Straight Fire - Lions Stun the Texans, Eberflus is About to Get Axed, the Confounding Chargers & More Jets Misery

Published Nov 11, 2024, 10:00 AM

On today’s episode, Jason quickly discusses the Detroit Lions stunning comeback win over the Houston Texans in a game where Jared Goff threw five interceptions and still led the game-winning drive, why it's become clear that the Chicago Bears needs to fire head coach Matt Eberflus if they want to maximize Caleb Williams' enormous potential, how the Indianapolis Colts' decision to bench Anthony Richardson has come back to bite them, why it's so hard to figure out if Jim Harbaugh's Los Angeles Chargers are as good as their record says the are and why he's hoping that the New York Jets sever ties with Aaron Rodgers this offseason. Finally, J-Mac closes the show with his Best Bets for the Monday Night Football showdown between the Miami Dolphins and the Los Angeles Chargers.

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What is up, Straight Fire fan, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Monday, November eleventh. Happy Veterans Day to all the veterans out there who fought for our country. We salute you here on Straight Fire. It's obviously a big holiday. But now for the podcast. Because there was too much happening this weekend. I was telling Rob g this is a rarity, folks. My weekend was so slammed that I'm in a big picks pool for the first time ever. I did not get in all my picks. I think I got in, you know, the Thursday night, at the Sunday night, and I just I was like, I don't love this week Let me wait, let me and I just wasn't able to put them in. Play basketball Sunday morning, daughter's volleyball, daughter soccer Saturday. Exhausted after that, you know, it's just a long weekend, but a fun one. And college football another winning week I on fire. Don't ask about the contest. Yeah, not good at all. This was a big weekend for underdogs. I believe underdogs eight. I think in nine and nine and three, maybe just an unbelievable one PM slate for the Dogs. They were barking outright wins from a bunch of losers like the Panthers and the Patriots. Just a wild Sunday. Not a lot of great football games. But we'll start with what went down Sunday night, which was I thought a great football game, kind of a great bad game, if you will. The Lions down twenty three to seven at halftime to the Texans on the road. Jared Goff had five interceptions. Midway through the third quarter, the Lions looked totally dead, and then the Texans forgot how to play offense. They got shut out in the second half. And I've got an amazing stat I just saw, and the Lion winning on a Jake Baits fifty two yard field goal. At the buzzer, it looked like it was headed to the upright. It I think it grazed that little tassel at the at the top of the upright and the Lions went bonkers twenty six to twenty three. Baits actually made a fifty eight yarder with about five minutes left to cut it or to tie the game. But here's an unbelievable stat that I think says a lot about the Texans who have regressed significantly. They are listen, They're still a very good football team, but they're just they're not what we thought they would make the leap to after last year's amazing season. So since Week six against the Patriots, the Houston Texans have not scored a touchdown in the second half. Folks, that's an ex that makes no sense. So since that Patriots game, it was against the Packers, which was a loss, the Colts where they hung on for dear life, the Jets, and now the Lions. How do you with c. J. Stroud go four games with no second half points. I think the answer you're looking for is Nico Collins. And that's why I could not back Houston in this game. Now, depending on the number you got, they might have covered the spread. But this Houston team without Nico Collins, he was it was like he didn't really practice until Friday and then it was like he's questionable. I was like, there's no way they're risking this guy with a hamstring injury. And then he's in not active fifteen minutes before the game, crushing loss for the Texans, who dropped to six and four. They're still in total control of the division, mostly because the AFC South is a joke. But this Houston team has major problems. And how about the Detroit Lions, folks, this feels like a team of destiny. I mean, Jared Goff throws five picks, looks awful. Is under duress all night? I mean, Jared Goff. Listen to these numbers. Fifteen of thirty Buddy threw for two hundred and forty yards, which is not bad. The two touchdown and five picks. He strangely wasn't sacked, maybe because he kept throwing the ball away. The run game wasn't really clicking until Gibbs got loose late Montgomery twelve for thirty two, So like nothing was working for the Lions, and then everything stopped working for Houston, like Joe Mixon early drive. I mean John Metch, you remember that guy. I believe Alabama he caught a touchdown pass. It was just a weird football game and I just I came away. Now, remember Detroit did not have the services of the new guy they picked up at the deadline. I'm spacing on his name, but he did not play. So the pass rush was supposed to be anemck uh Houston's offensive line is even worse. Lions register for sacks seven quarterback hits McNeil busting through the line like they're just generating stuff. I thought Ben Johnson had a really good second half. And folks, I'm just telling you, I think the Detroit Lions are the best team in the NFL. This is one of those wins where it's like, Okay, you expect a clunker right prime time, coming off the big divisional win over the Packers, and for a half they were dead in the water, and they celebrated like they won the NFC championship. When you look around at the carnage in the NFC and you see, oh man, someone like Atlanta. How the frick are they losing to the Saints? Are they any good Lions? They're amazing Packers up and down. We'll see if they get healthy after the by Washington lost a tough one. We'll get to but like, tell me, who's better than Detroit. I'm a firm believer in Philly. Not a lot of people are. I think this is a very good team. I know they took advantage of Cooper Rush, but I'm telling you, Detroit, to me, it's not even close. I think they're far superior to the Chiefs. Now, can they beat the Chiefs in a Super Bowl game with that defense? We shall see. But do was super duper impressed with the bounce back in the grit of those pesky Detroit Lions. Who I'm just telling you, man, this does feel like a team of destiny.

