The Donald Trump rally held on October 27th, 2024 at Madison Square Gardens has received national backlash due to racist comments about Black Americans, Palestines and Puerto Ricans and more!
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What's havingybody? Straight shot? No chaser? What Teslam? Figure out? Jade Heral is joining me. The beautiful j Well, you can't see her because we're audio only, but just trust me, she's beautiful. If not, you know, you can certainly look her up. Lo Ja, how are you? I'm well, tessked, how are you doing? Gorgeous? Thank you? I'm doing fine. Uh. You know, people are ready to wrap this selection up, you know, I I know it's exhausting the people, Jade, I get it, especially people who are not, you know, in politics. Every day to me is a just another day, honestly, because I talk about politics year around, I pay attention year around. But I've actually been you know, it's been very fascinating to watch people have to, you know, change their positions after Biden and Harris got on and folks who are standing on business no longer standing on business, you know, talking around certain things. It's been very interesting watching the amount of spin that people have, the creative spin that people have had to use, whether it be supporting Harris or Trump, you know, black Trumpers, you know, coming up with all types of excuses on you know, well it doesn't matter what he say is about the economy, you know, just it's just been very interesting. And I know, if we had to go another two or three months, people would really it would really show people would really have to show them sooth who they are. And so one of the things I've been saying it, but I don't know people been, you know, paying attention. It's Trump Rally that happened. It's not as if we haven't heard these things before forward the Trump rally. It's not as if we haven't heard racist tropes. It's not like, you know, this is something new or unexpected. It's been a lot of fallout, you know about the comments made about Puerto Rico. Oh yeah, been a lot of comments, you know, a lot of a lot of fallout comments made about the black guy, you know, and the old we carved watermelon together. And I kind of want to focus on that today, and I just want people to know. You know, people are making excuge older. You know Trump didn't say that, or he didn't know that was going to be said. I've worked on president's campaigns, Jade. You are not getting on any stage at any rally, at any time for a presidential campaign, Democrat or Republican without being heavily vetted. They know, they knew the comedian's dark humor, they knew who he was, they knew what he was going to say. I can say nine times out of ten the speech was given ahead of time. It definitely got put in a teleprompter because at a ten it was given ahead of time. They want to know everything you're gonna say, which is from my understanding, they did catch. They said they didn't catch everything he was gonna say, but they did catch. They were gonna call uh, they found it where they were gonna call BP Harri it's a cunt, and they said yeah, they said they had to take that out. So if they found that, then they found the others. So I don't want to play a game about oh he didn't know, you know, I didn't know what it was. JD. Van's Oh, you know, people just need to stop being so sensitive. You know, stand on business. If that's how you feel, and that's what it is, stand on business, and I believe that's basically what they're doing. They're telling you that this is how they feel, and Trump is having other people do the dirty work. If you will, you know, to be able to pass it off on where you know, that's just comedy. But to do this, and the comedian's name is Tony Hinchcliffe. To do this and at the time of the around it was less than a week out or a little bit over a week out, makes no sense other than an attempt to motivate racist Definitely. I don't know no other other way to say it.
I agree, Yeah, I believe that it was definitely to motivate racists to say, hey, we're still on the same page. Although the Republican Party has been pandering to the black votes, right, we always hear the word pandering as it pertains to voter pandering, the Democrats pandering to the black community. Well, they have been pandering to black folks in my opinion, and with so many more black people supporting Trump advanced this election.
Cycle, I agree with you.
I think that that was an attempt to because it just wasn't one comedian that made racist comment back to back during Yeah, during the Madison Square Garden rally, it was definitely back to back. There were multiple bigoted comments that were made, and I believe that they did that in an attempt to say, hey, you know what, once we get in office, we're still on the same page. This is the party of or this is this is the administration or going to be the administration that is going to be very white supremacists friendly.
And they don't come out and say that.
They would never come out and say they'll use that terminology, but that's exactly what it is, and that's just their whistle blowing to their base.
I think more than friendly, bottom line white supremacists, you know, not the white supremacists. I know what you mean when you say friendly, but it's way, you know, deep it in that Rudy Giuliali. Giuliani also made some comments as well about you know, how America belongs to Americans only, and you know, they were just flat out and you know, I get it. I get people's problem with you know, my migration, immigration, I get all of that, but this was beyond the pale. This was beyond you know, I just don't like the way things you know, are going. You know, this was pretty deep. He talked about Palestinians as well, made some comments about them. Uh it says that actually actually said the Palestinians are taught to kill us at two years old, he said, And I don't want people basically, I don't want people who were who were caught to kill me at two years old in the country. Obviously that's not all. Every Palestinian was not taught to kill it at two years old. Yeah, that's wild.
