like we explained earlier, it's not about fifteen percent of the electric It's not about population size. It's not about how many people don't vote. When you get you a field manager, shout out to Dan if you want one, one of the best is in the building, your field manager. Is about getting your win number. It's not about how many I hear that a lot? You know, well, black people only fifteen percent. Who gives a damn you When you run for a local seat, It's about the win number. It's about, hey, I only need four hundred and fifty people to get to the polls. You find four hundred and fifty people to get to the polls. It's not about the overall how many black people in the population. That's why Eric mays again, who'll be sitting up there talking all that shit. I don't know nobody to talk more cash shit than Eric Maids counseling Eric Maids, who has been elected over a decade talking cash shit to white people. And guess what he does not just represent black people. He's able to do it because he knows his win number, he knows how to get his assentee ballots. In Florida, we heavy on assent ballots. Before you even show up at the post, we know who won every candidate I've ever run. If you ain't doing AS and T balance, you're running to lose. I got a heavy ass ascent T ballot game before you even show up on election data, we didn't already beat you. And this is before Corona, before they was using AS and T balance. There's a real strategy behind getting your win number. So if you don't understand win number, you don't understand you know how to do that, then you're always, you know, going to be behind. This is why my class was so important, because I'm trying to tell you the tricks of the trade. And it's not a matter of fifteen percent of the electric You can run on whatever genda you want to run on, as long as your people vote you in. You just have to find your people. See this is why. And I love what Marcel does because I think what he does is important because you educated a lot of people and a lot of people have respect for you. Marcel you as my candidate, you wouldn't be talking to these people as much as you do because I need I need you to be talking to the people that can actually put you in power. To me, I think what you do is very important. But y'all wouldn't be you. Y'all wouldn't be eating up my candid's time the way y'all do. Keep explaining over and over and over. No, y'all eat up far too much this time. And I know it makes a difference, and I know it helps the fundraising. But I've ran candidates with nothing and have won because they're able to get the people to the post. So if you were my candidate, I would have you running on a local state a local seat. I would have you working your way up to a Jim Clyburn, and I would have even if you were a local seat and you weren't in Congress, I'll be running you for state Rep. I'll be running you for city council because guess what, Jim Cliburn still got to listen to the state council. He still got to listen to the city council all of in order for them. You are, you would have a part of his district that determines what he does with his money. So there are many other ways besides you know, I understand that stuff. Rod set the head, but there's many other ways, you know, to have power, to have influence within these systems that already exist. That doesn't mean that I don't think what you're doing is not important, because it is.

It really is.

But I need I need somebody to understand the local and the state level and how that power is leveraged. No US Congressmen when they go go around and do their Eastern you know, go around, you know how they come around once a year pretend like they're involved in the in the city. They have to call their city commissioner to decide, Hey, can I show up at first Baptist Church on Sunday because I don't want to get embarrassed. It's the city council and the county council and the state reps that hold the nuts of the federal elected folks. Trust me, it wasn't nothing we could do in some cities without getting the blessing of that mayor or that city council or that state rep. Perfect example in Flint, the current mayor, Sheldon. I think Sheldon is still in office at the time when I was organizing for Bernie Sanders in Flint. Sheldon was a state rep at the time. He was the only one supporting Bernie Sanders. The mayor at the time was supporting Hillary Clinton. She hadn't dropped foot in Flint. So I went and organized all the hood, everybody who wasn't given a damn you know by Hillary Clinton, all the people that she forgot. Set up Bernie Sanders to come in and hug probably the first black person you'd ever hugged Devi in his damn life. They got a picture of that, took that photo took it made campaign videos all across the state showing Bernie Sanders hugging Danielle Green. Guess what, marcell Danielle Green at the time was not an elected official. Guess what, she became an elected official in the school board. Bernie Sanders don't even know it because he ain't been back since. Guests who still talked to Danielle Green me because once you get those relationships, you continue to build those relationships. That's how no ered Mays and all of that. So you people that start on the ground and started organizing, they then become elected officials. Guess what Sheldon was at the time, the only representative that was supported Bernie Sanders. Guess what he became the Flint mayor. The mayor that once was against Bernie Sanders is now the mayor that was supported Bernie Sanders. Guests who don't get no love for it though, Bernie Sanders, and I'm gonna make damn sure you don't, because Sheldon ain't heard from your sinse. That's how it works in real time. Getting when you get people on the local level, they bump up and they go to other positions. They have other power. They have power that you didn't think they had. At one point in twenty sixteen, Dan Yelle was just the person you gave a hug too. Now she's on the school board. If people are not thinking that way, on the power of those positions you build it. You don't go straight to the top. You have to start, like anything else, at the bottom. And it's not discouraged because there has been people that won like the young brother or not brother, real ain't no brother but Frost in Florida, first time ever congressional candidate. But I'll tell you the only reason why he ran is because six six black people split the vote in Florida. Three of them were my friends. He won't win the second damn time. He better watch his back. So yes, first time Cannadys can win. But the power it starts at the at the local level, and if people are not doing that, then you're missing opportunities to have more leverage with Ajim Clydburn where he actually does have to listen, and he can do that by by a local seat, that's my opinion. But Marcel can continue to run for Congress because somebody got to do it. But the question comes down too, who's gonna do the local though. That's the part that I keep saying over and over. I guess that Annie got off. Now I don't know who's a troll and who's not a troll, So Marcel's gonna have to vouch for you, you know, no disrespect, but I don't know. I don't spend enough time in these Twitter spaces, Uh is it? Aliyah Arian.