Rob absolutely, And if I can't, can I think a verbal victory lap right now? Because during that game, after GoF had thrown his fifth interception, I put out a tweet that said five I and t's and they're still only down by ten. Golf is going to lead a game winning touchdown or drive and people are going to lose their minds. It's exactly what happened. I've read this stat on Sunday night. Jared Goff became just the third quarterback in the last thirty years to throw five picks in a game and still win, joining Matt Ryan and Tony Romo. Look, this Detroit Lions team is unbelievably tough, and I know people are going to make a joke about the you know, hey, five picks. He wont a game like That's not sustainable. Jared Goah blah blah, Jared Goff. There was a month there this season where I think he completed like seventy five eighty percent of his passes and he was just basically had a perfect passer rating for three games. That's how good he was. He was carrying them on his right shoulder. And the mark of a great team is and this is something that even I don't want to admit it. This is something that Cannes say he has going for him when something's not going right. In this case, your quarterback doesn't have it going. He's turning the ball over. Got more turnovers than a bakery. Shout out, Rob Parker, and you find a way to have the rest of the team pick you up. The defense comes up a couple of turnovers, the offensive line gets going there in the third and fourth quarter and makes just enough place to keep it close. That allows your quarterback to get his head on straight and make two game winning game clinching drives there at the end, one to tie it, one to win it. This team is easily the best team in the NFC for my money. At their best, they're probably the best team in football because they play more complimentary football than Baltimore Baltimore's defense is you know, atrocious. They'll be puitting lately. Their offense is great, their defense is not good at all. What Detroit has going for them is even without Aiden Hutchinson, their defense tackles well, they swarm, and they make just enough plays to get the ball back to that offense, and that offense can beat you both on the ground and through the air. They are again, best team in the NFC for my money, best team in the NFL.

Houston, by the way, three point eight yards per play against this Lion's defense. That is troubling. I mean, they haven't Houston six and four. I mean they're gonna make the playoffs. It's fine, but overall, quick point on Jared Goff's interceptions. So one was a hail Mary, so that's not that huge of a deal right end of the first half. Then he threw one that I guess ended up on the one or two yard line, and that actually wasn't the worst thing in the world because Houston couldn't move the ball and they had a short field and they were able to score. So two of the five not bad. But again, five interceptions is glaring. I want to go. So we're recording this after the Lions game. It's after midnight on the East Coast and this move has not happened yet, But I am going I'm gonna kind of try to call my shot here. I am of the belief that the Chicago Bears will be firing Matt Eberflus this week. I have no inside knowledge, but folks, if you've watched the Bears since that Hail Mary loss, they have been a dead team walking. They're essentially a corpse. They have zero offensive touchdowns in the last two weeks. So they lose on the flu Kill Mary where the kid Stevenson's acting like a buffoon and it is the big historians in the NFL, right, And then they disciplined Stevenson and the team goes to Arizona and they're clearly not over it, as Caleb Williams went on to say, hey, we could have done a better job. He kind of threw his front office and coaching staff under the bus. We could have done a better job to get the guys up for it. It just it didn't happen for us. So then you're like, oh, they go home, they're facing the Patriots. You're like, Okay, they're gonna get sweat back, They're gonna get healthy. And Vegas had them as six and a half point favorites, and I almost took the Bears in the contest, and Chicago came out and folks, it's the same old thing. They have not woken up since the Hail Mary loss. Caleb Williams down. He it was down a few offensive linemen. I believe it was four or three, and then another one was lost or in the game. So four he was sacked nine times. Okay, now he was holding the ball too long, but he clearly had happy feet in the pocket. The longest play from scrimmage the Bears had was eighteen yards. They could do nothing. Couldn't run the football, couldn't pass, the foot, couldn't protect. They all phases of the game. Chicago was humiliated. They basically early in the game were able to cross midfield and all they got they crossed the midfield first four possessions, all they got was a field goal. That was like a telltale sign something's going on here. They had one play longer than twelve yards, but they just they couldn't do anything. And this is not a great Patriots team. And so afterward eba Flus was like, hey, everything's on the table, we're looking at everything. Oh really, well, I mean listen, I don't. I don't think like the season's dead. But with three straight losses Hail Mary, listless in Arizona, punchless in Newing at home against New England, now they got to go face the Packers, who are or they're hosting the Packers who are off a bye, and it feels like the seasons hanging in the balance. Do you give Ibraflus one more chance? Or do you just say you know what, we need to press the reset button the next I mean, are the schedule's brutal? Okay, it's Packers, Vikings Lions, Niners, Vikings Lions, Seahawks Packers. There's a chance they lose every single one of those games. I'm being dead series. The adjustment from this Packers game, I think it was Packers like minus two on the road. Now it's like minus seven. Everybody's selling the Bears. It does look like this team has quit. And why would you bring back Eberflus for another game? What's the point if the team is quit? It just doesn't make any sense. And this team needs before you lose everybody. And I mean it seems like DJ Moore is lost. I don't know what's going on with him. Caleb, that's not good. The defense seems checked out. I mean they're letting Drake May move the football like Drake May, They're not good. Like this is a troubling loss of your Chicago Bears fan. I think Hebraflus is gonna get run. I don't see the point of holding on to him because you ain't gonn keep them anyway. If anything, this gives you a chance your front office polls to assess what you have, start playing some backups I don't know, and you know, maybe get a jump on who you want to put a Belichick. Hey, but what you got vray Ball? We need we need a culture in Chicago. They really don't have anything. And I did see some calls to bench Caleb Williams as he's now lost head to head against Drake May and Jaden Daniels.