And the fact that they did this in New York City, where it's just so it's just I mean, clearly it's a big liberal city, right, and it's it's a blue state. However, there's so many internationals in New York.
And yeah, he wanted to do it the same way. He went to NABJ National Black but those are know National Black Journanysociation showed up in ABJ and said, I don't think she's black, right, I'm lying. He's saying it directly to the fate. No confusion, like not saying it in a corner, not saying it. You know, they'd be like, oh, say that in New York. Yeah, I'm saying it in New York. I'm saying right directly up with a high Puerto Rican population, with a high immigrant population. Yes, I'm saying, and it ain't damn thing y'all can do about it. And I'm gonna fill up the arena and say it definitely.
And then also we learned that the Senator of Puerto Rico, a senator of Puerto Rico, actually endorsed Trump days after that Madison Square Garden performance. I would just call it a performance. I mean, it was a riley, but it was there was definitely a performance. They were definitely performing out there. But then also Trump and them are distancing themselves from this comedian and from some of these comments, Oh, we didn't know he was gonna say that or whatever. But it's just it's just not it's not confusing. It's just so hypocritical, and it's just so insidious the way that they will latantly say it to their faces, right like they were making these comments at this valley to dog whistle to their their white supremacists followers, but then turn around and try to distance themselves from them. Oh, I didn't know he was gonna say that. I don't because it's just a game.
I mean that, Like I said, they're just saying that just so people can have something to be Oh he said, he didn't say it, but everybody knows. First of all, like you said, it was several people that said that Rudy Giuliani was up there talking crazy. Grant Cardon was also a speaker that called Mark you mc simp said that BP Harris has pimp handlers. I mean again, the comment about the black people eating watermelon, the comment about Puerto Rico, you know, being an Eyeland trash. I mean, it was back to back to back, and it was more than one speaker, So knock it off with the we didn't know, And again the tone is always like this, you know. So it's just so that's just kind of they just playing in our face at this point, you know. And like people say, I've watched people, I've watched some Puerto Ricans, Dave As I said, are you still voting for Trump?
Yeah?
I am, because I'm I think he's I think the policies better under him, So you know, we'll see. It's definitly not gonna mold a needle on people who support Trump. I just don't think so Jade. I think people who are locked in on him or locked in on him and they don't give it that what he says. He was very clear and said he can go on Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody. People will still rock with him. And he's proven that to be right. He definitely has proven not to be right.
And he said that years ago, and his base and his support has only magnified or multiplied.
Now.
Some of the other are things that Trump said at this Madison Square guard and rally. He argued that Americans are worse off under Biden, under the Biden Harris administration, and you know he's continued to say that now.
He said, what did Trump say?
He said, one day, I will launch the largest deportation program in American history.
That's what he said.
He said he will rescue every city in town that has been invaded and conquered. So he continued to call VP Harris a quote very low iq individual end quote, and he drew cheers from supporters or his toughn on migrants rhetoric. So that was a pervasive, prevalent theme throughout that Medisine Square Garden rally. So this was really really interesting because they even had former pro wrestler Hawk Hogan. There also you did mention former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has been under fire a lot. He's lost quite a lot of money. I know, he's fouled bankruptcy. He tried to liquidate his assets so he wouldn't have to pay two black women that he falsely accused of Was it election interference at the polls?
Those were POE workers.
And so we also know that Trump's sons Eric and Don Junior also spoke. So according to Ruters, not only was their racist rhetoric right, but they rot is. In their coverage of this, they highlighted the misogynistic language that was also present in the warm up, like warming up the crowd before before Trump came on. So there was just all types of bigotry, all types of isms with these speakers. And listen, it's not really going to stop people from voting for Trump. One thing that you've been saying this entire election cycle, Tas is that Trump has solidified his base, like people are very very clear, like that they are rocking with him. And it doesn't seem that, I mean, in my experience, any of the things that have happened during this particular election has really swayed people who were staunched Trump supporters to say, you know what, maybe this has gone too far. I don't support him anymore. I have just really really seen stories, articles, and like the data that more and more that his base is just getting bigger and people aren't dropping out, They're just really joining the Trump train. It's really surprising about the amount of black people that did not support him last time that are actually supporting him because they are saying, you know, that America would be safer under him, and they believe that Trump is better for business and that he would just be a better president.
