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Oh, my lordie, they made a decision. Good evening. Welcome to sports Talk seven a half seven on Thursday evening, twenty seventh of March. It is twenty twenty five. My name is Darcy Waldegrave. The day I'm speaking of the council in Auckland a Stadium working Group back to somebody, Wow, what does that actually mean though? What were they voting on? What are they backing? What happens next? How much to whom? Who owns Eden Park? Who owns the ground that's built on? We'll find out out more. Stadium Working Group A chair Shane Henderson joins us shortly as we take a we look at the action today in council. I'm going to take your calls, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty to you. Does this represent the most pragmatic, the most sensible decision that can be made around an Auckland stadium or have they made a mess of it? Your thoughts? Be it you from Auckland City or outside, because it is, after all, our national stadium. Okay, don't Know't ring me up and attack me for that one again. We'll get your calls up. After Shane Henderson it joins us shortly. Heath Mills is also on the show, World a Cricketing Association, World Cricketers Association Chair also Boston and you Center Cricket Players Association on the changes, the proposed changes to international cricket. More is the point. They've got a proposal out, big working group that's been looking at this right. This is the problem with international cricket. Who's keen to solve it? So we'll talk about that with Heath Mills later on and the peace. But before Shane, before Heath before, more of me, before you. We got this sport today and in sport today, more fresh blood. The black Caps are said to introduce Reyes Mudu to the fold for the second and third One Day Internationals against Pakistown. Will Young is off on popsail mighty leave, leaving space that Gary Steaders is pleased to be filling with the Young cantad.

Oh, my lordie, they made a decision. Good evening. Welcome to sports Talk seven a half seven on Thursday evening, twenty seventh of March. It is twenty twenty five. My name is Darcy Waldegrave. The day I'm speaking of the council in Auckland a Stadium working Group back to somebody, Wow, what does that actually mean though? What were they voting on? What are they backing? What happens next? How much to whom? Who owns Eden Park? Who owns the ground that's built on? We'll find out out more. Stadium Working Group A chair Shane Henderson joins us shortly as we take a we look at the action today in council. I'm going to take your calls, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty to you. Does this represent the most pragmatic, the most sensible decision that can be made around an Auckland stadium or have they made a mess of it? Your thoughts? Be it you from Auckland City or outside, because it is, after all, our national stadium. Okay, don't Know't ring me up and attack me for that one again. We'll get your calls up. After Shane Henderson it joins us shortly. Heath Mills is also on the show, World a Cricketing Association, World Cricketers Association Chair also Boston and you Center Cricket Players Association on the changes, the proposed changes to international cricket. More is the point. They've got a proposal out, big working group that's been looking at this right. This is the problem with international cricket. Who's keen to solve it? So we'll talk about that with Heath Mills later on and the peace. But before Shane, before Heath before, more of me, before you. We got this sport today and in sport today, more fresh blood. The black Caps are said to introduce Reyes Mudu to the fold for the second and third One Day Internationals against Pakistown. Will Young is off on popsail mighty leave, leaving space that Gary Steaders is pleased to be filling with the Young cantad.

It had an amazing year this year in particular, and I guess we look at it this tour as a little bit of a view to the.

It had an amazing year this year in particular, and I guess we look at it this tour as a little bit of a view to the.

Future as well. We're two and a half years out from the World Cup.

Future as well. We're two and a half years out from the World Cup.

Wise Big Cheese Cameron George has rolled out the expected apology around the actions of assistant coach Richard Aga. The NRL has sanctioned Richard and the club is taking it on the chin or by the throat, a shirt front or something.

Wise Big Cheese Cameron George has rolled out the expected apology around the actions of assistant coach Richard Aga. The NRL has sanctioned Richard and the club is taking it on the chin or by the throat, a shirt front or something.

Richard's very sorry, He's apologized about the incident, understands that it was wrong. It was the right thing to do by the fans of the club the game in general to accept the penalty that was proposed.

Richard's very sorry, He's apologized about the incident, understands that it was wrong. It was the right thing to do by the fans of the club the game in general to accept the penalty that was proposed.

Yeah, if I'd have known I was going to get fined, it would have punched him. No, it's not a paraphrase. I'm sorry, I made that up. Thank you, Andy. And it's all fun in front of him this weekend, he's all means. Number one golfer Ryan Fox has had the practice feels this week next to it though, cash it in on the track.

Yeah, if I'd have known I was going to get fined, it would have punched him. No, it's not a paraphrase. I'm sorry, I made that up. Thank you, Andy. And it's all fun in front of him this weekend, he's all means. Number one golfer Ryan Fox has had the practice feels this week next to it though, cash it in on the track.

A lot can change in.

A lot can change in.

A week in golf, and I'm certainly hoping that happens to me this week.

A week in golf, and I'm certainly hoping that happens to me this week.

It's starting to feel pretty good on the range and pretty good in practice.

It's starting to feel pretty good on the range and pretty good in practice.

I've just got to take it out into tournament golf mode, and sometimes that's easy.

I've just got to take it out into tournament golf mode, and sometimes that's easy.

To said than done.

To said than done.

Houston Open teas up overnight and plenty of agents contract Cruss. He has affirmly trained on Minor Pacifika's new star Hi and Talmoy Fla, scoring tries and breaking lines that will means all eyes are on him at coach Tunnell straight up when asked the question, have other clubs circled the young winger?

Houston Open teas up overnight and plenty of agents contract Cruss. He has affirmly trained on Minor Pacifika's new star Hi and Talmoy Fla, scoring tries and breaking lines that will means all eyes are on him at coach Tunnell straight up when asked the question, have other clubs circled the young winger?

Yep, and that's again you know, look for us, that's all we can do. We provide a platform and then you know the players have the opportunities that they work for and love worked for it.

Yep, and that's again you know, look for us, that's all we can do. We provide a platform and then you know the players have the opportunities that they work for and love worked for it.

Yep, you're like that from ah umagah and that's sport today. It's eleven past seven. Stadium talk. It never goes away. It's a recurring nightmare for everyone in and around Auckland. They're still finding consortiums and people's garden sheds. The list goes on. But finally the Stadium Working Group today of the Council and said, you know what, we're given the thumbs up to Eden Park two point one. What does that actually mean? Stadium Working Group chair Shane Henderson joins us. Now evening, mate, Yeah, good evening. Huge day in the story, the long running saga of all Auckland stadia. First up, i'd like you to explain to us and the listeners out there what exactly you were voting on.

Yep, you're like that from ah umagah and that's sport today. It's eleven past seven. Stadium talk. It never goes away. It's a recurring nightmare for everyone in and around Auckland. They're still finding consortiums and people's garden sheds. The list goes on. But finally the Stadium Working Group today of the Council and said, you know what, we're given the thumbs up to Eden Park two point one. What does that actually mean? Stadium Working Group chair Shane Henderson joins us. Now evening, mate, Yeah, good evening. Huge day in the story, the long running saga of all Auckland stadia. First up, i'd like you to explain to us and the listeners out there what exactly you were voting on.

Yes, I think a great day for the city.

Yes, I think a great day for the city.

