20 December 2024: Liam Lawson gets the Red Bull seat for 2025

Published Dec 20, 2024, 4:55 AM

On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 20th December 2024, Liam Lawson has replaced Sergio Perez as Max Verstappen's teammate for the 2025 F1 season. He joined D'Arcy to discuss his journey to the top. 

Piny offers his thoughts on the excitement of the World Darts Championships. 

Plus, the lads are in the chamber to discuss how Auckland FC will bounce back from their draw last week. 

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And welcome into the final Sports Fix podcast for twenty twenty four. Hard to believe it is Friday, December twenty already, with another weekend approaching and Christmas just around the corner. I'm Jason Pye, I'm Darcy water Grave, and I have a whole in my heart and a whole of my life.

Now I won't be doing sports fex below and saying now, Jason, I really enjoyed the back. I can sip back, relax watch sport, not making notes.

No that I feel exactly the same way. I must say watching sport is God intended just on the couch without having to really remember or analyze it too much, which I know we're both looking forward to doing over the next month or so. Huge news broke about ten o'clock last night. You and I were messaging one another about Liam Awesome.

Massive, and I believe exactly what I said in the opinion piece yesterday on the podcast, the reasons why Red Bull would sign him up to be the number two behind Max best Steppen, and it was lovely to read the information and understand that the reason they signed him was pretty much all those reasons. Ild Me ended out. No, I haven't got an insideline. I just love Formula one point, he said, beating his own drum, blowing his own trumpet.

I don't mind it. I want to get you to play a bit more of a tune for me when we're in the chamber. I've got a few questions about this and what success might look like for Liam Lawson next year. I've got some thoughts on one of my favorite sporting events of the year, the darts, and and lots more besides. As sportsbooks come to an over twenty twenty.

Four and and Liam Lawson joins us shortly.

How good, How good? Let's get into it. In other news, Let's get underway, as always, with a look at the big sports stories around today. That big one, of course, Liam Lawson has been confirmed for his first full time drive and Formula one hand to the second Red Bull seat alongside Max for step for twenty twenty five.

Now I have an off season to think about it. I don't even know if I like that, though, because I just want to get into it. Yeah, I'm just excited. So yeah, I think it's positive. I have time to really, you know, let it sink and spend the time and do the prep, come back strong and ready.

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And Tom the Mottspur football boss and posta Cooglo, is standing by his all in attacking style following a thrilling four to three win over Manchester United in the quarterfinals of the League Cup.

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It's a big welcome into the Fix to the sports story of the year in my humble opinion, entering Formula One as a driver for Red Bull Racing number two to world champion Max Versus Steppen, Liam Lawson, welcome to the program. It's been said by Christian Horner that you have and elbows out ability. You gain respect through your ability to race, which I know was touch and go for a while with some of the Formula one community, but plainly it's worked really well for you. And this is something you've picked up right the way through your career through toyter Racing Series and the like. So he's happy, You're plainly happy with the aggression that you bring to Formula one. This is the way forward, I think.

Yeah. I mean it's not something that specifically have a mindset going into a race that I'm just going to be the most aggressive person in the in the in the race. I think everybody has their own sort of style of racing, style of driving, and you know, mine's what I've done since I was since I was a kid. You know, It's got me to this point. So I'm obviously not going to change it coming into Formula one. I'm basically going to race, have always race, and that doesn't mean that I know everything. I know that obviously there's a lot to be learned, and now I have an opportunity working with this team and working alongside Max, it's an opportunity to obviously learn even more and become a better driver. So but yeah, on sort of my style of racing, it's it's how it's always been.

You're well renowned for having an ability to be a conduit from the car through to your engineer. This is something that's also been pointed out. That's a lot of work to do that, and I think part of why you've got that job the continuation of that, the ability to transfer information through the sim through the new car to your engineer, and I presume to Max that would be not first and foremost, but right up there and what you need to achieve Liam.

It's yeah, it's the most important, most important part, and I think for me fortunately having I say fortunately at the time it was felt unfortunate, but now looking back, obviously having multiple years as a reserve driver and working in the simulator, working alongside the team. It's something that has completely prepared me for that side, especially the technical or the engineering side of Formula one, which you don't really experience in any other category coming up the ranks. So on that side it felt hard at the time, but now I'm super thankful going into a year like next year with the challenges that are our heads. All those things over the years are going to play a part in preparing me for a season like this.

Liam, your pathways through to this particular role that you started off was it Formula Forward way back in the day. You've gone through Formula three in Asia, euro Formula TRS, Formula three DTM, Formula two, super Formula tell us about out the pathways in New Zealand that have aided you through to get to this role, because to be a young guy from New Zealand with no money, this is a rarity to achieve what you've done. So the way New Zealand has helped you with the series and the pathways that work, does that something you like?