This is gonna be interesting. You know. They always talk about the October surprise, and maybe they gave themselves their own October surprise, you know, with this. I do think I do not think it's going to change how voters feel about Trump, but I do think it can make a possible for those who just were not motivated to vote at all, not motivated because they're angry, not motivated because because people who were saying I'm going with the couch, I'm protest voting, those people are going to stay the same. I do think it can make a difference from those who just said, oh whatever, no big deal, who may say, you know what, I don't know if I want another four years of that. And when I'm talking about make the difference, we're talking about twenty thousand in Wisconsin that you need. We're talking about ten thousand in Michigan. We're talking about fifteen thousand in Georgia. So very small numbers, Jade, But you only need small numbers to go one or the other. You don't need a massive switch, a massive you know now Trump people are falling off, or a massive you know, you just need a few more Democrats who are already registered as Democrats, who are who just kind of got out of the decided to opt out of the process. But but they're not opting out because they're angry, but just needed a little bit of something to decide, not that they didn't know who Trump was or how he feels or any of those things, but needed just a little to something say do I really want to hear this on TV for the next four years. I think, if anything, it might make a difference with those individuals. But at this point, voters who are engaged in the process and who were like, no, I'm I'm I am a super voter, and I'm engaged. Their mind to me is made up, and you're either with Trump or you're not. In my opinion, yes, and working with you says and being mentored by you.
I've learned so much about win numbers and who's actually counted and whose votes are being counted on whose votes aren't. So for example, I don't know if a lot of people know this. Puerto Ricans, they're US citizens, but they on the island, if they're a resident of the island Puerto Rico, they cannot even vote in US general elections anyway, So it really doesn't matter. I mean, you know, according to the Trump like, they don't really care, you know, in terms of insulting an entire island of people. They don't even vote. They're not even included in the win number. And a lot of folks on the are talking about you talking about the Electoral College. No, I'm talking about the average voter, like the average Puerto Rican citizen, like a person who lives on the island of Puerto Rico. They can't vote in US elections on the island, but there are a large number of Puerto Ricans that have moved on to mainland America and they live, you know, in one of.
The field like New York. Yeah, just so we're clear, y'all understand what you're saying, But it does matter. I mean, I know what you're saying, But Pennsylvania has the third largest Puerto Rican population in the country. Yes, and so when you look at it, even though it's a bunch of Puerto Ricans in Florida, it's a bunch of Puerto Ricans in New York. But when you talk about Puerto Ricans being the like, I know what you're saying with the island, but you know, Puerto Ricos, Puerto Ricans is still Puerto Ricans. And so when you talk about the third highest population, particularly in a swing state like a Pennsylvania, that's where you where the hit may be felt, if not definitely for sure. And also people have to make the distinction because again, just because his Spanish descent doesn't mean that Cubans feel the same way in Florida, who vote heavily conservative. It doesn't mean that his Spanish Latinos will feel the same way in Arizona, Nevada, who immigration is a real problem for them. So it's the and by law, it's spanned by the way that the population period is fifty to fifty, you know. And we saw the Puerto Rican you know, when he was throwing the towels and all that. So this is not the first time, you know that that demographic has been insulted, you know, and people are still rolled with Trump. But you know, like I said, it's going to be interesting. I just want to just spend a couple of minutes for those who are saying, you know, and when I say those, I mean jd Vance, the Vice president candidate, came out and said, you know, what's the big deal, It's just a joke. You know, we need to stop being so sensitive. Well yeah, you can say that when people are not joking about you, But then when people are joking about why people really matter, Because you guys have the most power, so people can joke all day long you're still in power. But when oppressed people are getting joked about, that's a totally different thing. And I just want to speak to the black joke that a lot of people, you know, I don't want to say a lot of people, but I just want to make sure that we're clear about what that means. And what their stereotype means. And it was not just oh yeah, he just picked some random fruit. When we look at the watermelon stereotype, that racist trope has been in play jay since the eighteen sixties. After the Civil War several areas of the South, former slaves grew watermelon on their own land as cash crop to sell. So it was it was although Charlemagne has talked about this Sottle Brothers Club before that it was a symbol of liberation and self reliance. It was a positive thing. But that is not how it's been displayed in American culture. It has always been you know, these character chricature pictures of you know, eating a big piece of watermelon, you know, with the big lips and the big smile and all that. So so the watermelon has not been a positive image, you know in this country. Almost animalistic is what they would call it. Uh. In the early nineteen hundreds, postcards depicted of African Americans as an animalistic creatures, saying happy to do nothing but eat watermelon. So it was it was about you know, dehumanizing them and taking what they were, you know, what was a symbol of freedom and turning that into a joke. Absolutely are black Black.
The newly emancipated Black Americans made so much money off of growing watermelon because it grows fast. And also watermelon seats are cheap, or they were cheap, and their primary customers were white folks, and so in order to kind of cifle that particular economy, you know, in that product, you see all of those menstrual caricatures that you're referring to come out to really denegrate it. So then white folks are like, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna buy watermelon.
That's nigga fruit.
You know.
So it's just really really really disgusting.
And people are standing on this, you know, they're standing on what's the big deal this isn't you know? People are you know, you guys are too sensitive. But it's definitely again another dog whistle to the racist base of voters within that on that side of that, Maga can m.