So councilor is voted by a majority of seventeen to two to endorse Eden Park is essentially our choice as a city for the national stadium for Auckland, and that carries I think strong kind of advocacy. Wait for that trust to raise some money with either central government or private partners or both, safe in the knowledge that we're backing them to the hell right.

So councilor is voted by a majority of seventeen to two to endorse Eden Park is essentially our choice as a city for the national stadium for Auckland, and that carries I think strong kind of advocacy. Wait for that trust to raise some money with either central government or private partners or both, safe in the knowledge that we're backing them to the hell right.

So advocacy, this is what it's all about. You don't actually have a huge amount of say about finance, about ownership of land, about anything. It's just you saying the Auckland Council like this idea, will back it.

So advocacy, this is what it's all about. You don't actually have a huge amount of say about finance, about ownership of land, about anything. It's just you saying the Auckland Council like this idea, will back it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, it's a signal to the market, isn't it that you can confidently partner with these guys and it'll pass muster and we want to back it in any way that we can kind of do from that kind of political standpoint.

Well, it's a signal to the market, isn't it that you can confidently partner with these guys and it'll pass muster and we want to back it in any way that we can kind of do from that kind of political standpoint.

So what do you base that on.

So what do you base that on.

Well, we've done a two year process of identifying bids for a national stadium. We ended up with four and then recently we voted that down to two, and then today we voted that down to one. So look, it's been a long process, but I think a really thorough one and a really exciting one.

Well, we've done a two year process of identifying bids for a national stadium. We ended up with four and then recently we voted that down to two, and then today we voted that down to one. So look, it's been a long process, but I think a really thorough one and a really exciting one.

It was dominant, wasn't it eden Park? They rolled right over top of everybody else. Why do you think that was the case, Shane.

It was dominant, wasn't it eden Park? They rolled right over top of everybody else. Why do you think that was the case, Shane.

Well, I think ultimately we had a report with some staff advice that said, look, both bids that we're dealing with had some issues, but eden Park had significantly less issues, and their main issue is actually finding the money right and without our sort of voice, I think that can really help them along in that quest. So they didn't have much in the way of technical problems or anything kind of that.

Well, I think ultimately we had a report with some staff advice that said, look, both bids that we're dealing with had some issues, but eden Park had significantly less issues, and their main issue is actually finding the money right and without our sort of voice, I think that can really help them along in that quest. So they didn't have much in the way of technical problems or anything kind of that.

They're kind of a plug and play option there, you.

They're kind of a plug and play option there, you.

Say plug and play, So simplicity is a key to this whole engagement, and I'm presuming with simplicity becomes speed of completion.

Say plug and play, So simplicity is a key to this whole engagement, and I'm presuming with simplicity becomes speed of completion.

Yeah, one hundred percent, and speed of completion obviously will result from kind of fine. But I think the key point here is that we want to compete for the best events within.

Yeah, one hundred percent, and speed of completion obviously will result from kind of fine. But I think the key point here is that we want to compete for the best events within.

The entire Asia Pacific region.

The entire Asia Pacific region.

So we're not competing against Wellington and christ Church, We're competing against Australia and Asia to attract some of the best events that we can and you know, we do need some redevelopment to do that, and I'm glad that we've backed that in today.

So we're not competing against Wellington and christ Church, We're competing against Australia and Asia to attract some of the best events that we can and you know, we do need some redevelopment to do that, and I'm glad that we've backed that in today.

So when you look at the future, because there's a first step there one hundred and ten million bucks to that. So we'll talk about the minute. Then there's a second step, then there's a third step. What you're saying is the council are behind each step. They're not going to drag any of the propositions down. We have to re challenge that this is for the whole completed shebang.

So when you look at the future, because there's a first step there one hundred and ten million bucks to that. So we'll talk about the minute. Then there's a second step, then there's a third step. What you're saying is the council are behind each step. They're not going to drag any of the propositions down. We have to re challenge that this is for the whole completed shebang.

Yeah, and those stages are obviously ordered right. So Stage one is the most vital one, and that will be to turn Eden Park, you know famously having its challenges with a short straight boundary, which helped us a hell of a lot in the twenty fifteen World Cup. But that will turn that they can have retractable seating so they can turn that essentially into a cricket ground as.

Yeah, and those stages are obviously ordered right. So Stage one is the most vital one, and that will be to turn Eden Park, you know famously having its challenges with a short straight boundary, which helped us a hell of a lot in the twenty fifteen World Cup. But that will turn that they can have retractable seating so they can turn that essentially into a cricket ground as.

Well a proper one that's ICCM.

Well a proper one that's ICCM.

So that's number one stage and I think a really exciting one for the city. In the future, they'll be looking at various kinds of remodeling to make it fit for purpose as well, but that's the first one to get off the ground.

So that's number one stage and I think a really exciting one for the city. In the future, they'll be looking at various kinds of remodeling to make it fit for purpose as well, but that's the first one to get off the ground.

So sport's a huge part of this, joined by Counselor Shane Henderson, plainly because it's where the rugby and it looks like where the cricket is going to be. It's a very important part of it. But what kind of percentage and when it comes to general entertainment we're talking things outside of sports, like, for example, concerts. How much did that sway the decision that the council will back this?

So sport's a huge part of this, joined by Counselor Shane Henderson, plainly because it's where the rugby and it looks like where the cricket is going to be. It's a very important part of it. But what kind of percentage and when it comes to general entertainment we're talking things outside of sports, like, for example, concerts. How much did that sway the decision that the council will back this?

Yeah, Look, I think you're right.

Yeah, Look, I think you're right.

The focus on sport has been quite a fixation for the city and I think in the past for council as well. But you know, in the modern world, concerts are becoming bigger and bigger deals and creating more and more revenue, and some of these world too is absolutely amazing these days, and so we need to be focusing on concerts as well, but also kind of more day to day things like cultural events that Alkinders really get behind as well. So it's a bigger picture than just sport. But that's we're a sport mad city, so we're obviously going to talk about that as well.

The focus on sport has been quite a fixation for the city and I think in the past for council as well. But you know, in the modern world, concerts are becoming bigger and bigger deals and creating more and more revenue, and some of these world too is absolutely amazing these days, and so we need to be focusing on concerts as well, but also kind of more day to day things like cultural events that Alkinders really get behind as well. So it's a bigger picture than just sport. But that's we're a sport mad city, so we're obviously going to talk about that as well.

You've got no money, I mean, only anyone's got any money quite frankly, Shane, So you're not going to give them anything. And where are they going to get the one hundred and ten million dollars from? You confident they can pick that up from somewhere. The government going to come to the party.

You've got no money, I mean, only anyone's got any money quite frankly, Shane, So you're not going to give them anything. And where are they going to get the one hundred and ten million dollars from? You confident they can pick that up from somewhere. The government going to come to the party.

I reckon they're well, I'm confident and I reckon they can pick that up somehow, because you know they'll be looking to partner with fire the central government or private investment or both. Cret's a really attractive proposition for economic development and growth in our economy in the city. I mean, if we want to be a culture of yes, then this is an off the shelf option to kind of demonstrate that.

I reckon they're well, I'm confident and I reckon they can pick that up somehow, because you know they'll be looking to partner with fire the central government or private investment or both. Cret's a really attractive proposition for economic development and growth in our economy in the city. I mean, if we want to be a culture of yes, then this is an off the shelf option to kind of demonstrate that.