Ahliah?

Let me just make you a co host because I don't know who's a troll patrol so and I'm not I don't in no respect to your Leah, because I just don't know. I don't I don't know like what troll and troll and not trolled. So I just added Marcel's a co host. We can continue the conversation. H are you Marcella. I want somebody to come up and try to tell you something so you can tell the men they are damn things.

I don't see any of leyah, but if you're talking about I want you to me is it a. I don't see any of me, but if I see her, I'll be able to tell you.

Okay, she just left. Once I said it was that you was in charge of the co host. She left, so maybe she.

Was covered from Marcela.

Is well, I made you the co host, so you can see who's who requested you want to continue the conversation or you know, it's up to you. What's tonight? Is it Friday or Saturday? Friday? Yeah, I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go to Happy Out a minute, but no, this was a great conversation guys, and again Danny and I'm so glad again shout out to everybody. Put the thumbs up you appreciate. I know y'all like chaos, but I really enjoyed hearing the conversation.

I feel good.

She's good.

I mean a few times I've heard us spoke, she's been good. And I see a few people I'm inviting them up right now and right I like people love dramatic triduce speech that when I'm in a space, people are like, oh my sell, I about to go off with somebody. And I tell people when I go to these events, and sometimes I have to be intentionally disruptive. I don't come there to disrupt, but when they're trying to ignore me, it's not about me. It's about who I'm representing. And like you said, I people will talk about the two thousand five hundred people that voted for me. Those are still two thousand five hundred people who need to have their voices heard. So if nothing else here is my district, I'm going to represent those two thousand five hundred people. But I'm also representing the many people I've met on the street who said that if they had known about me, they would have voted for me. So but if even if it was only two people, even if there was no person that voted for me, I'm still gonna speak up for my people, period. So some people, when I get into spaces, they think, oh what a myself won't say at a lot of times, I am not like that. A lot of times. I would much rather have a nice, level headed into really conversation. That's really how I prefer to move on.

To Marcelle Boy, marcell I'm gonna say this point like we've only had one exchange in DMS as far as talking behind the scenes on you know what's happening in the spaces, And I sent you one message and you can confirm this and screenshot it and post so folks know I'm not lying. I told you controversy is the mother of all progress. Folks like to run away from it, but when things become controversial, that's when shit starts to move. That's when you know, policy starts to get passed.

So I mean, I.

Don't want I don't know if I don't know how you took what I said earlier, but I want to make sure i'm busterous like what I'm saying with I support you.

I want you to keep doing what the hell you doing.

I appreciate you pushing the envelope all that type of stuff, and just know that controversy is the mother of all progress.