Not the end of the world.

Let these guys play through their mistakes. So you know, I told you guys, my kids played volleyball, and some of the coaches will just let the kids play through their mistakes. I've been at tournaments where the team is targeting a player because they can't return to jump serve, so they just keep serving it the kid. So the coach could do two things. Hey, you know what, just a freaking tournament. We're gonna let them jump serve at you until you get it, figure it out, or you just pull them and say, hey, you can't do it. We're gonna get in somebody else and they can try to target that person. So the Indianapolis Colts, said m Anthony Richardson, not our guy. We're just gonna pull him. I think the Bear should leave Caleb Williams out there now if he's down five offensive line mean, you don't want your you don't want your first round pick, your franchise quarterback getting killed out there. But otherwise, assuming they're healthy this week, you gotta start Caleb. I don't think there's any discussion now. If you want to talk about the Colts, they royally and I mean royally screwed up with this. Joe Flacco gives us the best chance to win. Everybody knew that. But here's the problem. Joe Flacco, since he took over as a starter of the last two games, has not his first pass against the Bills pick six. Next possession, tries to screen past the Jonathan Taylor interception. Flacco ends the day with three picks and don't forget also to fumble in Bill's territory. This Colts team has regressed without Anthony Richardson. I'm not saying Richardson good. I'm saying the guy's had ten starts. Someone came at me and was like, oh, Anthony Richardson's unplayable. I was like, time out. Do you remember Jared Goff? And of course the guy didn't. He's a Jared Goff wasn't just bad, And I just said him the link. I'm like, look at Jared Goff's stats with Jeff Fisher when he was with the Rams. You guys can look him up. If you want to doubt me, go ahead. Jared Goff was oh and seven. He could not do any He barely snapped the football. That's how bad it was. And I remember it because I was shocked that Goff went number one. I watched a lot of college football. I don't remember him distinguishing himself as number one. And he was oh and seven to start his career. And then he gets McVeigh and wouldn't you notice that he turns it around pretty quickly. I think Richardson could turn around. There's gonna be bumps and hiccups, obviously, But the Culture Dona playoff team now anyway, Now, they were up briefly thirteen to ten on Buffalo before Josh Allen basically exerted as will and the Colts just you know, turnover on downs, interception fumblah blah blah blah. Yeah, because I had the Colts. I watch this game closely, and I just I don't understand this insistence to play Flacco. Is he a great backup, a spots starter, come off the couch and give us a win. Sure, certainly, But he's not doing what he did in Cleveland last year when he comes off the bench or off the sofa actually and decides to take them to the playoffs. They had a phenomenal defense last year. They had Amari Cooper was very good and Joku, like Flacco, was nails. But then they got to the playoffs and they lose by fifty or whatever it was to the Texans. I think Flaco had two pick sixes. If you again, he's a he's a fossil. You show defenses too much of him, They know his weaknesses. He's he's a sitting duck back there, and the Bills took advantage. So I don't know. I'm of the belief let your guy sinker swim. Okay. Now, in my men's basketball league, as Rob, I'm sure chuckles, it's a different story. As like the GM of the team. If I missed like three shots in a row, I'm pulling myself out of the cave. Okay, no EDITFL quarterback is getting paid, is doing that. But I'm of the belief get Anthony Richardson back in the damn game. Let him start. I don't care that it's embarrassing and plunky. Hey, we're all just tinkering. Okay, Colts aren't going to playoffs anyway, that's not happening. Caleb Williams, keep him and dumpyvers.