If you want to be a culture of yes, people would suggest you went for the big bad option, which is tetong Roa. This is advancing the course. I know, pro Key Park go, this is the future, this is modern, this is uplifting, and they would say Eden Park is a relic of the future. It's basically just adding to someone you're playing les, what do you say to that you can see the point behind that?

If you want to be a culture of yes, people would suggest you went for the big bad option, which is tetong Roa. This is advancing the course. I know, pro Key Park go, this is the future, this is modern, this is uplifting, and they would say Eden Park is a relic of the future. It's basically just adding to someone you're playing les, what do you say to that you can see the point behind that?

One can'tja, I can see the point behind that, because you know, I think nearly every Aucklander has really strong opinions on stadiums, and they tend to break very evenly in my experience, certainly with my friends and family. But yeah, and people did want us to look at a central city option, for sure, and I think they came back with something that was fantastic, but there were some key issues in terms of its feasibility that we ultimately just couldn't look past. And so look, I respect different opinions. Yeah, look at it's not just a finance thing, although they certainly had sort of some financial challenges as well as did Eden Park. But look, they have some technical issues down there in terms of kind of reordering the city, and it's a fairly small site getting people around it in terms of transport.

One can'tja, I can see the point behind that, because you know, I think nearly every Aucklander has really strong opinions on stadiums, and they tend to break very evenly in my experience, certainly with my friends and family. But yeah, and people did want us to look at a central city option, for sure, and I think they came back with something that was fantastic, but there were some key issues in terms of its feasibility that we ultimately just couldn't look past. And so look, I respect different opinions. Yeah, look at it's not just a finance thing, although they certainly had sort of some financial challenges as well as did Eden Park. But look, they have some technical issues down there in terms of kind of reordering the city, and it's a fairly small site getting people around it in terms of transport.

There's a few different issues there.

There's a few different issues there.

In terms of the technicalities of what they wanted to do. Look, I back any development they can do down there. I think it's as part.

In terms of the technicalities of what they wanted to do. Look, I back any development they can do down there. I think it's as part.

Of the city that really needs to be unlocked, but it's got to be fit for purpose as well.

Of the city that really needs to be unlocked, but it's got to be fit for purpose as well.

Is this curtains do you think for a waterfront stadium? This has been a pipe dream of auckland Is, as you said, for decades, and people are tired of consortiums turning out promising everything and nothing ever happening. Is this the death knell?

Is this curtains do you think for a waterfront stadium? This has been a pipe dream of auckland Is, as you said, for decades, and people are tired of consortiums turning out promising everything and nothing ever happening. Is this the death knell?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Look, I think one of the purposes of this exercise is to be really clear where Auckland Council and by extension, Auckland is Land on this question.

Look, I think one of the purposes of this exercise is to be really clear where Auckland Council and by extension, Auckland is Land on this question.

And so therefore you know who knows.

And so therefore you know who knows.

I mean, they can develop things, if they can make it work, then there's nothing actually stopping them doing that.

I mean, they can develop things, if they can make it work, then there's nothing actually stopping them doing that.

So in a way it's kind of not over.

So in a way it's kind of not over.

But I think it's a really clear stake in the ground that we have a preferred partner that we want to work with.

But I think it's a really clear stake in the ground that we have a preferred partner that we want to work with.

Tell us about the ownership of eden Park, not only the stadium itself but the ground it sits upon. This has been problematic in the past. Does this represent future issues?

Tell us about the ownership of eden Park, not only the stadium itself but the ground it sits upon. This has been problematic in the past. Does this represent future issues?

Yeah, Look, it's always been a little bit of a sticking point in all of these stadium debates.

Yeah, Look, it's always been a little bit of a sticking point in all of these stadium debates.

Right.

Right.

So Eden Park Trust technically not owned by the council. It's owned by a charitable trust that has a Crown appointees that's got to each from Auckland Rugby Union in Auckland cricket and so it's owned essentially by a private trust and so that becomes a bit of an issue when we're talking about public stadiums around the council table, So you know.

So Eden Park Trust technically not owned by the council. It's owned by a charitable trust that has a Crown appointees that's got to each from Auckland Rugby Union in Auckland cricket and so it's owned essentially by a private trust and so that becomes a bit of an issue when we're talking about public stadiums around the council table, So you know.

We appreciate that.

We appreciate that.

But at the same time, through this process, we've been working with their team and I think we've got full confidence that they can do this to the best of their ability, and I think it's great expertise.

But at the same time, through this process, we've been working with their team and I think we've got full confidence that they can do this to the best of their ability, and I think it's great expertise.

There, so it can be overcome this kind of piecemeal ownership situation. You don't see that as being a roadblock or something gets sticks in the throat of the development of this in the future, because are you relying on goodwill here?

There, so it can be overcome this kind of piecemeal ownership situation. You don't see that as being a roadblock or something gets sticks in the throat of the development of this in the future, because are you relying on goodwill here?

Yeah, Look, I'm not too concerned about kind of the ownership structure.

Yeah, Look, I'm not too concerned about kind of the ownership structure.

I think we need to zoom out and be a bit more visionary.

I think we need to zoom out and be a bit more visionary.

And the fact is we've already got a stadium there that we can redevelop to make it certainly a modern, world class national stadium that can attract these big events.

And the fact is we've already got a stadium there that we can redevelop to make it certainly a modern, world class national stadium that can attract these big events.

I think it's sensible to look at utilizing it.

I think it's sensible to look at utilizing it.

And finally, our counselor Shane Henderson, thanks as always for your time. Will will this be the national stadium of New Zealand, just not of Auckland.

And finally, our counselor Shane Henderson, thanks as always for your time. Will will this be the national stadium of New Zealand, just not of Auckland.

Yeah, of course, I mean Auckland produces over a third of the country's GDP one point seven million people. We've got the market here and we can scale up and really take on the world.

Yeah, of course, I mean Auckland produces over a third of the country's GDP one point seven million people. We've got the market here and we can scale up and really take on the world.

I think it's a great day for the city.

I think it's a great day for the city.

Right, So it's all go you. Basically you've hit the green light. That's happening Eden Parker, is it and that's what we're looking for in the future. Yeah, and so I may have said this before, but timescale will when you're looking at the first one to be complete and how long before the whole should be.

Right, So it's all go you. Basically you've hit the green light. That's happening Eden Parker, is it and that's what we're looking for in the future. Yeah, and so I may have said this before, but timescale will when you're looking at the first one to be complete and how long before the whole should be.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Look, we've got some indicative time scales from the trust. They're looking at sort of a matter of I'm trying to remember it's been a long council meeting, but something like three to five years I think is the indication. But that's going to be heavily dependent on finance, so they think that is a very rough indication.

Look, we've got some indicative time scales from the trust. They're looking at sort of a matter of I'm trying to remember it's been a long council meeting, but something like three to five years I think is the indication. But that's going to be heavily dependent on finance, so they think that is a very rough indication.

Forget the riff's call, you make the call. On eighty eight.

Forget the riff's call, you make the call. On eighty eight.