You know, some people are saying, you know, I like, my race is loud, loud and proud, and I want to know, you know, how they feel, Okay, and that's fine. And also you know, people, I know there's this talk, you know, Trump didn't do anything the first time, didn't do anything the first time him what he did the first time, I just don't believe, Jade, is the second time the second time is a different situation. It's a man that's been convicted the third two feelings, that has told you he's going in to do retribution, including going after the media. So I can't look at what he did the first time and compare it because the situation is not the same. And so you know, again, if you are just a stop just completely against all Democrat policies, and I'm talking about a black person, if you are completely against all Democrat policies and everything about Democrat policies, just bug you. I still don't know how you can be a proponent for Trump though, you know, and what he's trying to do. And again, I get it, Jade, I don't get it. I understand why you don't get it. No, Well, what I get is I can understand how people's frustration of the lesser too evil. If people feel, you know, like I'm frustrated with how they've been handling things on the ground. You know, I am big on spending money in areas that people, you know, to get new voters into the fold. That's what Trump has done. He has strategically went after I'm literally and reading any articles, went after folks who are normally not not a part of the process. Those twenty thirty thousand make a difference. It's something that I've been saying dim should work on. Uh, you know, year over year, forever, give, give give. Democrats have had an opportunity to come buy your votes as well. You know. Uh, when we look at Harry O, the founder of death Row, you know, introducing Trump at that Trump rally, when we could have done y'all could have departed some folks too, and they do, but they don't utilize those tools day. They look at it as, oh, we don't need those folks, we don't have talking, we don't have include street. We have to And so it's gonna be really interesting to see how that benefits Trump because when you're talking about peeling off or or depressing enough people to not vote ten twenty thousand, it makes a difference. So I can understand how people's not my method because I think you seidn't be concerned about who your sheriff is, who your school board is, who you're you know, it's not my method. Saying opt out of the process. But I what I'm saying is I know how people got there. Yeah, understand how they got there is in my way, no, but I definitely could understand how they you know, got there. Thank you for that.
You know, there's another the optics of that Madison Square Garden Trump rally, like Hillary Clinton accused him of re enacting a pro Nazi rally that was held at Madison Square Garden in nineteen thirty nine on the eve of two of World War Two. So a lot of people are saying that this was very, very symbolic, and they're relating into that. Trump did give a statement recently saying that hey, there there's a lot of love that was felt in this space. And yes, you know he's he's accusing you know, the wicked Democrats such as Hillary Clayton, of accusing him of being a pro Nazi or trying to reenact a pro Nazi Riley and Trump turned around and say, you know what, but so many other people have spoken at Madison Square Garden, but they didn't get as many people as I did. And you know, they're just jealous, they're just mad. So this is very, very very controversial. The optics of it looks very I mean, it's just the way that Trump has been idolized, like the lovel of idolatry here, you know, in this election is really interesting.
I've never seen anything like this before. What about Trump? He's been like, no, just it's just I'm like, this has been like this the whole time. Nah, It's just I think it's just gotten worse. I think it's still been like it, but getting work where you say, never seen nothing like this, like what they they they've been with like this with Trump the whole time, Like what's really new? Nah?
I mean even for the black people who say that they're supporting him, they will ignore all of the things that you know, we've been talking about, you know, in this episode and you know, on on different.
But you don't they've been ignoring it.
The way did they go out of their way to reach to just go ahead and support this dude, not looking at his his you know, his police and policies, you know, things that will harm black society. I think that, like, I don't know, I think they're people are hypnotized on this.
You know, I guess I'm saying when we say haven't seen it, it's been like since he's been on the scene, it's been like this with him. I think maybe what you mean is that it's I don't want to say, progressively worse, because he's the same, Like he's literally he's always did this and people have always supported and they've always don't give damn what he say. They don't care about what like they this man has just a hell of a following. So I'm not surprised or shocked at all. Maybe you're just shocked still doing it, still doing it. Maybe you had higher hopes, I guess, because I don't know. When I when I see how people roll, that's how they roll, and they don't change when you standing on a bit like that's it. I this is not a like, oh my god, I've never seen it. He's been doing this in twenty fifteen. We're in twenty twenty four so we're going on ten years now. Yeah, what I look at, what was that? When year was that?
Did this start with? When year was the tea party? Was that twenty fourteen?
I can't remember what year it might have been before that, but he came on the scene just literally Trump you know, running in twenty sixteen, started in twenty fifteen, we're in twenty twenty four going to twenty twenty five. So this has been ten years of Trump, ten years.
Of Trump being Trump and being very very consistent in his antics. But also what I'm referring to is how like when he first came onto the scene, he was pantering, well, he was, you know, very committed to the Tea Party base.
In that group, a.