My brother, Well, then I should be in my way to president then, because according to everyone therab, every time I go through what these and this, Marcell like peill be knowing my name. I've ever seen these field before. I was in Savannah during an interview and some people stop traffic, Oh, Marcell, what you doing over here? I think I live here. I don't live in the Vanna, but I live in Ridgeland in South Carolina. But Sagana is like, I mean, go to now. So that's the case. I steeled my way to the White House.

As an operatives bro, I'm gonna tell you, like you know, we look at all angles. We look at the field, we look at the political we also look at the optics. The optics that's working in your favor. Never take off that damn had that had. The folks should think that that ship is sold to your head, bro. And I'm gonna land I played right there.

Well, I don't know know about. All I know is and but guys, which I'll call it reset in the room, this space was about, you know, I wanted to remind folks, you know there was a exchange between Marcel and Tammy Sawyer. And you know, Danny and Tammy are both from Tennessee, and you know, Marcel was, you know, doing what Marcel does, which is you know, certainly challenged you know, any and everybody as he has the right to on their policy. And I wanted to host this room to remind people that even if you're not a fan of these two particular politicians, I'm not asking you to advocate for them. I'm not asking you to advocate for the Democrat Party. I'm not asking you to say that a black agenda should not be first. What I am reminding you is that the same thing that they did, which is yelling on a bullhorn, is the same thing that Marcel does that you guys support. And so all I'm saying is it is dangerous that anytime somebody yells on a bullhorn that they get expelled for not you know, because they're using their right to protest.

I do.

I think that it's a dangerous precedence. So I just wanted to give people, you know, the main thing, the main thing, and you certainly can challenge people if you feel you know, they should do better. It's not going to matter because you don't both demand so they don't have to listen to you. But you certainly can continue to challenge. But I just wanted people to know it is very dangerous. You know that that people can't that the voters had their representative removed very dangerous because that that has historically happened to us. So even if you don't see those two representatives as one of us, even though Danny and Tammy have said that they are, and again they have the right to their opinion. Somebody can say with Danny, I disagree with you. I don't think he rocking with black people. That's fine. Everybody got their own opinion. All I'm saying is I support people being able to make their voice heard, even if it's even if it's a policy I disagree with. So what's happening in Tennessee is not about policy. It's not about if you support gun bodies are not gun by. I'm two way. I'm a military person, so I stay strapped up, So it's not it's not about that.

For me.

It's about voters had their voice taken away, and that's dangerous. That's that's the main thing for me. You invited some people of ourselves, so I'm just RelA Hey, Marcel, hello, Tuesling. I think this was my first time on your stage. So this is my backup page.

I'm normally on my main page and I kind of let it go dormant since all of the action that happened with myself and I just needed a break.

I was one of his on his team. His team.

There was a bunch of us who actually supported his campaign and still support his campaign, you know, as it's moving.

I want to say that everything you said was so true.

From my first time actually going into the field and even on online, I realized there are two things that happen. There are people who have such a passion and a trauma that we want repair that we utilize our voices online, whether it's a I love your statement, the forty hour spaces and four our period. But at the same time that forty hours need to be cut in half and some of that time does need to be done on the groundwork, because what we found was that for the most of us, in shout out to the entire team network behind Marcel and still does support Marcel, there was not a lot of community engagement, and that was what we were struggling with, trying to get all hands connected to the community. And I think that's something that's happening everywhere, not just in South Carolina. I'm here in the state of Virginia. I made a decision to run for my particular state, but then found that there's so many different avenues into workings here that you have to develop additional networks. And also, I believe in the black majority state, so shout out to definitely black majority state rule, because we do need people in positions where we can we have authority, and if we can get that practice done as we figure out the numbers even to move or to capture authority, we need to do all the things. And I think Danny is right. There has to be a blending of efforts on online, but on the ground, in all avenues, and you cannot negate one for the other. Because we're looking for local and state candidates because we need someone like Marcel running for the federal level.

But when we lead someone that we need multiple people.

I remember we were actually also supporting and shout out to black political swingers. When I started out with Samantha, we were hosting several candidates that we just just I don't know how I fell in our laps, but we had the opportunity to support several candidates and introduce them to the space races in online, and Marcelle was won and it was like we were attacked from from all over because people are like who these niggas and who these people? Right, but they were people from communities that they wanted to support, and they were saying, I'm putting my life on the line, my family's life, and we are presenting ourselves attack from where online? Okay, they were attacked. They were attacked online.

