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A lot of musicians experience some kind of stage fright. Grand Rapids multi-instrumentalist, Jes Kramer, is no different. But for Jes, there’s a therapeutic quality of performing. While she’s on stage, she practices something called Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing - or EMDR. It’s a psychotherapy tool used to process anxiety and trauma. On today’s pod, we're talking with Jes about how EMDR works, live performance, and maintaining creativity during the pandemic. We’ll also vibe out to some of Jes’s music.

GUESTS:

Jes Kramer, musician

Looking for more conversations from Stateside? Right this way.

If you like what you hear on the pod, consider supporting our work.

Stateside’s theme music is by 14KT.

Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions.

A lot of musicians experience some kind of stage fright. Grand Rapids multi-instrumentalist, Jes Kramer, is no different. But for Jes, there&rsquo;s a therapeutic quality of performing. While she&rsquo;s on stage, she practices something called Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing - or EMDR. It&rsquo;s a psychotherapy tool used to process anxiety and trauma. On today&rsquo;s pod, we're talking with Jes about how EMDR works, live performance, and maintaining creativity during the pandemic. We&rsquo;ll also vibe out to some of Jes&rsquo;s music.
GUESTS:
Jes Kramer, <a href="https://jeskramer.bandcamp.com/">musician</a>
Looking for more conversations from Stateside?<a href="https://www.michiganradio.org/programs/stateside"> Right this way.</a>
If you like what you hear on the pod, consider<a href="https://bit.ly/358m02D"> supporting our work.</a>
Stateside&rsquo;s theme music is by<a href="https://14kt.bandcamp.com/"> 14KT</a>.
Additional music by<a href="https://www.sessions.blue/"> Blue Dot Sessions.</a>

Conversations that matter to Michigan. Each weekday, host April Baer will bring you stories from people across the state—from policymakers in Lansing, to entrepreneurs in Detroit, to artists in Grand Rapids.

To access full episodes and individual story segments, please visit michiganpublic.org.

If you like what you hear on the pod, consider supporting our work: michiganradio.org/podfund

Conversations that matter to Michigan. Each weekday, host April Baer will bring you stories from people across the state—from policymakers in Lansing, to entrepreneurs in Detroit, to artists in Grand Rapids.
To access full episodes and individual story segments, please visit <a href="https://www.michiganradio.org/stateside">michiganpublic.org</a>.
If you like what you hear on the pod, consider <a href="http://michiganpublic.org/podfund">supporting our work</a>: michiganradio.org/podfund

Stateside

Conversations that matter to Michigan. Each weekday, host April Baer will bring you stories from people across the state—from policymakers in Lansing, to entrepreneurs in Detroit, to artists in Grand Rapids.

To access full episodes and individual story segments, please visit michiganpublic.org.

If you like what you hear on the pod, consider supporting our work: michiganradio.org/podfund

Conversations that matter to Michigan. Each weekday, host April Baer will bring you stories from people across the state—from policymakers in Lansing, to entrepreneurs in Detroit, to artists in Grand Rapids.
To access full episodes and individual story segments, please visit <a href="https://www.michiganradio.org/programs/stateside">michiganpublic.org</a>.
If you like what you hear on the pod, consider <a href="https://bit.ly/3RJN5Ul">supporting our work</a>: michiganradio.org/podfund

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