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Is a Stadium Working Group chair Shane Henderson talking about today's decision for the council to back Eden Park two point one, et cetera for the new stadium here and Auckland leaving to Tongloroa. That's a key park to swim by itself. As Shane did say that they're quite welcome to go ahead and do something, but our preferred partner is here in Eden Park. I think that the Thong Rolla would be incredible, but I also think it's an absolute pipe dream. Auckland at the moment, struggled to put up an apartment block without it's stopping halfway through and sit near crane's hanging off for six months when we tried to get rid of the viaduct that went over Victoria Park, what'll we do while we stick half of it under the ground and then went ah, and that's costing a bit much. We'll leave the other half up achieve nothing. I don't know about you, but I've got a little or no faith in whatever consortium it is to build something as impressive as the thing oh without going ridiculously overpriced and relying on hedge funds, relying on overseas investment. I think we've seen that fail before. So for me, this is a pragmatic decision. As much as I want a brand new, shiny, amazing toy to go plan, this makes sense. It's not as expensive, it's a part, it's already there. The city rail Link's going to make ease of access quite something else. I'll schmick it up. And people say pig on a lipstick, lipstick on a pig on a lipstick? Where that come from? Lipstick on a pig? Is it really a pig? I don't know about yourself. I'd some of the best sporting times of my life at Eden Park.

Is a Stadium Working Group chair Shane Henderson talking about today's decision for the council to back Eden Park two point one, et cetera for the new stadium here and Auckland leaving to Tongloroa. That's a key park to swim by itself. As Shane did say that they're quite welcome to go ahead and do something, but our preferred partner is here in Eden Park. I think that the Thong Rolla would be incredible, but I also think it's an absolute pipe dream. Auckland at the moment, struggled to put up an apartment block without it's stopping halfway through and sit near crane's hanging off for six months when we tried to get rid of the viaduct that went over Victoria Park, what'll we do while we stick half of it under the ground and then went ah, and that's costing a bit much. We'll leave the other half up achieve nothing. I don't know about you, but I've got a little or no faith in whatever consortium it is to build something as impressive as the thing oh without going ridiculously overpriced and relying on hedge funds, relying on overseas investment. I think we've seen that fail before. So for me, this is a pragmatic decision. As much as I want a brand new, shiny, amazing toy to go plan, this makes sense. It's not as expensive, it's a part, it's already there. The city rail Link's going to make ease of access quite something else. I'll schmick it up. And people say pig on a lipstick, lipstick on a pig on a lipstick? Where that come from? Lipstick on a pig? Is it really a pig? I don't know about yourself. I'd some of the best sporting times of my life at Eden Park.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's not brand new and shiny, but it's there, it's working, it's available, and while we can rebuild it, we can make it look better. Gee, it's improved a lot since when I first moved up at twenty five years ago. I think this makes sense. How far it goes, well, that's another story. What do you think L eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Is this the right decision to back Eden Park over a brand new stadium?

It's not brand new and shiny, but it's there, it's working, it's available, and while we can rebuild it, we can make it look better. Gee, it's improved a lot since when I first moved up at twenty five years ago. I think this makes sense. How far it goes, well, that's another story. What do you think L eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Is this the right decision to back Eden Park over a brand new stadium?

Steve Gooday mate? I suppose. The way I look at it is like it's like organ council going out to dinner with me and we basically sit down to eat something and I get a plate and that's got a bullshit sandwich on it.

Steve Gooday mate? I suppose. The way I look at it is like it's like organ council going out to dinner with me and we basically sit down to eat something and I get a plate and that's got a bullshit sandwich on it.

So do you eat a sandwich?

So do you eat a sandwich?

No?

No?

You know, the more bread you've got, the less excrement you'll actually eat or you'll think you're eating. It can be masked amazingly by money. Yes, yes, you don't like this idea, Steve, you know what's the main drive behind your distaste?

You know, the more bread you've got, the less excrement you'll actually eat or you'll think you're eating. It can be masked amazingly by money. Yes, yes, you don't like this idea, Steve, you know what's the main drive behind your distaste?

Well, at the end of the day, what's going to happen, And it has happened. You'd see it in Western Springs and what you'll find is we have this really really flash venue for people to go to and they'll say, oh, sorry, we have to be out by ten o'clock because the neighbors don't like the noise, or there's too much lights, or there's too much traffic. It's just it's just a dumb ass move.

Well, at the end of the day, what's going to happen, And it has happened. You'd see it in Western Springs and what you'll find is we have this really really flash venue for people to go to and they'll say, oh, sorry, we have to be out by ten o'clock because the neighbors don't like the noise, or there's too much lights, or there's too much traffic. It's just it's just a dumb ass move.

If you believe the Eden Park folk, led by Nick Sawt, who's the CEO there, ninety seven percent of the people in and around eden Park wanted to grow. They don't care. It's just the three percent that don't that are very, very loud, And I suppose we look at majority rules. That is their research anyway, So is there that much opposite? I know Helen Clark's making a lot of noise. She wants to go down to the waterfront because she doesn't like the idea of the interruption and she's a prominent figure, so people listen to her. But is he really reflective of what goes on in that area? Yeah?

If you believe the Eden Park folk, led by Nick Sawt, who's the CEO there, ninety seven percent of the people in and around eden Park wanted to grow. They don't care. It's just the three percent that don't that are very, very loud, And I suppose we look at majority rules. That is their research anyway, So is there that much opposite? I know Helen Clark's making a lot of noise. She wants to go down to the waterfront because she doesn't like the idea of the interruption and she's a prominent figure, so people listen to her. But is he really reflective of what goes on in that area? Yeah?

But right, Well, historically we let the wag the dog. That's that. That's how we're basically been up to now, and that's that's been the issue. Now if we can get around that, yeah great, But just going on his story, I just can't see it happening.

But right, Well, historically we let the wag the dog. That's that. That's how we're basically been up to now, and that's that's been the issue. Now if we can get around that, yeah great, But just going on his story, I just can't see it happening.

Right, So what has Look, I'm not I'm not saying you're wrong, we're trying to push you down, but so what what actually happens? Do we maintain the state of flux and nothing happens ever, or do we make some decision whichever way it goes and run with it.

Right, So what has Look, I'm not I'm not saying you're wrong, we're trying to push you down, but so what what actually happens? Do we maintain the state of flux and nothing happens ever, or do we make some decision whichever way it goes and run with it.

Well, what why can't we just say, okay, well we're going to make a decision, we're going to build something on the waterfront and all that land that were basically got at Eden Park. On my grate to people shutting off for.

Well, what why can't we just say, okay, well we're going to make a decision, we're going to build something on the waterfront and all that land that were basically got at Eden Park. On my grate to people shutting off for.

I'm not challenging you for your knowledge around this, Steve, But the thing is, this is what the council did. It was the whole idea. They sat there, they looked at four proposals, They went through the ins and the outs and ups and downs and structures. They pulled two out, they were left with two and then these head came together and went, you know what, our best option is this one and they chose it. I don't think they just went and had dinner at the box at Eden Park and made their mind.