Lot of black folks, We're just looking at it like, oh my gosh, like that's not something that I would ever want to be a part of or affiliated with. Now I'm seeing more and more black folks they rock and Trump hass. They're talking about, yes, I'm voting for Trump, and Trump is going to be good for the black community, and still ignoring all of the other malignant, you know, anti black racist things.
That he does and he says.
But it's like, Yo, they're really on the Trump train, and to your point, they are committed.
So yeah, like I said, it's more he is not more than yes, more than what it was. But it's not that I haven't seen it before, you know. So it's like if it's raining outside, it's raining, but it's not a storm, but it's still rank you know, I'm saying for me to say, I've never seen this as this, this is new. It's very important that we're acknowledging that this has been going on and on. People need to understand this is not new, it's even going back to the beginning of the history of this country. Like it's very important because if we keep if we come from a position of shock value, oh my god, if it's like we really need people to no. No, If you have not you have literally been accepting this for ten years, there might be more. And a lot of that has been opportunities Jade, a lot of people who see an opportunity to come against the Democrat Party. It's more so not about Trump, but against the Democrat Party. Or there's now openings and availability for black spokespeople to now get a following. They seeing what it's done for a lot of black conservatives and how it's benefited them. And then some people just flat I say, I just don't rock with Democrats anymore. It is still old. Whelmingly more black people still vote, as far as voters are concerned, still vote for the Democrat Party. But what I'm saying is or I'm not really challenging you, but I just want to make sure that we're not operating from a position of shock when this man has literally had the same rhetoric and the same thing. I'm not even talking about the nineties Trump, the back of the day Trump. I'm simply talking about since he's been on the scene in twenty fifteen. First it was, well I just don't like Hillary Clinton. Now is you know, well I just don't like the Democratic whatever it's been. People have supported Trump and rock with Trump and his folks. Those numbers have not changed. You know, over these ten years, people being more vocal about it. Okay, I can certainly give that, but to act as if like what happened the other day is nothing new, That's why they felt so comfortable. They note this, this, this formula works. That's why they're doing more and more of it. When he remember when he said, let's tone down the rhetoric, you know, an assassination, everybody need tone down. They've turned it up. They turned it all the way out, all the way up. So I definitely am seeing the different the different volumes. You know, it's been at a ten or twelve or twenty hours or the other day was it wasn't no dog with So that was a screaming, straight up bullhorn arena loud as you can get statement. And people are actually taking action in the streets.
I know we talked a little bit about you and I talked a little bit about ballot boxes being set on fire. Yes, that is crazy in Washington State in Oregon, and I believe I heard it was it was a third state. I almost want to say Arizona, but I have to. I'm gonna look that up right quick. But yeah, people are burning up ballot boxes and now the fans are trying to figure out who is committing these this art thing.
That's crazy, and people are saying I saw some of the comments or one of the officials was saying, you know, we knew we were gonna expect certain things. So now I'm wondering how they bringing those ballot box places back in, Like, what are they doing? They're just gonna let them just sit out there. How do they determine whose VOTs was in there? Who dropped it off? Do they get a chance to vote again? Girl, this is a mess. It is a mess.
And then also black voters turn out in Louisiana is down by twenty six percent.
It want to turn out. Yes, black voters.
Turn out, and Louisiana is down by over twenty six percent. And our brother Gary Chambers has been reporting on this. He said that in twenty twenty, over two hundred and ninety thousand black voters showed up to vote early, and he said they're currently averaging twenty thousand votes a day, which means that louis the black voters and you know in Louisiana they need seventy eight thousand Black people to vote early in order to change this.
So this is being older depression or people just want to get out of regardless of what they're hearing. That's what I was saying that if this rally did anything, maybe it'll take some folks out who typically vote before, but it just over it. Maybe it can make a difference. It's not going to change Trump's numbers. Certainly not gonna make people say, oh, you know what, I was wrolling with Trump, but now never mind because he's made his position very clear. But you know, you have to ask why look at the poverty rate. You know in Louisiana when people have totally just tapped out and they're struggling jade, they don't see government as a fix.
Right.