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Well, he said a lot there, so someone trying to unpack it the best I can. First off with the Indianapolis Colts, I think I said on this podcast a week and a half ago, two weeks ago, when when the benching first happened. Is Anthony Richardson's in that weird place where he's clearly not good enough to be an NFL starting quarterback. But he's also in a place where the only way he's ever gonna potentially even reach that point where he is a good NFL quarterback is by playing and taking his lumps because he needed time in college. I believe he only started like thirteen games, and that's just a recipe for It's not a recipe for success in the NFL. You got to get reps and reps and reps, and he's such a raw potential type guy that he needed to play and play through all his issues. Actually, to be quite honest with you, I think that the Colts losing the way they did on Sunday and them kind of free falling here with Flacco might actually help Anthony Richardson because they're gonna realize the season is lost anyways, they're not trying to fight for a wild card bid anymore, and they'll just put Anthony Richmond back out there and let him take his lumps like he should be doing right now. The Caleb Williams Jared Goff comparison I thought was very spot on by you. I don't even know if he meant to make it this way, because when Jared Goff came out, he had some Even the people who liked him all agreed that there were certain things about him that were going to be flaws no matter where he went. He's slight of build number one, number two, he has small hands, so the concern was always can he play in weather? Can he hold onto the football? And he's going to be able to take the pounding of an NFL season, And thankfully for him, he got drafted by the Rams, ended up going to a Dome team in Detroit. He's played well enough in weather that it hasn't been really been an issue, but you knew going in that there were some certain things you have to work around for him to reach his max potential. He's very accurate. If you get him in the right system, he could play the quarterback at a high level, which obviously he's done throughout his career. Caleb Williams, Again, even the people who were his most staunch defenders all agreed he's got a lot of backyard football in him. He makes everything off schedule off script, off platform. All of his highlights are of him scrambling around, running around and throwing a beautiful forty yard pass across his body something like that. Like that's what makes him special. What he needs. And this is like a weird thing to say, because not like there's a lot of them growing on trees out there. He needs his Andy Reid because Patrick Mahomes did a lot of the same stuff at Texas Tech past. Mahomes did a lot of the same stuff early in the NFL. He needs somebody who's gonna let him be that wild horse and make three or four yolo type plays in a game, but then have a guy there that's gonna bring him back in structure and allow him to be the best version of himself. Matt Eberflus, we talked about this basically a week ago. Two weeks ago. We talked about in the preseason pod. He's not that guy. He's just not. They should have been fired, you know, in the offseason. Somehow he keeps his job. That brings in Shane Waldron, who's probably gonna fire later today on Monday, you know, in hopes of keeping his own job. I think we can all agree that's kind of where it's going at this point. But unless Kayleb Williams can find his Andy Reid, and again there's not there's only one. But if he can't find someone who's going to be able to get him in some kind of rhythm, in some kind of structure, so that instead of it being fifty to fifty where it's him going yellow and him playing in structure, it's more like seventy thirty or eighty twenty. And it's only a handful of times he gets to get the full Kayleb Williams experience. Because since London, I know you're talking about the Hailmail game. Since London, when he had that four touchdown performance across the pond against the Jags, Caleb Williams zero to three, completing fifty percent of his passes, one hundred and fifty six pass yards a game, no touchdowns, no picks, sacked eighteen times with the passer rating of sixty four. Like, that's not good. I'm not saying that he's a bust at all, because he's a rookie. He's only been half a season, but all of the issues that he had in college have all shown up in the NFL holds the ball too long, happy feet, doesn't take what's available to him, wants to push the ball down the field, and is inaccurate. So once they fire ebra flues to your point, maybe they get on track to find the next guy they started early coaching search. But I don't think a guy like Belichick of Rabel is the guy for him. I think whoever is the next hot shot offensive guru is who he needs, and that's the only way that Kayla Williams is ever going to reach his full potential.

Well, the thing is Cliff Kingsbury is interesting because he worked with kayleab at USC. I don't My guess is that I don't think he would leave for the he could.

I don't know.

It's almost certain Ben Johnson's not staying in the division. I can't imagine that if you say no to Belichick of Rabel. I mean, like, you know, Ryan Day, does he get interesting if Ohio State runs the table. We talked with Bruce Feldman last week. I think there might be someone in college, but the transition from college has been very tough for guys lately, so the Bear's job is going to be super interesting. Let me go to a team that I can't tell if they're good, but they keep smashing everyone. And that's the LA Chargers. So they were big favorites against Tennessee, fall behind early and then just end up dominating the much of the game. They win twenty seven to seventeen. They cover the spread. They have now eclipsed their win total from last season. And what Brandon Staley could never fix. The defense. Jim Harbaugh's got this defense like impenetrable. It is one of the top defenses in the league. Now, this is why I don't know just how good they are yet. Okay, sure they got where they get seven sacks against Will Levis, and I got some other nerdy stats here for you because I was able to finally sit at home all day on a Sunday. So Justin Herbert threw five passes in the second half, rob five of five seventy yards and a touchdown.

That's it.