I'm not challenging you for your knowledge around this, Steve, But the thing is, this is what the council did. It was the whole idea. They sat there, they looked at four proposals, They went through the ins and the outs and ups and downs and structures. They pulled two out, they were left with two and then these head came together and went, you know what, our best option is this one and they chose it. I don't think they just went and had dinner at the box at Eden Park and made their mind.

Up like that really part of lease resistance, so you reckon they would have that could have come into it.

Up like that really part of lease resistance, so you reckon they would have that could have come into it.

Well you could have done, and Steve would to go to our next caller. But it looks easier. And that's what I said to Shane. It's how fast can we get this thing up. We're impatient. It's been such a long time. Something needs to be done and there'll be people out there disagreed and said, look, rather do it properly than do it quickly. I'd rather they did it. Whether they do or not another question anyway. One hundred and eighty ten eighty lines are open, Ellison, good evening, Hi Darcy.

Well you could have done, and Steve would to go to our next caller. But it looks easier. And that's what I said to Shane. It's how fast can we get this thing up. We're impatient. It's been such a long time. Something needs to be done and there'll be people out there disagreed and said, look, rather do it properly than do it quickly. I'd rather they did it. Whether they do or not another question anyway. One hundred and eighty ten eighty lines are open, Ellison, good evening, Hi Darcy.

So I'm originally from Wales and we had this issue when the developed Cardiff Arms Park into what is now the Millennium Stadium or Principality Stadium where it's called now Carter Farms.

So I'm originally from Wales and we had this issue when the developed Cardiff Arms Park into what is now the Millennium Stadium or Principality Stadium where it's called now Carter Farms.

So much better by the way, but yes, carry on.

So much better by the way, but yes, carry on.

But you know, we went through all of the things are going through now and all the arguments against it. But I think it's that it's turned out pretty pretty well, pretty good, so I say go for it.

But you know, we went through all of the things are going through now and all the arguments against it. But I think it's that it's turned out pretty pretty well, pretty good, so I say go for it.

The council have come to decision believing that they think the best horse to backer is this one. So that's you're happy with that because Cardiff arms was kind of old and the Millennium is nice and chiny and new, so you think that they can do the same thing. They can convert Eden Park to something quite magnificent. Other people will say you've got to push it over and start again, but they were kind of for there.

The council have come to decision believing that they think the best horse to backer is this one. So that's you're happy with that because Cardiff arms was kind of old and the Millennium is nice and chiny and new, so you think that they can do the same thing. They can convert Eden Park to something quite magnificent. Other people will say you've got to push it over and start again, but they were kind of for there.

They left one side of Cardiff arms Park and then they redeveloped the other bit and they turned it. They turned it around ninety degrees I think it was, and so there is still part of the old arms Park still there. So they managed to do that and put roof on it and.

They left one side of Cardiff arms Park and then they redeveloped the other bit and they turned it. They turned it around ninety degrees I think it was, and so there is still part of the old arms Park still there. So they managed to do that and put roof on it and.

It's in the fantastic and so the history is there and I'm sure that the med Welsh sports fans absolutely embrace it. Is it Elison? Before that you go is it is?

It's in the fantastic and so the history is there and I'm sure that the med Welsh sports fans absolutely embrace it. Is it Elison? Before that you go is it is?

It?

It?

Utilizes it used for anything else besides rugby? Because sorry, but the way the world. You're going right now. You want to do more than just rugby there.

Utilizes it used for anything else besides rugby? Because sorry, but the way the world. You're going right now. You want to do more than just rugby there.

Sorry, they use it for They use it for football, they used it for big truck events, they use it for concerts and the real fun. It helps as well, but so yeah, it's a multi use facility.

Sorry, they use it for They use it for football, they used it for big truck events, they use it for concerts and the real fun. It helps as well, but so yeah, it's a multi use facility.

Allison, thanks very much for your input. Eight hundred eighteen ten eighty. If you want to play the game, it's cool talk about we're talking stadium here. This isn't be made even packing is goodbye waterfront waterfront stadium your thoughts, it's seven twenty eight lines, rap in eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Allison, thanks very much for your input. Eight hundred eighteen ten eighty. If you want to play the game, it's cool talk about we're talking stadium here. This isn't be made even packing is goodbye waterfront waterfront stadium your thoughts, it's seven twenty eight lines, rap in eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Goals in summer.

Goals in summer.

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B one and the council have spoken all roads lead to Eden Park and like train stations eventually too, which would be nice your calls eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Let's go to Conrad's thoughts now good evening.

B one and the council have spoken all roads lead to Eden Park and like train stations eventually too, which would be nice your calls eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Let's go to Conrad's thoughts now good evening.

Yeah, Hi Darcy, you're generally pretty happy for and now really happy. The first is retractable bottom tier. I was one who bring up talk back in late two thousand and five talking about Toronto Blue Jays Stadium up there and have it's easy enough to solve the grass size situation, had to deal with almost twenty years of a forty five meters boundary behind the bubble's arm. So that's great to hear in your interview. Okay. Then the second point is the ep EPR in I think it's called EPR B. It's just fantastic to hear yourself, and is putting the media spotlight on that after about twenty years of having to deal with the media refusing to put the spotlight on them.

Yeah, Hi Darcy, you're generally pretty happy for and now really happy. The first is retractable bottom tier. I was one who bring up talk back in late two thousand and five talking about Toronto Blue Jays Stadium up there and have it's easy enough to solve the grass size situation, had to deal with almost twenty years of a forty five meters boundary behind the bubble's arm. So that's great to hear in your interview. Okay. Then the second point is the ep EPR in I think it's called EPR B. It's just fantastic to hear yourself, and is putting the media spotlight on that after about twenty years of having to deal with the media refusing to put the spotlight on them.

You're talking about the park trust, the people have owned and run it.

You're talking about the park trust, the people have owned and run it.

No, No, I'm talking about the residents, right, So I.

No, No, I'm talking about the residents, right, So I.

Didn't know what you were Yeah, Well, apparently a lot of them actually really want it to happen. They want a vibrant place. But there's a few of them are very loud and making a lot of noise because people listen to you know, that's right politicians.

Didn't know what you were Yeah, Well, apparently a lot of them actually really want it to happen. They want a vibrant place. But there's a few of them are very loud and making a lot of noise because people listen to you know, that's right politicians.

So the key point I'm making is I'm a huge stand of the park and what's the rail at the morning side I think is named the station. Then the issue issues of public transport of Auckland within being blamed on Eaton Park. It's a reverse scenario.

So the key point I'm making is I'm a huge stand of the park and what's the rail at the morning side I think is named the station. Then the issue issues of public transport of Auckland within being blamed on Eaton Park. It's a reverse scenario.

Well, the morning sides there and then there's Kings and Station right outside Eden Park, so there's a couple. But it's going to funnel straight up on as I believe from from downtown come straight into the park. So deal with that. That's human traffic.

Well, the morning sides there and then there's Kings and Station right outside Eden Park, so there's a couple. But it's going to funnel straight up on as I believe from from downtown come straight into the park. So deal with that. That's human traffic.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So actually the main issue is they just have to kill the eat Park Residents Association and then yeah, we all three.

So actually the main issue is they just have to kill the eat Park Residents Association and then yeah, we all three.

I think murder's probably a bit much conray, but you know it's a full and final make you can't do that. They've got it.