So that's why when I say I see how people get to that, you know everybody's not going to, you know, say, this is a long play game. You know, this is where I have to continue to keep fight when people are struggling at they're lad and they literally have nothing, and they're like, what's them? That's what my concern is with Michigan. As you know, I keep saying over and over, depending on Detroit Detroit, thirty three percent of people in Detroit live below the Michigan poverty line. So you're expecting them to be soay, oh yeah, let me go voter, it's gonna make it different. They've seen time and time again where it hasn't made a difference, at least to them. Sure is there a difference when you peel stuff back and say, you know, hey, this funding that came from this or that, and that's what made that school better, or that is it you know what put those officers on the ground that prevented this shooting, or that's what Democrats have never really spent year round organizing strategy to point to. These are the things that you know, people don't even know what they're looking at. If it came from a policy. You know how that came. People just sit back on their Elites'S attitude. Well they should just know. It's just say it's one on one. It doesn't work like that. You have to really show people, train people, let them see, brag about what you do. Put some money in the hood. Do like Trump did. He was smart to put his name on the check. Y'all had an opportunity to do it, Obama, when you gave a check, when Biden gave a check. So for Barack Obama, sempers talking about we just didn't do it because it wasn't about it. It was about y'all. Now, y'all should have do it. Don't hate to play it, get the game. You should have did it. That's what Governor Kim did in Florida, I mean in Georgia doing Corona. When he passed out cards with cashawn, he called it Kim card. Oh. I wasn't familiar with that. Kill Kim card. That's why people talking about Stacey am and Stacy Amens. People remembered when they were struggling every time they swiped their card Kim card.
Yeah, so all of that too late now, I mean, yeah, that's what the governor does, saying when in Florida, when the gas was high everywhere else, he made the gas cheaper.
In Florida and wanted you to know he did it. Those are the small things they It's not that Democrats have pardoned far more black people than the Republican administration, but they don't talk about it. They could have partnered Kwame two, Yeah, they can. They could have part but they don't want to be well, I don't want to make it seem like I'm helping a criminals. Okay, Well, so you go gave Trump the opportunity to do it, and not only are they gonna do it, they're gonna show bowed them out here to let you know. You know what I'm saying. So when you're talking about it's not gonna bring over all black people, but Wisconsin has the highest incarceration rate for black men in the country. So harry O saying, I've been uh, I've received clemency from Trump. I got out of jail because of Trump. You tell me who somebody who not even somebody's been formally incarcerated, maybe even their family who has had to endure that with them. People forget about that, you know, a lot of states felings can't vote, But you forget about they mamas and their wives, and they brothers and their husbands. And I talk about man's incarceration not because I've been in jail, j because of the people I know that it been in jail. You know what I'm saying, how and how it's affected them. So when you look at that, you're not just losing one voter. You may be losing a family of five, ten, fifteen. Is a prosecutor going to do better in Milwaukee? Or Trump who's boasting about the few pardons that he'd done. Yeah, those are the things people got to look at. I'm not saying it can't go either way. I'm just saying I'm looking at all of you know, I watched you know people the me folks who are doing the board, and you know, Steve Kernaki's one of the best with the numbers and all of that. But when you're watching those numbers, you'll notice, Jade, they're only talking about this percentage went up last time Trump had this, Biden had this, he wanted by two percent, but in two thousand and six cent they're only going by past data. When I'm doing my numbers, my what you've seen me do and live and I've done some other shows. When I'm doing my numbers, I'm doing the numbers based upon the swing states, what's happening in those swing states on the ground, not what they did before. The current state of Michigan right now on the ground. So if you're not looking at the data with all of the issues that are in play, if you're not looking at the data and also comparing it to the early voting numbers that we can see right now, if you're not comparing those things, you can't You're not, to me making a solid prediction. You're just going by what they did last time. Things last time change. You're in Michigan, you didn't have a Democrat congresswoman running against the president. So talking about what you won last time, that's not the same. You can't say last time. You know, oh, it was a precented port to work. It wasn't a war in Gozl right, things have changed. And yeah in Georgia, yeah they won, but you had Corona playing into that so heavy on ask the tea battles. You had a black man on the ticket, senator war Knock. They came out with center war knocked. They did not come out with Stacy Abrams. She lost the first time, Molly wopped the second. Yeah she did. So if they didn't vote in a woman governor, you think they're gonna vote in VP. Harris. These are the things that people have to look at and not to say they can't because they like their governor. You can have a Republican governor and still vote federally, you know, for a Democrat, for example North Carolina Democrat governor, they still may go red on the federal level. So it's not always you know, even in that way, some people just like their governor. Because remember I always tell you the government has the most power. To me, that's where all the attention should be. Governor races should be covered like presidential races year round like that. That's really what it is. I'll direct people's attention to it again if you want to me. One of the best debates, hands down, you know, as far as policy wise, and what's so important was the debate between DeSantis. And that's what I was going to say. We need to want those because you're now you're actually talking about real policy. You know, I would have a governor versus let's get a the Santists, a Newsome and a you know, Chris Christie, like actually talk. When you get a chance to see what governors can do and executive power they have, that's what's the most important to me, and what they actually did. Congress people can't talk. Congress people can only talk about what bills they proposed, what bills they you know, co signed, what bills they voted for. Governor can talk about no, when we were struggling, we shut down. You know, we had less depths in California. The Sanders can say, yeah, well we kept we also kept business going. People business didn't dial.
You know.