So this is what I want to remind you, candidates. And again, if Marcelle was my candidate, he wouldn't be online, not even half of the time. Races are not one online, They're not no race that I and I've worked racis on the state, the local, and on the federal level. And I just want to remind you fundraising is done online. For sure, you can raise some money and maybe you can galvanize and maybe you guys can host some phone banks for some of these people, like we need Twitter space. They can make calls for you from anywhere, by the way, and they can take voters for you from anywhere, by the way. But this online ship, that's not how it works on the local level. This even having conversations online, it means nothing. It meaning no disrespect to the Gabe candidate that y'all.

Ran, but he that was my candidate. But I did support I did.

Supporting online. See this is what I want y'all know. See, supporting online is just like, oh baby, I'm sending you prayers and thoughts and prayers. The only way you can support the candidates by voting for that candidate in the booth. And if you can't vote that candidate in the booth, Gabe had more people in the Twitter space than he had show up at the polls. He raised more money than all of them and had less people show up at the polls. It's an example to show if that was my candidate, no disrespect for y'all supporting them. But it ain't no way in hell I would have had him in here explaining a damn thing to y'all. Not damning because now one of y'all, not now one of y'all could vote for him and people get these Twitter spaces. Chicago. I live like like like the like the Queen Glorella said, Internet troll satisfied Internet goals.

Y'all said, whatever.

Y'all want to say. If I say you don't know, you ain't no doctor. Shit, I am a doctor. You don't know what you're talking about. If I say you don't know, you ain't got the money, shit, you don't know. I got five minutes. People make up whatever they want to. Y'all got people sitting up for telling you I live in this district. You don't know that. You don't know if they live in the.

District or not.

They literally making ship up. Y'all had that candidate and again, I don't even want to me talking about this when I'm gonna go and talk about this. Well, sitting up here for hours and hours and hours getting vetted and getting ran down and having conversation with people that can't even But what it did was for the candidate, for the people that did not support Gabe. They gave him a damn good distraction. And because he was distracted, shout out to the people that helped distract him. He lost his race because he spent too much time talking to people on Twitter. And so the only thing you can do online is lose a race. You cannot win. Let me say it again, you cannot win a race online, but you can down show lose one. And how you lose one is you get distracted. You say crazy as shit that people can take and make whole commercials off of. I can show you plenty that I've done. You can do all types of shit that people can come against you by being online. But you will never win a race online. The only way you will win a race is by knocking at doors.

Period. That's it.

That's all. You can raise money online. You can lose a race online. You will never win a race online. So when you say a tax a tax from online, those aren't attacks. Those are distractions. When you knock on somebody's door and then they say, hey, you know what, I don't like your get out, that's a real attack. That's how you count it. You count the ones at the door. The rest of them a bunch of bullshit. I'm just giving it to you.

Honestly, ahead, I don't want to know, and I'm just gonna land here and I'm gonna say I and I understand what you're saying, but I'm just going to I'm just giving you in brief synopsis over things that happen over time. But that was early in the That was early and when we actually first and so after all that happened. You know, people leveled out, and I'm just I'm stating the fact that it's not that it wasn't warranted because people were going to do what people do. It was just the mere fact that we were able to get people out online and Marcelle was already running, and I think we just made the decision that we wanted to support people who wanted to run for office, and he was one of the candidates. We had Brandon Dean, we also supported to mayor Shilie Johnson, and then we were also doing stuff behind the scenes.

So we're not We're not just.

Let me ask you this, let me ask you this. And again I'm not using this to challenge. I'm just trying to you know, I don't take it that at all. So when we say support, how many were sent on the ground to knock on doors for those candidates that you mentioned?

And that's why I was going to say Rella actually came down in the South Carolina, But she was one a few.