I think murder's probably a bit much conray, but you know it's a full and final make you can't do that. They've got it.

It is.

It is.

Understandable that a small amount of residents don't like the idea. Hi, Michael, how.

Understandable that a small amount of residents don't like the idea. Hi, Michael, how.

Are you.

Are you.

See three or four points? I can't work out where the Oakland City Council involved. It's no council money's involved with the whole process. I mean the Oakland City Council will got a track record. Look at how dirty beaches, look at the road cones, look at the whole Auckland infrastructure. It's a busket a basket case. And and to have these same people make a decision about about our next fifty years for our sport entertainment. To me, the winner is going to be sky streaming because I refuse to go to eat Park. It's not a rugby ground, it's not a cricket ground. I'm watching the video screen.

See three or four points? I can't work out where the Oakland City Council involved. It's no council money's involved with the whole process. I mean the Oakland City Council will got a track record. Look at how dirty beaches, look at the road cones, look at the whole Auckland infrastructure. It's a busket a basket case. And and to have these same people make a decision about about our next fifty years for our sport entertainment. To me, the winner is going to be sky streaming because I refuse to go to eat Park. It's not a rugby ground, it's not a cricket ground. I'm watching the video screen.

You're kind of missing out on a lot of fun then, Michael, I think the reason that this is important for all.

You're kind of missing out on a lot of fun then, Michael, I think the reason that this is important for all.

You try to leave even Park and it's a dog's breakfast amongst Native and Michael.

You try to leave even Park and it's a dog's breakfast amongst Native and Michael.

I've mean to Eden Park for twenty five years. I've never had an issue getting out of there. I've got to wonder what your drivers. It's not hard. It's a crowd of people. You leave the building. If you want to park your car right outside, Yeah, you're going to have issues, don't.

I've mean to Eden Park for twenty five years. I've never had an issue getting out of there. I've got to wonder what your drivers. It's not hard. It's a crowd of people. You leave the building. If you want to park your car right outside, Yeah, you're going to have issues, don't.

I picked people up and drop them. And some of the concerts you can't get close to the two kilometers and trying to find people afterwards, people from out of town that don't know where the hell they're going. But number one, you know, Brisbane made the decision one hundred days a three point six billion dollar stadium. We're going to be left on the cloud by what's happening on Australia. We're a laughing stop laughing stock.

I picked people up and drop them. And some of the concerts you can't get close to the two kilometers and trying to find people afterwards, people from out of town that don't know where the hell they're going. But number one, you know, Brisbane made the decision one hundred days a three point six billion dollar stadium. We're going to be left on the cloud by what's happening on Australia. We're a laughing stop laughing stock.

We make We're not We're not. Thanks for your time. But we're not Brisbane, this is not Australia. This is Auckland. And when it comes to infrastructure around Eden Park, when it comes to ticking process off, Auckland Council are very involved in this. No, they're not paying for it, but if they don't support what's happened to Eden Park, no one's going to come on board. And that's what Shane Henderson was saying. It's going to attract support. People are interest because they know the council is behind them. Because the council weren't and caused trouble and didn't want to engage and didn't want to look at public transport and didn't want to look at how they restructure RU. On the outside, who's going to buy into it? Nobody, at least this way. At least this way, they know that they've got some power on their side, even though they can't pay for it. Look, I understand what you mean. A councilor made a mess of a whole lot of things. But that's counsels right, that's what they do. And you know where most of that blamers. You people out there don't vote in local body elections, right, If you don't vote you keep your mouth shut. Thank you. This is News Talks EB seven point thirty seven.

We make We're not We're not. Thanks for your time. But we're not Brisbane, this is not Australia. This is Auckland. And when it comes to infrastructure around Eden Park, when it comes to ticking process off, Auckland Council are very involved in this. No, they're not paying for it, but if they don't support what's happened to Eden Park, no one's going to come on board. And that's what Shane Henderson was saying. It's going to attract support. People are interest because they know the council is behind them. Because the council weren't and caused trouble and didn't want to engage and didn't want to look at public transport and didn't want to look at how they restructure RU. On the outside, who's going to buy into it? Nobody, at least this way. At least this way, they know that they've got some power on their side, even though they can't pay for it. Look, I understand what you mean. A councilor made a mess of a whole lot of things. But that's counsels right, that's what they do. And you know where most of that blamers. You people out there don't vote in local body elections, right, If you don't vote you keep your mouth shut. Thank you. This is News Talks EB seven point thirty seven.

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Is this Okham's razor in action? Ocham's raiser says the most straightforward solution with the fewest assumptions, like the simplest way, Ford is normally the best. It'd say that Eden Park is a lot simpler with a lot less variables than what would happen down with the water fair call on anyhow, you get out of your raisin stus. It's good to Andrew, mate, how are you good?

Is this Okham's razor in action? Ocham's raiser says the most straightforward solution with the fewest assumptions, like the simplest way, Ford is normally the best. It'd say that Eden Park is a lot simpler with a lot less variables than what would happen down with the water fair call on anyhow, you get out of your raisin stus. It's good to Andrew, mate, how are you good?

A good a you know?

A good a you know?

I like that Ockham's razor.

I like that Ockham's razor.

Why didn't they start building it ten years ago?

Why didn't they start building it ten years ago?

A dont like christ Church?

A dont like christ Church?

Every year you leave it off?

Every year you leave it off?

It costs the.

It costs the.

Text payers, oh not yeah, the cost text payers and probably you know, local textpayers money.

Text payers, oh not yeah, the cost text payers and probably you know, local textpayers money.

But we're aware of that. And then what you do though, if you get Richard speak of engine you look back or fifteen years I'll be saying the same thing. Then fifteen years but they did it?

But we're aware of that. And then what you do though, if you get Richard speak of engine you look back or fifteen years I'll be saying the same thing. Then fifteen years but they did it?

So why were you?

So why were you?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Well what what?

Well what what?

What?

What?

Why are we passing around with it?

Why are we passing around with it?

Well? No, I was going to pay for it.

Well? No, I was going to pay for it.

Just why are you pushing around with it?

Just why are you pushing around with it?

Well, they made a decision now, and they could have made it ten fifteen years ago. The fact of matter is they didn't. You can't sit around there to break your rear vision mirrors off because there were plenty of times Carlile Park would have been brilliant that didn't happen. Didn't happen, didn't happen. If you get you keep looking back at what you didn't do. You turn around, look at hid and.

Well, they made a decision now, and they could have made it ten fifteen years ago. The fact of matter is they didn't. You can't sit around there to break your rear vision mirrors off because there were plenty of times Carlile Park would have been brilliant that didn't happen. Didn't happen, didn't happen. If you get you keep looking back at what you didn't do. You turn around, look at hid and.

What can we achieve?

What can we achieve?

And people out there are fans of Keep Park will go, well, look at what we could achieve. I I'd love to see it. I don't see it happening. This is palpable, This is reasonable, This is pragmatic. You know what. I actually think we might have a world class multi use stadium that can have concerts with a roof and everything else before the Warriors win the NRL. I never thought i'd say that. Get a glen. How are you hi?