Yeah, for sure. I think there's opportunity in New Zealand that there's not necessarily in other countries. I think firstly, the age that we can step into a car is very young. I was in a former first car at twelve, so I was still racing a go kart and obviously I'm five years or four years away from being able to actually get my license to drive on the road. But I'm driving a race car on a track at twelve years old, So that's where I think it starts. The opportunity. I think motorsport in New Zealand as well, there's a big passion for it and obviously the tighter program having the Toyder Racing Series obviously is what Keck started my whole career and gave me the opportunity to work with Red Bulls. So for me, it was really working to get you know, we spent time working to get to that point and racing in different championships in New Zealand's got driving cars like form of the first Formal of Forward is what gave me. You know, Formal Forward is probably the best thing I ever did when I was young, just for the type of car. Like I would give any young driver who's coming out of go karts the same advice, and that would be to spend some time, even if you don't race it, just to drive a Formula Ford and spend hundreds of laps in one just because it teaches you so much about card control. And so New Zealand gave me all those opportunities. And then obviously the big one was doing the Toder Racing Series and getting the opportunity to effectively race on the world stage in New Zealand's But obviously because it's it's in the off season of everything in Europe, it gets a lot of attention and you have teams like Red Bull and other teams watching, watching the championship squads sticks six six.

Well, you know it's Christmas time when you hear this sound. Yes, today the darts are back the World Championship at Ali Pally in London, Alexandra Pallace of course by its official name, compulsory viewing at this time of the year. So much about the darts that I love. The atmosphere looks absolutely amazing, surely a bucket list trip for sports fans. The TV coverage simply superb, the dozens of cameras and the graphics keeping you right up to date from dart to dart, leg to leg, set to set. The commentators all former players themselves, with the ability to blend excitement with their unique insight, the referees and their lightning quick maths to add up the scores in milliseconds, the games themselves and the incredible accuracy with which these players can find tiny segments of the board consistently and spectacularly under pressure. But most of all, the players themselves and their per personalities larger than life characters like Michael van Gowin, Gowin Price, Peter Wright, and the next big thing in darts, teenager Luke Littler. He burst onto the scene last year, making it all the way to the final, and became the biggest name in sport, well not just this sport, but in a lot of sport. Anything to do with Luke Littler on social media was clicked on millions of times by darts fans desperate to know more about this teenage sensation. But it was another Luke, Luke Humphries, who claimed the crown and for a little while anyway, relegated Luke Littler. A little bit away from the spotlight, it is sporting theater at its finest and unmissible television over the festive period. If you need me, I'll be watching the.

Darts the Chamber is now in session on Sportsfex.

Into the chamber we go, and there's really only one story to talk about today, even though it's been talked about for quite some time. We had a discussion about it at length yesterday. He heard Darcy's opinion piece on it. This is Liam Lawson, of course, getting the full time drive with Red Bull in twenty twenty five. A couple of questions I've written down here that i'd like your opinion on Darcy or maybe an answer to this is quite a broad question. First of all, twenty twenty five, what does success look like for Liam Lawson in twenty twenty five?

Overall success for him would be for Red Bull to grasp back the driver's championship, the team's championship first and foremost. You'd think Verstappan he's looking for five on the bounce, which I don't believe he's ever been done before. But the fact that Sergio Peis was essentially ineffective right the way through the year started off well, got a new contract, fell apart, Red Bull lost the team's championship and that cost them twenty million dollars or there or thereabouts. So for me, success is yeah, play the tail gunner to Max first Stapen. That make sure that Red Bull get back to the top with the championship. For the team's that success all right.

Next question is around the dynamic between your absolute number one driver for Stappen and your new new number two driver in Liam Lawson. Will he feel like, I don't know, a poor cousin within the Red Bull team. Will there be a lot of resource throw in the way of the Stappen and not quite as much the way of Lawson.

It's all about for Stappan. He's the number one driver, he's the champion, he's been around for a decade, he wins championship, so you focus primarily on what he brings. And back in the old day, Piney, you're a number one driver and this is I'm talking back in the fifties. If your car broke, he'd jump out and they get their number two driver and eject him out of the car. The number one driver climbing the car and carry on racing. It's not like that anymore. But it is about for Stappen, and it's about, as I said, a tailgunner, a rear gunner him looking after that and the designs everything is fitted to for Stapan's racing style. Even though the setup will be different in Liam's car, the line share of the setup is about what Max wants, so he's very much second fiddle. Likely though Lim is a very similar driving style to Max Lock. He'll stay in his lane, He'll know exactly what he has to do. He'll play at number two driver and learn as much as he possibly can. But it's definitely the for staff in show.

All right, And in terms of then podium finishes. For Lim, he's still presumably allowed to try and get on the podium, is he doesn't have to follow team orders and just bow down to what the staffa needs in every race.