They really can get into the minutia things. So I'm just a big governor fan, big governor fan. Anyway, guys, those are the things that we have to look at. I am nerding out every day, Jade. I encourage people to go to the two seventy to win. I have come up with my math several different scenarios. I just put it on the table that I think if Democrats and obviously the same goes for Republicans. But I'm just looking at the Democrat numbers because I'm just more familiar with you know, the constituencies and the problems and what's happening on the ground. I am going to say, you know, I look at Steve Kernaki's putting all these different scenarios with Michigan and Georgia and all this and all the suspense, but honestly, if you're depending on the South the Confederacy to take this over for non white woman, I'll say non white because you know, they say Shane Black, so non white maybe maybe not. So the math that I've done has taken out Georgia and North Carolina where you don't even have to depend on it, And I've taken out Michigan because I just don't know which way that's gonna go. I just Michigan is truly, truly, truly a toss up. So my math was Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and either in Arizona. If she can get those three, she does not have to depend on Georgia, North Carolina or Michigan. Now again Trump can get those, and again the math changes. But I'm just looking at the states that she can get without having to depend on. You know, she puts Georgia in definitely a win. You know, if you had to pick, if I had to pick between North Carolina and Georgia. I would bet more or on Georgia just because North Carolina. Right now, we can look at the data. We can look real time. Democrats and Republicans are literally neck and neck if they're voting party line according to their party affiligation. They are literally neck and neck. And people can go check that out on the AP news website. That's turned that's showing you the early voting every day. Georgia's not showing that early. Just shows the number of early voting. But you do not have to register as a Democrat or Republican. So we don't have those numbers broken down. We don't have those numbers in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia. We do have the data for Arizona, Nevada, which Republicans are leading in both of those areas. By the way, you don't here Democrats talking about that, and they want to believe, Yeah, there's a lot of Democrats voting Democrats. I mean, we're a lot of Republicans voting Democrats. Well, if you want to believe that a Republican got out of their bed two weeks early to rush for Harris, believe it. But I'm gonna go ahead and go with their voting party line, and Democrats, you better make sure on election day y'all turn y'all vote out, because right now Democrats are leading. They're overwhelming leading in Arizona, leading a little bit in the battle. We don't know the numbers in Georgia. We don't know the numbers in Michigan. We don't know the numbers in Wisconsin. But if we look at the trend of the seventh States swing states, and the trend is either neck and neck or Republicans are leading, we can go ahead and assume that Wisconsin, Michigan, and Georgia is neck and neck like North Carolina. You know, if you look at the trend, there is no Democrats are leading anywhere except Pennsylvania. Democrats are leading overwhelmingly in Pennsylvania according to the early vote data. And of course the Democrats say, oh, we're leading. But then if I say, well, how do you know some of those Democrats ain't vote Republican, They'll say, no, Democrats are not. You know, so people like to change the data, you know, that fits them. So I'm just looking at the data real time. If people are going party affiliation, and I'm giving an analysis shade on. Okay, if they're all either neck and neck, then I'm gonna assume, you know, the state that we don't have a data on are more than likely probably nick and neck. Just you know, yeah, just assume that it is so. And when I say nick and neck, we're talking about ten thousand people. So after all Trump has said all Trump is done, his surrogance have said it for him, all of that is still nick and neck. So that should tell you this is not about policy, Jade. You know when you say all the policies, this is not about policy. This is about white power and retaining that power. This is about patriarchy. This is about do I want a woman to leave? It is beyond know what about policy on page five and nine, And that's it for some people. But it's not that it's too polarizing. It's too clear.
Yeah, And that was honestly, tessked that was your feedback before because you kept saying and you were standing on y'all decided not to have anyone the Democratic Party decided that they want Biden and that no one was going to challenge Biden, and then Biden had to drop out, and that they really should just have had an open primary.
And I also said off the top that white light, racist light, you know, not hardcore sheet KKK would feel more comfortable voting for a half dead Biden than a non black woman. YEP, I stand on that. I haven't been saying it every day all day, Jay, because you know if I say it, they'll say you speaking into existence, you hurting it that you tend if only you know. So you know, I said it in the beginning. I said, we just go see, I said them aginning it was a setup. I said it from the beginning. Y'all should have went with the four thousand other black women that told y'all to keep Biden in the buick. But after they said they got it. Okay, y'all got it. And it's seventy six, do you it, by the way, the nineteen seventy six, the nineteen seventy six view. I said it at the gate, and I'm not even to forget if it was even if it wasn't, Harris, They're literally running a ninety day campaign literally because Biden didn't run in the primary, so they didn't do any get out the vote, get out the vote. As you saw the race, we just worked on that pamphlet that it takes a minute to matriculate that like to get to actually get the vote out, so that you didn't do any get out to vote activities none, because he wasn't primaried. You would you would have folks ready to go, you know, people on the ground. Campaign offices stabbed all of that because none of that. That's a really important part, Jade. When when they had ten plus people running in the Democrat primary and people started falling off and they called us behind Biden. Those same folks who were already working in South Carolina for Corey Pory Bookerchory Booker his staff that was working, Like I always use that example because you know, I talk about that a lot. Did the The lady that was that did his outreach was also over Bernie Sanders. She worked with us, She went to Corey Booker's team. Bernie Sander should have retained her so that she could have helped him in twenty twenty. And then after Corey Booker she went to Biden. That worked. That penetration, those numbers, those people you're activating, they transfer on the get out the voter is a real process. So to start it ninety days out for any candidate was an uphill battle. M h. Even though they raised the money. The billion dollars was raised. That has been fumbled in a major way. And I'll wait until after to do an autopsy. But again, guys, I want to be clear anything.