So let's so let's so let's recept this right quick. He was one a few. So what I'm saying is if people want to support, it has to be on the ground. And if people can't come down things you said then. But what I'm trying to say is, I don't know if somebody ask me, yeah, what I'm what I'm trying to say, and I'm not trying to diminish that, but I do want people to understand because what I see in these Twitter spaces, a lot of people think and they have a lot of powerful things that they don't and some people that can't run their household get in this Twitter space and all of a sudden think they got some type of power. And so I just want to reset. For the candidates that actually want to run, I want you to know that a lot of these people in these Twitter space have power that they do not have. And you spend so much time trying to educate and convince people because they can't run their man, and they can't run their kids, and they can't run they women, and don't nobody on their job listen to they ask. So they get on these Twitter spaces and be talking about what they better do and what somebody better do, and I'm going to hit the new button and all of it, and they come up with some mystery power that they don't have. And it's although I appreciate the arts, mens, and I appreciate the debates. What I'm trying to say is, if you are a candid, because I'm speaking to the candidate, your power lies in your voters. And people on twitters are not your voters, So your power is in the voter. So if you are spending more time talking to somebody else's man or how they should be sleeping with they man, and not your own man in your own house, I'm saying that your time is disproportionate into what's going to actually get you elected. That's just a fact. And so fundraising online and you know, hey, we support you, support you, support you. You can say you support me all day long. But if that's not turning into your favorite words tangible like phone banking or donating or showing up. I know everybody can't relokay and go down North Carolina, South Carolina.

I get that.

But you can get on a phone bank and you can call voters. You can raise the money to get a voter's list and call and say hey, can you me Marcel and come volunteer on Saturday because he's going to be knocking doors. I've done that with Canada's plenty of times, so the same time it's spent on it. I'm just trying to show you what support looks like. And sometimes people think retweeting is a support or c like, is it support? Are you telling Marcel that's not supporting a candidate. There's three ways to support a candidate, phone or money.

Hey, Tis, I just want to I just want to make two points, real quick, real quick, on the point about actually getting on the ground and helping folks organize. Like, and I guess I'm gonna direct this to Marcel. I don't know what you're doing. You know, in your shop. You know, I'm not in your business all that type stuff. But if I ask you how many voter IDs do you have right now, would you be able to tell me yes, okay, and and and that's exactly what you do. And that's exactly what you need to be doing, bro, like getting voter IDs, getting as you knock on doors, you're getting people that actually say I'm going to support you.

But that's not the end all, be all.

The next part of that is actually turn those people out, which is actually the part that takes.

The hard part.

That's the hard part.

I'm gonna get to the other hands rout. So I don't want to be label at this point by me saying one. I love of my reparationist family, and I met a lot of you'll online, met Tesla and all of them online. If it wasn't for Twitter, I would not a lot of you who I've actually met in real life.

Well A, Marshall, I just had one more point I wanted to make before you get into it, and I'm gonna let you have it.

And then then my second point I want to make it is Twitter.

Is a tool.

YouTube is a tool. Yeah, so Twitter is a tool. Facebook is a tool. All these social TikTok is a tool that we use to amplify what's already happening on the ground. What I'm seeing now, especially within the Black Reparation space, within the Black Agenda space, is that we're putting all our effort and stock into the social media aspects of like organizing. Like as Testanta said, digital organizing is important. But if you don't have your base, if you don't have your foundation, your screaming into the ozarc. I mean you usually just screaming into the ether. You're just you know, throwing money into the ether. So I need everybody that's in this space right now to know that Twitter is not the beginning of your organizing stuff. Twitter should not be the beginning of how you organize. Your organizing should be based and founded in the ground, the people, the streets, door to door, real people. And then the third point I want to make is these people are old. The folks you deal with on Twitter, they're between the ages. I mean, they're all over the spectrum, but they're mainly between the ages of about twenty five and maybe forty five as far as the folks that you're dealing with. But once you step into like the precinct captains, when you go into the precinct captains of your neighborhood, that lady sixty seven, that lady seventy five, she's been doing it for the last twenty to thirty years. And if you can't build a relationship with her or him, you're not going to be successful. So Twitter is a tool. It is not the beginning of your organizing, you know, journey, career, all that good stuff. It is to amplify what you're doing on the ground. You go and meet and talk to voters, You hear stories from voters, You tweet that out folks seeing them like Damn Marcel doing some real shit on the ground is based in real people. When you come to Twitter, when you come to YouTube and these social media spaces, and that's where all of your organizer and it's just like confound it just screaming into the void. So I'm done. I'm done.

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