In the fall of 2020, Grand Rapids resident Isaac Danian, made plans to escape the U.S. at the behest of an online conspiracy theorist. He was joined by Shukree Abdul-Rashed from upstate New York. Their journey ended with the two men lost at sea in the South Pacific, while their families still wait for answers. We talked to the journalist who investigated the men's disappearance for the New York Times.

GUEST: 

David Wolman, freelance journalist and contributing editor at Outside. Read Wolman's story "Set Adrift" here.

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Music in this episode by Blue Dot Sessions.

In the fall of 2020, Grand Rapids resident Isaac Danian, made plans to escape the U.S. at the behest of an online conspiracy theorist. He was joined by Shukree Abdul-Rashed from upstate New York. Their journey ended with the two men lost at sea in the South Pacific, while their families still wait for answers. We talked to the journalist who investigated the men's disappearance for the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/11/27/us/set-adrift.html">New York Times.</a>
GUEST: 
David Wolman, freelance journalist and contributing editor at Outside. Read Wolman's story "Set Adrift"<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/11/27/us/set-adrift.html"> here.</a>
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Music in this episode by<a href="https://www.sessions.blue/"> Blue Dot Sessions.</a>

Conversations that matter to Michigan. Each weekday, host April Baer will bring you stories from people across the state—from policymakers in Lansing, to entrepreneurs in Detroit, to artists in Grand Rapids.

To access full episodes and individual story segments, please visit michiganpublic.org.

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Conversations that matter to Michigan. Each weekday, host April Baer will bring you stories from people across the state—from policymakers in Lansing, to entrepreneurs in Detroit, to artists in Grand Rapids.
To access full episodes and individual story segments, please visit <a href="https://www.michiganradio.org/stateside">michiganpublic.org</a>.
If you like what you hear on the pod, consider <a href="http://michiganpublic.org/podfund">supporting our work</a>: michiganradio.org/podfund

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Conversations that matter to Michigan. Each weekday, host April Baer will bring you stories from people across the state—from policymakers in Lansing, to entrepreneurs in Detroit, to artists in Grand Rapids.

To access full episodes and individual story segments, please visit michiganpublic.org.

If you like what you hear on the pod, consider supporting our work: michiganradio.org/podfund

Conversations that matter to Michigan. Each weekday, host April Baer will bring you stories from people across the state—from policymakers in Lansing, to entrepreneurs in Detroit, to artists in Grand Rapids.
To access full episodes and individual story segments, please visit <a href="https://www.michiganradio.org/programs/stateside">michiganpublic.org</a>.
If you like what you hear on the pod, consider <a href="https://bit.ly/3RJN5Ul">supporting our work</a>: michiganradio.org/podfund

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