It's just running in the fourth quarter. Okay. They have played almost nobody. That's the problem with this Tennessee with this Chargers team. So their wins. Here are the quarterbacks that Jim Harboll's dominated, Gardner Minshew who's been benched multiple times, Bryce Young in week two. Who had been bench Now he's back bow Knicks, who's been up and down. But again you face Bownicks early in career. Come on, Spencer Rattler got to start for the Saints. I don't even know if he was active this week. With Derek carrback, Jameis Winston, I think he threw three interceptions in the second half and then Will Levis. Okay, those are the wins. That's it. Here are their next four games. Joe Burrow Sunday Night Football. Oh my gosh, is that going to be a game? Lamar Jackson, Hello, Kirk Cousins and Patrick Mahomes. We will find out a lot about the Chargers in the next four games. There was a video that they posted after the victory in the locker room where Jim Harble was like, everybody were so happy. I want everybody high five and everybody and it was just guys smiling, a gritty walking around high five. The vibes are awesome with the Chargers. I love everything about Jim Harble. He is just such a winner. He knows how to build a culture. He's got a philosophy. We're gonna go and run the ball down your throat. And then gonna have some justin Herbert play action. It's all very predictable. You know what's coming, you just can't stop it. And then you know, justin Herbert. They added his legs as an element. There was a fourth and one, I believe inside the five yard line. I was like, he already kicked like a twenty one yard field goal. Will he do it again? And they decided, you know what, We're gonna go empty backfield, which clearly caught the Titans off guard. They had a running back back there motioned him out and I was like, what the hell fourth and what are they trying to draw him off? And then it was like Herbert on like kind of a boot and then he cut it back. He looked like a like a Taysom Hill or something, cut it back and then just darts under the end zone untouched. I was like, holy shit, what a play call. I'm just telling you, Chargers, they look awesome. But then you look across the field and it's like, oh, it's it's the Titans. They're they're terrible. I'm very interested what happens against these good quarterbacks. Apparently the Chargers were down their starting quarterbacks and started two rookies on the outside. I'd never heard of him heart And still if they start those guys against Jamar Chase, who just had two hundred and thirty eight yards age against the Ravens, it's gonna be lights out. Now. I don't think they were resting guys, but I saw crazy stat Rob. How does this make sense? Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa played twenty two snaps combined. What twenty two snaps for your best two defensive are your best pass rushers and you still got seven sacks? What is going on? I don't think they were saving guys, but maybe guys weren't weren't healthy, and they were like, oh, we got to get the young guys some reps. So not only are they building depth, but they're smashing bad teams. That's a good sign. If you guys want a good example of who's good and who's not, go to this website called and I think we've talked about it ahead of the draft Tenkathon. It's like the gut side I go to to see for draft order. If you look at all the good teams at the bottom, they're winning a lot of games in a row, and look at the teams at the top, it's Jacksonville, who had like one hundred and forty yards of offense with with Mac Jones. The New York Giants who lost to the freakin Panthers at six and a half point favorites. I mean, that's embarrassing. The Titans are right there. They are a dumpster fire. The Cleveland Browns. Although I may have already bet the Browns this week, I'm sorry for informing you that. Yeah, the Raiders, sorry Robb G. They're not good. They were on a bye week, but we'll still take shots at them. And then it's like Patriots, Jets, Saints, Carrol, Like, there's so many bad teams and the Chargers somehow drew all of them early and are just smashing everybody. Now there's a chance they creator here and fall back to six and six if they lose four straight or whatever, you know, under five hundreds. I just can't tell if they're good or not. And I do think this Bengals spot is a rough one. That being said, Rob I try to drop some gambling nuggets every day here and on the herd. So Cincinnati last Thursday played Baltimore coach by Sean Harbaugh now the Bengals have to come west to face the Chargers, coached by Jim Harball. I wonder if brothers Harball will have a few conversations about maybe Jamar Chase, maybe Joe Burrow, because you know who didn't do a good job against Jamar Chase is the Raven secondary. I would suspect that we see some sort of different, exotic, interesting defense that really tries to limit Jamar Chase because there's no way he's gonna get the airspace he had against John Harball on Thursday night. Rob Any thoughts on the Chargers.

I'm not as low on them as you are because I think, Wow, I just can't say they're a playoff team for shortly. I mean that's fair. I think that unlike most teams in the NFL, they have an identity. They know exactly who they are, they know exactly how they want to play, and whether they're good enough to play that way against the elite teams, we'll see right well, and we'll see what happened when they face a high octane offense that it's gonna forced them to not be able to, you know, run the ball down your throat over and over. JK Dobbins Gus the bus came back on Sunday, like, we'll see when that comes. But there are a lot of teams in the NFL, some of them in the playoff mix where I don't know what their identity is. I mean Atlanta, I thought they were gonna be a high flying offense and they go and put seventeen points against the total, right Like I don't know the San Francisco forty nine ers. I have no idea what they are on a week to week basis. They try to fumble that one again a game on Sunday, I had that one on the big screen because I had multiple games going. I wanted to watch that one in Baker Mayfield was this close. You can't see that on YouTube. He was this close to stealing that one at home.

And so.

At least the Chargers have an identity. They're gonna play great defense, they're gonna be very disciplined, they're gonna run the ball, They're gonna shorten the game. They're gonna almost rush you offensively to thinking you have to or quickly because you don't know when you might or might not get the ball back. It's very similar to what Baltimore did a few years ago. Early on in Lamar Jackson era, they would have these seven eight nine minute drives and suddenly you're like, well, if we don't score here, we may not get the ball the rest as this half. So we got to go quickly. And it gets you outside of what you probably do best. You can't be balanced because of what they're doing. So I think that they're probably gonn to make in the playoffs. I think that, you know, they're solid enough where even these games where it's a tough part of their schedule, they might go, you know, two and three, three and two down the stretch something like that and sneak in. But now I think they're okay. I think they're all right to have a lot better than the brandis. Daily experience tell you that much.

Oh gosh, they were unwatchable like they're They're not like exciting. Now they're just like good sock.

You know what.

Solid, They're just a solid team.