And people out there are fans of Keep Park will go, well, look at what we could achieve. I I'd love to see it. I don't see it happening. This is palpable, This is reasonable, This is pragmatic. You know what. I actually think we might have a world class multi use stadium that can have concerts with a roof and everything else before the Warriors win the NRL. I never thought i'd say that. Get a glen. How are you hi?

Hey Darcy? Here you going?

Hey Darcy? Here you going?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Good?

Good?

Look you think Aden Park is a great venue for that dum for the stadium. But the counselor, I think it was Shane Henderson with it Okay, So he mentioned the money and the benefits would go to the city, but he also mentioned that the taxpayers money had a lot of text money money to pay for it. Yeah. I don't vote in the city, but and like you said, I won't shut my mouth because they want text payers money and National Stadium was mentioned. So I think that those that don't vote in the city should also get a mentioned and not shut their mouths like what you said. And I think it's wrong.

Look you think Aden Park is a great venue for that dum for the stadium. But the counselor, I think it was Shane Henderson with it Okay, So he mentioned the money and the benefits would go to the city, but he also mentioned that the taxpayers money had a lot of text money money to pay for it. Yeah. I don't vote in the city, but and like you said, I won't shut my mouth because they want text payers money and National Stadium was mentioned. So I think that those that don't vote in the city should also get a mentioned and not shut their mouths like what you said. And I think it's wrong.

Well, yeah, I think that. With local body elections though, which is an intrinsic part of what's happening here. Too many people have got an opinion and attitude and a voice and they don't vote, and they really need to get on and exercise that because the council got a lot more control than we give them credit for and we ignore it the election absolutely, but you don't vote for you in your local body election.

Well, yeah, I think that. With local body elections though, which is an intrinsic part of what's happening here. Too many people have got an opinion and attitude and a voice and they don't vote, and they really need to get on and exercise that because the council got a lot more control than we give them credit for and we ignore it the election absolutely, but you don't vote for you in your local body election.

So that city wants that My taxpayers money is to go to pay to.

So that city wants that My taxpayers money is to go to pay to.

Only a small amount of it. They want some, but it's not all. I mean, taxpace money is for all of New Zealand. It's not just focused on one.

Only a small amount of it. They want some, but it's not all. I mean, taxpace money is for all of New Zealand. It's not just focused on one.

Million, hundred and ten billion, billion or million or something.

Million, hundred and ten billion, billion or million or something.

Want one hundred and ten million. It's quite different to one hundred and ten billion.

Want one hundred and ten million. It's quite different to one hundred and ten billion.

Oh there is. But I think that people is for the National Stadium.

Oh there is. But I think that people is for the National Stadium.

And it's it's a name, then it's a name that's been coined. The National Stadium. Nick Sortman came up with that doesn't matter what it's called. It's going to be a great, big stadium with big events in it that is going to service the biggest city in the country. Anyway, it's seven forty four. I leave you with this. We've got coming up next. The World Crickets Association chair talking about changes proposed changes to international cricket the windows. I contacted Jim Doyle, who's part of the Tetong feasibility study, and he responded with this, we appreciate the Council's assessment of the feasibility studies and their agreement that Tetong is technically an environmentally feasible They also highlight the significant public benefits if delivered without public funding. Therefore, the Consortium will assess the feedback and respond accordingly. That's from Key Park. If you struggle with Doro Maari, thanks for that. Jim coming up next all about cricket. This is newstalksb to please put a bit to cricket. Now we're joined by Heath Mills World Cricket Association at chair well so that he's in a Cricket Players Association boss man talking about possible changes coming to international cricket and the windows to play international cricket. It joins us. Now, well, come on in, Heath. You've been working hard on this new report, haven't you good?

And it's it's a name, then it's a name that's been coined. The National Stadium. Nick Sortman came up with that doesn't matter what it's called. It's going to be a great, big stadium with big events in it that is going to service the biggest city in the country. Anyway, it's seven forty four. I leave you with this. We've got coming up next. The World Crickets Association chair talking about changes proposed changes to international cricket the windows. I contacted Jim Doyle, who's part of the Tetong feasibility study, and he responded with this, we appreciate the Council's assessment of the feasibility studies and their agreement that Tetong is technically an environmentally feasible They also highlight the significant public benefits if delivered without public funding. Therefore, the Consortium will assess the feedback and respond accordingly. That's from Key Park. If you struggle with Doro Maari, thanks for that. Jim coming up next all about cricket. This is newstalksb to please put a bit to cricket. Now we're joined by Heath Mills World Cricket Association at chair well so that he's in a Cricket Players Association boss man talking about possible changes coming to international cricket and the windows to play international cricket. It joins us. Now, well, come on in, Heath. You've been working hard on this new report, haven't you good?

Yeah, we have.

Yeah, we have.

Actually, it's we're really pleased to produce the report that we released last night. It's been about six seven months in the making. And look, I think you know our boards had a conversation about twelve months ago and as we often do, we went around in circles about various degrees of frustration with the structure of the global game of cricket, where we have franchise leagues and competitions clashing with bilateral international cricket. We've got bilateral international cricket declining and value unless people engaging in it because it doesn't have a lot of context and the meaning. We have outdated regulations and obviously the preennial problem we have in our sport with decisions are made by a global governing body that really isn't one. It's a members organization and people look after themselves and we've given various degrees of recons and thoughts and opinions on that over the years and we just decided, look, we actually are not aware of a report being completed that looked at reviewed cricket and from a scheduling the economics, regulation leadership point of view, and decided to commission one ourselves. And we're very fortunate we got Paul marsh to lead a working group who is used to lead the Australian Crickets Association as current CEO of the AFL Player Association, obviously part of the Marsh credit family, and in a whole of experts joined him, Tom Harris and former ECB CEO and obviously a significant broadcasting career in Central Gupta from it from Star Sports in India, along with a number of past players. It was a really good working group met with about close to seventy different stakeholders players, past players, administrators, current and past broadcasters and really the overwhelming response was cricket's got issues, the value of bio, actual crickets declining, the structure of the competitions at the International franchise level is confusing for fans, and cricket needs to actually take stock and come up with a better system and try and develop a program that people can follow, understand, is more efficient and potentially maximizes its opportunities, which it's not doing at the moment. So we're very pleased with the report that the working group come up with and I'm very delighted to put it out under public domain with its associated recommendations, and we hope it gets good discussion and debate.

Actually, it's we're really pleased to produce the report that we released last night. It's been about six seven months in the making. And look, I think you know our boards had a conversation about twelve months ago and as we often do, we went around in circles about various degrees of frustration with the structure of the global game of cricket, where we have franchise leagues and competitions clashing with bilateral international cricket. We've got bilateral international cricket declining and value unless people engaging in it because it doesn't have a lot of context and the meaning. We have outdated regulations and obviously the preennial problem we have in our sport with decisions are made by a global governing body that really isn't one. It's a members organization and people look after themselves and we've given various degrees of recons and thoughts and opinions on that over the years and we just decided, look, we actually are not aware of a report being completed that looked at reviewed cricket and from a scheduling the economics, regulation leadership point of view, and decided to commission one ourselves. And we're very fortunate we got Paul marsh to lead a working group who is used to lead the Australian Crickets Association as current CEO of the AFL Player Association, obviously part of the Marsh credit family, and in a whole of experts joined him, Tom Harris and former ECB CEO and obviously a significant broadcasting career in Central Gupta from it from Star Sports in India, along with a number of past players. It was a really good working group met with about close to seventy different stakeholders players, past players, administrators, current and past broadcasters and really the overwhelming response was cricket's got issues, the value of bio, actual crickets declining, the structure of the competitions at the International franchise level is confusing for fans, and cricket needs to actually take stock and come up with a better system and try and develop a program that people can follow, understand, is more efficient and potentially maximizes its opportunities, which it's not doing at the moment. So we're very pleased with the report that the working group come up with and I'm very delighted to put it out under public domain with its associated recommendations, and we hope it gets good discussion and debate.

