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We like to hold up America’s wild spaces as equal playgrounds for all, but access to nature isn’t as universal as we’d like to think. Many people of color face major barriers to participating in outdoor activities like camping or hiking. Today on the podcast, we hear about some people that are trying to change that.

GUESTS:

Rhonda Smith, writer for Planet Detroit. You can find Rhonda’s articles about making outdoor recreation more accessible to people of color here.

Antonio Rafael, Detroit environmental activist and director of the Detroit Leadership and Environmental Education Program, an initiative of the National Wildlife Federation's Great Lakes Regional Center.

Looking for more conversations from Stateside? Right this way.

If you like what you hear on the pod, consider supporting our work.

Stateside’s theme music is by 14KT.

Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions.

We like to hold up America&rsquo;s wild spaces as equal playgrounds for all, but access to nature isn&rsquo;t as universal as we&rsquo;d like to think. Many people of color face major barriers to participating in outdoor activities like camping or hiking. Today on the podcast, we hear about some people that are trying to change that.
GUESTS:
Rhonda Smith, writer for Planet Detroit. You can find Rhonda&rsquo;s articles about making outdoor recreation more accessible to people of color <a href="https://planetdetroit.org/author/rhonda-j-smith/">here.</a>
Antonio Rafael, Detroit environmental activist and director of the Detroit Leadership and Environmental Education Program, an initiative of the National Wildlife Federation's Great Lakes Regional Center.
Looking for more conversations from Stateside? <a href="https://www.michiganradio.org/programs/stateside">Right this way</a>.
If you like what you hear on the pod, consider <a href="https://bit.ly/358m02D">supporting our work.</a>
Stateside&rsquo;s theme music is by <a href="https://14kt.bandcamp.com/">14KT.</a>
Additional music by<a href="https://www.sessions.blue/"> Blue Dot Sessions.</a>

Conversations that matter to Michigan. Each weekday, host April Baer will bring you stories from people across the state—from policymakers in Lansing, to entrepreneurs in Detroit, to artists in Grand Rapids.

To access full episodes and individual story segments, please visit michiganpublic.org.

If you like what you hear on the pod, consider supporting our work: michiganradio.org/podfund

Conversations that matter to Michigan. Each weekday, host April Baer will bring you stories from people across the state—from policymakers in Lansing, to entrepreneurs in Detroit, to artists in Grand Rapids.
To access full episodes and individual story segments, please visit <a href="https://www.michiganradio.org/stateside">michiganpublic.org</a>.
If you like what you hear on the pod, consider <a href="http://michiganpublic.org/podfund">supporting our work</a>: michiganradio.org/podfund

Stateside

Conversations that matter to Michigan. Each weekday, host April Baer will bring you stories from people across the state—from policymakers in Lansing, to entrepreneurs in Detroit, to artists in Grand Rapids.

To access full episodes and individual story segments, please visit michiganpublic.org.

If you like what you hear on the pod, consider supporting our work: michiganradio.org/podfund

Conversations that matter to Michigan. Each weekday, host April Baer will bring you stories from people across the state—from policymakers in Lansing, to entrepreneurs in Detroit, to artists in Grand Rapids.
To access full episodes and individual story segments, please visit <a href="https://www.michiganradio.org/programs/stateside">michiganpublic.org</a>.
If you like what you hear on the pod, consider <a href="https://bit.ly/3RJN5Ul">supporting our work</a>: michiganradio.org/podfund

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