Listen. I don't even want to talk about this Jets situation anymore. I'm so over it. But as Rob laughs, here, he knows, I don't know how to phrase this. Let me think here, So I don't care how good you are like, if you're an All Star, an All Pro, a Hall of Famer, I think it's fair that you can be called out. Okay, Bill Belichick for years called out Tom Brady, not always publicly, but sometimes privately in the meetings. We've heard the legendary stories where he says, Tom, you got to make the throw. I could get Johnny High School senior from nearby, you know, Foxborough High School to make this outthrow. And you know, Brady took it in stride because he was winning and who cares. He's Tom Brady, blah blah blah until he couldn't anymore, and Giselle got pissed. We're even seeing Demiico Ryans after the loss last night, called out CJ.

Strouud.

Yeah, he was not good enough. He turned the ball over on the first play and turned the ball over in the red zone. That's not winning football. Like that's a message, like esays Struck, you were good enough, and I would agree with that, right but dimigo, Ryan's calling out your quarterback a little Roski. Nobody's calling out Aaron Rodgers.

Nobody.

He just you can stick up the joint, which he has been doing, and nobody says a damn word, Aaron, let me just read you the stats against a mighty Arizona Cardinals defense so formidable and nobody can name their cornerbacks. Buddha Baker in the secondary, that's it. Rogers twenty two of thirty five for one hundred and fifty one yards four point three yards per attempt. That is the literal definition of dink and dunk. Okay sack three times, no touchdown. His longest completion was for fifteen yards. I heard a stat during the broadcast. I didn't follow up to see if there were any others, but I don't think there were. On passes over ten yards, Aaron Rodgers was zero for three. Now, next gen stats later this morning will have the throws. But bottom line is like Aaron Rodgers was not accurate on short passes, which should be automatic layups. Nobody's open. I'm sure he's gonna complain. DeVante Adams had thirteen targets. He got six of them for thirty one yards. What are we doing? The Jets got humiliated in Arizona. Their season is over. They're three and seven. Two of the wins are on Thursday Night football. I mean they missed twenty tackles. I don't know if you guys saw that stat. Twenty tackles season high in the NFL this year. Going to one of the Jets beat writers, the Jets had two hundred and seven yards of offense. They were zero for three in the red zone. This could have been an absolute bloodbath, but the Jets waved the white flag in the third quarter, down thirty one six in Arizona's like, okay, fine, we'll just run the football the rest of the way. We don't even want to put my ledge on Connor. We're just gonna hand it to Trey Benson and De Mercado and DJ Dallas. You know, don't you know? That's how much of a laugh for this was.

Now.

I don't think Arizona's very good rob has some deep thoughts on them. Something's going on with them. Where they did not allow any second half points to the Jets, they did not allow any second half points to the Bears. I believe against the Lions earlier this season, they did not allow any second half points. Like, something's going on. I cannot really quantify it because I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm not that familiar with a lot of these defenders on the Cardinals. Now, Zavin Collins was a draft pick who was headed toward bust under their last coach. He seems to have turned it around. Because you're white, solid player, Buddha Baca. We all know, but like, there's not a lot of blue chip prospects on this team, and they shut the Jets down badly. Now, Kyler Murray, you know, unbelievable accuracy. I think he set a franchise record for consecutive passes completed. The Jets just they stink, and I'm glad it's over because we can turn the page. I'm one of these guys who quickly is like, Okay, they lost, sees it over, what's next. I don't want to do any more of an autopsy on this Jets season. The only autopsy and forensic evidence I want is whose contracts are up? And how the hell can we move on? So the soccer team I own in Mexico their season finale with Sunday brutal zero zero draw to end the season. Listen, man, we were good that we have the most talent we ever had, and then all of a sudden, the last like eight weeks just could not do anything. It was terrible, the coach got dumped, and now season over. I want to get right into it all right, whose contracts are up?

Is this?

You know we have our two stars, they're coming back. But what other moves can we make?

Who can we get off?

How can we quickly turn this around? I don't want to dwell on the negative past. I want to look forward and solve things. Everybody knows the freaking problems. The Jets defense is overrated. Aaron Rodgers stinks they have no offensive identity. The team doesn't have a philosophy. We just talked about the Chargers and what they are. You turn on the Jets. I don't know what are They supposed to be a run team? Right? Drafted offensive tackle even though you got three new offensive linemen and free agency, she gonna be your run team right now? No, let's be a pass team. Okay, let's go get to Vonda Adams. Well, okay, and now Aaron Rodgers thinks Mike Williams couldn't run around to save his frickin' life. Okay, goes to the Steelers and catches a game winning touchdown pass. He played nine snaps, folks. Instantly, the Steelers said, this is what Mike Williams does. He can run straight line and we're just gonna throw him jump balls. That's what he's gonna do. The Jets are trotting him out there and putting him in all these other spots. Nothing worked. Steelers play him nine snaps. He just arrived at the facility. I don't even know if he has a locker. They probably were like, oh yeah, this was the Deevin name tag. This is yours, go go. Like guy played nine snaps. He catches a game winning touchdown pass from Russell Wilson. Couldn't do anything with the Jets, Like they don't know what they are or where they're going. And I'm just telling you right now, like they're not gonna be able to get a good coach. If Aaron Rodgers is still on this roster now, I don't care what the dead cat money is. Get him the hell out, just say, hey man, thanks a lot, We're gonna go in another direction. But who's gonna tell him? And I started this rare, like you gotta check these guys. Oh, Brick ain't doing it. The GM had no say, rob none in the firing of Salah. The GM had no say in the acquisition of Aaron Rodgers. The GM is toothless. Sure, great, you nail some fifth round draft picks, wonderful, congrats, good job. Can you nail a quarterback? Because you missed on Zach Wilson and you missed on Machai Becton badly. That set us back. So like the only person who can step up and do this is Whatdy Johnson. And we know this loser who's never done anything with the Jets ain't gonna do. Ain't gonna be the man to who went groveling to Aaron Rodgers to come to the Jets, please come, and then he's gonna run him out like it's just a mess and a disaster. I really am done with this team, Rob, I don't want to talk about them win and lose, but go ahead, go off.