Make a good point in the scheduling is chaotic, inconsistent and confusing. Therese are three words you don't want in any structure. The report itself, it's quite a convoluted, confusing name, protecting history, embracing change, a unified, coherent and global future. But it is what it is. The big question here heat World Crickets Association, how much strength have you got in your arm? You can say all you want, you can report all you want, but can you get any movement or the power brokers of World Cricket And I looked toward the BCCI.

Make a good point in the scheduling is chaotic, inconsistent and confusing. Therese are three words you don't want in any structure. The report itself, it's quite a convoluted, confusing name, protecting history, embracing change, a unified, coherent and global future. But it is what it is. The big question here heat World Crickets Association, how much strength have you got in your arm? You can say all you want, you can report all you want, but can you get any movement or the power brokers of World Cricket And I looked toward the BCCI.

Yeah, it's a it's a really good question and one we've been asked a lot. And of course We're only one stakeholder in the game of the players. The majority of the players' views. The reality is where we need to work together. We have invested in this report, pull at the time and in energy into it. We think it's got really solid recommendations. We don't believe it'll be a panacea, but we know that some stakeholder groups and with some of that you mentioned, will try and poke holes in it. They will try and discredit parts of it, and they will try and say some parts of it can't work in their environment. You know, the recommendations are at the higher level.

Yeah, it's a it's a really good question and one we've been asked a lot. And of course We're only one stakeholder in the game of the players. The majority of the players' views. The reality is where we need to work together. We have invested in this report, pull at the time and in energy into it. We think it's got really solid recommendations. We don't believe it'll be a panacea, but we know that some stakeholder groups and with some of that you mentioned, will try and poke holes in it. They will try and discredit parts of it, and they will try and say some parts of it can't work in their environment. You know, the recommendations are at the higher level.

The conceptual.

The conceptual.

There are ways to address any issue anyone might have. We know that the ICC and the boards aren't going to say this is fantastic, we're going to adopt it tomorrow. What we want from this is discussion. So we want media to engage in it. We want media to question and challenge in it. We put it in front of the ICC, It's been put in front of the Cricket Committee withere, the ICC last night and the Woman's Cricket Committee today. We've sent it to all the national governing bodies. We hope that they will look at it, they will read it, They will come back with views on it, and hopefully if we keep it in the public domain, enough enough discussion occurs and enough pressure goes on the governing bodies to do something about the problems because the problems aren't going away. Whether it's this report, it's recommendations, or a crisis inflection point in a few years time, something needs to be done. We know the value of bilateral international cricket is declining, we know the interest in that is not what it used to be. We know the interest and the value in the leagues is growing. So you're One of the key recommendations here for US is creating four windows for what we describe as core international cricket for twenty one day windows where international cricket can be prioritized, and we hope through doing that it's going to have more value because the best players will be available to plan it, which we just don't see happening at all at the moment aside from ICC events and major Test match series.

There are ways to address any issue anyone might have. We know that the ICC and the boards aren't going to say this is fantastic, we're going to adopt it tomorrow. What we want from this is discussion. So we want media to engage in it. We want media to question and challenge in it. We put it in front of the ICC, It's been put in front of the Cricket Committee withere, the ICC last night and the Woman's Cricket Committee today. We've sent it to all the national governing bodies. We hope that they will look at it, they will read it, They will come back with views on it, and hopefully if we keep it in the public domain, enough enough discussion occurs and enough pressure goes on the governing bodies to do something about the problems because the problems aren't going away. Whether it's this report, it's recommendations, or a crisis inflection point in a few years time, something needs to be done. We know the value of bilateral international cricket is declining, we know the interest in that is not what it used to be. We know the interest and the value in the leagues is growing. So you're One of the key recommendations here for US is creating four windows for what we describe as core international cricket for twenty one day windows where international cricket can be prioritized, and we hope through doing that it's going to have more value because the best players will be available to plan it, which we just don't see happening at all at the moment aside from ICC events and major Test match series.

I suppose if you look at that, when you establish yourself as an international player, you become a superstar then and then you can move on to the franchise legs. Without that the international cricket and the relevance of there's no one to pack for all of these franchise legs. There are no names. They need each other. It's a symbiotic relationship, isn't it.

I suppose if you look at that, when you establish yourself as an international player, you become a superstar then and then you can move on to the franchise legs. Without that the international cricket and the relevance of there's no one to pack for all of these franchise legs. There are no names. They need each other. It's a symbiotic relationship, isn't it.

Well, I'm not certain that that's going to be the future. What we know is that the leagues have been privatized. As you know, there are team owners now who own teams across multiple leagues. We know that they are now developing academies in the major cricket playing countries, and there are players who are getting picked up for the leagues who have played no international cricket or vertus of very little international cricket. And we have even in our own country players that have played not a lot of international cricket who are now, for all intents and purposes on the international franchise circuit.

Well, I'm not certain that that's going to be the future. What we know is that the leagues have been privatized. As you know, there are team owners now who own teams across multiple leagues. We know that they are now developing academies in the major cricket playing countries, and there are players who are getting picked up for the leagues who have played no international cricket or vertus of very little international cricket. And we have even in our own country players that have played not a lot of international cricket who are now, for all intents and purposes on the international franchise circuit.

So yes, whilst I would agree with you.

So yes, whilst I would agree with you.

Initially five ten years ago that was the case, there's no certainty that that's going to remain the case moving forward. So we strongly believe that we need to protect some aspects of international cricket and sure his players play because that's critically how a number of the balls derive most of their revenue. So you know, it's it's important that we protect it, but we also have got to provide opportunity for the leagues to grow. The leagues have been very good for cricket and you look at the explosion and cricket and the number of countries around the world in franchise cricket.

Initially five ten years ago that was the case, there's no certainty that that's going to remain the case moving forward. So we strongly believe that we need to protect some aspects of international cricket and sure his players play because that's critically how a number of the balls derive most of their revenue. So you know, it's it's important that we protect it, but we also have got to provide opportunity for the leagues to grow. The leagues have been very good for cricket and you look at the explosion and cricket and the number of countries around the world in franchise cricket.

So there's a lot of good in that.

So there's a lot of good in that.

But we just need to make sure that we've got clear windows and we've got clear competitions that people can follow and understand. And it's not about playing a bi electual international cricket ten months of the year sometimes with B or C level teams because the best players aren't here playing the game. That's that's not a the saint sustainable future. We'd rather the game was more proactive and did something about that.