Well, in some teams they actually say, look, you're free to race, we'll let you go. Mclarendon that this year they were free to race, and some people thought that might actually cost them the team's championship. It didn't. And then you get toward the end of the season they've got someone who's really challenging for the title. Then the number two driver might be told just to back up let number one win or vice versa. So hopefully they let them race at the start of the season, and then when the crunch they start saying, well, Max has got a lead, he's been challenged by somebody else for the title. Your role now, Liam is to support Max Verstappen. I hope they get to race, and he is a pure racer, Liam Lawson, and I think Max's as well, so that would be fantastic to watch, as long as they don't stuff each other into the scenery.

Piny all right, and he's my final question for you. I look at red ball at the start of this season, and it was for Stappen and Perez and Sonoda and Ricardo. Three of those four are gone. Lawson's in there obviously, well Sonoda's still there, but it's not going to get the top the top drive. How ruthless and cutthroat is this? And how cautious do we need to be in our optimism about how long Liam Lawson will be in number that number two seat in the number one team.

It's in its hands, isn't it. They don't suffer fools, they don't suffer losses. There's an extraordinary amount of money involved in this sport. It's stupid. They want results, they want success. Look you look exactly at Sigio Perry's raced very well, it was the number two put the Red Bull team into a position and indeed they won the team's championship. He re signed a contract after I think four podiums in the first five races. I stand to be corrected on that one signed his new contract for two years, stopped with a success end of the season, see you later, and a lot of teams do that. This whole series, the whole formula is littered with guys who tried, weren't good enough and got exited stage left. So yeah, it's in his hands against the results. He stays. But if he doesn't look over his shoulder, because if anyone's brutal, it's Red Bull racing and we've seen that previously.

Great rap, that's great insight for us all. Thanks for answering my questions.

Now me now, now I'm going to give it back to you because it's all about they're building a beach at Mount Smart, which is fantastic, but they looking over your show. Is there any relief around the fact that finally there has been a draw and that that weight of the we win everything streak has gone or is it more of an irritant to these guys because they're they're finally playing a game where they haven't won every game. They had that draw last week. How annoying.

Yeah, great question, and I think they'll all tell you, you know, of course we want to win every game, but the realist in all of the knows that that ain't gonna happen. And look, while while the you know, the the unbeaten streak, though, the one hundred percent winning streak was there, it was something to aspire to. Was it a weight around their shoulders. I'm not sure that it was anymore though, anymore so than not having conceded for all those games and then they finally conceded one against Wellington phenis a couple of weeks ago. Look, I think what it does demonstrate, though, is that this is a proper team. This is a team that will be there or thereabouts at the end. They've almost you know, we're only seven or eight games in, but they've almost not guaranteed themselves a spot in the top six, but certainly taken some giant strides towards being in the playoffs.

Hold on, poney, that's what they're saying about the over in Australia. At the start of the season. They're a locking for finals and look what's happened to them. Sorry, carry on, that's right.

I don't think the owners though, were going to force players upon Steve Coriker the same way that Terry Copenan has had players forced upon him. And you know Steve Coricker, You've spoken to him a number of times. He's a very pragmatic guy, knows I think, knows the A League, which is important as a player and as a coach of Sydney FC. Look, they should be too good for Western United tomorrow afternoon. I think life will be a beach at Mount Smart. But how's the forecast, Arcy.

I'm not entirely sure. I really don't know. But at the moment, put it this way, I'm wearing an ear fight tunga and a singlet. I've been like that all day and I'm going to carry on regardless of the weather. My question to here, Pony, would it be acceptable for me to turn up in a pair of speedos? Now they've turned that place into a beach.

I don't think you and speedos is acceptable anywhere, beach or otherwise. So I think I can probably safely say that that what you're wearing at the moment is acceptable dressing down from that probably not so much.

Thank you for this alient advice, mister Pine.

All right, and that is us in the chamber for today and.

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Evy, and that is us for Sports Fix for twenty twenty four. Thank you so much for tuning in across the year, our maiden year as podcasters, Darcy and I look, we look forward to a bit of a break from Sports Fix, as I'm sure you will enjoy as well, and we'll be back sort of, I don't know, mid mid to late January dars with a fresh twenty twenty five look and feel.

That's the master plan. And if you've enjoyed this, please subscribe. And when we returned back into your inbox Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday Friday, sports Talk will be back in full action as well in mid January, that's Monday through to Friday seven to eight pm of myself or Jason Pine and of course Piney with Weekend Sport. Although Piney, I don't know, are you getting any break from in Sport or not?

No, not from Weekend Sport. I thought we'd carry that on just as I mean, just in some semblance of consistency through the summer period. But there's plenty of sport on, so yeah, we'll look forward to bringing you weekend sport mid data three dars. It's been an absolute pleasure podcasting with you through twenty twenty four. Look forward to catching up in twenty five.

More fun than I actually expected. Jason Pine, as one of our former colleagues, used to say, A privilege and.

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