Well, I'm just as upset as you are because again, this was my team for the season. Like, I don't know how you go through this year in and year out, Like it's one thing to be a f of the Raiders like I normally am. And you know the team stinks coming in, so your expectations are lowered. So if they win six, seven, eight, nine games, you're feeling great about yourself. The Jets came in with legitimate Super Bowl aspirations. I didn't pick them to make the Super Bowl out of nowhere. Aaron Rodgers said himself, there's only about eight teams in the league who have a legitimate chance to win the Super Bowl. We're one of those eight teams.

He said that.

He did say that in the offseason. Yeah, how has that worked out for us? Aaron, Like you mentioned the defense, which to me is the most disappointing part, because my reason for being so high on the Jets coming in was I wasn't sure what Roger was going to do off the Achilles, but I figured at a minimum, he could ride a strong defense a la Tom Brady and Tampa where he gets his feet underneath them sometime around Halloween or you know, first week basically around now of the season and they kind of round in a form. They start off, you know, five and three, four and four, and then he goes on a little bit of a tear. But this defense is terrible. Like, I don't care what the you know, advanced metrics say watching them play football, they don't tackle. Well, you mentioned they missed twenty on Sunday. They don't rush the passer. Well, they don't get sacks. I don't know how that's possible given some of the talent they have there on the front seven, and their secondary doesn't create turnovers. So it's like, what exactly do you do? Well? Is it you play prevent? You just prevent touchdowns? And that's kind of your claim to fame that you can keep a game close. But now you got to a point where that's not even happening. They're getting their doors blown off, you know, every other week, it seems like. And then offensively, Aaron Rodgers, it's just it's time to hang it up the point play period. It's it's physically he's obviously interiortd. You can tell by watching. It doesn't move the way he used to. His accuracy, which used to be his trademark, is just not what it used to be. He's only throwing interceptions, which Aaron Rodgers never threw interceptions at the peak of his powers. But now you have Davante Adams saying on Sunday after the game that part of his role on the team is to quote work with him talking about Rogers to make sure he keeps his mind right as much as possible because it's tough. Like, so, what is it that you do here, Aaron, You're not winning with your right shoulder, and you're not winning by galvanizing the rest of the team. He's made a point to say multiple times over the last few weeks, we have an energy problem. We can't get up for these games. We start off sluggish and it's very lethargic, and that's why we don't play with it. Yeah, like my brother, you are the quarterback, they go as you go. You say that to any team like you are not Daniel Jones. There's a reason why that team doesn't score because nobody leaves in the quarterback like it's pretty standley, Daniel Jones, you know exactly. Patrick Mahomes, who was having a very down year by his standards, he's been a mediocre quarterback statistically. When have you ever heard him or the Chiefs say, yeah, you know, we're coming out lethargic, we're lacking energy. No, because he's the emotional leader of that team. Aaron Rodgers emotions are mopi and he's an enigma and he's only worried about himself and his next McAfee hit. It seems like more than he is about getting his team is ready to play football. Oh the McAfee hits. I forgot about this all right.

I just was able to It looks like next gen stats. Rob has done the update on Aaron Rodgers. So passes over fifteen yards against the mighty Arizona defense. Rodgers zero for four passes ten yards or more one of six. Bro, you gotta get him out of town. I can't deal with this.

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A fun Sunday in the book, Rob. I do quickly want to touch on Rams Dolphins because there is some scuttle but that Tyreek Hill is not definitely a go. Something happened in practice. I don't know how serious the injury is, but they were shutting him down at practice, so hopefully he could play. I haven't seen any latest updates on Tyreek Hill, but I will say I am on the Rams here, not significantly, but I do think the Rams show up was just one of your beats.

Well, you know what's funny is I had Tua as my spots starter in fantasy, you know, because Jordan Love is on the bye week, so I was gonna roll with him until the Tyreek news came out. I believe it's on Thursday, so I pivoted, and when with Russell Wilson, it worked out. You know, Okay, I would say, so it worked out. But the fact that we don't know if Tyreek's gonna play to me makes this where, you know, I know this is the best that segment, but I'm not touching this one.

Yeah.