You go back, you said you're wait until after to do an autopsy. I just wanted to make sure people heard that part right. So you go back and pick apart exactly, you know.
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you exactly this that right now. Hey, I don't want to crush anybody's hope. Because Hurricane Milton happened. Anything can happened. If there is a time that a non white woman could be elected, it would be this time. It would need to be somebody against so polarizing like a trunk for it to happen. I do believe that. I do believe that there are people who are like I just can't take this no more. I don't give a damn if he's running against a rabbit. You know, I don't care. I just I literally, my anxiety's too high, it's too much, it's too chaotic. Most people are like that. Most people are not running to the smoke. Yeah, you know, so I believe that if it can happen, it can't, it would be Now what I'm saying is, I'm not shocked. I don't want to come on this microphone. You're saying, I've never seen nothing like this before. Yes, you have, because you're a student of history. This is America. You've seen it. You've seen it. Yes, thank you. You're still an asstery. We've seen it. Slavery, Yeah, they're cropping Jim Crow, mass incarceration, bussing, We've seen it. This is the twenty twenty fourth version. Yeah, it's just digital. What's the difference. Oh my god, I've never like black you guy. We got some backing shocked about this. We do no history, don't we. So if there is no post racial Obama idea that they tried to sell us on, and that's why Trump got in because they came back to make sure y'all knew it. So, like I said, I'm looking forward to seeing however it lands. You know, however it lands.
I'm looking forward to the autopsy results results. Oh yeah, next the next segments on Straight Shot nor Chaser. I know you're gonna go all the way in and I will have the data and the data ready, We're gonna look at the data from those swing states and see determine who showed up and who didn't show up, and how they showed.
Up and how they showed up and why they didn't show up, and what could have been done and what money was spent and not spent. And this is I'm just saying now the results of this election, I'm really gonna determine organizers in their place, you know, moving forward, because this campaign is heavy even though they say they got three hundred and something ground offices, I guess, but how they mobilize their money is very different than what they've done in the past. And so this heavy on podcasts and heavy on media and heavy on you know, we're gonna see if TikTok can bring it in like they say so like I said, we'll see. It's gonna be a interesting I'm excited about I'm excited about day up. I'll be doing a live show on Revolts, So guys, make sure you tap into that YouTube. Is gonna were gonna start it late. We're not gonna sit there for hours before because nobody's gonna watch it that long. But you know, probably ten or eleven o'clock, you know, when the numbers actually start coming in. So I'm excited about that. So we'll be in real time Jay, you know, yeah, looking at the numbers. So I'm very excited about that. And so that's it. Guys, thank you for listening. Straighthout, no chase of Jay. Thank you for being here as always, and guys, make sure you subscribe, make sure you stay uh tapped in. I'll tell you this, if Trump is in, we're gonna have a hell of a four years. Yeah, it's gonna be available four years. That's for sure from a media standpoint, because he's gonna keep chaos, you know. So, like I said, we'll see I can't call it Jaden. Nobody can call it. And anybody who is calling it they're not paying attention to what's really happening. Nobody can call this. People say, oh, what's your prediction. There is no prediction. I'm giving you the data and telling you which way the data could possibly swing. To even be talking about poles when people are actually voting. Now we can actually look at the numbers. Yes, Poles is just to keep people hyping and keep people not talking about poles when we can look at the numbers. So but that's no fun. People like to you know, talk about poles and what ifs. You know, that's more sexy on the media, keep people more tied in. But me, we're gonna keep going back to these actual numbers. Let's go from the numbers. So anyway, guys, we will. I'll let you next week. Peace. Peace. If you like what you heard on straight Shot No Chaser, please subscribe and trump a five star review and tell a friend. Straight Shot Chaser is a production of the Black Effect podcast Network in iHeartRadio on TESZLM figure Out and I like to thank our producer editor mixer Dwayne Crawford and our executive producer Charlotta Magne to God. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.