There are many people who would describe themselves as resisting fascism. 

But, for a small group, “antifa” is more than just a label. 

In his new book, journalist Christopher Mathias reports that for self-identified members of antifa, the bulk of their work actually involves infiltrating right-wing extremist groups.

Often, this takes the form of intelligence gathering online. In some cases it means disguising themselves for in-person operations: becoming members, showing up, getting peoples’ real names and plans. 

One man did just that in the Seattle area. Mathias tells his story in a new book. 

Guest

Christopher Mathias, journalist covering antifa and the far right, author, "To Catch A Fascist: The Fight to Expose the Radical Right"

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There are many people who would describe themselves as resisting fascism.&nbsp;
But, for a small group, &ldquo;antifa&rdquo; is more than just a label.&nbsp;
In his new book, journalist Christopher Mathias reports that for self-identified members of antifa, the bulk of their work actually involves infiltrating right-wing extremist groups.
Often, this takes the form of intelligence gathering online. In some cases it means disguising themselves for in-person operations: becoming members, showing up, getting peoples&rsquo; real names and plans.&nbsp; One man did just that in the Seattle area. Mathias tells his story in a new book.&nbsp;
Guest
Christopher Mathias, journalist covering antifa and the far right, author, "To Catch A Fascist: The Fight to Expose the Radical Right" Related Link
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<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/30/antifa-unmasking-ice">Antifa used to unmask neo-Nazis, now it&rsquo;s exposing ICE: &lsquo;Predators don&rsquo;t get anonymity&rsquo;</a> - The Guardian

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