He is that much of a difference maker for Miami that I would not feel comfortable betting either side of this game, even on the total, because him alone is to me worth like three points. He's the equivalent. He's the equivalent of a quarterback in today's NFL. So this is one where I'm sitting out. I'll let you bet it. If I'm gonna make anything. Maybe I'm taking some player props on Cooper Cup Puukunakua. I think both of those guys can kind of hit their overs on their props. But as far as the game itself. I'm sending this one out.

I had to look this up. So Tyreek Hill has I mean, I'm sure he's gonna go tonight. He's gonna definitely want to go. He has been to Sofi Stadium four times in his career. Let's just say he likes the turf. There was a game I think it was last year, might have been the season opening where he lit the Chargers up eleven for two fifteen and two touchdowns. The game before that at Sofi in twenty twenty two four for eighty one and a tuddy twenty twenty one twelve for one forty eight and a touchdown, and in twenty twenty five for ninety nine in a score. The Rams secondary is not great. The Rams pass rush has improved. I'm not feeling overwhelmingly like the Rams of the side. If Tyreek's out there, obviously, I think this would probably bump up to Rams minus two and a half or three. I think Tyreek is that worth that much because other than that, like, Okay, Jalen Wattle is sure like he's just not as explosive as Tyreek Hill. Wattle's good, but he's been total crap for me in fantasy this year. And then this is what gets interesting. The Rams win this and all of a sudden it's like, oh, here we go, Rams, potential playoff team. The problem, Rob is, I don't know who drops out yet, because the Vikings, even though they haven't been impressive, continue to win. They're seven and two. I think we both agreed. Detroit and Philly are locks. Washington at seven and three, but they have a huge one with Philly Thursday night. And then there's Green Bays lurking. Arizona's still pretty good, you know. San Francisco and I'll just be brief on San Francisco, folks. That should have been one of the easiest of the season in the win over Tampa, and they barely got by. Why well because their kicker, Jake Moody missed three field goals. Okay, the special teams for San Frand's disaster. They dropped a punt which they were rolling in that game. Okay, then they drop a punt and Tampa scores, and now it's oh, it's a game on and then Moody misses again. Forty nine ers out gained Tampa by two hundred yards two football fields guys six point eight yards were played. The Niners mode up and down the field, and I don't know if you saw this, rob, but I put it on my Instagram stories. So Deebo was so pissed at the kicker after his third miss that he was like jawing with the kicker and the snapholder. I forget the guy's name, but Deebo basically like not chokes or punches, but like pushes in the throat area, and Moody and the other guy like are like what the hell surging back at Debo, and I love how Debo handled it. Afterwards, He's like, you know, I was disappointed. I got a lot my mind, like you don't expect your kicker to miss three field goals. Of course, as was my Sunday, I also had the Falcons and Young Wayku also missed three field goals, so I probably would have been Deebo nearly choking him out. But the Niners were definitely the side. This is crazy. Baker Mayfield had one hundred and sixteen yards passing. Their leading receiver was Rashad White with thirty nine yards. Yeah, that's the running back. They had nothing. The Niners blow them out in that game nine times out of ten, and this was the one that was closed. I'll say this, the Baker play where Joey Bosas hanging on his arm on fourth down and Baker still completes the pass is one of the top five most impressive things I've seen this season. Bosa hanging literally grabbing and trying to drag him down and Baker just wouldn't go down. Rob that, I mean, I don't know if you saw that, but it was unbelieved. I was just like, how strong is Baker? I mean, Bosa, this is fourth in ballgame and Baker was able to hold him off. I was I was unbelieved. I was in awe.

Yeah, that play was incredible, and as as great as it was, I'm not taking anythingway from Baker. Part of me does feel like though that that was one of those situations where the Deposa was so worried about a penalty. Oh yeah, and he's like, I'm not gonna do anything crazy. We have the one in the bag. He's gonna throw a wobbler and it's gonna be fourth. It's the end of the game because it's fourth down, and Baker holds him off with his left and throws a dart to Rashad White to keep their hopes alive, and it was. It was a great play that And and to me, the uh Anthony richardson week one off his back foot like seventy yards too. I think it was Alec Pierce. We're two of the best throws I've seen this season. That just right, I remember watching them. They were that good.

Yeah. Well, I'll roll the dice with the Rams. Yeah, I mean, I listen, this week's this coming week's games are freaking awesome. We may do some NBA. I don't know if you guys saw this Lakers big win on Sunday, Paul George stinking up the joint. I don't know if it were officially booze, but they're on with him. The Warriors continue to make me and Rob look like freaking idiots. Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant's now out for what three weeks? John Rants now injured. I don't know how long he's out. Jokich has turned it around. NBA has just been crazy, and I have my I'm just gonna give my first college basketball bet of the season. It's it's tonight. It's Notre Dame minus twenty two. Okay, now, that you've subsided, laughing Jason minus twenty two. Yes, there you have it. All right, that's it for a long Monday podcast. We are back tomorrow, full recap, obviously of Rams, Dolphins and probably digging us some NBA college football, Georgia lost, Carson Beck, bum City, Ah, the sports they are good. Talk to you tomorrow